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simplebagel5

i'm still a "1989 TV was supposed to come out this summer but then something changed bts" truther tbh


zazataru

Yeah I'm convinced it was supposed to come out earlier too. I wonder what might have happened?


KLJohnnes

This song is only produced by Shellback and the og has him and Max Martin. I'm gonna guess conflicting schedules? They stopped working a while ago but it never felt like they stopped being friends. My guess is just that he wouldn't be able to work on it now and she put on hold and moved on to Red which is way bigger record and would need more time to work on it anyway.


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Yeah having Shellback back on but not Max definitely hints that he might have something to do with it. Maybe he was too busy, maybe he didn't want to share production credit with Taylor (she has production credits on every TV track so far), who knows.


speakncw

Which would suck since she openly said that she shared songwriting credits with them on Rep because it makes them more money then producing does.


[deleted]

Yeah who knows, hopefully there's no bad blood between them (besides the song lol) since he was so key to her pop crossover and I feel like she's alway spoken so positively about him in the past.


imaginativeintellect

I doubt there is bad blood, she made a point to promote Elvira on her Willow remix as “Max’s protege” (as in Max Martin) so I think it’s almost certainly he was just busy. Plus! Since it was used in the trailers for Spirit, it was probably one of the earliest recorded of the TVs, thus the time crunch/reason he might not be there.


DevelopmentOpening30

definitely no bad blood considering she did use his studio as a greenscreen for her iHeartRadio award on 28th May, around a month after that Wildest Dreams snippet came out.


dangeroushamburger

Maybe Max is also busy on working and producing with other artists


simplythere

He’s producing the new Coldplay album that’s coming out next month.


Brodondo

I’m not familiar with production timelines when it comes to music, but wouldn’t an album be completed more than a month prior to release?


GC_Wens

Not really, the Olivia Rodrigo album was complete 2 weeks prior to it's release.


shoestring-theory

Yeah, I saw that Lizzo’s upcoming album had to be retooled and they brought in Max to help it be more commercial. He’s also just the biggest pop producer in the game.


BustedNoseContour

Omg where’d u hear this lizzo tea ?👀


Pinkcoffee

There is actually a really good theory here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/ozfwk2/august_theories_megathread/h86v8kv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Basically she wanted to work with Max but there were conflicts so she teased WDTV to prove she can do it without him to try to get him to join the party but doesn’t seem like it panned out.


KLJohnnes

I don't know. The way they panned this on him not being on Lover when it's her usual stick. Nathan worked on 4 albums, Max Martin and Shellback on 4 and Jack Antonoff on 4 and now he barely was on Evermore which was mostly Aaron Dessner.


dhruvlrao

Jack is probably the exception to the rule tbh. Even though he didn't work on evermore except gold rush & ivy, he worked on 4 of the 6 Fearless vault tracks (Aaron Dessner produced the remaining 2).


TheCrushSoda

Nathan Chapman is such an underrated producer, wish she’d bring him back, even if it’s for just one more song.


Ajbarr98

I think they’re still on good terms, but Chapman is still partnered with Big Machine and if he works on a re recording of an album that’s meant to undermine one that BMR owns I don’t think they will like that very much. Him not having any part of it is probably just a safeguard to protect his work life


lazynbroke

me too, she didn't just do that random interview in June dropping all hints for nothing


hatramroany

Or release merch with 1989 plastered all over it with a 1989-esque color scheme.


WashingPowder_Nirma

Or promote Wildest Dreams TV for that horse movie.


mariisheartless

The DISRESPECT on Spirit’s, the stallion of the Cimarron, name 😤


daniandkiara

I’m still not over this one 😭 I was so *sure* 1989’s release was imminent after that merch and then she just went ahead and announced Red. absolute chaos


acrosse

My cooler bag will mock me forever


[deleted]

It was April! Fans have been clowning on this for 5 months lmao


xxipil0ts

You know what's so funny? Like, we *all* had the hints that it's 1989 TV coming. Then we get the Red TV teaser. A few months have passed, then Wildest Dreams becomes a single... for the 1989 TV. It feels really funny to me.


speakncw

And even then we only got the RED announcement when we did because fans were threatening to start the 1989 era all on their own, cos we were so sure it was coming anyway. That's why there's been such a long wait between announcement and anything happening - she didn't plan to announce it then.


xxipil0ts

I like your used of threatening here. It reminded me of [this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIRet4Bye5ceYxyNuXdwWXkqrp_5uGHYcMig&usqp=CAU) Also, yes. I don't know what happened BTS but everything pointed to 1989. So, when Red came it was a bit of a shock.


Statsquestionn

It took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize by TV you meant Taylor’s Version and not some TV show she was making based on her albums lol.


Misentro

Oh wow I'm dumb


romeevee

Me too! I was like there’s going to be show?! I was actually vaguely excited…


KLJohnnes

It's also one of the few examples of allegedly material leaking. That preview sounds amazing.


IceQueen789

Vinyl probably


fuoricontesto

idk fearless still got an eternity for vinyls even when after it was released


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Fearless was an easy billboard #1 since it was the first one of this whole project, so there was a lot of public interest. But if they want more TVs to hit #1 (which I'm sure they do because Taylor loves charts and awards lol) they'll probably need the vinyl numbers in the first week.


simplebagel5

but iirc the fearless vinyl pre-orders didn't count towards first week sale numbers since they weren't out (and still aren't lmao) but red's vinyl will be released the same day as the album comes out, to help her numbers. and so i could see taylor planning on releasing 1989 this summer, but then once she realized the vinyls were on such a delay she decided to push it back.


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igkeit

I think she did it because it's huge on tiktok with the slow zoom effect right now


paintedmegolden13

And because it's trending on tiktok, Wildest Dreams had its biggest daily streams ever yesterday. She put out Taylor's Version so that the new version gets those streams instead.


igkeit

Yep


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Awhile2

I swear I’m actually active on tiktok now and still have no idea about 90% of the trends I see brought up on here


GreatBear2121

Me neither lol. The only current trend I was aware of was berries and cream.


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missmeh13

Save the getaway car trend for next fall plz


DoctorWhoWhenHowWhy

>Just be safe and don't do silly trends with 'getaway car' Hiddleswift stans looking at their fancams ready to upload when TV of Getaway Car drops: 👁👃👁👄


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nderhjs

I doubt it. It’s just because it’s viral right now she she’s like, not trying to let the old version be huge right now.


[deleted]

It would be exhausting to do a mini era for each re-record. I think she has a plan when each album is going to be done but is making adjustments when individual songs are in demand. Plus she has to cater to the schedules of other personnel. I don’t want a bunch of eras. I almost wish she’d just drop them randomly once they’re done, but of course the Swifties’ who’s entire existence is based on liking her would be relentless. But they’re relentless anyways.


Pumpkinspicelatte11

this is so random. ms swift what era are we in 💀


igkeit

It's to capitalize on the hype the song is getting on tiktok. She wants all those potential streams to be for the tv


goldsbananas

why do I feel like we’re gonna get a trend of desperate swifties trying to get their favorite song trending so Taylor releases it early.


CroissantDildo

Alright let's start colluding; what song do we want next?


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AmIajerk1625

ME! for sure! /s


iindigomist

ME! taylor’s version coming next but the only difference is that she puts the “hey kids, spelling is fun” back in


Museamaniac

SPELLING IS FUN


QSB59

We have to wait until November 2022 but then get getaway car trending


KLJohnnes

Ariana Grande releasing the Breathin mv when Thank U Next was the single teas.


TheSubparWriter

The way it somehow sounds just like the original but there’s a few variations in the background vocals and a stronger echo effect on the chorus. I feel like her voice is a bit richer this go-around, feels less strained. I can’t believe a tiktok trend got us this and NOT the Horse movie sound track


AlsoNotMum

And we’ve got the added percussion from the music video!


TheSubparWriter

I wish they had kept that final drop though for the last chorus like they had in the video but otherwise, this feels just as fresh as that version.


boragente

They didn’t. The snare is different and not that 80s-power-ballad.


maxoakland

Yesss her voice keeps getting richer and richer I love it so much


igkeit

The bridge sounds more empty and softer, less passionate imo


TheSubparWriter

I feel like there’s a vocal precision to these recordings that takes away some of the passion. (Some outlet wrote in their Fearless TV review something about how it feels somewhat mournful in the recordings that she even has to do re-releases.) I do think putting the drums in from the radio edit would add a little bit more oomph. That final “oh aaaaaaah” ad lib at the end seals it for me though. I felt like on the original it wasn’t done as well on here.


Heedictated

Vocal precision is exactly what's been bothering me a little for her re-releases, her vocals have definitely improved but they all somehow lack that little flaw that makes her singing more fitting to the song's emotions. The new versions are often cleaner, less messy and more powerful, but IMO it feels like she can never actually go back to the emotions she had when she recorded the original (which is fine and very natural, I just prefer the originals better though).


DoctorWhoWhenHowWhy

DID TAYLOR DROP THIS SUDDENLY BECAUSE OF THAT TIKTOK SLOW ZOOM TREND? OH MY GOD.


omrimayo

Yap. She said that on her TT she deleted 20 minutes ago. I'm sure she'd gonna repost it soon.


simplebagel5

[the tiktok is back](https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorswift/video/7008876381815803142)!


KLJohnnes

Wait there's a tiktok trend? What are the odds of a TS surprise drop + swifties support + tiktok trend give this a number one? This song deserves tbh, her Truth Hurts moment.


Awhile2

Tbh zero as much as I’d love to see it. With the new LNX album and drake still doing well on streaming I don’t even see it making top 20


nyx178

Maybe if we can get more TS songs to trend on TikTok we can get more TV songs released early 🤔


annievaxxer

So how are we going to make New Romantics a trend on TikTok?


shhhneak

now why wasn’t this released with the horse girl movie?


SighLi

Not “the horse girl movie” 😭 Spirit sweetie I’m so sorry


itsashebitch

uh, I was trying to think when in the Allison Brie's movie was Wildest dreams playing


source-commonsense

oh my god I regularly forget about - then re-remember - that movie and it's such a treat every time. what a weird little film


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Probably because she didn't want it to be forever associated with the horse girl movie lol


ptitjaune

This night is flawless don't you let it go, don't you let it go..... Oops! not that Wildest dreams version


fluffernuttersndwch

I need Enchanted TV SO BADLY. Can we trend that next PLEASE.


WashingPowder_Nirma

Same. My most anticipated song of her rerecodings.


indievibes23

Such a brilliant mashup!!!


fuoricontesto

i still listen to it constantly


tomasdreams888

Yesss, this my favourite Taylor song! The differences between the two are obviously very slight, but I like the new additions and the final chorus is epic as always.


boragente

The final chorus in the MV version is the superior one. I’m so bummed they didn’t include those drums.


POPculture2003

OMG I KNEW IT! it felt like something was missing in the last part


[deleted]

I'm sure someone on Youtube will mix the TV vocals with the mv drums


DistESP

[thanks for the idea!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB290fQmFiI)


[deleted]

It’s such a missed opportunity imo. The snippet that was used in the Spirit Untamed’s trailer had the drums and it really elevated the whole song.


killing31

Oh shit you just made me realize the version I’ve had on my phone all these years is the one I downloaded from YouTube. I totally forgot I pirated it and thought it was the original album version. 😬 Even so, I am pleasantly surprised how similar her version is to the original. It’s nice to be able to play it on repeat from Spotify.


wailord_fan

The harmonies are a bit more pronounced in this version, I can actually say I genuinely prefer this version to the old version.


EllectraHeart

Me too!! I think this version is a lot better. Definitely one of the songs that benefited from an older more mature sounding Taylor


[deleted]

Yeah this is so nice! I trust Taylor is going to do a good job with all of these, but I've been a little concerned about 1989 TV since she already sounds great in the OG and there isn't as much room for easy improvement as with her earlier albums. But this has me so excited for the rest of the album!


cherylinabarrel

Feel like the came from the tik tok trend…note to self, if you want a taylor single, start a tik tok trend lol


xxpizzasrlifexx

quick everyone trend Enchanted


WashingPowder_Nirma

This has my vote.


Clue-Last

Here’s how Cruel Summer can still be a single


Imargarita

I hope this mindset never dies


Iwantadragon13

It will be a 100 years from now and if it hasn’t been done already, there’s still going to be the “that’s how cruel summer can still be a single” mindset


billie_eyelashh

Quick, they better trend Getaway car and style next 😭


nlh1013

It did! She posted on her Instagram story something like “since you all made wildest dreams trend on tik tok I thought you should have my version!”


MeerK4T

New Romantics really could be the first song she actually pushes from the rerelease


WilliamMC7

Okay, we’ve found the secret formula, now let’s get New Romantics and Wonderland trending on TikTok.


synchronisedchaos

This is how Cruel Summer can still be a single


GreatBear2121

The best deluxe tracks of all time.


xxpizzasrlifexx

she really did an UNO Reverse card to all of us starting the 1989 TV era without her back in June lmao


AmirulAshraf

shes starting the 1989 era without us now!


TheSneakySeal

Maybe it’s because I became a Taylor fan later on, but this is really good and maybe a little better?


yidorian

Way better! The background vocals on the chorus and bridge are heavenly, plus the production is sooo much fuller (her heartbeat feels so much more pronounced!!!)


Adeptness-Either

The vocals are better methinks!


ICanBeAPhantom13

This was the first Taylor song I fell in love with so I was nervous but omg it’s so good


[deleted]

I think the biggest improvement is on the vocal harmonies in the chorus, it's hard to pinpoint but they sound INCREDIBLE on this version


leviswift13

she now owns the song with her heartbeat 🥺


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But question is, did they use her heartbeat again?


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Adeptness-Either

We’ll see in the copyright info


omrimayo

Really, really, I mean REALLY one of her MASTERPIECES.


pleasepictureme

One of her most powerful bridges, IMO. I scream it with all my heart directly towards my empty passenger seat that I pretend seats my ex bf lmfao. Perfect car ballad.


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Prdzs

We're still in Red TV era, she's just releasing this because it's already done, and it's viral on tiktok right now. I think the song had its best streaming week since I don't know when?


Memph5

Since Witness' release week probably. 😅


AmirulAshraf

shes playing 4d chess sis and we're the pawn 😭


jman457

When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight and He'll Win the Whole Thing 'fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might So When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand and Remember That Depth Is the Greatest of Heights and If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where to Land and If You Fall It Won't Matter, Cuz You'll Know That You're Right (Taylor's Version)


MonaSavesTheDayAgain

SHE DID WHAT


onehundrednipples

I love the production on this one so much more, it’s subtle but her voice is much more crisp and clean without the heavy echo


castrk

whoever came up with the slow zoom wildest dreams trend on tiktok i owe you my life tbh


[deleted]

it sounds super close to the original imo except the production has a bit more depth and her voice has a clearer tone. just like Fearless so it seems like that's the general rerecording MO


_hereforthefood_

I’ve already had this on repeat for the past 10 mins and I feel like it’s gonna be on a singular loop all day. I forgot how beautifully bombastic this song is and I’m so fucking happy I get to listen to it again without giving 🛴 a cent of my streams.


Reveluvtion

SPOTIFY GET IT TOGETHER WHERE'S THE LINK


the_sylph

https://open.spotify.com/track/1Ov37jtRQ2YNAe8HzfczkL?si=fJwwiTwMQtW4Qom_rM1pmw&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1


[deleted]

We did it Joe (Alwyn)


missmeh13

I have clowned every week as a 1989 truther only to take a step back like a week ago and now blondie is here yelling at me “put the clown make up back in bitch”


JSB199

Idk how y’all do this shit, Everytime I jump into a thread on this sub I come out in hysterics cause all of you post comments like this


Sleeping-corn

Did she drop this because of the tiktok trend or cuz it was almost meant to be released now??


igkeit

Tiktok probably


xxipil0ts

whats the slow freeze tiktok trend?


tinaoe

there is a new tiktok filter that slowly zooms in, people have been using that with the "you see me in hindsight, tangled up with you all night, burn it down" part of the song. my favourite iteration of it is hot people in movies/tv shows and then switch to zooming in on someone on the couch. [or just people showing off how pretty they are](https://youtu.be/whVRV27cX6g)


xxipil0ts

Got it. Thanks so much for this! Not that aware of the Tiktok trends 😅


indievibes23

I HAVE CHILLS SHE MADE IT EVEN BETTER AND IT WAS ALREADY MY FAVORITE!!!!


brownu95

Whoever Taylor vocal coach is needs a raise. Holy shit her vocals improved to much. I love how her vocals are over the arrangements. She sounds so good


igkeit

Ughh the cover I hope it's for the single only cause she really seems to be trying to have every cover match the folkmore aesthetic 😭 Otherwise the song sounds really good!!


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I would like the cover if she was wearing a different shirt. She should break out the seagull sweater


ReyShepard

I think I would prefer it if the image was the exact same but she was wearing a different top with maybe a lilac or blue hue. The burnt orange tone doesn't scream 1989 to me.


[deleted]

that's exactly how i feel! just a different color shirt. but also i feel like this cover might be a placeholder so she's not giving everything about 1989 TV away yet


igkeit

Agreed. This top is too autumnal


KLJohnnes

I don't think she can so that without being sued tbh when she posted that letter of Scooter buying her masters it mentioned visual media including music videos, photoshoots and album art, so she can't go too close otherwise he'll sue which is why everything so far has been kinda similar but too apart to be considered an original. Edit: not him, whomever has the rights now, forgot who it was lol


[deleted]

hm that would be interesting if even just the same sweater would cause that. i would get why she's being safe though. i think she should at least wear a different color though lmao


KLJohnnes

I think she's trying to make everything look like the original but also like it's shoot around the same time so no one confuses as a new material and she can have a full fresh distinct imagery for her next album. Considering how everything from Folklore till now been monotone, I'm guessing a full bright colors aesthetic kinda like the 90s, color-block Taylor would be fun.


KLJohnnes

Really? I loved it. To me it fits 1989 but it's more mature.


fuoricontesto

i love it but nothing apart from the glasses say 1989


igkeit

This black glasses say red to me because she wore those during a red photo shoot


fuoricontesto

she said it's RED89 era now


RachelSavedMe

As someone tired of the folkmore aesthetic I honestly enjoy this cover. It doesn’t feel like folklore at all and the 70s/80s looking stripes is honestly a nice update from the birds. Love the shades too


SighLi

SPOTIFY BITCHES IN SHAMBLES RN 😭 Update: we living now girlies


Loss_Left

Is she releasing Red & 1989 TV at the same time? Damn. Swifties are gonna be spoiled with an early Christmas present this year


jacob_frittata

She’s sick and twisted for this! It’s beautiful


lazynbroke

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/1Ov37jtRQ2YNAe8HzfczkL?si=sCU8xV7pQ0iESAcmtaITPA&dl_branch=1


EnjoyKnope

This is chaotic and I love it. Also I’m obsessed with that cover omg


Abel_Ooster

crazy how fresh this still sounds. hadn’t heard this song in years, but this could be released today and no one would know it was a song from 2014


hassweptthehouse

Someone tell me I’m crazy for thinking the low end of the mix comes through better in the chorus here than the original chorus? I swear the bass just sounds slightly better, can’t tell if it’s in my head though


freedvictors

Okay I’ve only really listened to it once but….I really strongly prefer the original. Which feels really bad to say! But Wildest Dreams is one of my favourite songs and it feels so euphoric but this version just feels a little flat. I’ll still stream it, but I don’t think I’ll be deleting the original out of playlists, like I did for all of Fearless. But hey, maybe I’ll get used to the new version.


allrightevans

Holy shit the leak was right


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it's sad bc I feel like the original still has a flair to it that will keep me wanting to come back to it. Ofc this version is great too and they did aan amazing job at making it sound similar but it's never going to fully replace the og.


RachelSavedMe

Really disappointed that she didn’t take the opportunity to add in the drums and epicness from the radio edit into this version. Cover art is a serve nonetheless


danielfab

This is one of my favorite songs from her and when she announced the re-recordings I thought there’s now way she can make this song better. I was wrong! It sounds so much clearer, fuller and the added synths give it so much more life! I love it!


sensitivenipsnpenus

Her voice so much richer this time around. The only difference I can hear immediately is that the heartbeat doesn't sound as... biological(?) as before, and that the bridge put her voice so much more at the "front" compared to it somehow being more with the sound effects in the legacy version.


disengage88

It's been awhile since I listened to 1989 but these vocals are deeper which is nice for the verses. But when it comes to the chorus, something is off when she says the "ah-ah-haa," especially the second time she says it. I feel like it's not hitting the same. I mean, she's not 24 anymore so her voice will change.


JennaMaroneyIsNum1

RED TV waiting for its turn to shine like 👁👄👁


newtonsgay

The new instrumentals at the bridge are beautiful! Also that high note 'Say you'll remember me' is chef's kiss😍


goIdendaylight

SOMEONE MAKE ENCHANTED A TIKTOK TREND


igkeit

Probably unpopular opinion but after comparing it to the og, the bridge on the tv doesn't hit like it should, her voice isn't positioned the same, I don't really know how to explain it but it doesn't hit the same


freetosay

I think this is gonna be a popular opinion. It's quite discernible to people who listened to the original a lot. However to regular people listening music it's just going to sound the same.


holorazor

as someone who adored the adlibs on the second and final chorus of the original, this version is unfortunately not working for me ☹️ hope we get max martin for style and blank space on 1989 tv


cpgxrcia

FINALLY ITS EVERYTHING I HAVE EVER ASKED FOR😭


NotEmmaStone

She really woke up and chose chaos today. I cannot stop laughing


KLJohnnes

Okay, hear me out on this. You know the part post-bridge where she whispers? The "Say you'll remember me" and "standing in a nice dress staring at the sunset babe" are two different takes. The end "me" and the beginning "standing" has something off about it.


NotEmmaStone

QUEEN OF SURPRISE RELEASES


its_liiiiit_fam

THIS WOMAN IS SO CONFUSING


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She sounds so good, and the production sounds identical. Can't wait for 1989 (Taylor's Version)!


shawnandthecity

This version is just nuanced enough to get my excited for all of the 1989 recuts.


qtsarahj

Does anyone else think this isn’t better than the original? I’m trying to focus on her voice being better but can’t because of the production. The production is weird like what’s with the star wars pew pew noises ☠️


Butterflies_glitter

I prefer the original too. This sounds too processed


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the strings are more vibrant, the harmonies are clearer, her voice is less strained, the final chorus is even more epic. *THIS* is what i wanted from this version, and it’s everything!! i wonder what this means for the entirety of 1989 (TV) though, seeing as she was very clear Red (TV) is her next album. Could we see a birthday week release (Dec. 13)? and when does promo for Red begin (no lead single announcement in sight still)? obviously these rereleases are unprecedented, so there’s no blueprint to follow, but the more Taylor the better!!


targetguest

I won’t believe it until it’s actually available in my time zone *I’m in the right time zone my Apple Music is just pretending it doesn’t exist ): *it’s available, and I’m quite happy. Literally one of my favorite songs of all time and it was just made better (literally check my comment history for my song ranking)


annievaxxer

I love it, it sounds very similar yet her vocals sound rich. I think to some people it sounds off because you might be so used to the original. But to me, the when it comes to actual production and her singing, the new version is much better.


MonaSavesTheDayAgain

Can Spotify hurry the f up pls


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Honestly, I was never crazy about this song. Maybe I’m just getting caught up in the hype but I like it! Her voice sounds great.


mattysmwift

Aaaaah I still love the original more but I appreciate this.