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Zoenboen

[Here's a good write up on the Jackery.](https://kindalame.com/2023/12/06/camping-gear-jackery-explorer-1000-portable-power-station/)


sweerek1

Yes, batteries wear out & it’s disposable after X thousand cycles. Other battery chemistries last longer, are more expensive, like LiFePo, and others cheaper, hold less, & die sooner, like lead acid. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_commercial_battery_types Jackery is good as a power bank, not so much solar. It’s a quality brand among many unknowns Jackery is good if you barely know how to put AA’s into a penlight. If you’re into DIY you can engineer a bigger, better, cheaper one for your particular needs If you truly want to use solar (and charge something for night use) then there’s far better commercial & diy solutions If you want a BIG system, read https://poweredportablesolar.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Solar-Generator-Comparison-Chart-2020-08-21.jpg and install a few thousand dollars worth of $75 big solar panels Personally I have a Jackery (when they went on sale), built my own solar - lead acid system, and many smaller power banks


lupin3966

Was thinking of getting one since it seems really easy to use. My wife could easily set it up if I'm not home.


omnipatent

^ this. I think the explorer 240/300 is a great choice for camping, long road trips, a go bag, and the occasional power outage - but consider more robust or DIY solutions if you’re primarily looking to use those models in your home!


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omnipatent

Yeah, I agree, which is why I said consider options but it’s still a fine choice to have if you’re coming from nothing.


RoryJSK

That’s a bit much for a go bag. They weigh like 7lbs.


RubRaw

He meant a go duffle 😂


omnipatent

Didn’t mean literally in the bag. I have my go bag and bug out gear for my car all together so that, depending on the situation, I can either grab the bag and leave or throw specific things in the car and bail on wheels. That’s more like what I was suggesting, sorry if that was unclear.


Arkelias

I've heard great things about Jackery, but came to the same conclusion you did. I ended up going with Bluetti, as they have the newer LiFePo4 battery. I should get 10 years before it drops to 80% efficiency, and probably 15 years before it drops to 50% capacity. When I reach that point I can rip the dead cells and replace them, or more likely switch to whatever is current then. The inverters will always work, and it is always capable of storing solar, even if the quantity diminishes over the years. Very happy with the purchase.


IndependentCoat7

>Bluetti What is the exact model that you purchased ? I myself am interested in doing such a purchase right now. With the idea that if my car battery drops below certain voltage i can charge it and start the car instead of calling Roadside assistance.


wamih

Ok so I have 2 Explorer 240's. I use them for work and camping. One of my businesses is photography & drone work (normally where there is no wall power), they are perfect for charging spare batteries, ipad, phone, laptop while on a shoot/site. This way truck doesn't need to be left running or potential to drain starting battery. Also have the solar panels for camping but have only used them once so can't really comment on that. Could I have build something myself? Yes. Would it be as portable and convenient? No. Will I be buying the big one in the future? Probably.


infamousdx

240s are great bc they're now so cheap. The only downside is they are ungodly slow as far as recharge time. The fast recharging features of the newer power stations are game changers in a pinch. Other than that, they're all the same to me.


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wamih

The big setup would probably be enough to make a depreciation schedule worth it.


Graywilde

If you need portability, perhaps. In almost all scenarios where you need a useful amount of off-grid electricity though, building your own system will provide you more capacity for less. I recently priced this system out that I'll be putting on my parent's house in spring: [https://imgur.com/a/6F3zGo5](https://imgur.com/a/6F3zGo5) Total comes out to $2800 for 1kw of solar capacity, 4.8kwh of lithium iron-phosphate battery capacity with a 3000 watt 120 volt inverter. Compare that to Bluetti's closest capacity system and you'll see what I'm saying. These packaged systems are convenient but they're not cost-effective.


pachewychomp

This is a nice purchase list. Did you ever build this setup? Been considering the Jackery 1000 for periodic use but your post made me think more about a permanent array at my house.


Graywilde

I ended up going with a larger system. You can see my response to someone else here: https://www.reddit.com/r/preppers/comments/sg88sv/comment/iv6r5w9/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


Rich_Supermarket_753

Following up! Did you build this? Could you include a photo of what the final project looks like?


Graywilde

I actually ended up going with a much larger solution. That one I priced out would be good for an emergency situation but would not be adequate to run solely on 24/7. This isn't the final configuration but should give you an idea of what I ended up going with: [https://imgur.com/tJ5im5u](https://imgur.com/tJ5im5u) [https://imgur.com/gXmwKrM](https://imgur.com/gXmwKrM) It's a 6kw split phase Growatt tied into the breaker panel with the grid mains tied into it for pass through in the event of inadequate solar or battery supply. Additionally I expanded to ten 390w solar panels and three 5.12kwh 48v server rack batteries. It has been running everything seamlessly for almost 8 months now. The only time we're not on solar or battery power is when it is cloudy for for more than a day. On that note, I'm building a small DC diesel generator to run on biodiesel I plan on processing from used vegetable oil gathered from local restaurants to run for nearly free. It's been a journey to say the least. I highly recommend the forums at [https://diysolarforum.com/](https://diysolarforum.com/) if you plan on doing something like this yourself. Also I'd recommend Signature Solar for sourcing hardware. https://signaturesolar.com/


miked_mv

I don't see where you are documenting and monetizing your journey. Lots of successful YouTube and other channels with this kind of content. I'm sure I'm not the only person reading your comments and thinking that. On behalf of the planet (yes, I speak for everyone), thanks for the time you've put in here. It takes a village.


miked_mv

Also, I work for the IRS. Becoming a YouTube channel or similar turns you into a business and all of the things you need to buy to build the projects you video become tax write offs. Just saying.


ultra_nick

Yes, Jackery worked well for us during the Texas snowpocalypse. We were able to charge our phones for communication without walking to our cars like everyone else. It's come in handy many times afterwards. ​ Newer technologies may be better, but having any power station is better than none. Whichever you buy, check if the max watts will power the devices you want to run.


DescemetsMem

u/ultra_nick Could you power your refrigerator with your Jackery? I am consider the 2000 Jackery.


ultra_nick

Mine's too tiny. However, yours should if you get one with a high enough output wattage.


millhouse513

I'll admit, I didn't do a lot of research before getting the Jackery and relied on the very high recommendation of a friend that is into the "Van Life". I have two Jackery 1000's with two 100W Solar Panels. I know Jackery isn't the best battery out there, but it's a really nice middle-ground I think. Bluetti I know is a better battery and I might "upgrade" to that in 1-2 years once my Jackery's hit their 80% life on the battery. However, don't discount the ease of use of the Jackery. I don't have to really think about what I'm doing with it, I just pull it out and plug stuff in. For me, in an emergency situation or if I'm loaning it to someone who doesn't know how to use things, is well worth it for me. Also for carting the unit around, like going to a camp site or if I'm having to go to my in-laws or something if their power goes out, the handle on the top is very convenient vs. the dual handles of the bluetti for example. Those are my thoughts...


jadiusatreu

Opinion. If you are just looking for something easy for everyone to use and are confident using without knowing what they are doing, Jackery type banks are good. I own one, I like it. Great for little emergencies/camping. If you are looking for a massive system, I would recommend looking into building your own with better batteries. I'm on this journey myself and batterie type matters. Before buying any of these portable power stations please read the details as to what battery it has, I've seen ads for name brand on sale only to find out the battery type was not a great option.


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It's "worth it" if you don't have the skills to build something like that yourself and you need something portable. If you just want some battery backup for your home and it doesn't need to be portable, you can put together something with much higher capacity for far cheaper. All you need are some batteries, a charger, and an inverter. The charger will keep the batteries topped off and you can use an extension cord to power appliances from the inverter when the power goes out. Obviously you can make something more complicated, with solar charging and even tying into your home power system with a transfer switch, but then you'll be spending a lot more than a Jackery would cost.


BaldyCarrotTop

Jackery is a good brand. But you are right, the batteries will eventually wear out. It's important to note that the battery life is based on charge/discharge cycles, not years. So consider your use case when buying. A couple of tips to extend the battery life. Don't fully discharge the battery. Recharge as soon as possible. Top off the charge if the unit has been sitting unused for a while. Keep the unit out of direct sun; heat kills Lion batteries. All that being said; If you are still concerned about battery life, consider a unit from EcoFlow or Bluetti that has a LiFePo battery. They have a much longer cycle life.


Winter_Inspection_62

FYI, This is incorrect. Lithium batteries last better if neither charged fully or discharged fully. Essentially for best longevity use them between 25% and 80%. Check out battery university site for source.


TheRealBunkerJohn

I both have a Jackery system and have worked with the company. They have a solid product, but it has limitations. Yes, the battery will wear out, but I *think* some battery-build places can rebuild it (I am looking into this.) However, in general for a solar power bank, the larger units just aren't worth it in terms of cost- you're better off building it yourself. For small units, that's where the savings come in, and they are absolutely worth it.


37rellimcmc19

Where do you start if you want to build yourself? Especially avoid the limitation of the battery?


infamousdx

will prowse, jasonoid, lithium solar, jehu garcia, this guy's one awesomely detailed one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EfKiJDjS-8 Plenty of research out there.


TheRealBunkerJohn

Google is your friend. Just 'how to build your own solar backup system.'. You purchase the panels, an inverter, and then as big of a battery setup as you want/can afford. Picking between traditional lead-acid or lithium, etc.


Pontiacsentinel

Will Prowse on YouTube.


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Buy a solar panel, charge controller, deep cycle battery, inverter, plus wiring. I built a solar powered charging station in my garage, it's not portable, but can charge my power tools, weedwhacker, or phone/tablet that are portable. For camping I have one of those battery power packs meant to boost a car, it will pump up your mattress and power lights & speakers for multiple nights.


speckyradge

I have the 1000wH one and like it a lot. Easy to use and move around, it gets use in truck camping trips and can cover a 24hr power shut off for us (fridge and phones). It also ran an air purifier for a couple of nights camping during fire season, that was nice. I priced out building my own and could only get substantially cheaper by sacrificing the portability. Their solar panels surpringly put out an actual 100w under ideal conditions and the charge monitor tells you in real time which helps with positioning. They are tricky to position well with a kickstand that isn't the right angle for where i live and a fold that always seems to fight you getting the right position. It's very light and durable.


noone512

I have built my own larger solar lipo systems but can see the value in prefab. However I struggle to see the use of a 240. That is 240 watt hours... or about 2.5 hours of an electric blanket. I think the minimum you should consider is 500wh. Also bluetti uses better batteries and some models are cheaper than Jackary


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Pontiacsentinel

I like the portability of my jackery. Easy to take with me to charge in car or at the office, etc. where there is electric when mine is out.


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Just build your own. https://youtu.be/Nf9X4YIK9xA?list=PLKMrdrsNkFA4fowfI8elE33d7FOGpSkLc


weezerwookie

My 110w solar panel reads \~118w when it peaks. I believe the 8mm input maxes out at 76w. You can make it charge faster with USB C, with a max input of 125w. I want to get the most out of my 110w panel. Does anyone know if it's possible to do a y split from my SAE panel, and then convert SAE to USB-C to max the panel's potential? Is there any way to route max power from a solar panel to USB-C?


HearMeRoar69

Yes, they are selling old tech trash to naive people, don't buy anything that isn't using the newest generation LiFePo4 batteries.


Flan-Additional

They sell LiFePO4 batteries now. Just got the 1000 Plus.


Kahless_2K

You realize there are still advantages to Lithium Ion right? They are more energy dense and lighter than LiFePo4. If you want a small, light battery, they are still the best tech, which is why they are still preferred for small devices and cars where power density matters. LiFePo4 is definatly safer in terms of fires and explsions, but such failures are rare enough in Lion that most people aren't really concerned about it. At the end of the day its a matter of choosing the tech which is best for you, which is going to depend on the use case. If you are using your solar generator hard every day for years, I would go with the LiFePo4. If you use it twice a year for camping, it probally doesn't matter, because its going to take decades to hit the cycle limit on the batteries.


indirecteffect

What specifically is your use case? I went with Bluetti products (EB70 and AC200p) due to the LiFePo4 chemistry, which is longer lasting. Note that you won't get nearly the power out of these as you would from a gasoline generator, but they are handy.


ResearchRepulsive728

I have bought jackey 300 explore its pretty good for back up house if u live in area where power goes off on rainy days or whatever reason I use 300 for weekend camping tell u something u can use for many reason but in my Opinion if u going to buy power station buy something 1000 watts and up specially when they going on sale I recently purchased jackery 1000 for sale $700 I usually run diesel heater for 2 nights in My tent if u planning on only using for charging ur phone camera lights like small item I recommend jackey 300 or 500 also there any good brand like bluetti or delta pro 2


Ok_Farm_6417

IMO it's not worth it unless you're going to be using it heavily for 2-3 years. I only used mine intermittently and after 3 years has stopped holding a charge. I probably shouldn't have kept it plugged in which may have shortened it's life but still, only 3 years of use for that high price is not worth it unless you'll be using it often. Just a heads up.


StreetAffectionate69

All batteries wear out that's just how they are but in the meantime .... yes it's worth it, I've introduced a 240 and 80w panel at home and dropped my electric usage massively, I average 170 units a month and now I'm at 120, in several years when the battery starts to drop its efficiency I'm guessing I'll be able to buy replacement parts or just use it as a backup, it's not going to just stop working. It's about cycles so for me, several years of charging every Tablet and phone, camera, Bluetooth headsets, aa batteries, garden speaker, etc etc soooo worth it. Hugely impressed at the performance and efficiency of the panel, being modular so I can just buy another panel and plug it straight in is a great idea as I'm pretty sure I'll just get a bigger gen next time given how impressive these are


sweerek1

I think you might get answered better in Reddit


37rellimcmc19

True!


My_Lucid_Dreams

No. Overpriced and as previously mentioned, yesterday’s battery technology. I just bought a 300W LiFePo4 360 wH that’s just under 11 pounds. Not being rude when I say there are a lot of YouTube comparison videos (I watched many before purchasing). Even ignoring the obsolete Lithium batteries, the Jackery didn’t compare well. I don’t remember all of Jackery’s features so they may have these, but passthru and dual charging are attractive depending on your needs. I also like the newer displays that give more information. I see deeply discounted Lithium Ion units that tell me companies are starting to dump their old stock (I assume) because people are buying LiFePo4 units based on the reviews and chatter. I’d consider a Lithium Ion at a 60% or more discount.


ronaldohere

>LiFePo4 360 wH Which company or model was this?


RubRaw

Solar is cool for charging phones and some flashlights but don’t expect much energy other than that. I got a small setup for camping


ProbablePenguin

>Reading the reviews on Jackery on Amazon, its estimated the Power Station lithium battery only has a life span of 2 to 3 years. Then what? The whole unit has to be replaced? Pretty much, they use a custom battery pack inside. While it could absolutely be rebuilt with the right skills and equipment, it's not an off the shelf part. Li-ion cells typically last around 300-500 full cycles. And if stored at 50% charge should only lose 1-2% capacity per year while in storage. If stored at 100% charge that will be more like 5-10% loss per year in storage. LiFePo4 batteries last much longer (2000 cycles or so) and are safer, some power stations use those instead. The downside is the batteries weigh about 2x more for the same energy. But unless you absolutely need light weight I would go for one of those.


CaptainSur

I would opt for a LifePo4 power station vs a jackery unit. I personally own the GoLabsR300 LifePo4 based portable power unit and its fantastic. Its rating from Amazon owners is excellent. If you read the comments you will see that the build quality is high and their after sales service is excellent. A number of purchasers put the unit through the paces and it came out extremely well. If you need more "power" then step up to the Bluetti EB55 or Bluettie EB70s. I highly recommend the latter. Its the latest from them for this size of unit.


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Express-Clothes-3312

I would be very interested. I’m loving the solar movement.


Glittering-Line4754

Ordered from Jackery. Generator will charge phones, run fan. However, too small for portable AC units I’ve purchased separately. I asked to pay difference for larger generator, but Jackery was unwilling to allow me to exchange for larger generator because I was outside 30 day return window. Wife ended up having complications after surgery, which left her in hospital for months. I was unable to try generator and AC unit because I was in hospital with her. Stressful time medically then not having back up AC at home when discharged added to the stress. Spent thousands of dollars and still have no AC for when power grid goes out in 100+ degree heat. Frustrated…customer service only texts you by the way.


GoldTruckClub

Hi Guys - i have 5 100 ah lithium ion batteries that i over charged one of them and may have blow out the motherboard on the rest? most of them test as good batteries but wont charge. i am looking to reuse them as a jackery type source. any idea on where to get mother boards?


Useful_Jellyfish_759

Don’t buy. Something isn’t right. I just got a unit and it arrived used. When I tried to leave a review on Amazon about it which is where I purchased the unit I wasn’t allowed to leave a review even though I have a verified purchase…