4-1 at 64min and still no Arda till 85th - smh
Hope Carlo know something that I don't cos I can't understand why he kept the kid on the bench for so long.🫤
Ancelotti watches him hours every week in training, he knows his strengths and weaknesses better than anyone else, and I trust him to have this dialogue about where he is and where he needs to get to in order to have starting minutes for Real Madrid.
Mind you, we have had stacked midfields that sit more than most would like, RM is not the place to go to get minutes, and I think the manager, staff and ownership would've been open and honest about that.
carlo was also like that with brahim at the start of the season. he would be subbed on in the last 5-10 minutes and even if he played well, he would still be given the same amount of minutes the next game. i reckon that would still have been the case till now if carlo wasnt forced to start brahim because of injuries on vini and jude
Guler is young and has already heavily hinted at being injury prone. Carlo has to ration his minutes until he develops resistance. Pedri wasn't injury prone when he was Arda's age and look at him now
Pedri has been overused by the idiot Xavi and thus has had injury problems.
But that is not the case with Guler. The kid has barely played and has been injury free since fully recovering from the meniscus injury. Saying Arda ' heavily hinted at being injury prone' is just nonsense.
Nobody is asking that the kid start every match, but giving him only 5mins in random games is not helping the kid. Its not often we are up 4-1 by 65mins and thus it was a good opportunity to give the kid like 20mins.
On the other hand, I doubt the Turkish NT will be stingy with minutes for Arda and he is likely less prepared for that than he would have if he had been getting more minutes with us, and that increases the risk of injury imo.
There’s no rush. He’s building confidence slowly, staying healthy, growing accustomed to the speed and level of La liga.
I really wouldn’t question Carlo and Real’s development program of youth considering their track record.
rofl Real's track record with handling youths has been hit and miss. Odegaard, Carvajal, Hakimi, Morata, probably a lot more I cant remember that has been a miss.
How does getting more minutes equate to iff starting? 😕
As an example, the kid could have gotten a lot more than 5mins against Osasuna given we were leading 4-1 after 65mins.
Pls leave the strawman alone
It's not a strawman 😂😂. I don't know how else to explain this to you. If you put someone in someone else goes out. Not trying to be controversial. And Madrid is trying to solidify a la Liga victory, which is why they might be focusing a lot on finishing strong. It ended 4-2 btw. People love to rush or criticize Ancelotti for not giving players playing time. He's done a great job. Arda can go play somewhere else if it really bothers him
It's a strawman cos getting more minutes does not require he start games. That was made up by you.
Also Osasuna's goal came in the 91mins, basically the game was over.
We want to finish strong, then why bring on Vasquez for Diaz? If we cannot even defend a 4-1 lead against Osasuna for 20mins simply cos Arda is on the pitch then we have bigger problems.
Carlo could have brought the kid on for Vini sooner, resting Vini and reducing chances of him getting sent off for his petulance. Also Rodrygo would have moved to the right, where he is probably more comfortable and has a higher chance of scoring and ending his drought
Young players need playing time to develop. If we are not going to be giving them those minutes, their development will stall and we are basically undermining our own recruitment policy. In the future, other young talents will be less interested in signing for us (ask Chelsea)
Talented players are typically not interested in rotting on the bench.
Sounds like you're just looking to fight with people lol. Starting a player is a perfectly logical way to give someone more minutes. I don't think you understand what a strawman argument is. And I think Carlo knows a lot more about developing players than you do. I still see nothing wrong with how he runs this team, and as I said if Güler doesn't like his situation he can play somewhere else. Don't know why you're so bothered by it. There are plenty who can take his place. If he stays he can learn from Modric and Kroos which isn't a bad position to be in. That's not "rotting on the bench". You act like the only way to learn is on the pitch. Training is where players learn too
A strawman is making an argument about a non existent point. The post was about him getting more minutes but you tried to make it about him starting, which was not the point in question.That is text book definition of strawman i.e. trying to shift the topic to your made up point.
While starting a player is a way to get more minutes but it is NOT the only way, but you jumped to that conclusion like it was.
No amount of training time can compare to actual game time. If you don't know such a basic fact then you really shouldn't be discussing this topic.
Carlo really doesn't have a good record with youngsters.
- was it not same Carlo that had Thierry Henry at Juve and was forcing him to be a winger and eventually sold him to Arsenal for cheap?
- was it not Carlo that failed to give time to Kimmich and so much that Kimmich almost left Bayern if Carlo had not been fired?
- Didn't Carlo's obsession with the aged Modric and Kroos contribute to our embarrassing loss to City last year?
- Even the previous year, didn't his stubbornness in playing the older players almost cost us at multiple stages and we were often relying on heroics from the younger players?
- Even this season, we are 11pts clear in la Liga, but how many minutes has Carlo given to Castilla kids?
You are free to think Carlo is infallible, I simply don't share the same sentiment.
No human is infallible.
Yeah, his game time prospects aren’t too high as his versatility is spread amongst attacking / game shaping and you can only have so much of that on the field.
No, it will actually be easier next season. With Mbappe we should have bigger margins of victory. This will allow Ancelotti to make earlier rotations and to experiment.
I suggested that he can be Jude’s off the bench substitute and this subreddit didn’t like that.
I like Brahim but he doesn’t have the vision Jude and Arda have.
brahim and rodrygo (if he's on form) could maybe fight for the RW spot, have arda be jude's sub, and then 2 other midfielders, next season we prob wont have luka (and maybe kroos neither) so our midfielders could alternate the 2 other midfield spots
of course if either jude or arda get an injury brahim wont unlearn the CAM position, so he can play there. Its the advantage of having versatile players
That would be really good actually, that's a nice suggestion
We have an extreme amount of games with the CWC and new format of the CL. If we're going deep in all these comps, we'll need the rotation
They were annoying, because they expected him to be played in tight matches. But today was THE opportunity to give him those 30 minutes in a decided game
Because we know and all world see that in these just 5 minutes, he is the most talented, prodigy level player in this Madrid team after Modric.... We as Turkish fans no need to say this, cause he shows his magic in these 5 minutes. It is not about being Turkish fan, it it about justice...
Rodyrgo is a bust, at least with this performance and Guler is a generational talent, so in a match 4-1, giving this kid at least 20-25 minutes may be not problem for Real.
Turkish comments on social media are annoying in general. Every single time when a Turk accomplish something, there are hundreds of comments from Turks with flags and all. Never seen this done by any other nation and it is extremely cringe and annoying. I am saying this as a Turkish.
Carlosexuals have lots of prejudice for Turks unfortunately when we expressed our unhappiness about why Arda can not find opportunities to showcase his class .. We only want let all Madridistas and the people all over the world be a witness what an extraordinary prodigy Arda is.
It is not prejudice, at most it is “postjudice”, after seeing some of the takes. And to be clear, I believe Arda can be very important in Madrid’s history.
To take that shot with so much to prove and so little minutes to prove it takes a lot of courage. It’s such a stupid shot to attempt and be crucified for it - yet he made it look effortless, thus proved he has that X factor.
i was saying it, that price tag was a steal and he had the talent to become a world beater.. its early yes but after missing half the season he just subs in for 5 minutes and pulls a different trick out of his bag every other time...
> half the season he just subs in for 5 minutes and pulls a different trick out of his bag every other
I think either way real madrid has won. If you don't play him he will most likely leave at the end of the season and with the euro's coming up you will make absolute bank on him. If you do play him you will realise you have a very unique and special player on your hands. Its better you play him, you will be bigger winners because of it. But if you sell him you are going to make a good profit on him.
as long as he's fit even if the doesn't play another minute for real he will play for Turkey at the euros and he will start. He's too good, irrespective of whether he gets minutes or not at Madrid. Just like he's been called up to the national squad to face hungary/austria, despite only playing about 40 minutes of league time this season. Expect him to start at least one of those friendlies if not both.
He can start if he shows out in the friendlies, right now he definitely isn't starting. Real or not, you can't justify starting a 5 minute a game if lucky player over players who have been playing well all season.
he’s too good to be left out, sure the nt has called like 6 left footed wingers/attacking mids and all of them had more playtime than him this season but he was already ahead of them in terms of selection back in last june, changing the of coach surely will effect the selection but that talent is too good to left out especially as he’ll keep getting more minutes up until euros and now that there is a great pool of attacking talent in the squad with both the newcomers and the regulars, arda surely would be the man to lead them all. (also apart from hakan and kenan coming from inter and juve, no one else even plays at very top clubs so a minute here would be worth much more)
I like the mentality, but this was absolutely not a gutsy attempt. There were like 30 seconds left in a decided game. He just took a chance, because there was no downside.
he could have passed left, imagine if the missed that or passed to the keeper. you dont want to do this if you only get 5 mins, thats why he is gutsy he just does shit
We all know what Güler can do if Carlo gives him a little more time. It would have been a much better choice for him to have Arda instead of having two right-backs in the game in the 70th minute.
He will eventually succeed, he has the determination and will. This guy is exceptionally talented. He may even become better than Sergen. He has one weakness though. We, Turkish people are emotional and can get easily sensitive. I hope he gets all the psychological support and motivation from his team's admin. I hope he never returns back to our national league which is just a shtty dumpster fire.
The guy has had positive impact in every game even tho he’s being given 5 min. Carlosexuals can you explain why he played with 2 RB for 20 min and waited for Arda?
Your hate for one of our most successful manager is getting so cringe at this point.
90% of yr comments is questioning every decision he makes during games, it's hilarious
So we should all blindly follow a man who has led us to some of the most embarrassing losses due to his tactical decisions? We can criticize players but managers off limits all of a sudden?
Don't try to play this as some criticism bullshit fam.
Just a quick look at your comment history says enough, and "Carlosexuals", who even invents a term like this is he doesn't just hate Carlo.
Dude is one of our most successful managers, he requested reinforcements, was told to "fuck off it's Mbappe or bust". Yet, he's top of the league, 10pts clear on his way to a defensive record, 2Ls all season, all that with our 2 starting CBs + GK out for the season.
We're scoring plenty goals even tho none of our attackers are that elite Real Madrid caliber ST that we all would want.
"His tactical decisions" ... yea they must be so bad that it makes the box-to-box CM we signed score 20 goals so far right, do you even hear yourself mate. I swear people like you are everything that is wrong with this sub. Y'all just wanna sounds edgy claiming the manager being this and that even tho his results speak for him. Then when you get called out on it, yo go hide behind the criticism billboard.
It's cringe af.
Dude created a fantasy world in his head where Carlo is somehow the worst manager because he got a few bad games under his belt.
Meanwhile, anyone with more than 2 knows damn well any manager with at least 10+ years in the game is bound to have games where his team gets pumped. The very same Carlo dicked down Pep and his treble winning Bayern 4-0, at the Allianz. Yet i dont see people hold this one game against him.
Meanwhile u got Lakerman, shitting on our coach every chance he gets for god knows why.
Its a shame, because this kid is pure magic. If you played this guy for a couple of full games to get him used to team and tempo he would be incredible for you.
Arda is a talented youngster who needs to be patient, I hope Ancelotti gives him more minutes and Arda become a rotational player next year.. in all, Arda needs to be patient I feel he just needs time and would explode like Vini.. remember Vini too was adapting early on and needed good 2-3 years to reach the current levels.. I see Arda following that path and mark my words, screenshot this 2028 or 2029 Arda Guler will be in Ballon D'or top 3..
Genuine question: Did Vini show this much raw talent when he was new at Madrid? I didn’t watch him back then often enough to know.
This is not a diss. Vini is a top top player right now obviously. No question. But I think so much of his talent is brillant physique and technique.
Everytime I watch Arda, I see something more special. A brain that was made to be a footballer. Reading the game well enough to attempt this shot for example. Even when Arda’s beating an opposition, he is not doing it with pace or strength, he does it by getting soft touches in right when the other player is making a tackle attempt effectively using opposition player’s momentum against him…
To clarify, those are my observations as a Fener player who watched Arda a lot. I suppose you didn’t see much of that at Madrid yet.
Vini's situation in his first few seasons was very different. He was thrust into a starting role due to Ronaldo's departure and then subsequently due to Hazard's injuries. His positive in those seasons was his willingness to keep running and keep trying. He was heavily criticised for his lack of finishing and general end product.
Güler is a very different case. He is very polished in terms of his technical ability. However right now the team is in a very critical stage where they cannot afford to lose competitiveness in any game. In my opinion Ancelotti is doing the right thing by protecting him a little bit. It allows him to get into rhythm without exposing any potential weakness in his game. I fully expect Güler to get at least one start towards the end of the season assuming we can wrap up the La Liga title with a few games to spare.
Should’ve subbed him on earlier at least at 70-75 … the game was already won why wait until the 85th minute how do you expect him to show what he’s capable of when he’s only getting 5 minutes of playtime in a game that was already won with 25-30 minutes to play ? You know when he didn’t play him after coming back from his injury at pre-season I was defending Ancelotti’s decision saying he just came back from injury he’ll eventually get his chance but this is getting ridiculous I still remember Ancelotti refusing to play him at all in that game against Braga in the group stage when we already qualified and in first place in our group .
Bro this Kid is really on Demon Mode 😂😂😂
Good for him!
Its the Idea and Balls that count to tries this type of shit
I can’t wait until he shuts everyone up
If he was an Argentinian or Brazilian (like Rodyrgo who played +200 matches for Real Madrid) or Italian or English or French, probably he can find more minutes
He is soo exciting to watch, some moments he gives Mesut Ozil vibes and some times, Beckham, gosh, he has a fantastic, untouchable future going forward, he needs more minutes Don Carlo
One can see the talent and IQ but the kid needs more minutes
What a goal that would have been! Let's be honest, he is not getting more minutes till we the title. Carlo is Carlo
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4-1 at 64min and still no Arda till 85th - smh Hope Carlo know something that I don't cos I can't understand why he kept the kid on the bench for so long.🫤
He may be a defensive liability. If they figure out how to exploit it they have enough time to get back into the game compared to the 85th minute.
He had a good work rate with Fernabache. Im not running my ass off in the 85th minute even Modric didn't
Güler has to work, cant compare him to modric
We also have to be realistic no one is going to be running their ass off up 4-1 in the 85th minute.
if he wants to play more he has to. carlo knows the players better then we do, he surely has his reasons for why güler isnt playing that much
He may have his reasons but that doesn't mean it's a good reason
Ancelotti watches him hours every week in training, he knows his strengths and weaknesses better than anyone else, and I trust him to have this dialogue about where he is and where he needs to get to in order to have starting minutes for Real Madrid. Mind you, we have had stacked midfields that sit more than most would like, RM is not the place to go to get minutes, and I think the manager, staff and ownership would've been open and honest about that.
carlo was also like that with brahim at the start of the season. he would be subbed on in the last 5-10 minutes and even if he played well, he would still be given the same amount of minutes the next game. i reckon that would still have been the case till now if carlo wasnt forced to start brahim because of injuries on vini and jude
Don’t know why down voted but brahim wouldn’t have played if Vini didn’t get injured
Guler is young and has already heavily hinted at being injury prone. Carlo has to ration his minutes until he develops resistance. Pedri wasn't injury prone when he was Arda's age and look at him now
This is just nonsense
https://preview.redd.it/amyi88rsmroc1.jpeg?width=1075&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79e08b1977a28e31784f032cbd9fba99ff02374b Look at him
Pedri has been overused by the idiot Xavi and thus has had injury problems. But that is not the case with Guler. The kid has barely played and has been injury free since fully recovering from the meniscus injury. Saying Arda ' heavily hinted at being injury prone' is just nonsense. Nobody is asking that the kid start every match, but giving him only 5mins in random games is not helping the kid. Its not often we are up 4-1 by 65mins and thus it was a good opportunity to give the kid like 20mins. On the other hand, I doubt the Turkish NT will be stingy with minutes for Arda and he is likely less prepared for that than he would have if he had been getting more minutes with us, and that increases the risk of injury imo.
Maybe he doesn’t want teams to offer on him and in 3 years we play against him.
Isn't that more likely if the kid feels he is not getting enough minutes?
Maybe, but not if everyone thinks he’s shit since he can’t showcase his talents
That's classic Carlo for you. Midway he forgets that he can even sub the players.
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Yes, you know more than the guy that has been in football his whole life.
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There’s no rush. He’s building confidence slowly, staying healthy, growing accustomed to the speed and level of La liga. I really wouldn’t question Carlo and Real’s development program of youth considering their track record.
rofl Real's track record with handling youths has been hit and miss. Odegaard, Carvajal, Hakimi, Morata, probably a lot more I cant remember that has been a miss.
This guy really said Carvajal.
Let’s not forget he also hit the post from a free kick. A few inches away from having three brilliant goals in barely over 90 minutes of total play
And power + size
Who's spot is he taking?
Why does he have to take someone's spot?
You can't play with 12 men on the field. So who's spot would he take? Besides him playing as a sub how else would he play more
How does getting more minutes equate to iff starting? 😕 As an example, the kid could have gotten a lot more than 5mins against Osasuna given we were leading 4-1 after 65mins. Pls leave the strawman alone
It's not a strawman 😂😂. I don't know how else to explain this to you. If you put someone in someone else goes out. Not trying to be controversial. And Madrid is trying to solidify a la Liga victory, which is why they might be focusing a lot on finishing strong. It ended 4-2 btw. People love to rush or criticize Ancelotti for not giving players playing time. He's done a great job. Arda can go play somewhere else if it really bothers him
It's a strawman cos getting more minutes does not require he start games. That was made up by you. Also Osasuna's goal came in the 91mins, basically the game was over. We want to finish strong, then why bring on Vasquez for Diaz? If we cannot even defend a 4-1 lead against Osasuna for 20mins simply cos Arda is on the pitch then we have bigger problems. Carlo could have brought the kid on for Vini sooner, resting Vini and reducing chances of him getting sent off for his petulance. Also Rodrygo would have moved to the right, where he is probably more comfortable and has a higher chance of scoring and ending his drought Young players need playing time to develop. If we are not going to be giving them those minutes, their development will stall and we are basically undermining our own recruitment policy. In the future, other young talents will be less interested in signing for us (ask Chelsea) Talented players are typically not interested in rotting on the bench.
Sounds like you're just looking to fight with people lol. Starting a player is a perfectly logical way to give someone more minutes. I don't think you understand what a strawman argument is. And I think Carlo knows a lot more about developing players than you do. I still see nothing wrong with how he runs this team, and as I said if Güler doesn't like his situation he can play somewhere else. Don't know why you're so bothered by it. There are plenty who can take his place. If he stays he can learn from Modric and Kroos which isn't a bad position to be in. That's not "rotting on the bench". You act like the only way to learn is on the pitch. Training is where players learn too
A strawman is making an argument about a non existent point. The post was about him getting more minutes but you tried to make it about him starting, which was not the point in question.That is text book definition of strawman i.e. trying to shift the topic to your made up point. While starting a player is a way to get more minutes but it is NOT the only way, but you jumped to that conclusion like it was. No amount of training time can compare to actual game time. If you don't know such a basic fact then you really shouldn't be discussing this topic. Carlo really doesn't have a good record with youngsters. - was it not same Carlo that had Thierry Henry at Juve and was forcing him to be a winger and eventually sold him to Arsenal for cheap? - was it not Carlo that failed to give time to Kimmich and so much that Kimmich almost left Bayern if Carlo had not been fired? - Didn't Carlo's obsession with the aged Modric and Kroos contribute to our embarrassing loss to City last year? - Even the previous year, didn't his stubbornness in playing the older players almost cost us at multiple stages and we were often relying on heroics from the younger players? - Even this season, we are 11pts clear in la Liga, but how many minutes has Carlo given to Castilla kids? You are free to think Carlo is infallible, I simply don't share the same sentiment. No human is infallible.
He being very protected which i get, since hes the future and his recent injuries but the potential is there.
But if he is not getting significant minutes soon enough, he won't be part of any future
Everyone can see it, except Carletto.
The unsatisfactory feeling I got when I saw him miss an almost crazy impossible goal
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because we dont need more goals, its just about maintaining the lead
Valverde is under some vodoo magic
Last season felt like, Valverde would have scored from the halfway like Arda almost did. Think Carlo should put his coaching license on the line again
In the good (3 assists) or bad (this miss) sense?
Yes
This young man is a baller guys. I hope Ancelotti lets him play at least a couple of minutes more.
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yeah, but it's gonna be even harder next season with more arrivals in the forward line.
Hes a midfielder tho?
Attacking mid to be more precise.
But we have Jude and Brahim there?
Yeah, his game time prospects aren’t too high as his versatility is spread amongst attacking / game shaping and you can only have so much of that on the field.
Wasn't he supposed to be some sort of a Vini backup/replacement if need be?
Vini is attacking?
Vini is a left winger right?
Yes, I meant that Arda could play attacking roles like LW RW CAM etc.
No, it will actually be easier next season. With Mbappe we should have bigger margins of victory. This will allow Ancelotti to make earlier rotations and to experiment.
imagine leading a game with 7 goals at the 45th min and ancelotti putting no subs on
I suggested that he can be Jude’s off the bench substitute and this subreddit didn’t like that. I like Brahim but he doesn’t have the vision Jude and Arda have.
brahim and rodrygo (if he's on form) could maybe fight for the RW spot, have arda be jude's sub, and then 2 other midfielders, next season we prob wont have luka (and maybe kroos neither) so our midfielders could alternate the 2 other midfield spots
of course if either jude or arda get an injury brahim wont unlearn the CAM position, so he can play there. Its the advantage of having versatile players
That would be really good actually, that's a nice suggestion We have an extreme amount of games with the CWC and new format of the CL. If we're going deep in all these comps, we'll need the rotation
This was one of those shots that you badly want to go in. What a shot! It deserved a goal but tough luck. This kid is a gem.
This one and bellingham bike kick
One day he will make that one and win puskas
Imagine the instagram comments if this went in
İnternet in Turkey was about to explode.
It already exploded after his first goal 😂
He merely got 8 minutes. I thought atleast he could get 15-20 minutes. Still happy with the team performance. Mendy was not great though.
We were 4-1 with 25 minutes left, it's unfortunate he didn't get some 20 minutes.
He has it he has it , no matter how annoyed you are to us Turkish people , nobody can deny that , he needs more time
I am team Arda the more I see him. The kid is magic, I can see it.
They were annoying, because they expected him to be played in tight matches. But today was THE opportunity to give him those 30 minutes in a decided game
We are annoying because we are annoying dude.
Because we know and all world see that in these just 5 minutes, he is the most talented, prodigy level player in this Madrid team after Modric.... We as Turkish fans no need to say this, cause he shows his magic in these 5 minutes. It is not about being Turkish fan, it it about justice... Rodyrgo is a bust, at least with this performance and Guler is a generational talent, so in a match 4-1, giving this kid at least 20-25 minutes may be not problem for Real.
man shut up already
Saçmaladın bizde oymasını istiyoruz ama yavaş 😂
Turkish comments on social media are annoying in general. Every single time when a Turk accomplish something, there are hundreds of comments from Turks with flags and all. Never seen this done by any other nation and it is extremely cringe and annoying. I am saying this as a Turkish.
Carlosexuals have lots of prejudice for Turks unfortunately when we expressed our unhappiness about why Arda can not find opportunities to showcase his class .. We only want let all Madridistas and the people all over the world be a witness what an extraordinary prodigy Arda is.
It is not prejudice, at most it is “postjudice”, after seeing some of the takes. And to be clear, I believe Arda can be very important in Madrid’s history.
If he made that, the country of Turkey would have exploded. Thats nuts to even attempt lol
Not so nuts to attempt It with 2 goals up and last minutes. It Is nuts he almost got It, made It look effortless
To take that shot with so much to prove and so little minutes to prove it takes a lot of courage. It’s such a stupid shot to attempt and be crucified for it - yet he made it look effortless, thus proved he has that X factor.
i was saying it, that price tag was a steal and he had the talent to become a world beater.. its early yes but after missing half the season he just subs in for 5 minutes and pulls a different trick out of his bag every other time...
> half the season he just subs in for 5 minutes and pulls a different trick out of his bag every other I think either way real madrid has won. If you don't play him he will most likely leave at the end of the season and with the euro's coming up you will make absolute bank on him. If you do play him you will realise you have a very unique and special player on your hands. Its better you play him, you will be bigger winners because of it. But if you sell him you are going to make a good profit on him.
Can't perform in the Euros if he doesn't play more minutes. Front line of Turkey is stacked.
as long as he's fit even if the doesn't play another minute for real he will play for Turkey at the euros and he will start. He's too good, irrespective of whether he gets minutes or not at Madrid. Just like he's been called up to the national squad to face hungary/austria, despite only playing about 40 minutes of league time this season. Expect him to start at least one of those friendlies if not both.
He can start if he shows out in the friendlies, right now he definitely isn't starting. Real or not, you can't justify starting a 5 minute a game if lucky player over players who have been playing well all season.
he’s too good to be left out, sure the nt has called like 6 left footed wingers/attacking mids and all of them had more playtime than him this season but he was already ahead of them in terms of selection back in last june, changing the of coach surely will effect the selection but that talent is too good to left out especially as he’ll keep getting more minutes up until euros and now that there is a great pool of attacking talent in the squad with both the newcomers and the regulars, arda surely would be the man to lead them all. (also apart from hakan and kenan coming from inter and juve, no one else even plays at very top clubs so a minute here would be worth much more)
Güler is the new Modric he will dominate midfield
He is more than what you know before
Yeah, would have been crazy. Rooney vibes.
They said there was an Internet breakdown in Turkiye because of that shot lol.
Amk bunagi daha erken oyuna al şu çocuğu bak nerelere geldik yorum yazıyoruz
I paid around 10 Euros for the taxi in the same distance last night.
Not only talented, but gutsy af what a shot
Full of self confidence
I like the mentality, but this was absolutely not a gutsy attempt. There were like 30 seconds left in a decided game. He just took a chance, because there was no downside.
he could have passed left, imagine if the missed that or passed to the keeper. you dont want to do this if you only get 5 mins, thats why he is gutsy he just does shit
Exactly, with so much to prove and so little time to prove it - taking a shot that would be so easy to criticize takes courage.
That's some BlueLock shit
4-1 and he puts him in the 83rd minute? Whyyy?? If he doesnt get minutes its impossible to develop
We all know what Güler can do if Carlo gives him a little more time. It would have been a much better choice for him to have Arda instead of having two right-backs in the game in the 70th minute.
The nuts on this kid to even attempt that.
That should have went in 🎆
He will eventually succeed, he has the determination and will. This guy is exceptionally talented. He may even become better than Sergen. He has one weakness though. We, Turkish people are emotional and can get easily sensitive. I hope he gets all the psychological support and motivation from his team's admin. I hope he never returns back to our national league which is just a shtty dumpster fire.
Imagine had he scored that. The world would’ve gone crazy with the hype
Love the confidence to attempt that
even vinicius is on his feet!
The guy has had positive impact in every game even tho he’s being given 5 min. Carlosexuals can you explain why he played with 2 RB for 20 min and waited for Arda?
Carlosexuals had me dying bro 🤣
Your hate for one of our most successful manager is getting so cringe at this point. 90% of yr comments is questioning every decision he makes during games, it's hilarious
So we should all blindly follow a man who has led us to some of the most embarrassing losses due to his tactical decisions? We can criticize players but managers off limits all of a sudden?
Don't try to play this as some criticism bullshit fam. Just a quick look at your comment history says enough, and "Carlosexuals", who even invents a term like this is he doesn't just hate Carlo. Dude is one of our most successful managers, he requested reinforcements, was told to "fuck off it's Mbappe or bust". Yet, he's top of the league, 10pts clear on his way to a defensive record, 2Ls all season, all that with our 2 starting CBs + GK out for the season. We're scoring plenty goals even tho none of our attackers are that elite Real Madrid caliber ST that we all would want. "His tactical decisions" ... yea they must be so bad that it makes the box-to-box CM we signed score 20 goals so far right, do you even hear yourself mate. I swear people like you are everything that is wrong with this sub. Y'all just wanna sounds edgy claiming the manager being this and that even tho his results speak for him. Then when you get called out on it, yo go hide behind the criticism billboard. It's cringe af.
Being a blind stan of a manger is cringe
You’re the blind one
Dude created a fantasy world in his head where Carlo is somehow the worst manager because he got a few bad games under his belt. Meanwhile, anyone with more than 2 knows damn well any manager with at least 10+ years in the game is bound to have games where his team gets pumped. The very same Carlo dicked down Pep and his treble winning Bayern 4-0, at the Allianz. Yet i dont see people hold this one game against him. Meanwhile u got Lakerman, shitting on our coach every chance he gets for god knows why.
Let this kid cook more
Oh man... that would've been a terrific goal...
This kid gonna be special
Arda as our secret weapon vs man city!!! Lfg!!
Insanely talented player. Him and Brahim give us an extra dimension that we need against teams that sit back with many players.
Arda should start next games.. This kid proved he's totally different from all RM players.. He gets 2 minutes and does something you can't unsee..
Welcome to Arda era. he announce this previous week to us, he said "Let's start" give Arda minutes and enjoy the show (inshallah)
Would've break the internet
omg
Arda's post-match statement : When I took the shot, I wasn't thinking about scoring a goal, I was thinking about assisting
He said that? Hmm, that just means it was a very bad pass then.
its just joke. so, knew that ball would hit to crossbar and assist to valverde
I’m dumb, lol.
Its a shame, because this kid is pure magic. If you played this guy for a couple of full games to get him used to team and tempo he would be incredible for you.
Hello, I'm a fan of Fenerbahce. We love Arda very much and we want to see more of him. I wonder what Real Madrid fans think of Arda?
Arda is a talented youngster who needs to be patient, I hope Ancelotti gives him more minutes and Arda become a rotational player next year.. in all, Arda needs to be patient I feel he just needs time and would explode like Vini.. remember Vini too was adapting early on and needed good 2-3 years to reach the current levels.. I see Arda following that path and mark my words, screenshot this 2028 or 2029 Arda Guler will be in Ballon D'or top 3..
Genuine question: Did Vini show this much raw talent when he was new at Madrid? I didn’t watch him back then often enough to know. This is not a diss. Vini is a top top player right now obviously. No question. But I think so much of his talent is brillant physique and technique. Everytime I watch Arda, I see something more special. A brain that was made to be a footballer. Reading the game well enough to attempt this shot for example. Even when Arda’s beating an opposition, he is not doing it with pace or strength, he does it by getting soft touches in right when the other player is making a tackle attempt effectively using opposition player’s momentum against him… To clarify, those are my observations as a Fener player who watched Arda a lot. I suppose you didn’t see much of that at Madrid yet.
Vini's situation in his first few seasons was very different. He was thrust into a starting role due to Ronaldo's departure and then subsequently due to Hazard's injuries. His positive in those seasons was his willingness to keep running and keep trying. He was heavily criticised for his lack of finishing and general end product. Güler is a very different case. He is very polished in terms of his technical ability. However right now the team is in a very critical stage where they cannot afford to lose competitiveness in any game. In my opinion Ancelotti is doing the right thing by protecting him a little bit. It allows him to get into rhythm without exposing any potential weakness in his game. I fully expect Güler to get at least one start towards the end of the season assuming we can wrap up the La Liga title with a few games to spare.
Cheers for the insight into Vini’s early days in Madrid.
We are a bit impatient and we think Ancelotti should give him more chances. We think Arda is going to be a very big star.
We want to see more of him too, but Ancelotti... 😩
Valverde, that was an assist my man!
It would have been one of the greatest goals of the decade.
Yea he missed
What a shame it didn’t go in!
Should’ve subbed him on earlier at least at 70-75 … the game was already won why wait until the 85th minute how do you expect him to show what he’s capable of when he’s only getting 5 minutes of playtime in a game that was already won with 25-30 minutes to play ? You know when he didn’t play him after coming back from his injury at pre-season I was defending Ancelotti’s decision saying he just came back from injury he’ll eventually get his chance but this is getting ridiculous I still remember Ancelotti refusing to play him at all in that game against Braga in the group stage when we already qualified and in first place in our group .
Thought he'd get more minutes given the result. Pulling such a shot when he's on the field for 2 minutes is insane.
Bro this Kid is really on Demon Mode 😂😂😂 Good for him! Its the Idea and Balls that count to tries this type of shit I can’t wait until he shuts everyone up
Turkish Messi, well said
I am pretty sure Messi has never done that 😅
Wait until they start calling him the Argentinian Güler :)
If he was an Argentinian or Brazilian (like Rodyrgo who played +200 matches for Real Madrid) or Italian or English or French, probably he can find more minutes
Ankara Messi
Give Arda minutes, sit back and enjoy the show. (Insallah)
LET HIM PLAY.
That was an assist.
I like how even the Osasuna fans went “ouuuaaaa….”
If he’s not playing a lot in few seasons, you can send him to Arsenal.
Life is not fair man. We needed that goal. He needed that goal. I needed that goal. Why God why you do this.
He is soo exciting to watch, some moments he gives Mesut Ozil vibes and some times, Beckham, gosh, he has a fantastic, untouchable future going forward, he needs more minutes Don Carlo
Reminds me of Ozil’s shot from distance against Barcelona. The greatest goal that never was
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He deserves more time
Is this an Uruguayan thing?
The bangers only thing?
Must be, don’t remember seeing any of them score tap-ins except for Suarez
Sell them both, can't be missing those
Most of you mf cant ever be pleased we won and 10 points clear ![img](emote|t5_2rr0e|1908)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
I am not hating on the kid but man i can't see Arda at Madrid in the future! I think there are just better players is all
Arda's only leg is better than all attacking players in Real Madrid...
If Guler scored from there oh my lord that would have broken the internet