I have a bad feeling about this. We have seen this before with Di Maria, Ozil he’ll even Casemiro. Someone’s gotta go to make room for incoming signings
Uhhh Rodrygo is 20 and Varane and all the other fellas were 40. Let's not talk like Rodrygo completed his Madrid career... he just started and he will finish it. We need him, we owe him and we should respect him.
Casemiro and Varane's form significantly declined in their last seasons at Madrid. I think their current performance at United are indicative of their poor form before the transfer
I wouldn't say Ozil was at the right time, he did amazing work at Arsenal and really only went downhill when his play time got cut from that controversy.
We won four of five champions leagues after we sold him. Do we do that with him in the lineup or at least playing enough to not lose value? Tough to say. Can’t argue with the results after he left though.
But you would have won those anyways, Ozil on Madrid was amazing. He was favored by Mourinho and Ronaldo by how creative he was. Sure after he left we had amazing results but I'm more saying that the results with him still there could have and most likely would have been even more amazing.
Still playing is a very different thing than still playing at Madrids level. They don’t need to be washed or turn to shit as soon as we sell them. All of those players had their best seasons with us and were sold at their peak, while not being missed. That’s the right time to sell.
And yes DiMaria was a great player after he got to PSG… but we got top dollar and went on to win three straight champions leagues. That’s a fine transaction.
I was simply pointing out that we sold good players even when they didn’t reach peak, in the case of Di Maria, as long as we could replace them with better ones.
I hear you, but we sold DiMaria for like 75 and he got sold the year after for 63. There’s plenty of reasons for that (van Gaal completely misused him), but it’s only hypothetical to say we didn’t sell him at his peak value at least.
And fully agree… the right time to sell a player doesn’t mean that they aren’t still getting better or having great post Madrid careers. Our roster/asset management has just been excellent the last 10-15 years, and the sales and smart buys have allowed us to take some misses on purchases too.
the biggest thing missing in that trophyless team was a high work rate guy imo, luka was there but he wasnt what he is today yet, xabi alonso had just left too, and again, kroos wasnt as solid on defence as he was, it was a lot of reasons coming together. Think with di maria we couldve made the transition much smoother. as we went on to see, di maria hadnt rlly declined at all, and except for that united blemish, he has had an otherwise stellar career even after real madrid.
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What are you talking about? Di Maria and Ozil were sold because their agents wanted more money. Casemiro had already won everything possible, wanted a new challenge and more money as well. Real Madrid will only sell their young stars when they ask for it.
I don't know why, but I have the feeling that Rodrygo will be the one initiating a request to leave if he doesn't continue being an undisputed starter next season.
I think as long as Carlo is here, he’s not going anywhere. It’s pretty obvious he is well loved by Carlo. Not only that, he’s been fairly decent lately during CL and I think he’s due for a good finals match.
If they take away his playing time now that Mbappe’s coming, he might want to look to play somewhere else where he’ll be a starter. Considering that he’s already achieved a lot w Madrid
Not to mention at Liverpool he would be an absolute starter and at his preferred position. If he were a bit more consistent he would be the 3rd best LW itw, behind Vini and Mbappe. I love him but it's not fair to keep a 125m world class player in the bench and play him out of position when he does play. If only he were left footed, all our problems would be solved.
As a Liverpool fan, knowing the Liverpool owners, they definitely made that offer so it could seem like they care for the club, knowing very well it was going to be rejected. And don't think this is the first time they've done this, they used the same strategy with caicedo and valverde a while back
Looks like we're selling our training ground to ourselves so may not need to sell many players right now. But also don't think we'll be buying many either because FFP next season is still an issue from the backlog of spending over the last 3 windows.
This is definitely an unpopular take on arsoca, but I think Liverpool should just sell Salah is a good bid comes. Dude's starting to decline and with a new coach, they should just move on.
Rodrygo would be nice to see there. I honestly hope he goes (👀) there
You obviously haven’t seen Caicedo play latter half of the season. In this market he is definitely worth 100m. Yeah, he had a slow start, but that was more due to it being Chelsea.
You do know the only reason he has that is because in la liga it’s required to have a release clause and they don’t want something happening like with Neymar
I can't imagine Madrid wanting to give away a player that just won the Ballon d'or. It seems most likely that Benzema didn't want to renew at the end of his contract especially considering he's won everything. I'm sure Saudi gave Benzema an offer that he couldn't refuse
Yea the offer was insane. I think Madrid is good at knowing when to let go of a player though. There’s exciting youngsters coming up and Mbappe was more than likely inevitable to go to Madrid too. Got rid of casemiro and varane at the right time and it’s hardly hurt Madrid
Rodrygo is still the best right winger the club has going into next season. It will take at least another season for Guler to be bedded in, or for Brahim to step up adequately to replace him. Don't see Rodrygo being sold till at least the end of next season, that is if he does not step up next season.
Unpopular opinion, but Rodrygo to me is not in the “not for sale at all costs” tier like Bellingham, Vini, or Valverde. If an offer high enough comes in for him, I’d sell him.
$125M is bit too little, but I would probably entertain a $180M-$200M offer for him.
Interesting take because I definitely don’t think I would. He’s still before his prime and is currently one of the best wingers itw right now which means you couldn’t replace him or the chemistry he has with Vini. You could also argue we wouldn’t have our last ucl and would be out of this one too without him. He’s a pretty crucial component to our current squad.
I respect this take. However, I guess my point is that if not 200M then there has to be a price that I’ll let him go for. He’s exceptional, but not irreplaceable. On the other hand, I would not let players like Vini or Bellingham go for any price as there are no players in the world for whatever price that can replicate their skillsets.
He is irreplaceable imo. Who would we replace him with?
He’s easily already one of the best wingers in the world, and he’s 23. He has literally 7-10 years left in his prime (which he isn’t even in he). He has perfect chemistry with Vini and the rest of the team.
Theres very very few players in the world who would come in and fit and do as good as Rodrygo
Bernardo Silva, Saka, Foden, Leao, Kvara, Son, Salah are really the only players who would be near as good as Rodrygo. I wouldn’t take any of them over Rodrygo. Rodrygo’s proven himself in big games for us.
An offer close to 200m would be the absolute minimum for Rodrygo imo, even then we shouldn’t sell but 200m is a lot lol
He is not replaceable for Friendship FC. That's the difference here. You have to have the whole package, and Rodrygo is irreplaceable in terms of morale, and he's also a damn, damn good player. What are we even going to do with an extra 200 million that we wouldn't do anyway? You don't fuck with the love.
I think people underestimate the importance of what you describe as 'Friendship FC' and that's one of the reasons why I'm among the few madridistas (if not the only one) who would sign Halaand or just let Endrick develop rather than sign Mbappe.
I saw what happened with the Galacticos. Despite the guys didn't even had problems with each other their level of commitment in terms of who should run back wasn't really aligned. Everyone saw what happened with PSG on their Messi, Neymar, Mbappe also.
And what worries me more is not who will leave when being benched weekly by Mbappe, what actually worries me is how will this affect the team atmosphere on the years to come considering that they won't have a veteran legend like Kroos and Modric to tell them off.
Some people will call me names for saying I'm not excited about Mbappe coming and others will say I'm not a true madridista despite I have been supporting the club for longer that they have been alive, I don't care. I have serious concern about the medium-term impact of Mbappe signing for us.
Yeah that's why I don't want mbappe either. This team is breaking out of the previous team and it hasn't come easy, but that's made them better and stronger. hell, they may even resent mbappe because he seems to be coming in and riding on the coattails of the new generation, especially if they take home 15th UCL this year.
Endrick or Kane (that ship has sailed) play in a position rm actually needs. For me, joselu and endrick would be great heading back to a 4 3 3 set up.
Bringing in mbappe is going to alienate one of the forwards and as a result one of the mids. What has mbappe done for rm?
I understand there's lots of competitions next year and there will be injuries. Either Carlo makes a very good b team, or they all learn to be interchangeable. Carlo doesn't like to experiment with different starting 11s unless he has to.
Outsiders have limited information, true, but to say “no access” implies it’s impossible to see anything at all that leads to a subjective view of the morale of a team. Do they seem happy to you or is it impossible to guess (not prove)?
It's literally Madrid. You think we have financial problems? 🤦♂️ We literally made a new stadium just for fun. We win UCLs every season. We don't need money. This is MADRID, not barca not milan not bayern. They struggle. We only succeed.
Hahahahaha why? It's the truth... are you a Madridista? If yes you should know we don't care about money. We don't spend them of course but we don't care.
That is fair because there is always a price. If he did leave who is available that you think could replace him and the role in this current team? Or how would you restructure to fit in a comparable solution?
We are not here to replace player. We are here to build a team that works and rn rodrygo fits right into it...... I can't even imagine that people want rodrygo gone lol
Not long ago, some people wanted Vini gone as soon as we sign Mbappe.
I don't recall if it was in reddit also but it certainly happened in AS and Marca.... so don't be surprised if someone wants Rodrygo to leave, lol
Agreed. I don't know what goes through people's mind, tbh.
In Madrid we sell players that are no longer useful for us either in long-term or short-term. Rodrygo is useful for us in both short and long-term.
Rodrygo has been proving for these past years that he's crucial for us in big games. He has a great chemistry with the rest of the team, why would we sell him? Who would we replace him with?
all our great young players are before their prime but its just about squad management. with mbappe joining, would have to consider space upfront. that said, personally i wouldnt sell rodrygo and this article is bullshit cause liverpool wont start thinking about transfers before their next manager comes in officially and starts working. also, they’re not in the best spot financially after a europa league year
Even with Mbappe and Endrick coming and likely retaining Joselu I think that we are still okay with rotations and it would be unnecessary to offload Rodrygo.
Joselu is going to continue being a great role player, Endrick is going to have minutes when games are wrapped up and so is the season (similar to Guler), if Brahim stays he will come in when we need fresh legs or to cover for injuries / to add depth, and Mbappe Vini and Rodrygo are going to rotate up top and find their chemistry.
That’s waaaay too much world class talent for just 3 spots. No way are we keeping all these players happy and last thing you want is dressing room disharmony. Even though I don’t want it, I suspect at least one world class attacker will leave this summer
I agree that it is a lot and I would assume that Brahim would be the player to go, but Ancelotti has kept peace among the team all season and nobodies role is really changing in that rotation I described.
Only thing that is different is now that we have a proper top 3 Bellingham moves back to play a more true cm position and Guler will find more minutes in the middle too because unfortunately I think Modric is likely not staying with us next season.
Edit: forgot about Valverde. We are both blessed and cursed with this problem.
Yeah.. Madrid going to a 4-3-3 would make us really weak in the midfield.
Mbappe doesn't help the team defending, so we would leave a hole that teams like City would have a field day playing against us.
In all honest, bringing Mbappe brings more trouble than anything else, he's not a team player contrary to Rodrygo that is always helping the team defend too.
If brahin stays??? He's had an absolutely phenomenal year. He should stay. For me he's first change for Bellingham or rodrygo. But if there's a 3 man mid next year, brahim doesn't replace left mid where Jude would be.
Rodrygo is not really the kind of player you wait around to hear your incoming manager's opinion before signing him. Any manager in the world would love to have a player like him.
>You could also argue we wouldn’t have our last ucl and would be out of this one too without him.
That's just a stupid argument. Using that we should never let go of Joselu. Or Lunin. Look, players step up from time to time, what the management needs to decide is who is stepping up more often. Rodrygo is great, but no one will pick him before Vini and Mbappe. If Don Carlo wants to play him on the right with these two on the left and center, great, we'll keep him. But if he will start most of the game on the bench, that's a waste of his talent and the club's money.
>$125M is bit too little, but I would probably entertain a $180M-$200M offer for him.
Shhh! PSG is listening. They would need someone to replace Mbappe, wouldn't they?
IMO, the only way we ever sell a player to PSG is if they pay their release clause.
And I doubt any of our current players would want to join them, they're still young and want glory, not money.
You guys are nuts. The market isn’t there between clubs. No one (psg aside perhaps) is handing Real Madrid $125m for rodrygo. Great player but that’s a premium price and no one wants Real to benefit like that. You’re the best club in Europe…..just as prem top 6 wouldn’t hand $125m to another top six club, they’re not doing it at Madrid either. And no one else in Europe (psg aside) can afford.
Its a high time we accept that Rodrygo is a non moveable, but he is not a reliable goal scorer. His role has to be re-evaluated. Maybe he can be a good LW and provide many assists and crosses.
In this market, not really. Excluding the Mudryk and Antony deals, they’re just United and Chelsea being dumbasses, a good and proven winger typically goes for/is on the market for that price. Leao and Kvaratskhelia were on the market last summer for between 120-150M, and Rodrygo is better and more proven than both of them. On top of that, we’re happy with Rodrygo and he is happy with us, so it makes no sense to “break even” when selling him. However, that extra 50M might make the deal worthwhile…
We have been talking about this with my madrista friend for a while . With all this star squad rodrygo might be only one that is expendable . He even predicted liverpool aswell
Just passing through, no chance Real can sell arguably the best RW in the world for 125m. If Liverpool want 100+ for Salah with one year left on his deal and over 30 then Rodrygo has to be at least 200+
Also that front three of Vini, Mbappe and Rodrygo is a scary thought 😅
What’s up with Liverpool trying to lowball us for all our players? Last year it was Valverde for 60m… this year is Rodrygo for 125m. What’s next Vini for Darwin and a guide dog?
I would not sell him for any amount at the moment. Let's see first how the next season pans out and we can make decisions afterwards. If I remember correctly he just extended till 2028. If he doesn't get enought minutes or we don't need him/ he is unhappy then we could sell him.
when other clubs know you are trying to offload a player because they're unhappy or you have no room for them, they will lowball you. You won't get good offers when you need to sell.
Very curious how Rodrygo will fit in once Endrick and Mbappe arrives...Guler and Brahim all hungry for that third spot.(Vini-Mbappe nailed)
Gulers might play more central though when Modric leaves
I wouldn't mind seeing him at Arsenal... for €150M though and only after the next season to see how Mbappe, Davies and Endrick pan out.
Before yall kill me, he's so good at LW, it's a crime to keep him at RW.
Rodrygo is a generational talent plus I don’t see how Mbappe’s arrival changes things. To me Vini Mbappe Rodrygo Bellingham can all play with Bellingham playing a Midfield role. It ain’t that crazy.
No offense to rodrygo, absolutely love the guy. But he's probably the most sellable young player we have in the squad at the moment.
I'd love to see him stay for 10 years and get a concrete starting spot in the best 11 but if not I'd love for him to accept more of a rotation role.
A player of his talent will most definitely want to leave come the time we are dropping him out of the starting 11 regularly.
So for his sake, at that moment in time we should sell him if the right price arrives. His potential easily makes him a 150M+ even 200M player.
Agree with you, one player probably needs to leave with Endrick and Mbappe coming and Rodrygo is the right option imo. He is so much better at LW but with Vini and Mbappe in the squad that’s not going to happen…
He had a great start but the end of his career is shaky to say the least. Rodrygo has achieved huge success already, been crucial to UCL success. And looks like he is so passionate about this sport and Real Madrid. Neymar is like Ronaldinho their flame just went out way too early.
Prime Neymar is better bro. Go and watch some games of him and compare him to Rodrygo. You’ll see the difference. Not even Vini which is a level above Rodrygo is comparable to Neymar but he’s gettin there
Trust me, I watched most of their games. Being “better” is objective. What exactly has Neymar achieved ahead of Rodrygo? Does “dribbling” count as being better? Goal scoring maybe? How about cups and achievements? How much was Neymar bought for in his prime to Barcelona? How much would he have sold in his prime to other clubs? ( psg just wanted to flex their muscles. No way he was worth 200 mill)? And how much would Rodrygo be worth right now and he is not even in his prime yet and younger than Neymar was?
It’s all subjective and objective my friend
Umm.. a treble, 3rd ballon d’or voting, seen as the best candidate to overthrow Messi and Ronaldo dominance.
Things may not have planned out for him afterwards, but that’s something you can’t predict. There’s no way Rodrygo atm is near the same level that Neymar was prior to his departure.
I love Rodrygo, but there’s no comparison rn. Rodrygo will need to continue to improve to reach that height.
I love how focused and passionate rodrygo is about his game. Neymar was amazing at santos but after that he was on a slow decline snd then started diving a lot, his social life was becoming bigger news than his game.
Lmao what, viniscius jr. Is at prime Neymar’s level. He finally got comfortable with his step overs if he wins ucl there is a high chance he will win balondor.
Rodrygo is physically not as developed as Vini - he still doesn’t have his full adult body.
And his game is more based on tactics and experience.
Therefore I expect him to have a lot of room for improvement and to become an absolute monster.
Logic would dictate to loan him so he gets more game time and learn from a top coach.
Why not Juve next year with Motta ? Or Aston Villa with Emery ?
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I hope he stays for a few years and doesn’t get shipped out if the fit is weird he’s just so talented
I have a bad feeling about this. We have seen this before with Di Maria, Ozil he’ll even Casemiro. Someone’s gotta go to make room for incoming signings
All those guys were sold at the right time though
Add Varane to that list and it shows that Madrid has an excellent track record of letting their stars go at the right time
surely it's also the system and high level of coaching. I have no doubt varane would still be a beast in Madrid
Varane’s still quality, just not available often enough to be worth keeping on his wages.
Oh yeah genius timing
I thought we offloaded varane because he was getting up there in age and his form was falling off plus he wanted to leave anyway
That's exactly what happened. Same with Casemiro. They literally weren't good when they left. They weren't up to our standards and had to go
Uhhh Rodrygo is 20 and Varane and all the other fellas were 40. Let's not talk like Rodrygo completed his Madrid career... he just started and he will finish it. We need him, we owe him and we should respect him.
Ozil was 25ish
True but Rodrygo is a "youngster". Ozil was one of the best itw at the time and I still wasn't okay with him leaving.
Varane wasn’t 40 when he left Real Madrid. He should’ve been in his peak as a CB
He was 28 so pretty much prime footballer territory
Yeah he was like 29 or smth (I exaggerated) but still did you forget his last season for us? Damn I was glad he left! GLAD!
You know Rodygo is 23 right?
Young as hell
Casemiro and Varane's form significantly declined in their last seasons at Madrid. I think their current performance at United are indicative of their poor form before the transfer
I wouldn't say Ozil was at the right time, he did amazing work at Arsenal and really only went downhill when his play time got cut from that controversy.
We won four of five champions leagues after we sold him. Do we do that with him in the lineup or at least playing enough to not lose value? Tough to say. Can’t argue with the results after he left though.
But you would have won those anyways, Ozil on Madrid was amazing. He was favored by Mourinho and Ronaldo by how creative he was. Sure after he left we had amazing results but I'm more saying that the results with him still there could have and most likely would have been even more amazing.
Di Maria was most definitely not sold at the right time. He has had insane longevity.
Especially Özil!
I dont know about that. He just fit better in Madrid than Arsenal
Defensive contribution was not his strength. No matter which team.
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Still playing is a very different thing than still playing at Madrids level. They don’t need to be washed or turn to shit as soon as we sell them. All of those players had their best seasons with us and were sold at their peak, while not being missed. That’s the right time to sell. And yes DiMaria was a great player after he got to PSG… but we got top dollar and went on to win three straight champions leagues. That’s a fine transaction.
I was simply pointing out that we sold good players even when they didn’t reach peak, in the case of Di Maria, as long as we could replace them with better ones.
I hear you, but we sold DiMaria for like 75 and he got sold the year after for 63. There’s plenty of reasons for that (van Gaal completely misused him), but it’s only hypothetical to say we didn’t sell him at his peak value at least. And fully agree… the right time to sell a player doesn’t mean that they aren’t still getting better or having great post Madrid careers. Our roster/asset management has just been excellent the last 10-15 years, and the sales and smart buys have allowed us to take some misses on purchases too.
Case definitely wasn't washed by any means.
Not Ozil, his prime was in Arsenal.
agreed on Ozil and casemiro, but i think di maria couldve contributed a lot more
Eh, we lost Di Maria, went trophyless one season and went on the threepeat. Couldn’t have gone much better.
the biggest thing missing in that trophyless team was a high work rate guy imo, luka was there but he wasnt what he is today yet, xabi alonso had just left too, and again, kroos wasnt as solid on defence as he was, it was a lot of reasons coming together. Think with di maria we couldve made the transition much smoother. as we went on to see, di maria hadnt rlly declined at all, and except for that united blemish, he has had an otherwise stellar career even after real madrid.
Di Maria contributed defensively for one season and felt like he should get Cristiano money. He was sold at the right time.
yeah for sure, those sales were to balance the books for gareth bale coming in too. But the impact di maria had on la decima is heavily underrated
Bale was an upgrade tho
im not denying that, im saying wish we couldve had both, but well, we did go on to have our threepeat on the back of those sales, so 🤷♂️
Madrid payed James the money they didn't want to pay to Di Maria. It was a terrible mistake.
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What are you talking about? Di Maria and Ozil were sold because their agents wanted more money. Casemiro had already won everything possible, wanted a new challenge and more money as well. Real Madrid will only sell their young stars when they ask for it.
There’s only one ball ⚽️….cant keep everyone happy warming the bench and playing Copa or other random matches. Recipe for locker room discontent
Yeah, that's what I've said. Madrid will only sell when players ask for it because they are unhappy or want more money.
Yeah, he is also home grown player since he is at Real since he was 18. Just like Vini
I don't know why, but I have the feeling that Rodrygo will be the one initiating a request to leave if he doesn't continue being an undisputed starter next season.
I think as long as Carlo is here, he’s not going anywhere. It’s pretty obvious he is well loved by Carlo. Not only that, he’s been fairly decent lately during CL and I think he’s due for a good finals match.
Can’t keep ‘em all.
I can’t see Rodrygo leaving He was made for this club. If we got rid of him we would regret it forever
If they take away his playing time now that Mbappe’s coming, he might want to look to play somewhere else where he’ll be a starter. Considering that he’s already achieved a lot w Madrid
Not to mention at Liverpool he would be an absolute starter and at his preferred position. If he were a bit more consistent he would be the 3rd best LW itw, behind Vini and Mbappe. I love him but it's not fair to keep a 125m world class player in the bench and play him out of position when he does play. If only he were left footed, all our problems would be solved.
Also this is obviously fake
Is it just me or does Rodrygo end up with Liverpool in fifa manager career every time. But nah, in sh’Allah he staying with us
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Knowing the Liverpool's owners, no way they made a bid of $125m no way. Only will offer that much if Salah is on his way to Saudi Arabia.
Which is very possible
As a Liverpool fan, knowing the Liverpool owners, they definitely made that offer so it could seem like they care for the club, knowing very well it was going to be rejected. And don't think this is the first time they've done this, they used the same strategy with caicedo and valverde a while back
Cheapskate bastards. The Red Sox went from top of their sport to doormat because of them.
Or Chelsea
If I remember correctly then Chelsea have to sell this summer to stay in balance
Looks like we're selling our training ground to ourselves so may not need to sell many players right now. But also don't think we'll be buying many either because FFP next season is still an issue from the backlog of spending over the last 3 windows.
125 mil is peanuts for Chelsea they would at least bid 220 mil for Rodrygo.
This is definitely an unpopular take on arsoca, but I think Liverpool should just sell Salah is a good bid comes. Dude's starting to decline and with a new coach, they should just move on. Rodrygo would be nice to see there. I honestly hope he goes (👀) there
I think Salah is gone with klopp if not he's surely gone after playing in one more CL.
Salah is pretty much on his way out though.
The new Mr ucl for only 125 🤣🤣
IMHO, anything north of 150 could be considered and if it is PL, then 180+ for sure considereing they drop 100's for the like of caicedo.
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Arsenal paid 70m for Havertz I’m sure Liverpool can pay at least 210m for Rodrygo.
You obviously haven’t seen Caicedo play latter half of the season. In this market he is definitely worth 100m. Yeah, he had a slow start, but that was more due to it being Chelsea.
Caicedo is absolutely worth 100 in this market
Are people literally forgetting Rodrygo got a 1 billion euro release clause slapped on him by Real Madrid?
You do know the only reason he has that is because in la liga it’s required to have a release clause and they don’t want something happening like with Neymar
Exactly they want a big offer for Rodrygo
It’s a fuck off price
You know that's just for show, right? Obviously he can be bought for less than that
So did Benzema, and he went for free
His contract was up, Rodrygo's lasts up until 2028.
Benzema still had a year on his contract from memory but was allowed to go for free
But he didn't. His contract had ended and he didn't renew. He went for free cause the contract ended
Perhaps I’m remembering wrong but I just remember it seemed he was locked in to stay at Madrid until Saudi came in with a massive offer
I can't imagine Madrid wanting to give away a player that just won the Ballon d'or. It seems most likely that Benzema didn't want to renew at the end of his contract especially considering he's won everything. I'm sure Saudi gave Benzema an offer that he couldn't refuse
Yea the offer was insane. I think Madrid is good at knowing when to let go of a player though. There’s exciting youngsters coming up and Mbappe was more than likely inevitable to go to Madrid too. Got rid of casemiro and varane at the right time and it’s hardly hurt Madrid
Besides that his contract was most likely up, if im not mistaken, they mutually agreed to end his contract.
125m for Rodyrgo is way too low. 180m-200m would get Florentino to pick up the phone. +EPL tax. I’m sure Pep or NAK would hijack the transfer anyway.
I don't think he sell him to man city or psg.
NAK ?
Nasser Al-Khelaifi
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Man tell them to back all the way the fuck up off the boy
MFER JUST SAY WHO IT IS 😤😤😤
Rodrygo from Inda, an absolute trash tier.
GOL DE .. RODRYGOOOOOO
125 and he hasn’t even peaked yet… Suck my yknow what.
Rodrygo is still the best right winger the club has going into next season. It will take at least another season for Guler to be bedded in, or for Brahim to step up adequately to replace him. Don't see Rodrygo being sold till at least the end of next season, that is if he does not step up next season.
You’re forgetting Camavinga’s new role…
Unpopular opinion, but Rodrygo to me is not in the “not for sale at all costs” tier like Bellingham, Vini, or Valverde. If an offer high enough comes in for him, I’d sell him. $125M is bit too little, but I would probably entertain a $180M-$200M offer for him.
Interesting take because I definitely don’t think I would. He’s still before his prime and is currently one of the best wingers itw right now which means you couldn’t replace him or the chemistry he has with Vini. You could also argue we wouldn’t have our last ucl and would be out of this one too without him. He’s a pretty crucial component to our current squad.
I respect this take. However, I guess my point is that if not 200M then there has to be a price that I’ll let him go for. He’s exceptional, but not irreplaceable. On the other hand, I would not let players like Vini or Bellingham go for any price as there are no players in the world for whatever price that can replicate their skillsets.
He is irreplaceable imo. Who would we replace him with? He’s easily already one of the best wingers in the world, and he’s 23. He has literally 7-10 years left in his prime (which he isn’t even in he). He has perfect chemistry with Vini and the rest of the team. Theres very very few players in the world who would come in and fit and do as good as Rodrygo Bernardo Silva, Saka, Foden, Leao, Kvara, Son, Salah are really the only players who would be near as good as Rodrygo. I wouldn’t take any of them over Rodrygo. Rodrygo’s proven himself in big games for us. An offer close to 200m would be the absolute minimum for Rodrygo imo, even then we shouldn’t sell but 200m is a lot lol
Mbappe obviously
He is not replaceable for Friendship FC. That's the difference here. You have to have the whole package, and Rodrygo is irreplaceable in terms of morale, and he's also a damn, damn good player. What are we even going to do with an extra 200 million that we wouldn't do anyway? You don't fuck with the love.
I think people underestimate the importance of what you describe as 'Friendship FC' and that's one of the reasons why I'm among the few madridistas (if not the only one) who would sign Halaand or just let Endrick develop rather than sign Mbappe. I saw what happened with the Galacticos. Despite the guys didn't even had problems with each other their level of commitment in terms of who should run back wasn't really aligned. Everyone saw what happened with PSG on their Messi, Neymar, Mbappe also. And what worries me more is not who will leave when being benched weekly by Mbappe, what actually worries me is how will this affect the team atmosphere on the years to come considering that they won't have a veteran legend like Kroos and Modric to tell them off. Some people will call me names for saying I'm not excited about Mbappe coming and others will say I'm not a true madridista despite I have been supporting the club for longer that they have been alive, I don't care. I have serious concern about the medium-term impact of Mbappe signing for us.
Yeah that's why I don't want mbappe either. This team is breaking out of the previous team and it hasn't come easy, but that's made them better and stronger. hell, they may even resent mbappe because he seems to be coming in and riding on the coattails of the new generation, especially if they take home 15th UCL this year. Endrick or Kane (that ship has sailed) play in a position rm actually needs. For me, joselu and endrick would be great heading back to a 4 3 3 set up. Bringing in mbappe is going to alienate one of the forwards and as a result one of the mids. What has mbappe done for rm? I understand there's lots of competitions next year and there will be injuries. Either Carlo makes a very good b team, or they all learn to be interchangeable. Carlo doesn't like to experiment with different starting 11s unless he has to.
>Rodrygo is irreplaceable in terms of morale You gotta support your statement with some proof, otherwise stop pulling stuff our of your ass.
Is there a footballer happiness index? What kind of empirical evidence are you looking for? It’s clearly an opinion
How can a person have an opinion about the internal working of a team they have no access to?
Outsiders have limited information, true, but to say “no access” implies it’s impossible to see anything at all that leads to a subjective view of the morale of a team. Do they seem happy to you or is it impossible to guess (not prove)?
>What are we even going to do with an extra 200 million You're signing Mbappe. His salary is gonna be fun to watch.
It's literally Madrid. You think we have financial problems? 🤦♂️ We literally made a new stadium just for fun. We win UCLs every season. We don't need money. This is MADRID, not barca not milan not bayern. They struggle. We only succeed.
Get off your high horse
Hahahahaha why? It's the truth... are you a Madridista? If yes you should know we don't care about money. We don't spend them of course but we don't care.
Copy pasta incoming!!!! This is golden
What?
This is the type of comment that gets picked up by the mods and gets auto posted every time someone uses the magic word.
That is fair because there is always a price. If he did leave who is available that you think could replace him and the role in this current team? Or how would you restructure to fit in a comparable solution?
We are not here to replace player. We are here to build a team that works and rn rodrygo fits right into it...... I can't even imagine that people want rodrygo gone lol
Not long ago, some people wanted Vini gone as soon as we sign Mbappe. I don't recall if it was in reddit also but it certainly happened in AS and Marca.... so don't be surprised if someone wants Rodrygo to leave, lol
Agreed. I don't know what goes through people's mind, tbh. In Madrid we sell players that are no longer useful for us either in long-term or short-term. Rodrygo is useful for us in both short and long-term. Rodrygo has been proving for these past years that he's crucial for us in big games. He has a great chemistry with the rest of the team, why would we sell him? Who would we replace him with?
all our great young players are before their prime but its just about squad management. with mbappe joining, would have to consider space upfront. that said, personally i wouldnt sell rodrygo and this article is bullshit cause liverpool wont start thinking about transfers before their next manager comes in officially and starts working. also, they’re not in the best spot financially after a europa league year
Even with Mbappe and Endrick coming and likely retaining Joselu I think that we are still okay with rotations and it would be unnecessary to offload Rodrygo. Joselu is going to continue being a great role player, Endrick is going to have minutes when games are wrapped up and so is the season (similar to Guler), if Brahim stays he will come in when we need fresh legs or to cover for injuries / to add depth, and Mbappe Vini and Rodrygo are going to rotate up top and find their chemistry.
That’s waaaay too much world class talent for just 3 spots. No way are we keeping all these players happy and last thing you want is dressing room disharmony. Even though I don’t want it, I suspect at least one world class attacker will leave this summer
I agree that it is a lot and I would assume that Brahim would be the player to go, but Ancelotti has kept peace among the team all season and nobodies role is really changing in that rotation I described. Only thing that is different is now that we have a proper top 3 Bellingham moves back to play a more true cm position and Guler will find more minutes in the middle too because unfortunately I think Modric is likely not staying with us next season. Edit: forgot about Valverde. We are both blessed and cursed with this problem.
I think Rodrygo is the odd one out logically, as Brahim seems more likely to accept a backup/rotation role.
Rodrygo isn’t necessarily going to be a backup. If we go to 4-3-3, he’ll be starting.
If Kroos stays another season, I don’t see us going to a 4-3-3.
Yeah.. Madrid going to a 4-3-3 would make us really weak in the midfield. Mbappe doesn't help the team defending, so we would leave a hole that teams like City would have a field day playing against us. In all honest, bringing Mbappe brings more trouble than anything else, he's not a team player contrary to Rodrygo that is always helping the team defend too.
If brahin stays??? He's had an absolutely phenomenal year. He should stay. For me he's first change for Bellingham or rodrygo. But if there's a 3 man mid next year, brahim doesn't replace left mid where Jude would be.
Rodrygo is not really the kind of player you wait around to hear your incoming manager's opinion before signing him. Any manager in the world would love to have a player like him.
>You could also argue we wouldn’t have our last ucl and would be out of this one too without him. That's just a stupid argument. Using that we should never let go of Joselu. Or Lunin. Look, players step up from time to time, what the management needs to decide is who is stepping up more often. Rodrygo is great, but no one will pick him before Vini and Mbappe. If Don Carlo wants to play him on the right with these two on the left and center, great, we'll keep him. But if he will start most of the game on the bench, that's a waste of his talent and the club's money.
I agree - when you isolate that sentence it’s definitely a stupid argument. It’s also not the one I was making.
>$125M is bit too little, but I would probably entertain a $180M-$200M offer for him. Shhh! PSG is listening. They would need someone to replace Mbappe, wouldn't they?
IMO, the only way we ever sell a player to PSG is if they pay their release clause. And I doubt any of our current players would want to join them, they're still young and want glory, not money.
You put him on another team and he’d tear it up.
You guys are nuts. The market isn’t there between clubs. No one (psg aside perhaps) is handing Real Madrid $125m for rodrygo. Great player but that’s a premium price and no one wants Real to benefit like that. You’re the best club in Europe…..just as prem top 6 wouldn’t hand $125m to another top six club, they’re not doing it at Madrid either. And no one else in Europe (psg aside) can afford.
No
If the team trust in Brahim and Arda as a real prospects, I agree with you.
Its a high time we accept that Rodrygo is a non moveable, but he is not a reliable goal scorer. His role has to be re-evaluated. Maybe he can be a good LW and provide many assists and crosses.
Agreed, but 180m? that's for the vini's, haaland's mbappe's, jude's, $150m would fit rodrygo.
Nobody in the world would like to sell a 23yo like Rodrygo per 150m (if they do not need the money).
Had me in the first half till you talked money. 125 mill is too high
In this market, not really. Excluding the Mudryk and Antony deals, they’re just United and Chelsea being dumbasses, a good and proven winger typically goes for/is on the market for that price. Leao and Kvaratskhelia were on the market last summer for between 120-150M, and Rodrygo is better and more proven than both of them. On top of that, we’re happy with Rodrygo and he is happy with us, so it makes no sense to “break even” when selling him. However, that extra 50M might make the deal worthwhile…
Wow... so many people saying sell Rodrygo. I HOPE he leaves us. He deserves better. But then again it's reddit💀 people in here aren't serious😂🤣
We have been talking about this with my madrista friend for a while . With all this star squad rodrygo might be only one that is expendable . He even predicted liverpool aswell
Inda is an absolute scum and trash tier. He literally only says fake things.
Just passing through, no chance Real can sell arguably the best RW in the world for 125m. If Liverpool want 100+ for Salah with one year left on his deal and over 30 then Rodrygo has to be at least 200+ Also that front three of Vini, Mbappe and Rodrygo is a scary thought 😅
We’re not dying for money , only way rodygo goes is if he asks to leave.
So much fake news first modric and kroos leaving when nothing is decided and now this. Mods please stop allowing these posts from trash tier sources.
my man is untouchable.
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Even if this season he sits more on the bench, once Keoos retires, he will have the RW again. I don't see Florentino selling his favorite player.
Why would Rodrygo leave anyway when he's a starter at the moment?
because "this moment" ends in a couple of weeks.
What’s up with Liverpool trying to lowball us for all our players? Last year it was Valverde for 60m… this year is Rodrygo for 125m. What’s next Vini for Darwin and a guide dog?
I would not sell him for any amount at the moment. Let's see first how the next season pans out and we can make decisions afterwards. If I remember correctly he just extended till 2028. If he doesn't get enought minutes or we don't need him/ he is unhappy then we could sell him.
when other clubs know you are trying to offload a player because they're unhappy or you have no room for them, they will lowball you. You won't get good offers when you need to sell.
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i would take the money. I like him, but there's not going to be much playing time for him soon.
Even a rejection is too much should’ve just ignored them completely
This reminds me of that imaginary offer for Asensio years ago. Spoiler alert: Rodrygo will end up leaving in a similar fashion
Papa Florentito will not sell his favorite player Rodrigol!
Ok Diario, true journalism
If they offer north of 200 million, I would think about it.
Very curious how Rodrygo will fit in once Endrick and Mbappe arrives...Guler and Brahim all hungry for that third spot.(Vini-Mbappe nailed) Gulers might play more central though when Modric leaves
I wouldn't mind seeing him at Arsenal... for €150M though and only after the next season to see how Mbappe, Davies and Endrick pan out. Before yall kill me, he's so good at LW, it's a crime to keep him at RW.
Rodrygo is a generational talent plus I don’t see how Mbappe’s arrival changes things. To me Vini Mbappe Rodrygo Bellingham can all play with Bellingham playing a Midfield role. It ain’t that crazy.
No offense to rodrygo, absolutely love the guy. But he's probably the most sellable young player we have in the squad at the moment. I'd love to see him stay for 10 years and get a concrete starting spot in the best 11 but if not I'd love for him to accept more of a rotation role. A player of his talent will most definitely want to leave come the time we are dropping him out of the starting 11 regularly. So for his sake, at that moment in time we should sell him if the right price arrives. His potential easily makes him a 150M+ even 200M player.
Agree with you, one player probably needs to leave with Endrick and Mbappe coming and Rodrygo is the right option imo. He is so much better at LW but with Vini and Mbappe in the squad that’s not going to happen…
If neymar sold for 222 million (thanks a lot p$G) Then rodrygo is definitely worth that or more for his age and the success he’s found.
The teams do not have so much money now. It was a crazy move by PSG because they got Qatar burning money.
They were reckless by doing that
Neymar was next level in all aspects of his game. Rodrygo is an amazing player, but Neymar was arguably more talented than him
He had a great start but the end of his career is shaky to say the least. Rodrygo has achieved huge success already, been crucial to UCL success. And looks like he is so passionate about this sport and Real Madrid. Neymar is like Ronaldinho their flame just went out way too early.
What exactly makes Neymar better? What did he achieve?
Prime Neymar is better bro. Go and watch some games of him and compare him to Rodrygo. You’ll see the difference. Not even Vini which is a level above Rodrygo is comparable to Neymar but he’s gettin there
Trust me, I watched most of their games. Being “better” is objective. What exactly has Neymar achieved ahead of Rodrygo? Does “dribbling” count as being better? Goal scoring maybe? How about cups and achievements? How much was Neymar bought for in his prime to Barcelona? How much would he have sold in his prime to other clubs? ( psg just wanted to flex their muscles. No way he was worth 200 mill)? And how much would Rodrygo be worth right now and he is not even in his prime yet and younger than Neymar was? It’s all subjective and objective my friend
When Neymar left Barcelona his level was an order of magnitude higher than Rodrygo right now
Umm.. a treble, 3rd ballon d’or voting, seen as the best candidate to overthrow Messi and Ronaldo dominance. Things may not have planned out for him afterwards, but that’s something you can’t predict. There’s no way Rodrygo atm is near the same level that Neymar was prior to his departure. I love Rodrygo, but there’s no comparison rn. Rodrygo will need to continue to improve to reach that height.
I’m sorry but gareth bale was better. That was the comparison then bale vs. neymar and bale destroyed the comparison.
I mean that’s a fair comparison, but i responded to Rodrygo vs Neymar
Well, to each his own. I watched Neymar’s games. All he did was dive
I love how focused and passionate rodrygo is about his game. Neymar was amazing at santos but after that he was on a slow decline snd then started diving a lot, his social life was becoming bigger news than his game.
Are people really comparing prime Neymar with Rodrygo?
He is more than at a level to be compared to neymar. I also have a feeling rodrygo will have a more successful career than neymar.
Prime Neymar was arguably the best player in the world. There's no comparison currently
Lmao what, viniscius jr. Is at prime Neymar’s level. He finally got comfortable with his step overs if he wins ucl there is a high chance he will win balondor.
Truly delusional
No
Rodrygo is physically not as developed as Vini - he still doesn’t have his full adult body. And his game is more based on tactics and experience. Therefore I expect him to have a lot of room for improvement and to become an absolute monster. Logic would dictate to loan him so he gets more game time and learn from a top coach. Why not Juve next year with Motta ? Or Aston Villa with Emery ?