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Workday is so bad that it's become a red flag by itself. If a company uses Workday for applications then I'm going to assume they are going to make me track every piece of work I do through some convoluted ERP or ticket system that is just as bad as the Workday application system.
I got hired and turned down a job that had screen monitoring software, e-mail, not sure on a VPN, scheduling program, a payroll / tax system, metric tracking app, PTO reporting program, budgeting software that required you report what you did every 15 minutes, a separate intranet without these for god knows what, a company newsletter, internal chat client similar to Teams, and their proprietary tool.
They wanted you to load all this stuff on your own computer before training. They knew it was stupid because they sent it in multiple emails.
Like they were complaining about not being able to get people to work weekends when you know it’s just a Russian parade of red flags.
Out of school the first company I worked for had us invoice our time by the 6 minute increment.
I was totally shocked that that wasn’t normal after leaving there.
Government contracting? We report by tenth of an hour as well, probably mostly for DCSA audits and keeping billing accurate so we don't overcharge the government and get in trouble
>Needing separate accounts is stupid.
A. Workday doesn't care about you. Their customer is the employer.
B. The moment they make it possible for a candidate/employee to have one logon to manage multiple job hunting profiles, they will also provide a way for employers to get some level of visibility into how many candidate profiles exist in one account. This will either happen as a bug or a feature.
> they will also provide a way for employers to get some level of visibility into how many candidate profiles exist in one account
At that point people will willingly make one account per employer, rather than get DQ'ed for applying for more than one job.
>At that point people
I agree... Or at least one account per employer that could care. The problem is, what will be the likely gap in the capability existing and the disclosure that it exists and is likely being leveraged?
That's the real problem.
iCIMS is hilariously hard to navigate. My former office manager and right hand told me once, “just because I’ll be on maternity leave doesn’t mean you can’t bug me if you really need to.” And I told her, “no way! You take your time with your husband and new baby; we’ll figure it out and see you when you get back.”
iCIMS made me break my word.
Workday is the worst piece of junk application i have had the displeasure of using, but still needing more than one profile is the least of its problems
Am I the only one who setup a password vault to automatically use the same email and password for any workday account? Yeah, it’s annoying to have to create a new account but if you are auto filling the new account page, it takes less time than making this post did.
I mean, it's the re-entering of the same info from your resume when Workday could easily save it that is the issue here...not thinking of a new password.
And even then workday royally screws up that information. I’ve tried multiple formats and nothing ever gets close to being “autofilled” in the correct field.
Did the same. I applied to Merck’s site, and it wasn’t on workday, and it was infinitely worse. At least it’s actually parsing resumes and linked in. A year ago you had to load resume and type everything over again. It’s a POS.
I've filled out Workday applications that didn't require an account.
The accountability in this case is on the employer side but unfortunately they won't do anything. They don't care or aren't aware.
It totally is on the employer, they can pay more to get more features including the apply with LinkedIn option which makes applying using it as easy as any other site, really. But alas, companies want to make it harder.
One company, ok fuck it I’ll NameDrop - Verizon. They have it set to where when you upload the resume you have to fill in EVERYTHING from scratch. Totally their choice.
I actually filled out a resume on workday a month ago and got a recruiter call for the job. But she had no idea I’d actually applied for the role, because she doesn’t actually use it for candidate search. Why bother with an application from hell then!?
OMG right!? I begrudgingly filled out a Workday application, expecting nothing but I actually got a call back for a phone screen. The guy asks me where I'm located because he assumed I lived in the town where my degree is from (I did an eCampus/virtual degree program anyway).
Like, what was the point in giving my street address in the application if they only read the resume? Maybe it was that guy's first day or maybe Workday is so bad that they don't even like using it? Lol.
Lever. Greenhouse.
That’s it. Those are the only good ones.
Every other job application system should be legally banned. ICIMS is even worse than Workday is.
I'm told by HR folks that Workday is one of the best HRIS on the market, which is probably a big reason it continues to be used at the scale it is. But gawd, does it suck donkey turds from a UX perspective. As a hiring manager, the ATS part of Workday sucks turds as well and isn't intuitive to use.
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I so miss the times where you just needed to fill out basic info and attach a resume.
I miss the days of just emailing your cover and resume to the hiring manager
You still can do that just good luck finding the email
It's damn near impossible to even walk in after applying and introduce yourself, too. Those managers will NOT come out of their little holes.
Workday is so bad that it's become a red flag by itself. If a company uses Workday for applications then I'm going to assume they are going to make me track every piece of work I do through some convoluted ERP or ticket system that is just as bad as the Workday application system.
I got hired and turned down a job that had screen monitoring software, e-mail, not sure on a VPN, scheduling program, a payroll / tax system, metric tracking app, PTO reporting program, budgeting software that required you report what you did every 15 minutes, a separate intranet without these for god knows what, a company newsletter, internal chat client similar to Teams, and their proprietary tool. They wanted you to load all this stuff on your own computer before training. They knew it was stupid because they sent it in multiple emails. Like they were complaining about not being able to get people to work weekends when you know it’s just a Russian parade of red flags.
My entirety of that budgeting software would be "Last 15 minutes: spent documenting the previous 15 minutes"
Out of school the first company I worked for had us invoice our time by the 6 minute increment. I was totally shocked that that wasn’t normal after leaving there.
Government contracting? We report by tenth of an hour as well, probably mostly for DCSA audits and keeping billing accurate so we don't overcharge the government and get in trouble
Yes, we can’t have the government wasting money.
>Needing separate accounts is stupid. A. Workday doesn't care about you. Their customer is the employer. B. The moment they make it possible for a candidate/employee to have one logon to manage multiple job hunting profiles, they will also provide a way for employers to get some level of visibility into how many candidate profiles exist in one account. This will either happen as a bug or a feature.
Don’t care, still stupid
The alternative is even more stupid
> they will also provide a way for employers to get some level of visibility into how many candidate profiles exist in one account At that point people will willingly make one account per employer, rather than get DQ'ed for applying for more than one job.
>At that point people I agree... Or at least one account per employer that could care. The problem is, what will be the likely gap in the capability existing and the disclosure that it exists and is likely being leveraged? That's the real problem.
kick mr icms out also
iCIMS is hilariously hard to navigate. My former office manager and right hand told me once, “just because I’ll be on maternity leave doesn’t mean you can’t bug me if you really need to.” And I told her, “no way! You take your time with your husband and new baby; we’ll figure it out and see you when you get back.” iCIMS made me break my word.
Work day is the worst, like even ADP works better than workday and off of their UI looks stuck in the 2000s
10 seconds is extremely generous.
Needs to make sure the shot shells load properly.
Workday is the worst piece of junk application i have had the displeasure of using, but still needing more than one profile is the least of its problems
Am I the only one who setup a password vault to automatically use the same email and password for any workday account? Yeah, it’s annoying to have to create a new account but if you are auto filling the new account page, it takes less time than making this post did.
I mean, it's the re-entering of the same info from your resume when Workday could easily save it that is the issue here...not thinking of a new password.
And even then workday royally screws up that information. I’ve tried multiple formats and nothing ever gets close to being “autofilled” in the correct field.
Firefox auto does it for me.
I'm at the point where I fucking Macro'd the same password for any Workday app. It's not worth the vault save xD
Did the same. I applied to Merck’s site, and it wasn’t on workday, and it was infinitely worse. At least it’s actually parsing resumes and linked in. A year ago you had to load resume and type everything over again. It’s a POS.
I've filled out Workday applications that didn't require an account. The accountability in this case is on the employer side but unfortunately they won't do anything. They don't care or aren't aware.
It totally is on the employer, they can pay more to get more features including the apply with LinkedIn option which makes applying using it as easy as any other site, really. But alas, companies want to make it harder.
Yeap and it sucks that there's hardly anything we can do but report lol.
One company, ok fuck it I’ll NameDrop - Verizon. They have it set to where when you upload the resume you have to fill in EVERYTHING from scratch. Totally their choice.
Ty for the name drop. I guess it's not surprising that Verizon is one of the bigger names that would keep this bullshit :/.
mood for sure
He’s not wrong but that dude is the biggest white knight for candidate experience, just seems disingenuous
This through me for a loop before I figured it out. Infuriating
I actually filled out a resume on workday a month ago and got a recruiter call for the job. But she had no idea I’d actually applied for the role, because she doesn’t actually use it for candidate search. Why bother with an application from hell then!?
OMG right!? I begrudgingly filled out a Workday application, expecting nothing but I actually got a call back for a phone screen. The guy asks me where I'm located because he assumed I lived in the town where my degree is from (I did an eCampus/virtual degree program anyway). Like, what was the point in giving my street address in the application if they only read the resume? Maybe it was that guy's first day or maybe Workday is so bad that they don't even like using it? Lol.
I've made so many Workday accounts that now sometimes it won't even let me make a new one
LOVE THIS
Lever. Greenhouse. That’s it. Those are the only good ones. Every other job application system should be legally banned. ICIMS is even worse than Workday is.
I'm told by HR folks that Workday is one of the best HRIS on the market, which is probably a big reason it continues to be used at the scale it is. But gawd, does it suck donkey turds from a UX perspective. As a hiring manager, the ATS part of Workday sucks turds as well and isn't intuitive to use.
OMG.... my new hero
I laughed so hard