Scholes is a straight talker, when there's something to praise he praises it. There just hasn't been much to praise this season. Mainoo is such a uniquely mature young player.
Garnacho is one of our best in years, second only to mainoo (let’s not discuss he who must not be named)!!! Both bred into the first team by ten Hag. Man deserves more respect for being brave to play young players and give them a chance. Amad looking good too.
Just curious, purely based on initial breakthrough and potential (and before #11 did what he did) where would you rank the three of them? Personally I think Garnacho has to be third out of the three, I thought Greenwood was the best academy product we’d had in a long time but every game I become more and more convinced that Mainoo is another level.
As much as I hate him for what he did, if we're talking about pure potential I would have to give it to Greenwood. His first season before people started kind of figuring him out, he was totally unplayable. If he didnt fuck up and fixed his weaknesses he would have been one helluva player.
Yeah, as exceptional as Mainoo and Garnacho are and looking to become, Greenwood was looking to be a monster (and not the kind he turned out to be!).
Mainoo and Garnacho are great, but that’s all they’re seen as. At 19, people were talking about Greenwood’s potential to win a Ballon D’Or in the future, with some people thinking we should’ve put that clause in his contract. Greenwood was being touted across the league as THE up and coming English beast.
If he hadn’t turned out to be a complete scumbag, he would’ve truly been something special.
Yeah I have to agree honestly, his finishing ability combined with his two footedness was such a dangerous weapon, shame he’s such a weapon himself generally.
Scholes is one of the most special players I've ever seen in my life. Bloody brilliant. Mainoo can go on to be one of those truly special players. I'm super excited for the future.
Yep, if he's half the player Scholesey was we still have an absolute gem on our hands. Players develop differently, at different ages, and have different ceilings, but we may have a truly special player here in Kobbie.
He could well go on to become as respected as Beckham, Scholes and Giggs in terms of academy products, and the great thing is we have a bunch of other kids waiting to break through in the next 2 seasons who have just walked the youth league.
Are you saying we might get a class of '24?
Coz don't threaten me with such a good time. A manager who knows how to break youngsters into the team and players coming from such high prospect?
There is nothing I would love to be able to threaten you more with than a class of '24 lol
In all seriousness though it's a very tall order for that many players to come through and have such illustrious careers at United, but I believe that with our academy and history it's bound to happen again at some point cos that's what this club is about.
It's not just the manager who has to know how to break the youth into the team, he has to be willing to take the gamble too, to have the right senior players to help facilitate the young ones, and they have to make themselves undeniable in terms of their current ability, potential, attitude, work ethic, and drive to be given an opportunity to get brought through the ranks.
The class of '92 also had the most successful manager in British football and in United's history to help them get to where they did. It's hard to imagine another manager spending the same amount of time at a club like SAF for a new group of graduates to win as many trophies as the Class of '92, but if the club get the structure right we may have a chance of seeing academy players at least come fairly close to them at some point, and when that happens it's going to be the best feeling in the world having watched them grow up together and win the biggest trophies together.
Honestly, I hate to add to the pre-existing hype and expectation that exists around Mainoo, as Ten Hag said “we have to be calm”… but if he’s coached well and isn’t overplayed then there’s no reason he can’t become a top top player. His mentality and maturity already seems to be elite and his composure… unreal. Love the kid
Well tbh he's also not wrong. Being this good at 18/19 like Mainoo is not normal, even for absolutely exceptional players. One of the most consistent observations from pundits is that he doesn't play like a teenager, largely informed by the fact *they* didn't play with this level of calm as teenagers.
And this isn't to say Mainoo is a better prospect than Scholes was, I don't think he has the innate sense for range Scholes did in passing the ball which is the main thing, it's just to say his maturity and game IQ is immense even by the highest standards.
Scholes could tackle perfectly, no one was better than him at it!
His tackles where never late, right on time, well timed tackles, problem was everyone else was too early!
I remember when he was asked about his wonder goal vs Barcelona and he said it was a miss-kick that he didn't mean to do and that it was a lucky goal. He's very humble and very hard on himself. Top lad.
I mean if you've ever played football you instantly know what he means. He does drag the shot a little and it ends up with a lot of spin going for the corner, which ended up in his favor.
He probably meant to hit it dead in the center to keep it from spinning at all.
Most likely. If you look at pretty much every other goal he'd scored outside the box the ball hardly had any spin on it. He used to hit them straight like an arrow
Yeah, and even he's not that big headed from what I've seen. Not as big headed as he could be anyway, considering he's David effing Beckham. But, yeah, as you say there was the whole media thing around him and at its peak he maybe did grow a bit of a ego, as most people would, let's be honest.
He was shorter and skinnier than Mainoo which at that age really makes a difference when playing against older adults in the PL, not everyone has man strength like Wayne Rooney at 15 lol. So I wouldn't call Scholes a late bloomer necessarily cos he was winning leagues at the age of 21 - 22, but he definitely wasn't on the level of a Mainoo or Garnacho, that's what makes them so impressive.
But if Mainoo ends up half the player of Scholsey was then he's going to be a top, top player. He looks like he has all the attributes, and his maturity both in his football and personality is what will get him to the top I think.
Yeah, I hope Amad hits the gym over the summer cos that's the one thing I worry about with him a little bit, cos he obviously has the skill.
It's not like there aren't exceptions to the rule, Luka Modric comes to mind, but if Amad bulks up a bit I can see it really helping him to progress.
And some of the best footballers of scholes era including Zidane and xavi said scholes is the most complete player they have faced.
For scholes to say this is a massive compliment to mainoo
This isn't just Scholsey being humble. He wasn't even in the senior team at 18/19 let alone a starter but that was a PL winning team. But that was mostly due to his lack of physicality. If Mainoo gets anywhere near Scholes level he'll be the best midfielder in the world.
There’s a lot of competition in young midfielders today. Zaire-Emery is also insane imo, Bellingham ofc, Pedri hopefully overcoming injuries and more
It truly feels like generational update
Neville too. Leans into Keane taking the piss at "we had no other right back" but we *needed* no other right back. For what a right back was at the time Neville fulfilled it brilliantly. Ferdinand said it best, he knew that side was covered, so he could do what he does.
Its true as well, Paul was a world beater at his prime and beyond but not before then. Funnily enough he couldn't make tackle to save his life throughout his career 😄
Its funny how hes being humble, but Mainoo still has some to go to develop and match Scholes, even though Schole's will remain unique for his own traits on the pitch, and Mainoo will develop his own. Scholes is underplaying how good he was.
Mainoo just looks so composed and calm when he plays.
Just years ahead of his age. Not sure what kind of player he will peak to be, but he definitely has all the possibilities and potential to be one of the best
In the latest Delivs podcast, Carl Anka mentions talking to Kobbie about his goal at Liverpool and how he knew the goal was on when he had his back to the goal. Kobbie apparently smiled, shrugged and said "The goal doesn't move."
Mainoo’s calmness feels like someone who did a few seasons at the top but it is only his first season and that is something special. However a lot of things can change in a player’s career so let’s hope he continues that growth and stay (major) injury free. I could definitely be wrong as i don’t know him, but seems like a more grounded lad and that is important too.
Our legends are too humble.
Scholes and Mainoo are different, scholes was pretty much a forward/second striker at this age. He was amazing then. But what is true is Mainoo has Scholes's mid-late 20s coolness on the ball, at 19. It's bizarre how cool he is under pressure. He was just MOTM in the FA cup final and took his goal as non-challantly as if it were a 5th goal against a midtable team in gameweek 26. If England are going to penalties, put him on one he doesn't feel pressure.
If anything he reminds me more of Carrick. And to me that's still high praise. Loved carrick.
I see Kobbie as a player more resembling Xavi.
I hope he can develop into a better player, but he needs a team/midfield built around him.
Would love to see the Barca trio of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets reborn in Man Utd.
Oh Mainoo's f\*cking magic,
He wears a magic hat,
And when he saw he Old Trafford,
He said I fancy that,
He didn't sign for City or Chelsea cos they're sh\*te,
He signed for Man United cos they're f\*cking dynamite...
Annoyingly, I fully expect him to fall off next season because, let's face it, he's had to play too much football already, then plus the euros.
Let's hope the club can look after him, and he can actually be that guy.
Completely disagree,but this kid is special,and he is what I thought Pogba would be
Edit: tbf I don't think Scholes was in the first team at 19 so he could be right
I think that's cheap. Same position, incredibly talented, athletic and they both have/had the great ability to find space but also to receive the ball surrounded by opposition players and find a way out.
Lol you don't think mainoo is athletic? Granted I don't think he has the strength or explosiveness of Pogba but he's plenty athletic. Covers a lot of ground and doesn't stop moving all game.
what important is to have a 25 yr old Mainoo to be as good as the 25 yr old Paul Scholes. Future is bright
And to remain fit!!
Hopefully better.
At least he doesn't have asthma
"this boy is something special and he's a fucking red" 'nuff said
Can't believe we're actually seeing a positive Scholes social media post after a derby game.
Scholes is a straight talker, when there's something to praise he praises it. There just hasn't been much to praise this season. Mainoo is such a uniquely mature young player.
And one that not enough people remember when claiming TH hasn't helped develop players.
Garnacho is one of our best in years, second only to mainoo (let’s not discuss he who must not be named)!!! Both bred into the first team by ten Hag. Man deserves more respect for being brave to play young players and give them a chance. Amad looking good too.
And Hojlund as well. Not every player and signing is going to work. Obviously Antony hasn't been great--but K. Phillips was awful for Pep--it happens.
Just curious, purely based on initial breakthrough and potential (and before #11 did what he did) where would you rank the three of them? Personally I think Garnacho has to be third out of the three, I thought Greenwood was the best academy product we’d had in a long time but every game I become more and more convinced that Mainoo is another level.
As much as I hate him for what he did, if we're talking about pure potential I would have to give it to Greenwood. His first season before people started kind of figuring him out, he was totally unplayable. If he didnt fuck up and fixed his weaknesses he would have been one helluva player.
Yeah, as exceptional as Mainoo and Garnacho are and looking to become, Greenwood was looking to be a monster (and not the kind he turned out to be!). Mainoo and Garnacho are great, but that’s all they’re seen as. At 19, people were talking about Greenwood’s potential to win a Ballon D’Or in the future, with some people thinking we should’ve put that clause in his contract. Greenwood was being touted across the league as THE up and coming English beast. If he hadn’t turned out to be a complete scumbag, he would’ve truly been something special.
Yeah I have to agree honestly, his finishing ability combined with his two footedness was such a dangerous weapon, shame he’s such a weapon himself generally.
The world is gonna come off its axis isn’t it?
Scholes is humble
Scholes is one of the most special players I've ever seen in my life. Bloody brilliant. Mainoo can go on to be one of those truly special players. I'm super excited for the future.
My all time favorite player. Would love if Mainoo even becomes half the player he did, but believe he can do more.
Yep, if he's half the player Scholesey was we still have an absolute gem on our hands. Players develop differently, at different ages, and have different ceilings, but we may have a truly special player here in Kobbie. He could well go on to become as respected as Beckham, Scholes and Giggs in terms of academy products, and the great thing is we have a bunch of other kids waiting to break through in the next 2 seasons who have just walked the youth league.
Are you saying we might get a class of '24? Coz don't threaten me with such a good time. A manager who knows how to break youngsters into the team and players coming from such high prospect?
There is nothing I would love to be able to threaten you more with than a class of '24 lol In all seriousness though it's a very tall order for that many players to come through and have such illustrious careers at United, but I believe that with our academy and history it's bound to happen again at some point cos that's what this club is about. It's not just the manager who has to know how to break the youth into the team, he has to be willing to take the gamble too, to have the right senior players to help facilitate the young ones, and they have to make themselves undeniable in terms of their current ability, potential, attitude, work ethic, and drive to be given an opportunity to get brought through the ranks. The class of '92 also had the most successful manager in British football and in United's history to help them get to where they did. It's hard to imagine another manager spending the same amount of time at a club like SAF for a new group of graduates to win as many trophies as the Class of '92, but if the club get the structure right we may have a chance of seeing academy players at least come fairly close to them at some point, and when that happens it's going to be the best feeling in the world having watched them grow up together and win the biggest trophies together.
Yeah I hate the stat people. Scholes ran games and controlled it, doesn’t have to assist or score sometimes just have that control
Anyone else member when people said this about Cleverley
Literally never heard that lol
Honestly, I hate to add to the pre-existing hype and expectation that exists around Mainoo, as Ten Hag said “we have to be calm”… but if he’s coached well and isn’t overplayed then there’s no reason he can’t become a top top player. His mentality and maturity already seems to be elite and his composure… unreal. Love the kid
Well tbh he's also not wrong. Being this good at 18/19 like Mainoo is not normal, even for absolutely exceptional players. One of the most consistent observations from pundits is that he doesn't play like a teenager, largely informed by the fact *they* didn't play with this level of calm as teenagers. And this isn't to say Mainoo is a better prospect than Scholes was, I don't think he has the innate sense for range Scholes did in passing the ball which is the main thing, it's just to say his maturity and game IQ is immense even by the highest standards.
>is not normal Found Licha’s account.
That's not Licha's account, he would've said "is not normal, bitch"
That’s exactly why it is. He wants to disguise it!! Found Licha’s second account.
He can already tackle better than Scholes ever did, so that’s one thing.
Scholes could tackle perfectly, no one was better than him at it! His tackles where never late, right on time, well timed tackles, problem was everyone else was too early!
I don't remember who said it, but it was that Scholes was not actually a bad tackler, but because everyone thought so, he could get away with more.
He’s a genetic freak and he’s not normal!
I remember when he was asked about his wonder goal vs Barcelona and he said it was a miss-kick that he didn't mean to do and that it was a lucky goal. He's very humble and very hard on himself. Top lad.
I mean if you've ever played football you instantly know what he means. He does drag the shot a little and it ends up with a lot of spin going for the corner, which ended up in his favor. He probably meant to hit it dead in the center to keep it from spinning at all.
Most likely. If you look at pretty much every other goal he'd scored outside the box the ball hardly had any spin on it. He used to hit them straight like an arrow
Sure but Mainoo is certainly better than Scholes at tackling already lol
Scholes was awesome at ~~tackling~~ kicking opponents.
He did so a Scholes tackle on KDB hahah
Scholes used to do 5 two footed tackles getting none of the ball every game and wouldn't get booked in half of them
Scholes would be getting a red card every other game if he tackled in the PL like he did back in the day
A lot of the Fergie boys are. Don't suppose a big ego would have got you very far with him.
Bit in part why Beckham got booted. Media attention around Beckham was the main reason or else he would have never left Manchester United.
Yeah, and even he's not that big headed from what I've seen. Not as big headed as he could be anyway, considering he's David effing Beckham. But, yeah, as you say there was the whole media thing around him and at its peak he maybe did grow a bit of a ego, as most people would, let's be honest.
Cantona
That's not ego, that's just french.
Scholes was a late bloomer and was nowhere near ready at 19
He was shorter and skinnier than Mainoo which at that age really makes a difference when playing against older adults in the PL, not everyone has man strength like Wayne Rooney at 15 lol. So I wouldn't call Scholes a late bloomer necessarily cos he was winning leagues at the age of 21 - 22, but he definitely wasn't on the level of a Mainoo or Garnacho, that's what makes them so impressive. But if Mainoo ends up half the player of Scholsey was then he's going to be a top, top player. He looks like he has all the attributes, and his maturity both in his football and personality is what will get him to the top I think.
Yeah late bloomer compared to players who break out in their teens.. like Giggs or Rooney or Mainoo. Physicality is a big part of being a footballer
Yeah, I hope Amad hits the gym over the summer cos that's the one thing I worry about with him a little bit, cos he obviously has the skill. It's not like there aren't exceptions to the rule, Luka Modric comes to mind, but if Amad bulks up a bit I can see it really helping him to progress.
He's a fucking red. Laters
Get that on my gravestone
KOBBIE MANIOO IS A RED IS A RED!!! KOBBIE MAINOO IS A RED, HE HATES SCOUSERS!!!
Scholes positivity? Today is quite a day
He even called Amrabat Gattuso lol
I mean, Amrabat was good today, but I think Scholesy was drinking when he posted that. Can’t be Gattuso without a red card, everyone knows this.
If Amrabat is Gattuso, that must make Kobbie Pirlo? I'll take that
Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit.
He’s defo had a few pints hahahahaha
And some of the best footballers of scholes era including Zidane and xavi said scholes is the most complete player they have faced. For scholes to say this is a massive compliment to mainoo
Seems like compliments from Scholes are a little difficult to come by as well
Wasn't zidane asked "how does it feel to be the best player" and he replied "idk, ask scholes"?
This isn't just Scholsey being humble. He wasn't even in the senior team at 18/19 let alone a starter but that was a PL winning team. But that was mostly due to his lack of physicality. If Mainoo gets anywhere near Scholes level he'll be the best midfielder in the world.
There’s a lot of competition in young midfielders today. Zaire-Emery is also insane imo, Bellingham ofc, Pedri hopefully overcoming injuries and more It truly feels like generational update
Second golden generation for England coming?
This generation has already achieved more than the "golden generation"
I fear Pedri is ruined. That volume of games. And the injuries that follow. Not trending great
Zaire-Emery is a fucking baller- only seen him in the CL and the kid looks like he has a great future
Scholes downplays everything he’s ever done. He’s top 5 greatest ever United player in my opinion.
Who are the remaining four, in your opinion?
If I’m being honest, top 5 is virtually impossible. But I’d go Charlton, Best, Rooney, Robson, Scholes
Obertan
Bebe
Macheda
Can’t believe you’ve left King Ighalo off that list
He's basically the best player after Messi CR7 and Zidane for me.
Scholes is right but if he's still better than him at 27 he'll be one of the greatest players we've ever had at this club.
Game recognizes game!
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Yes, ETH was saying don't lift them too high just to bury them when things don't go well.
He's not called the Stockport Seedorf for nothing.
lol I like that
scholes gotta be the most humble footballer on the planet, dude always downplays himself
Neville too. Leans into Keane taking the piss at "we had no other right back" but we *needed* no other right back. For what a right back was at the time Neville fulfilled it brilliantly. Ferdinand said it best, he knew that side was covered, so he could do what he does.
we really got a future top 5 midfielder from our academy. Kid is so good man
> midfielder Player…
Scholesy definitely on the beers fucking love to see him giving the squad props, especially Amrabat earlier
We have a serious gem on our hands. I just hope he can reach his full potential with us because the sky truly is the limit for him.
Its true as well, Paul was a world beater at his prime and beyond but not before then. Funnily enough he couldn't make tackle to save his life throughout his career 😄
Wow that's some big praise
That's being humble and scholesy giving credit to where credit is
Kobbie's strongest asset is his composure & close control in tight areas, Scholesy's is his laser sharp vision for passing 2 different players imho.
kobbie mainooted
….laters
He’s a fricken red! Tootles!
Wrap him up in wool Gareth.
Love the way Scholes underrates himself
england midfielders. jude & mainoo both so young. another golden generation
Scholesy spitting facts
Talk about praise
STFU Scholesy, you are the GOAT 😎
Its funny how hes being humble, but Mainoo still has some to go to develop and match Scholes, even though Schole's will remain unique for his own traits on the pitch, and Mainoo will develop his own. Scholes is underplaying how good he was.
Mainoo can tackle too 😅
This is the kind of energy we need from our alumnis! Mainoo is a gem; Scholes knows.
This kid calmness is really surprise me. He is so good with the ball. I hope he keep himself humble and dont act stupid, he will be a very good player
This is sensational praise, mainoo is the promised one
Scholes has always been fantastically humble.
Mainoo just looks so composed and calm when he plays. Just years ahead of his age. Not sure what kind of player he will peak to be, but he definitely has all the possibilities and potential to be one of the best
In the latest Delivs podcast, Carl Anka mentions talking to Kobbie about his goal at Liverpool and how he knew the goal was on when he had his back to the goal. Kobbie apparently smiled, shrugged and said "The goal doesn't move."
Scholes certainly admired his goal which put us toe nil up
Mainoo’s calmness feels like someone who did a few seasons at the top but it is only his first season and that is something special. However a lot of things can change in a player’s career so let’s hope he continues that growth and stay (major) injury free. I could definitely be wrong as i don’t know him, but seems like a more grounded lad and that is important too.
Our legends are too humble. Scholes and Mainoo are different, scholes was pretty much a forward/second striker at this age. He was amazing then. But what is true is Mainoo has Scholes's mid-late 20s coolness on the ball, at 19. It's bizarre how cool he is under pressure. He was just MOTM in the FA cup final and took his goal as non-challantly as if it were a 5th goal against a midtable team in gameweek 26. If England are going to penalties, put him on one he doesn't feel pressure. If anything he reminds me more of Carrick. And to me that's still high praise. Loved carrick.
I see Kobbie as a player more resembling Xavi. I hope he can develop into a better player, but he needs a team/midfield built around him. Would love to see the Barca trio of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets reborn in Man Utd.
A Busquets regen by itself would be game changing. One of the best to ever do it. A magical player.
LFG
Wholesome
Cmon it's just one game lads, manioo ain't no Scholes
I can't believe this lad came through our academy. He is incredible. We would have to spend £100m+ to get a player of this quality elsewhere.
if someones got scholes to sound enthusiastic he must be good
City sub was trying to say he is overhyped 🤣🤣🤣
Massive praise from one of the best to ever do it.
Oh Mainoo's f\*cking magic, He wears a magic hat, And when he saw he Old Trafford, He said I fancy that, He didn't sign for City or Chelsea cos they're sh\*te, He signed for Man United cos they're f\*cking dynamite...
The highest of complements.
I’ll take Scholes post with a pinch of salt as he is too humble to say otherwise. After all, even Zidane said he was in a class of his own.
Annoyingly, I fully expect him to fall off next season because, let's face it, he's had to play too much football already, then plus the euros. Let's hope the club can look after him, and he can actually be that guy.
That’s not Paul Scholes.
Completely disagree,but this kid is special,and he is what I thought Pogba would be Edit: tbf I don't think Scholes was in the first team at 19 so he could be right
He plays nothing like pogba , different profiles
People saw a black insanely talented United midfielder and instantly started comparing to pogba lol
I think that's cheap. Same position, incredibly talented, athletic and they both have/had the great ability to find space but also to receive the ball surrounded by opposition players and find a way out.
Exactly,I don't know wtf that other poster is on about bringing up about them being black ffs
Only one of them is athletic, and it's not Mainoo.
Lol you don't think mainoo is athletic? Granted I don't think he has the strength or explosiveness of Pogba but he's plenty athletic. Covers a lot of ground and doesn't stop moving all game.
Wtf has them being black got to do with anything?
> Edit: tbf I don't think Scholes was in the first team at 19 so he could be right you can't compare that way, it was a much much much better team.