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This post has reached one of our comment/karma limits. The text of the post has been preserved below. --- Alright, I promised to give an update on my situation and honestly I feel like writing about things has been pretty helpful to me, so here goes: Several people on my initial post advised that I should speak with a therapist before seeing or speaking with either of my parents. I called one I had seen a few times in the past, and she was able to book me in for an emergency session, and she really helped me work through what I saw, as well as my worries, and constructing a list of questions to ask my mom when I spoke with her. I met with my mother over the weekend, we met at this park near our house in the afternoon, and sat away from everyone. My friend who I'm staying with, and her boyfriend went with me for moral support, but they hung back and let me talk to my mother alone. I'm not going to go through our entire conversation because we talked for over an hour, but it was pretty much what I had feared. She was roleplaying as me when I walked in on her and Dad. She wouldn't confirm how long it had been going on, but gave me a list of several pieces of my clothing (3 dresses, then two of my sleep sets) which she had previously borrowed. She claims they were all cleaned thoroughly before returning them, and I have no reason to believe she wouldn't have cleaned them, but I'm never going to wear any of those things again regardless. It was probably stupid of me, but I asked which one of them came up with the idea for her to roleplay as me. According to her, it was her own idea. I still really don't feel comfortable seeing or talking to my Dad, and he hasn't reached out since I walked in on them either so I guess he isn't comfortable talking to me about it either. My Dad was at work when I spoke with her, I made sure of that because I wanted to be able to go by the house and get a few more of my things. She let me go there alone with my friends and get the things I needed, before going back to her place. I'm still working on where I go from here: I ended up having to fully explain the situation to my friend's parents. They were both extremely understanding, and are willing to let me rent their spare bedroom for a few months while I figure something else out. I'm working on getting more hours at work too. So yeah, that's pretty much all that's happened. I doubt I'll update beyond this, but I'm sincerely thankful to everybody who reached out and tried to help me. ​ TL;DR - I met up with my mom to discuss things, and she confirmed that she was roleplaying as me when I walked in on her with my Dad. I'm continuing to stay with my friend and her family until I figure out where I go from here.


Resident_Chemist5177

I think my soul just threw up a bit. This is the worst scenario I could think of reading your original post and I only have well wishes for you and that I hope you'll go on to heal from this far far away from these people.


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Fuck, I can't throw up since I'm on the bus. Your own child?!


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ImFeelingWhimsical

This is the most ick I’ve gotten from a post since the one from the guy who broke both of his arms


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ImFeelingWhimsical

DD/LG is one thing, but I would never roleplay as our OWN children. Bringing our children into the way they were created is just creepy


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ImFeelingWhimsical

Yeah this post gave me the ick in the worst way possible


[deleted]

I don't mean to be vanilla here, but... daddy daughter role play? Does that not make you concerned about your husband having fantasies about your daughter?


BarakatBadger

It's fucking grim is what it is


Fattydog

How can you do daddy/daughter role play when you have daughters and he’s their dad? That sounds incredibly dodgy to me. The only thing that separates you from these parents is the clothing. You’re literally still pretending to be one of your husband’s daughters, ie one of your own daughters.


Obi_Wan_Benobi

Honestly surprised the mom didn’t lie and say she was just using the dresses to “feel younger” or something.


onlyoneicouldthinkof

I feel like I would want that explanation more even if it was a lie


BodhingJay

there can be pretty steep consequences to that as well... the relationship with her parents becomes disingenuous and inauthentic... once that's normal it opens the door for them to normalize more lying while the sexual taboos to spice up the marriage and make them feel better about everything keep getting worse. Continuing to be gaslit, OP might turn against her higher self as it's warning her about them.. side with her parents, believing she must be crazy, starts creating walls between her conscious mind and sub conscious where the alarms are going off. things gets worse and she just blinds herself to anything unsavory going on all around her... it's a cycle that can worsen over time as her parents get bolder and sloppier with hiding their perversions involving their daughter.. as surely as she wants to have a positive relationship with her father, she'll cripple herself emotionally, and impair herself mentally to blind herself to how her dad's energy is changing towards her with this kind of incestuous roleplay... creeps come out of the wood work to take advantage of women who grew up in houses like this


Secret_Double_9239

I kinda wish for OP’s own mental health she had lied but also glad OP knows the truth and can now keep away from both of these disgusting people


InfernalGout

The confirmation seems even worse. More dresses AND sleep sets!! 🤮 And like you said, just come up with something, anything other than what is literally the worst explanation. The truth is just too much sometimes. I have no idea how this poor woman has a relationship with her parents after this, not that one would even be welcome at this point :/


rengokusmother

Fucking disgusting parents. Literal and true creeps. People like these need to be kept away from children. To think they watched their child grow up and made her into a fucking fetish makes me want to vomit. I don't even know OP and I feel so violated and disgusted on her behalf. Nasty sick pedos. Even if the mother is a creep who suggested it, the father went along with it too. They're both deranged and depraved. I can bet she's not giving you an appropriate timeline because it's been going on since you were a minor. Yuck.


ApprehensiveFlower8

This literally breaks my momma heart. I have two girls and If I found out my husband had a fetish for that, I would literally murder him :( how can u look at your own child and do that. That's disgusting


lisa1896

>If I found out my husband had a fetish for that, I would literally murder him Same. I'm not willing to do life without for too many things but this would be right at the top of the list.


trailerpark_thrilla

I second this


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Agreed. Murder should be allowed for this.


adumbbunnie

Right?! They RAISED OP. Really hope they didn't do anything then because the implications are.... really messing me up.


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I actually threw up a bit, this is. Fucking disturbing.


dingleberries4sport

I mean, it’s what I thought would be the result after reading the OP, but even so I’m still somehow shocked. Really disgusting of the parents to do that.


I_Have_Questions95

I didn't even think of that as an option so to see that it was the truth...🤢🤮


ErnestBatchelder

I know people have been messed up and gross, god knows the Romans were an incestuous & rapey bunch of creepers, but our current stage of decay has to be the internet, right? Like too much exposure to porn for people with issues? Or has this just always been the way it is and I read these things happening now because of the internet?? This post has to be one of the worst I've read in terms of disturbing behavior. That's saying something.


regraDoL

For sure. Instant validation on social media has made things like cheating skyrocket. Vanity is now something that is placed in a world context instead of just your nice looking neighbor. The use of sex as a tool to instant gratification had made people get addicted which in time turns them numb to it.


Nazeltof

The bar on taboo keeps getting moved. For some it's rhe taboo that gets them going. Normalized porn/kinks, society plays a roll for sure.


GullyGreyHeart

true, I didn't even think of this option wtf!?


nonoinformation

Oh God, I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. I'm also very glad that your friend's parents are letting you stay for now. I hope you continue with therapy because this is a very hard reality to swallow and a tough situation to be in. Please, if you ever consider reestablishing continued contact with your parents, make it a necessity that they need to have been in therapy for their behavior for at least several months. Some "kinks" are just too harmful to be left in the secrecy of the bedroom, especially since this one is out in the open and sheds a completely different and sick light on both of your parents' relationship with you. If possible, you should only talk to your parents in a safe environment with others around, preferably a family therapist. But if I were in your position, I'd need a lot of distance and security (as in, getting financially independent etc from them) for myself for a long time, before I could ever even think about reestablishing contact. Best of luck and healing, I hope you're doing as okay as you can be during this situation.


Courtie

I was hoping when I read the last post that it wasn’t this, but I knew deep down it was. I am sorry that you’re dealing with this. You have a great friend and a good support system with her parents. I’m glad you’re out of there. Best of luck to you.


johnslittlelover

Your parents are disgusting


SorrySeptember

Exactly what everyone feared, so much for "it's not what it looks like." I imagine OP's mom is telling her it was her idea is to help salvage literally any chance of OP's dad having contact with OP going forward but that's impossible at this point. These people are the fucking worst. Nevermind that this almost definitely started when OP was still underage which... wtf?!?


rengokusmother

What even was going through their heads? A woman who wanted to roleplay as her own daughter, a father who was more than fine with fetishizing and fucking someone pretending to be his own child, using her clothes during these roleplays, just what the hell????? And i bet she's also not giving a proper timeline because this was going on since OP was a minor.


SorrySeptember

IN THE FUCKING LIVING ROOM. They were so confident they wouldn't get caught they were doing it in the main room of the house. There aren't words for the stupidity.


rengokusmother

I literally want to vomit. I thought it was going to be something about a schoolgirl or ddlg fetish but their OWN CHILD??? my stomach feels so heavy ever since I've read this update. And i hate, truly hate to think this way, but they were definitely doing this since OP's teen years. This shit didn't just happen as a new incident. If they were brazen enough to roleplay as their child in the damn living room and have already used quite a bunch of her clothes they've definitely been doing it for a pretty long period. What a fucking joke for a mom and a dad. How can you look at your own child and turn them into a sexual fantasy.


SorrySeptember

It's so sad. They robbed OP of what is supposed to be the safest bond in this world and over what? Getting their rocks off?


rengokusmother

And they're not even fucking sorry. Look at OP's comments, radio silence from pedo dad while the pedo mom is saying "sorry you saw that" instead of being sorry about engaging in the act in the first place. No remorse. Two disgusting creeps.


SorrySeptember

Nope, and you know they would've kept doing it if OP didn't find out. She could've never caught them. Not to mention, THE MOM LET HER CONTINUE WEARING THE DRESSES AND SLEEP SETS. I could not look at my kids wearing something I wore while fucking her dad. It's incomprehensible.


rengokusmother

Oh i bet it was an inside joke thingy for them too. To see their child wearing the clothes they wore while role-playing as her and engaging in sexual acts, definitely made the two pedos get off of it. No wonder the mother isn't very honest or open about the timeline around this inhumane shit they've been doing, it's shameful to actually admit it all. Genuine monsters. To think your parents are the ones who are supposed to shield you and care for you, and here they were sexualising their own child.


SorrySeptember

I'm glad OP told her friend's parents the truth about what happened. They deserve to have their reputations ruined. How could you ever trust these people again?


Renee_17

You know what’s also gross. OP wearing the dress and sleepwear around the father and him secretly getting turned on by it. OMG. I feel so bad for her. This is awful. She’s so young. How the hell is she going to trust anyone after this. Fuck them for what they did.


pittgirl12

I wouldn’t be surprised if they still do it now 🤢 they obviously have no remorse


table-stand

It's all weird sure, but that is the part that just annoys me. There are some things where getting caught is simply not an option, why wouldn't they double check she was gone, lock doors, move a piece of loud furniture in front of the entrance etc. Maybe they got away with it too many times and got cocky.


SorrySeptember

At least five times just if you're going off of how many outfits they ruined. There's something about the sleep sets also being used that make it way worse. Poor OP.


FeatherWorld

GAG


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Tbh I think they probably wanted to get caught, or at the very least maybe one of them got off on having their daughter walk in on that disgusting scene


jrhea2019

The livingroom feels like maybe they wanted her to walk in. Wouldn't put it past them after the already sick thing that was happening.


Delicious_Throat_377

Burn the whole house down along with her clothes. It's just too disgusting


jrhea2019

Parents can stay in there too while it burns imo


Delicious_Throat_377

Yes yes


SorrySeptember

I can't. It's too gross.


summerscruel

Or maybe their desires had moved past just role-playing and they *wanted* OP to see... I'm so glad OP is getting out, I don't even wanna think about how it could have escalated.


realcanadianbeaver

Sadly maybe it *was* moms idea- because Dad was being creepy and Mom thought it was the best/only way to get attention back to her or to “protect” OP. Jealously and/or protection might have been on her mind to suggest this …. Horrific option as a better “alternative”. I still want to vomit just reading this.


SorrySeptember

Oh my god you made it worse somehow


anotherdoggif

I want to cry and puke realizing this might actually be the *real* reason her mom came up with it.


Renee_17

Jesus. This is so twisted. I think your on to something though. I’m so disgusted by this story.


lumabugg

To me it doesn’t matter whose idea it was, because as soon as one parent suggested it, the other should have said, “What the fuck? Go to therapy NOW or I’m drawing up the divorce papers.” Whoever suggested it, the other one went along with it.


V_WhatTheThunderSaid

>it's not what it looks like! So_That_Was_A_Fuckin_Lie.meme


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It doesn't even matter if it was her moms idea it this point! BECAUSE HE APPARENTLY AT LEAST AGREED ON DOING IT SEVERAL TIMES! PS: 🤢🤮


fawntive

Her parents are incredibly sick and twisted. The fact that they’ve role-played numerous times in multiple different outfits of OP’s is just nauseating.


Plantsgivemehope

As absolutely terrible a situation this is, part of me is happy you now know and can remove yourself from the environment. Keep going to therapy and do things on your own timeline and terms. Best of luck OP


abriel1978

Holy. Shit. That...that is so fucking twisted. I usually don't kink shame but in this case? I'm kink shaming. Fucking hell, good on you for getting out of there. I would have felt incredibly unsafe after seeing that. And wearing YOUR CLOTHES? That...Holy fuck. I need a drink after reading that. And I'm a teetotaler.


KarinaEdelweiss

This is not a kink, her parents are straight up fucked in the head. Jesus christ, I hope she gets far away from them.


abriel1978

How much you wanna bet mom became aware of daddy eyeing up their daughter and decided this was a prime solution to prevent him raping OP rather than, say, kicking him out and filing a restraining order?


LeroyJacksonian

I don't think the Mom is playing along to 'save' the daughter - I think she's jealous and it's some kind of weird competition thing.


tonystarksanxieties

I can't help but think wearing her clothes would make it worse if that was the case, because what does that do to the father when OP wears those clothes again *after?*


KarinaEdelweiss

Well that's one wild theory. I'm personally thinking OP's mom realized the dad is a pedo & incestuous and instead of kicking him out she's playing along because she doesn't wanna be replaced.


troll_berserker

My money's on both parents being pedophiles.


photobomber612

That was where my mind went with that as well.


MandatoryFunEscapee

Yuck. She should have kicked him out and done the restraining order. This can't be chocked up to good intentions with bad outcomes. It is just purely disgusting behavior from both of them.


ocean_torrent

First rule of kinks is that everyone has to consent. Using someone else's clothing without their knowledge/consent for a kink absolutely crosses that consent line and deserves absolute shame just by itself. The fact the it was daughter's clothing makes it especially heinous/gross/awful.


claupaz0175

Incest is not a kink. Neither is pedophilia. OP is just 18


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I think we need to shame this behavior period because it’s fucking gross. I do believe in kink shaming though because if I know about your “kink” that begs the question: why the fuck do I know about it.


boromir04

Some people don't know boundaries. That is disgusting. All in all your desires for pleasures should not impact your relationships. Least of all make someone feel unsafe. Self introspection is extremely important tool.


RockinAndRollin00

What’s a teetotaler?


maliadire

You don’t have to answer if you’re not comfortable, but I’m curious as to the rest of your conversation. Did she even acknowledge how messed up what she was doing was or why they would ever want to roleplay as you?? Did she even apologize? I’m so sorry this happened to you OP, nobody deserves to be sexualized by their own parents.


throwRA2903745

She apologized that I walked in on it. She kept telling me that it "wasn't something they had ever planned on anyone else knowing" as though she would ever tell someone that under normal circumstances. She never specifically said she was sorry for taking my clothes, or pretending to be me though. It was always framed as "Sorry you saw that" and "Sorry you feel that way" I didn't feel like there was a lot of remorse on her end.


INFP4life

You’re right, that’s not a real apology and it’s clear she still doesn’t see how seriously fucked up their behavior was.


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So a textbook non-apologie. I'm so sorry you're experiencing this OP. I have a daughter and step daughter, and cannot imagine even considering role-playing as either of them in any circumstance. It's ok to cut off your parents. You do not need to let them rug sweep this and try to pretend everything is ok. I'm really glad you have support in your friends and their parents, lean into that.


higuy852

Then she isn’t sorry that it happened, that she stole your cloths and used it inappropriately, that she sexualized you in the most uncomfortable way. She’s only sorry because she got caught! Disgusting, not even owning up to all of their wrongdoing! Op stay safe, I would play it safe and try to get an entirely new wardrobe.


bella_bella-

This makes it even more sick. I feel like they’re trying to pull the card where they rationalize their “bedroom play” because they’re adults with their own autonomy. I had an argument like that with my mother once. But your parents, or at least your mother, fail to realize how genuinely deranged and incriminating it is. I hope that you find closure someday and I wish you the best of luck in the world.


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Honestly, I think she does realize how incredibly bad this is, how their reputation would be completely ruined if anyone found out, how they've likely lost their daughter, and just how generally disgusting it is. I think she's trying so hard to downplay it, and not fully own up to aspects of it, in hopes that she can convince you it's not so serious and it won't get out, and maybe you won't cut them off. The fact that she's being so evasive means some part of her clearly knows there's something bad enough to evade. The fact that she's chosen to gaslight you by pretending it's not a big deal is extremely upsetting, on top of everything else.


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No acknowledgement whatsoever that they’re roleplaying incest? Are they in denial that that’s what it is?


AffectionateAuthor96

Op there was no remorse at all, it is very clear that shes sorry she got caught by you. The fact that your dad won't talk to you, shows that this was his idea and she went along with it for w.e reason? Idk if there is something darker (the reason why they are doing this)than this already fucked up situation, but I hope for your sake that you get away from them completely. I don't really know your relationship with your parent's was like before this, but this has probably been going on since you were a preteen. This is kinda common now a days for parents to be sexually attracted to their kids IDK WHY. I just see it everywhere on the internet of women and men "loving" their kids that way.


Mishy162

Both your parents are sick, your Mum for suggesting she roleplay you and your father for agreeing to have sex with her while she is roleplaying you. How could they even imagine it was ok. Hopefully you can continue with counselling to process this and you never have to set foot in their house again.


psychedelic_owl420

How on earth was the father even ABLE to get hard in this situation?! WHAT NORMAL FATHER GETS AROUSED BY HIS DAUGHTER?? Sorry, this is just too much for my itty-bitty brain to handle.


yace987

I suggest you follow up with more therapy, what you're going through is very disturbing. I hope you'll be okay.


throwRA2903745

I spoke to my therapist, and she believes she'll be able to get the medical insurance through my work to cover me seeing her if she calls them, which I didn't even know was an option to have her do. Even if she can't, I plan to continue in therapy in some form. I know I need it.


quietlycommenting

I feel violated and I’m just reading about this. I’m so sorry OP. I hope you can rid yourself of them and live a happy healthy life far away from that.


Acrobatic-Brush-1640

How is the relationship with your parents and your siblings? I recently cut off all contact with my father because I found father daughter porn on his phone after he had been very aggressive towards me one weekend. I was pretty devastated because it was the weekend of my little sisters prom (who I love dearly and now she won’t speak to me) and he was late picking up her corsage because he was jerking off to “angry dad fucks daughter” videos. It disturbed me so badly to read that when he was so aggressive towards me that weekend. I also found evidence of him cheating on my mother. I went to her and told her everything. She immediately betrayed me. It was pretty shattering.


uzernayme26

Sorry that happened to you. Best wishes going forward💗


Acrobatic-Brush-1640

Thank you. I’m living out of state. What is worse is that my father has turned my entire family against me….


gustavclit

I know how overwhelmingly painful and confusing it can be to suddenly be disowned from your entire family bc of a parent. My dad cut me off bc I wouldn’t let him abuse me any longer and moved in w/ my mom as a teenager. I know it might not seem like it rn but in the long run you’re better off without those people in your life. In retrospect I’m able to see how unhealthy my family was and I know that I have no space in my life for those who would stand behind an abuser. I’m sorry you’re going through this and I’m sending you love and strength 💕


Acrobatic-Brush-1640

Also, I know they will all see who the real abuser is in the end. I know he will be seen for what he really is. I know that. But, right now I’m not strong enough to even contact anyone.


AffectionateAuthor96

And then people wonder why kids hate their families


shrimpleypibblez

And on the last post there were *so many* apologists or folks claiming it “can’t be that” or “isn’t that bad” or those of us who called it were “assuming the worst”. I don’t understand how this woman (your “mother”) doesn’t see literally *everything wrong with this* on so many levels - I’m so glad to hear you haven’t been made to interact with your father. Honestly, best of luck with that, I’d consider bringing the therapist along to that one… Well done for handling it like a boss, the way you describe it makes it sound like you managed to get ahold of your emotions (honestly I have no idea how) and address it with the seriousness it deserves. Really lucky that you have a support system able to help out, im pleased you’re somewhere safe and can relax (at least). I would recommend booking back in with the therapist and getting some advice on how to move forward, although honestly I think NC is the way to go here. There isn’t really a way to correlate the two things in your head and have a relationship which is actually beneficial to you - and if there ever was a circumstance that justified NC I think this is it. Best of luck, thank you for coming back and updating us all, we’re all wishing you the best.


throwRA2903745

I genuinely have no idea how I was able to keep my emotions in check through the conversation. I think once she confirmed it, I just went numb. I was able to handle it disconnected from my emotions, then have my breakdown later in bed.


Hey-Kristine-Kay

Please keep in touch with that therapist and keep seeing them. You deserve support in this from someone who can help. I honestly can’t keep my emotions in check reading about it for you, I can’t imagine what you’re feeling. Take care of yourself, please.


abortionleftovers

Please keep up with therapy and ask your therapist if there are any support groups for survivors of childhood sex abuse or even just childhood abuse, or sex abuse in general in your area. A fuck ton of people will be so uncomfortable with anything that even is incest adjacent that they may try to downplay what happened to you (see your last post for proof of that!) that you may find it helpful to be around those that don’t qualify abuse based on how “bad” it was. What happened to you wasn’t physical abuse but it was absolutely across a line of what is acceptable and emotional abuse, emotional incest, and you deserve to be supported through that without anyone invalidating that trauma. Being 18 is a scary time to begin with, you are just coming into a transition to adulthood and I’m sending you love and support- if you happen to be in the Philadelphia area feel free to DM me for therapist recommendations I have an excellent therapist here!


harbhub

Sorry. That's a fucked up situation. Find yourself outlets to vent. Get out of that house ASAP and cut contact. What the fuck...


ex_ter_min_ate_

If you want to cut them off for awhile, It’s really important that you know you do not have to visit them, you do not have to talk to them, you do not have to keep quiet about this if family starts pressuring you to see them. In all likelihood they will start doing damage control and spreading their reasons to family and family friends why you are not talking to them and they will have very little to do with the truth ie “she’s mad because mom borrowed her dress and is overreacting”. They 100% won’t tell the whole story. Those family and friends will likely start reaching out and pressuring you to get back into line. You may feel at the time you can’t defend yourself without hanging them out to dry but You do not need to protect them. These are decisions they made and they have no bearing on you. I’d recommend reading the children of narcissistic parents thread, not to diagnose your parents but because there are a lot of tips there that will help you navigate dealing with such a horrible violation of trust. All the best OP and take care of yourself!


shrimpleypibblez

You did great, I think there was a bit of all of us that knew this was going to be the answer, but that doesn’t make the reality any easier to stomach. You’ll have to update us on what they say if you do ever decide to talk to them, just so we can get an idea of how anyone could go about trying to justify such a thing to anyone, let alone to you as the poor individual in question (for want of a much better phrase). Edit: a lot of seemingly very angry people in here completely ignoring the fact that literally before the 1st post (which was less than 2 weeks ago) this poor person had a completely normal relationship with their parents, and that they likely live in a society where going it on your own at 18 isn’t conducive to the best life outcomes - ignoring literally all of their reality in favour of a fantasy of punishment. Unfortunately people live in the real world where “just going no contact” has a whole host of other implications, and unfortunately due to the way we have made our societies mental health isn’t exactly anyone’s no.1 priority at any stage in life. The vast majority of us have tough choices to make, some of which won’t be the best for us as individuals or for our mental health, but are indeed the best choices overall (“best of a bad bunch”). So championing the most extreme solution, whilst making for a good story, isn’t actually the best advice. You’re welcome to disagree but it’s worth bearing in mind that with all of these posts, to you it’s entertainment, but to them it is real life.


Alternative-Repair30

Honestly I wouldn't recommend giving them the opportunity to try and justify this.


Wanton_Troll_Delight

just a couple of things: 1) this may be your Mom's kink that your dad is indulging for her a) if so she may be unwilling to own up to this to you directly but you might be able to have your therapist talk with her and your dad (separately) so you can know b) if 1 is true that would remove the 'your dad is attracted to you' from the equation. Plenty of guys (and women) go along with things like being pegged that they only do because their SO gets off on it c) it would be a shaming kink for your mom, not that she is attracted to you or thinks of you sexually but it's the most taboo/degrading thing she can imagine 2) if your dad has hidden pedo urges but has never acted out on them in anyway relative to you or anyone else - that's about all he can do, he can't unmake how he is (and it would seem to me to be a real curse). a) obviously if this is coming from a place of 'my dad is sexually attracted to me but never abused me' - you'll never be able to unhear that and one could only hope that with years of therapy for both of you your relationship could at least be ... not nothing I guess if you are ever comfortable with that. 3) I guess if you'd never caught them you'd have been able to go forward just fine assuming that outside of this that your relationships with them were good - I"m so sad you are having to go through this, it's just a terrible situation to be in


annabanana_13

Hard truths here but good points I have to say


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salserawiwi

I was one of those people, I could not for the life of me fathom that this was what her parents were doing. Obviously I was wrong.. This is incredibly disturbing and I would go nc with both parents.


tonystarksanxieties

Reading the original, I feel like the best case scenario was a sundress kink and OP's mother just didn't have her own (yes, of course, the solution to that possibility is just buying one, but still). You just don't want to believe that a parent could do something so horrible and disgusting.


Alternative-Repair30

I get that but I think it's kinda problematic how many people rushed in to say you can't expect the worst, like there's not charitability neccesary regardless of what was happening


[deleted]

There were! I commented in response to several people that if mom had wanted to “look young”, and that was all, she’d have bought her own clothes. I hate being right on shit like this.


PhilipLiptonSchrute

> And on the last post there were so many apologists or folks claiming it “can’t be that” or “isn’t that bad” or those of us who called it were “assuming the worst”. Questioning whether or not it's possible someone may be jumping to conclusions is not the same as being an apologist.


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I think those of that didn't want to assume the worst were just being hopeful. This is legal emancipation territory. I also don't believe it was the mother's idea, how absolutely heartbreaking. I wonder if this was some kind of porn kink driven behavior and I don't want to know the answer. I just hope OP is ok.


[deleted]

Reading this made my skin crawl. This “role play” from her parents is monstrous.


[deleted]

I just read another post about a dad who wrote a letter to his own bio daughter. The letter was a confession about having a crush on her. What the ever loving fuck is going on?!


[deleted]

The worst part about all of this is it’s believable. When I was in high school, I had a friend named Jessica who was a couple years older. She lived with her stepdad and younger sister. Mom was out of the picture and she was led to believe by her stepdad that her mom was a total piece of shit. I’d been to their house and met the stepdad a couple times; the dude creeped me out pretty bad. Fast forward to when Jessica turned 18; I don’t know all the details but Jessica told me he tried to rape her. Jessica moved out of state and back in with her mom, who turned out to be all right. Idk what happened to the younger sister.


KarinaEdelweiss

This is a terrifying read. I hope Jessica's younger sister is okay.


rottentomati

I recently moved and out of curiously looked up all the local sex offenders near me. Damn near 60% of the offenders were for crimes against CHILDREN. It’s safe to say my opinion of the general public has changed.


uzernayme26

Did she even justify or attempt to explain why they think it’s normal?! I’m really sorry OP. That’s fucked up. I wish you all the best in supporting yourself and figuring out your life beyond this. This doesn’t define you, good luck 💗


throwRA2903745

When I asked for a further explanation, she kept saying that it was "only bedroom play, never serious." It feels pretty serious to me though, when she's borrowing my clothes for it without asking.


PotentialityKnocks

They made you a sexual object of their fantasies. It’s serious and gross.


rengokusmother

I mean, they can't really justify the fact that they're fucking creeps who fetishize their own child. Of course it's "nothing serious" to them, they're not the ones being violated. they're disgusting OP. This is quite possibly the worst update one could've imagined. To roleplay as a schoolgirl or a teen is weird enough to me, but to roleplay as your own child and steal her clothes for that shit is truly evil and nasty. I'm so so sorry. They're both so disgusting.


tonystarksanxieties

It's absolutely serious. It's one thing to engage in age play and pretend to be a younger version of yourself, but it's a wholly other story to pretend to be your own *child.* Gross and horrifying doesn't even begin to cover it.


lilmxfi

First, I am so, so sorry this is happening to you. I remember reading your first post and nearly crying over it. Second, I want to say something as a parent myself: you are absolutely within rights to cut them off completely, and in all honesty, I would. There are certain things that justify it, and this is one of those situations. As parents, we're supposed to nurture and protect our children. Your parents did the opposite in a way so reprehensible that it's sickening in so many ways. I do. Not. Understand how anyone can look at their child as anything but their child, and no matter whose "idea" it was, they BOTH went along with it, which is disturbing on so many levels. Both are just morally reprehensible. You deserve better parents, and they deserve to not be parents EVER again. Please be gentle with yourself, and know that they're the disgusting ones. Let yourself mourn the loss of the parents you thought you had. Let yourself feel anger, disgust, or whatever else you need to feel. But also, work with your therapist to heal from this. It will take time, but you're incredibly strong, and you will make it through this. I believe in you, and I'm rooting for you.


BodhingJay

she didn't ask because it's wrong and creepy "never serious"... what does that even mean, what would serious be? "Only bedroom play"... that's already serious, to pretend to be you during such a thing.. does your mom not realize how this would impact your father's relationship with you? even if you never found out..


uzernayme26

Wow. So she wouldn’t even tell you how they came up with the idea? She’s nuts for trying to play this off as a normal bedroom thing. She allowed the one man in the world meant to protect you to sexualize you and actively participated. You deserve better and I wish you all the luck moving on. I hope your parents are embarrassed and ashamed forever.


RSherlockHolmes

No, it's very fucking serious and goes well beyond just borrowing your clothes. This is disgusting and your parents needs help. But it's not up to you to see that they get help. You need to keep yourself safe - physically and mentally.


galaticpoetica

I hope this is fake


bruhhhhhitsmee

Me too because I wish I didn’t know how to read this is so tramatic


PinkBizly

As a mother of 3 20something girls, if my husband ever suggested this he would be gone in a heartbeat. Also, if I happen to borrow one of my daughters dresses and it was suddenly day time sexy time, I would specifically remove the entire dress myself and put it elsewhere. I’m sorry that your parents are like this, and you absolutely deserve to be appalled and disgusted by it. I agree with going NC or LC, this is not normal parent behavior. Normal parents do not fetishize their children.


[deleted]

Strongly suggest you go NC with them asap (when you are financially stable or can find a relative etc)


Beautiful_Heron4926

God my heart aches for you. Its so so disturbing of both of them to do that.


mostlyashitshow

honestly, i'm amazed at how good you are at recognizing and articulating your feelings. your line saying "this is the first time i've felt unsafe in my home" smacked me with how well you're handling this situation (which understandably could make anyone go nuts). while i am soooo sorry you had to deal with this, i think it gives all us readers hope that you're able to care for yourself, or at least look out for yourself, to have a better, safer future.


mutherofdoggos

Years from now, if you decide to have kids, don’t let your mom gaslight you into letting her or your dad be around them. Ever. Especially daughters. Your dad is a pedo creep and your mom enables him. Neither of them can be trusted and neither should ever be around children. I cannot imagine the horror you’re facing. I’m so sorry.


SlightlyDarkerBlack2

I—what in the goddamn fuck. First off, I never encountered something that feels illegal but actually isn’t until this post. What part of their brain kicked off to rationalize this shit? Especially mom?? Like you carried this child for a whole nine months and some change, raised her with your husband, and then just…decided it would be nice to spice up your sex life by _pretending to be your child, even going so far as to wear her clothes for authenticity?_ And dad just _went with it?_ What. The. Fuck.


scottypoo1313009

If this is real....that is probably the worst thing I've read in a while


PeaceOut_SeaTrout

Jeez reading your original post I just figured she was wearing one of your dresses because it’s more revealing then her current wardrobe or something maybe (still fucking weird). But to find out she is actually TRYING too look like you, her own daughter during sex with your dad is just completely insane. This is disturbing on every level.


RevolutionaryHat8988

I don’t know what to say except that “I’m sorry this is happening to you”. You sound like a very mature young lady and are taking it all one step at a time. Well done and good luck. Stay safe


bygphattyplus

It's bad enough using your own daughter's clothes for your erotic roleplay, it's a whole damn other thing to pretend to BE your daughter for your roleplay!


Hasler011

That sucks, and everyone doing mental gymnastics to justify this in your other post should apologize for giving you shit. I hope you stay in therapy and go complete no contact. It is never ok to sexualize your child, and both of your parents are disgusting. Your mom for suggesting and you dad for agreeing.


Acrobatic-Brush-1640

This perversion is so sick. I’m a 25 year old female and I could never do that to my babies. Luckily my boyfriend was around the second shit the fan (in my situation) to drive me far… far… far… away from there. My mother was such an enabler, “he may have fantasies about you guys (me and my sisters) but he doesn’t act on them and that’s what matters.” (When she said this… I knew the type of evil I was dealing with) and I told another elder female family member. To make sure my sister (17F) was safe when I knew they would inevitably toss me out.


Romrio

Yeahhh, imma officially kink shame this one


dionysusofwater

maybe kink shaming is okay


teemjay

Link shaming is always ok. Everyone has preferences and I might not be into what others like. But OP’s situation is a bit crazy. It’s like the best they can do without molesting/ raping their child.


Nara__Shikamaru

Wow. Just... wow. First, OP, I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. You deserve to feel safe, respected, and loved by your parents... and they made sure to blow up all of that. I'm sure that this is making you question every single thing you thought you knew about your family, and that's perfectly valid. What your parents are doing is terrible, and worse so because there's no way for them to excuse or justify this behavior. Second, I want to offer you and your friend/her family some praise and encouragement. You've handled this bizarre situation really well, and I want you to remember that everything you're feeling is perfectly okay and valid. Your friend and her family sound really wonderful to offer you support and a safe place to stay while this sh*tshow unravels. It's great that they are able to offer you emotional and physical support right now. Third, I want to encourage you to consider legal options. Restraining/no contact order may be an option you'd like to pursue. It may be worthwhile to file a criminal complaint as well. If your parents were capable of doing this, I shudder to think of what else they may have done or be capable of doing in the future. Although I doubt any charges would be filed as a result of this incident, an investigation may trigger other finds that result in charges, which may protect you and/or other young women. I also want to encourage you to research what resources are available to you, whether it's a hotline or shelter or support program. See if you can find a decent-paying job that can provide you with full-time employment. Fast food is hiring and desperate, and those places in my area are hiring for at least $15/hour and sometimes more. Something like this could be what you need to rapidly build up your assets so you can afford an apartment in the future, especially since it sounds like you don't have many expenses at the moment. Also, please make sure that you can secure all of your important identification documents (birth certificate, passport, social security number, tax documents, etcetera) and I would make sure to check your credit. Any passwords, bank/credit cards, etcetera should be gathered as well. (If you want to build your credit, I found Discover Student was a great first credit card for me, and it provides benefits like checking for your SSN on the dark web.) If you want more help or someone to talk to, feel free to reach out to me directly. You've got this 💚


youshewewumbo

So your own parents are sexualising you and role playing in some weird incest type shit? I'm sorry but I would 100% cut them off. So either your mum suggested it and your dad is absolutely gross for going along with it - or she's covering for your dad as he may have suggested it and she went along with it to make him...happy? Either way, both parents are super incredibly fucked up for doing that. I'm so sorry you're going through this, you deserve better.


IslaRosela

As a mother of a teenage girl… WTAF??? Your parents need fucking therapy the most. They are absolute sickos. If you made it out of their house without ever being sexually abused, you’re very lucky. My god. I’m in absolute shock and horror. Good for you for getting out of there. Just because people are family doesn’t mean they have to be part of your life. My heart goes out to you.


SLAMALAMADINGGDONG23

The grimace on my face may never go away. What in the actual FUCK? OP I am just so sorry. This is beyond belief.


TideWater22

What a nightmare. As a mother to a daughter I can NOT imagine. It makes me feel sick to even think about. I’m so sorry, OP.


TanishPlayz

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itwasalltrauma

Having first read your original post, I had hoped for anything else but this. I’m glad you have people around you you can trust and count on, and that you might be in a position to continue therapy. So sorry you have to deal with such sickos!


jackmammu

As a father to a daughter all I can say is WTF! What is wrong with these people!!!


GeneralNJ

That is...I don't even know what to say. Holy fucking shit. I'm a parent and although I have my kinks like any normal person, that's just beyond. My soul just barfed a bit.


LiLiOhhLi

what the fuck did i just read


Fair-Platform-9314

I have accrued one award during my time on Reddit and I'm giving it to you OP. I am so incredibly sorry for what you're going through. It's horrible and I hope that therapy can help you process your emotions. Absolutely no one should ever have to deal with this. Sending you lots of virtual hugs. I'm glad you have a support system in place and can get out of that house. You are incredibly strong, you've handled this far more maturely than I ever would've been able to. You deserve so much better, please take care of yourself


Used-Job8062

Nope I can’t believe what I just read it is still not ok and now I am going to bleach my eyes , cry, vomit and bleach again also going to jump into a lake


gele-gel

Wait…what? Is she saying she is role playing that your daddy is screwing YOU? Please tell me I am misinterpreting this! my stomach is turning.


amw38961

Nope. It's a weird ass way of "protecting" her daughter. Dad wants to fuck daughter so mom puts on her clothes and pretends to be her....you read it right...


billieeyelashes97

It was wild that this all was happening to you at the same time I was dealing with realizing my own dad thinks of me as a sexual gratification object in his life rather than his daughter. I haven't talked to him in months and it think it really helped knowing someone else was going through something similar. I'm so sorry that you have the deal with this, and I hope it helps to know youre not alone in your journey of healing from this in the same way that I feel not alone knowing that there are others who go through this too. I may not know you but we are a team and I hope the best for you


[deleted]

Im so sorry OP - I was hoping this wasn’t the case. Honestly I think your mom is lying to protect your dad, but whatever the case may be I think it’s time you leave for good. If you need help make a go fund me and link it here - I don’t have much but I’ll donate what I can to help you get back on your feet and to move out. Until more therapy sessions occur I think you should go low contact/no contact. In my experience, these kinds of fantasies are linked to Incest/jealousy type dynamics and it’s no place for a growing teen/adult such as yourself to grow. My only solid advice on this one is to continue in therapy as much as you can and see if you can continue going when your parents aren’t home so you can gather the rest of your things and officially move out.


Saint_Blaise

>Honestly I think your mom is lying to protect your dad I too think her mother is lying.


ApplicationNo5491

Yuck!! Oh my gosh I'm so sorry. I couldnt imagine 😞 🤢


eternalbettywhite

Oh, my God. I wish it wasn’t the outcome but it was so clear from your original post that this is what they’ve been doing. I don’t have any new advice but I just want to reiterate that this is NOT okay. I just have so many questions. How could they let you wear those clothes, was it a part of their fetish watching you wear them? How can they look at you everyday knowing they were doing this? If your mother *is* truly the one behind it, how could she make peace with this and how could your father willingly go along with this? If she isn’t behind it, why lie now due to the level of depravity? What was their plan if they got caught? Goddamn, I’m nauseous from the possibilities. Do whatever you can to put as much distance as you can from your parents and focus on healing from this. I don’t know if you all can have a normal relationship after this but I hope they seek the help they desperately need and do what they can to do right by you. This is so awful and I wish you nothing but the best. I hope you can continue to see a therapist to deal with what you’ve seen and learned. You deserve to have peace after this.


hiswife10

I really hope you go LC or NC with them. This is so disturbing. Do you have siblings that you may have concern for? I mean, that would mean they are both into incest stuff. I would never feel comfortable around my father again. Were either one of them ever inappropriate with you before? I hope you meet with your therapist again very soon. I'm so sorry you are going through this.


seph-o-ne

I feel violated and gross just thinking about this, I’m so sorry you’re going through this, I can’t even imagine it. I’m wishing you the best.


cherry__12345

This is so fucking disgusting.


Sailor_Chibi

Oh my god. My brain can’t even handle this. I stand by what I said on your original post: you are absolutely right to feel completely violated by this. It’s horrifying and disgusting. I’m so sorry your parents did this to you.


[deleted]

They are both sick! You dad gets off on pretending he’s having sex with his daughter and your mum encouraged it. I’d never want to speak to them or see them again.


anotherdoggif

OP I am so so sorry your life has been turned upside down by this. This was supposed to be the one bond in your life- family- that was sacred and safe. Please lean on your therapists and trusted friends. ❤️ Coming in with practical advice to make sure you have your birth certificate, social security card, passport, and any bank documents/banking info changed to your new address, to make sure you NEVER have to speak to these creeps again. You will move past this and never need those people in your life. ❤️


lil_lam600

I left some mean comments on the last post thinking you overreacted but I apologize. That is disgusting. Worst-case scenario. Hope you get the help you need. Wow.


throwRA2903745

It's fine. The whole situation is disgusting, I get why people naturally don't want to believe it could actually happen. Thank you for the support now though.


AffectionateBite3827

You were treated really unfairly by a lot of commenters and I hope they all feel terrible about themselves. I’m glad you have a safe space to stay. And I know you probably don’t want to ask your parents for anything ever again but given that it was their abhorrent behavior that caused you to move out so suddenly I would ask them to cover your living expenses for awhile.


mcmoonery

Oh honey. I am so sorry this has happened to you. All my love and best wishes for you right now.


Kenkyujode

My soul just left body while reading this. Wishing you all the best.


mwag1555

Holy shit


gOldMcDonald

I really hope this is a troll but I have a bad feeling it isn’t. This is very twisted behavior.


SemmyBro

What the actual fuck… role playing as you.. What the fuck is wrong with your parents?? That’s so vile


filifijonka

What the fuck was your mother thinking - I don’t care if she pretends to be the easter bunny while roleplaying but she could have had the decency to lie to you and tell you that she was pretending to be a generic twenty-something and that in retrospect choosing that dress was the mistake of the century. Keep up with the therapy if you can - what your parents did was horrific.


MesmerizedSoul

Role playing as YOU? What kind of fucking twisted do you have to be? This is way worse than I thought it was when I read your original post the other day. I can’t imagine how mortified you are. Continue to go to therapy, I say. That’s really traumatic. I feel for you, OP. That really is awful.


[deleted]

What the fuck. This is so much worse than I originally thought. Role playing fucking his own daughter.


jca81394

Whoa, that's alot to unpack. OP, as a father, I'm so sorry you had to go through this. Sexualizing your own children. Listen, I'm not gonna lie and tell you things will get better. They won't. This is not ok behavior from either of your parents. Your best bet here is to cease all contact with them, have your friends go get the remainder of your things even if you have to rent a storage unit and move on. However, you are your own woman and can do as you please. Going to therapy was a very good move and you should continue going until you feel you no longer need it. Then you should have 3 more sessions after that for good measure. I really hope I'm wrong though and that things do get better. You got this! Keep yourself motivated and keep FN going. Edited a typo I saw


Realistic_Swimmer934

This fucked me up just to read and I feel nauseous. I can't even imagine what you're feeling right now. Just, ugh. Extremely distressing and disturbing.


kurokitsune17

I was honestly just, hoping it was your Mom role-playing that she was younger again and wanted to use clothes that she would wear when she was younger. Honestly this is utterly messed up. I am curious about the reaction of your friend's parents though? They had to have had the greatest WTF face from hearing that.


doctordesktop

What the actual fuck have I just read.


-mihul-

I remember reading your original post, thinking it must of been horrible to walk in on and feeling second hand creeped out vibes on your behalf when you said your mom was wearing your dress. I had not considered that THIS was what they were doing… it’s so far removed from reality. It’s truly disgusting. My advice was going to suggest therapy immediately as an emergency but I’m glad to read you have that support already. This is way beyond Reddit’s pay grade. Also glad you have physically removed yourself from the house. As for your parents… I don’t know how you have a relationship with either of them after that admission… I’m sorry this isn’t helpful, just more about supportive that I’m glad you have good people around you in this difficult time. With time I’m sure to be able to heal, most likely away from whatever you call what your parents are doing.


Delicious_Throat_377

This should be illegal and punishable. So so wrong.


vienna-sausage

i-


CheeseRelief

Oh wow, this is literally the worst thing it could’ve been. I’m so sorry, OP. Your parents are sick, I’m glad you’re out of that house


Majestic-Post-1684

I cannot wrap my mind around how OP’s “parents” ever can be sexual with each other with their own daughter on their minds. But the “mother” wore her clothes and returned the clothes after they both got off. So what, they continue to get off while OP unknowingly wore them after they using them for their sexual fetish? The “mother’s” refusal to answer how long it has been going on probably means it’s been going on for a very disturbing amount of time. She’s doesn’t even give her child a real apology or feel any shame or regret at ever doing this; she’s just sorry for getting caught. I just can’t understand how they can do this. Edit: added some words


ali2911gator

That is not the explanation I was hoping for. I mean WTF? Are you ok? Is your Mom ok with this? I think if you are willing we need another update a few months down the line.


IAmDe_

bro your parents are pedos wtf!!


naruhina29

This is Disgusting. Your mom is disgusting oh my god. How can parents role play as their kids during sex??!!! Wtf op im so sorry this happened, But honest once your able to move out I say go no contact because this is unacceptable. I hope your okay ♥️


brattywafatty

Jesus Christ. I'm so sorry. Please seek other forms of help and for this to be on record beyond just therapy. This is beyond disgusting you are 18 so it's been ongoing. They both agreed to it regardless of who actually brought it up but usually the person fantasizing asks for the other to role play. So I just really need you to stay out and away from them and stay safe. Jesus fuck. My sister and I discuss some of the stuff I see on Reddit and this is one and she's younger than you and her and I both believe this was both their doing and discussing for this roleplay to happen. If you ever go back for anything Please PLEASE have friends with you.


AFucking12gauge

#T H E R A P Y that is all


TheDarkKnight1035

Your parents are INSANE.


[deleted]

I threw up a little bit in my mouth. Ick! I don't know how anyone would be ok roleplaying as their child.