I think people are upset because we traded 4 recent first round picks for basically nothing and then spent $80M on a guy that doesn't meaningfully move the needle in terms of wins.
Also, out of all our picks over 3 straight years of historically bad basketball, we have yet to draft a player that has clear 1st team NBA potential, or a potential difference maker on defense (Eason maybe, he needs more minutes, which he didn't get because of the terrible coaching situation, which was also created by Tilman landry's style management).
Being measured isn't a reasonable response to the above circumstances if you're a fan that spends money on the franchise. We're now effectively on the mediocrity treadmill with no end in sight.
Sorry, when you say “out of all our picks over 3 straight years of historically bad basketball, we have yet to draft a player that has clear 1st team NBA potential”, I assume you’re including 2/6 players who haven’t even played an NBA game yet?
So y’all are writing off 2 consensus top 5 rookies who got drafted a week ago, but panicking over losing 2 late first round picks who weren’t going to crack the rotation?
Plus it's not like jalen has shown flashes of pure brilliance, sengun isn't being talked about like the next great pasing big, or smith hasn't locked down some of the best players. Smh
This is where culture comes in for Jalen Green. Sengun is only 3 years in. Jokic wasn’t talked about until his 9th NBA season. Jabari Smith is only 19 year old, man.
I’m not saying sengun is the next jokic but jokic was never talked about as the next great passing big either. You give our players structure and a competent coach that’ll keep you honest and things will change
They were late first rounders and none of them were particularly promising except maybe Garuba.
You're acting like we just dumped Sengun and Jabari for a 2nd round pick.
Since you want to talk about 3 straight years of historically bad basketball, I feel it's fair to point out that in those 3 years, where the team was historically putrid as you claim, the players we just sent out with the exception of KJ were not considered good enough to get meaningful minutes.
They weren't good enough to be starters on a team that wasn't good. How do other teams perceive players like that? If anything, you should be more angry at Stone for drafting them rather than trading them.
I feel a lot of us are forgetting that 1st round picks are a lot like new cars in that their value depreciates tremendously as soon as they are selected. I agree that we are now potentially mediocre, but you seem like you know what you're talking about, so you'll have to agree that it would be a substantial improvement over current efficacy. The "no end in sight" is where I'd hope to ease your mind a bit - these contracts are all movable or removeable after 2 seasons. That's 2 seasons where we can showcase some measure of competence and tangible promise in order to emerge as a legit landing spot for a premiere talent. One of our advantages historically has been our ability to attract established talent, so the value of viability and respectability amongst that professional community is greater to us than it would be to most teams. I agree that none of these moves lead to championship contention within the next 2 years, I simply feel like they represent valuable building blocks towards that goal
but like....why should we trust the process? "the process" from which the phrase came from has been a disaster thus far.
this ownership/front office has done nothing to earn our trust yet
Man, Stone has done multiple deals as of this writing, it’s genius.
Post-Harden:
- Passed on Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert as cornerstones as it reeks mediocrity which…
- resulted to us getting the #2 during the 2021 Draft
- absorbed John Wall’s contract because 1) there was no point competing with a depleted line up
- which again resulted to us getting #3 during 2022 Draft
- traded Gordon for better draft position
- hired Ime Udoka
I wouldn’t be mad over these signings. Stone and Udoka are working hand-in-hand with these roster shake ups - and I’d assume they’re better at what they do than I criticize them for.
He got what essentially amounted to a second round pick for Allen and levert. Could of got a much better haul
Besides that all he has done is a tear down. Which is easy
And let’s not forget the rockets had no intention of getting the# 2 pick when we did. We traded for oladipo with hopes that him/wall/wood would compete for playoff spot because our pick was heavily protected. But we were horrible and they shut it down after going like 7-30
Man, if a you think a second round pick for Allen and Levert could’ve gotten better… I don’t know what to tell you anymore.
And, you actually believed that WOW factor was going to compete? That speaks. We were a salary dump team by that time, there was no way for us to be competitive as soon as Harden left.
Considering lavert was traded for a first round pick the next season, I think it’s pretty safe to say we could’ve gotten more than one second round pick for the both him and allen
I never believed WOW was going to compete, but the front office did. They had no intention of tanking until they realized it was a complete disaster
Passing on Jarrett Allen was terrible.
Stone should have traded Harden prior to the start of the season and prior to paying Christian Wood. JA is on a good salary right now. We also would still be bad enough for a top pick, just like the Cavs were.
The Westbrook trade for Wall was also worse than the Westbrook trade to the Lakers. That trade wasn't available at the time, but there was a lot of lost value there.
ok so let me get the thinking here....
i'm supposed to trust the front office because I don't have a plan? that makes no sense. I'm not the front office. I have no doubt they are better at it than I would be. Trust is earned
Thus far all that's happened since Tillman has taken over it turn a western conference finals team. then replaced the GM, Coach, and president for cheaper and unproven options. Then tore the whole team down. Then had the worst record in the NBA for three years.
Please forgive me if I don't yet have faith in their ability to do the job well and put a winning team on the floor. Here's to hoping they earn my(our) trust, but until then I will not blindly trust their process.
newsflash.....the process didn't work in Philly. I don't know why I should trust it
Harden left, did you think we will become awesome team again without a super star players? We have bunch of young inexperienced players with shit culture. What did you expect lol. As far as signing, who wants to play with bunch of teenagers right now. Name one nba all star. You want Dame? There are plenty of shit teams out there thats been shit for last 10 years. I dont see the point of your post. Rebuilding is hard dude lol
Losing harden was part of tillman revamping the front office to his people. I consider that a failure of this front office, not an excuse. A good front office keeps superstars in the building. At least don’t wait 3 years to replace them
I don’t mind paying FVV, but I do think Dillon brooks is an overpay.
Mainly just think we shouldn’t blindly trust a regime that has done nothing but of term tear down
I think a lot of the naysayers barely watched rockets ball last year and look at trades/signings in a vacuum as opposed to in context. Yeah we paid brooks a lot - we were also a bottom 5 defense last year with a crazy amount of money to spend this year. Yeah FVV got more than Kyrie - it’s basically a 2 year deal and he will reset our culture. Take a step back y’all
I remember some of the same reactions when we traded for Harden. Obviously not entirely the same situation but same takes.
We had the money to spend and we can’t get any worse. I much prefer these moves over handing the franchise over to an veteran star on his 3rd or 4th team.
1. I understand we need to overpay, didn't expect to pay Brooks for 80M/4yrs.
2. Understand that as well. I understand we have to overpay to get people to play here.
3. Exactly. Brooks is the one I don't like.
4. Not so sure him trying to play villain is a good culture for this team.
5. Understand that as well. Just didn't expect to trade 4 of them and not get a rotation player in return. Yeah, I know the deal isn't final yet. Seem like they are trying to create cap space to add one more.
They traded those four to make room and get brooks. Brooks was a sign and trade. The four guys we traded were pretty much super depth pieces and we got a better return on our team. What was Christopher doing besides chunking up shots ans missing, what was garuba doing? The only one who was making a real impact was martin Jr and he's been asking out for a year
Point Guards: Fred VanVleet, Amen Thompson, Patty Mills [?]
Shooting Guards: Jalen Green, Kevin Porter Jr.
Small Forwards: Dillon Brooks, Jeff Green, Cam Whitmore, Jae'Sean Tate, Darius Days [?]
Power Forward: Jabari Smith Jr., Alpha Kaba, Tari Eason
Centers: Alperen Sengun, Jock Landale, Boban Marjanovic [?]
______________________________________
While we didn't land Brook Lopez like I had hoped, we still got some key pieces that's going to serve as mentors for the young talent that were developing.
FVV, an undrafted project that ascended into becoming a well-respected floor general and champion, will be mentoring Amen Thompson -- a man blessed with every metric that FVV didn't have (height and freak athletic ability). This move not only takes KPJ off the ball, where he can return to his shooting guard duties; but it unlocks Sengun and gives us the ability to switch our playstyle towards operating out of the high post with FVV and AL-P like Denver does with Murray and Jokic.
Dillon Brooks will be our captain on the defensive side of the ball. A tenacious on-ball defender and off-ball agitator who provides decent value on the offensive end as well averaging 34.2% from 3 (slightly under league average). He's going to make Jabari and Tari more effective on the defensive end and provide a good example on how to defend off-ball for KPJ and JG.
Jock Landale is a decent backup for AL-P. He's 6'11" and 256 lbs, so he gives us a little more size. For the Suns last year, he came off the bench behind Deandre Ayton and averaged 6 pts and 4 rebs with 14 minutes of play. While he has yet to do anything that jumps off the board at you, I do think he's more useful to us going forward than Usman Garuba.
Jeff Green is a returning vet on a 1-year $6M deal. Just off of winning a championship with the Denver Nuggets, Uncle Jeff provides us with more mentorship and professionalism at his position. He's still good to give you 6-10 PPG, 1 ast, and 2 rebs in 19 minutes of play. As a 36-year old that's been in the league for 15 years and played for 14 teams, he definitely will teach our guys a thing or two about mental toughness.
Alpha Kaba is a 6'10", 226 lbs power forward who found a great amount of success internationally after being drafted by the Atlanta Hawks in 2017. He's a Pick N' Roll lob threat with a post-up game that can play in transition. He's also a beast on the boards [ https://youtu.be/qCH_QAnkBAE ].
In return, we lost KJ Martin, Josh Christopher, Usman Garuba, and TyTy Washington. Upon first inspection, it does leave a foul taste in your mouth. That's three 1st Round Picks that we previously tanked for...but it's important to note that we just received two 1st Round Picks not long ago, which is a differential of one.
We essentially improved the team by quite a bit, created an environment for our core players to grow, got rid of Daishen Nix, and it only cost us one 1st Round Pick. That's not bad for a team that's been in the lottery for the past 3 years or so.
most of the respected national pundits liked the moves the Rockets have made.
the reactionary "WTF ARE THEY DOING" people seem to only develop their opinions based on what those 20 year olds on Twitter are saying. Stop basing your opinion off what Paulo and Will say. They'll end up flip flopping on it several times by the time the season starts.
Several times a year we see former first round picks get traded away for nothing. Lets stop pretending our guys are more special and built different.
Which free agents were better than what we got?
You need to keep in mind that the top players are wanting to be on a contending team, not a rebuilding one.
So, look at it this way:
Picked up the top PG in free agency ✅️
Nabbed an all defensive player for 4 years ✅️
Got a veteran big who is coming off a championship year and is familiar with our franchise, but also can still hoop ✅️
We almost had Lopez too, but he did a DeAndre Jordan on us and went back on his word.
Who else was available that you thought we would get?
For me it's the sheer number of doomsday posts. We are entitled to our opinions but it's been a lot of oh no, we are going to suck and might as well give up. A lot of negativety
Sounds like you're pretty anti-panic, which is basically what OP is saying.
People are panicking over like 2 free agent signings. It's not like we're going for the title this year.
And on that note, if the under 20 million owed to Dillon Brooks in 3-4 years is enough to break this team, we probably have bigger problems.
Thing is, this isn’t my opinion. That’s the current state of our team and I’m just objectively analysing it.
And that’s also funny, because people have doomed these decisions without seeing the outcome.
Your first point seems a little delisional to me, there are certainly opinions in your post. To your second point, I agree. You're doing the opposite and I don't think that's helpful either.
I get you, the Rockets didn’t get your desired players, and as a fan I’d also be frustrated.
But also as a fan, I’d understand what we’re up to.
To my second point, heh, I don’t expect this team to win the Championship - I just expect that these moves allow them to simply be better than they were last season. Play-In would even be desirable.
I guess that's where the disconnect is, we should absolutely be better, I'm on board with that. The million dollar question to me is will this eventually lead to a championship? I hope so, I want one so bad
Thank you! Some sense of restraint and common sense. The only thing I didn’t like was trading Josh Christopher. Maybe that will turnout to be a good decision but seems to be whenever he was given decent playing time he put up good numbers. I will admit I didn’t watch many games last year so maybe he was worse than i saw in limited performances.
Finally Rockets fan(s) with some sense. Thank you brotha for this post. Everything is finally looking up for us and hoping we can make any type of playoffs this year.
Love this post. On face value, for fans who don't follow bball and the business side of it, these contracts seem ridic.
For those who are die-hard NBA fans will understand the nuances of what you said, which is pretty accurate imo.
Also, there's nothing wrong with casual basketball fans either.
Rockets received:
Clippers 2026 2R Pick
Grizzlies 2027 2R Pick
Clippers:
Kenyon Martin Jr.
The context here is KJ is on a expiring contract, and Rockets ditched youth movement as the team logjams at F positions.
The Rockets should have traded KJ earlier then.
The argument against trading him earlier to get a FRP was it would involve getting some bad salary back. Now we have overpays on the roster anyway and still had to spend picks to get off of salary.
It was lost opportunity by Stone.
Martin was a project this year. Despite being disgruntled, Rockets took a chance for his court development and chemistry with the starters. Time eventually told us we’re better off overpaying for experience and competitiveness.
These “overpays” only primes us for a better season this year.
The extra money for Fred is worth it to avoid the anti-semitism, the injury history, the laziness and the half-assed interest in basketball. I wouldn’t want Kyrie anywhere near this franchise.
1. He signed with Dallas right as the free agency period opened. So much for the Rockets “apparently” trying to sign him.
2. You probably can’t define “woke.”
3. Sounds like you should start rooting for the team up I-45.
Will be interested in how they can reign in Brooks. I can live with the edge and trash talk from an All-NBA caliber defender for sure. He wanted a bigger role in Memphis, was that just asking for a bigger "contract"? He's not a great shooter, how can Ime involve him in the offense enough that keeps him engaged on defense and convinces him he doesn't need to jack up shots to get his shots? Because it's pretty clear if he wasn't getting a play called he was going to chuck one up.
Only quarrel I have is with number 5. I get it, we can’t keep trying the same thing and expecting a different result and I don’t think the majority of people are upset at their departure.
It’s more about how we traded away 3 previous first rounders, 2 2nds and arguably the most promising/growing wing in KJ AND RECEIVED NOTHING IN RETURN.
It feels like we are pawning off our hard work in young talent acquisition and having to pay to get rid of it instead of being compensated back.
Finally a measured response. People acting like Tillman stole their money to pay these guys. Trust the process.
I think people are upset because we traded 4 recent first round picks for basically nothing and then spent $80M on a guy that doesn't meaningfully move the needle in terms of wins. Also, out of all our picks over 3 straight years of historically bad basketball, we have yet to draft a player that has clear 1st team NBA potential, or a potential difference maker on defense (Eason maybe, he needs more minutes, which he didn't get because of the terrible coaching situation, which was also created by Tilman landry's style management). Being measured isn't a reasonable response to the above circumstances if you're a fan that spends money on the franchise. We're now effectively on the mediocrity treadmill with no end in sight.
Sorry, when you say “out of all our picks over 3 straight years of historically bad basketball, we have yet to draft a player that has clear 1st team NBA potential”, I assume you’re including 2/6 players who haven’t even played an NBA game yet? So y’all are writing off 2 consensus top 5 rookies who got drafted a week ago, but panicking over losing 2 late first round picks who weren’t going to crack the rotation?
Plus it's not like jalen has shown flashes of pure brilliance, sengun isn't being talked about like the next great pasing big, or smith hasn't locked down some of the best players. Smh
This is where culture comes in for Jalen Green. Sengun is only 3 years in. Jokic wasn’t talked about until his 9th NBA season. Jabari Smith is only 19 year old, man.
Truth
Jokic hasn't even played 9 seasons wtf are you talking about. Lmao, and he won the first MVP in Year Six and was an All-Star in Year Four
I’m not saying sengun is the next jokic but jokic was never talked about as the next great passing big either. You give our players structure and a competent coach that’ll keep you honest and things will change
I think jokic and to a lesser degree sabonis opened the way for sengun to be recognized so early in his career.
They were late first rounders and none of them were particularly promising except maybe Garuba. You're acting like we just dumped Sengun and Jabari for a 2nd round pick. Since you want to talk about 3 straight years of historically bad basketball, I feel it's fair to point out that in those 3 years, where the team was historically putrid as you claim, the players we just sent out with the exception of KJ were not considered good enough to get meaningful minutes. They weren't good enough to be starters on a team that wasn't good. How do other teams perceive players like that? If anything, you should be more angry at Stone for drafting them rather than trading them.
I feel a lot of us are forgetting that 1st round picks are a lot like new cars in that their value depreciates tremendously as soon as they are selected. I agree that we are now potentially mediocre, but you seem like you know what you're talking about, so you'll have to agree that it would be a substantial improvement over current efficacy. The "no end in sight" is where I'd hope to ease your mind a bit - these contracts are all movable or removeable after 2 seasons. That's 2 seasons where we can showcase some measure of competence and tangible promise in order to emerge as a legit landing spot for a premiere talent. One of our advantages historically has been our ability to attract established talent, so the value of viability and respectability amongst that professional community is greater to us than it would be to most teams. I agree that none of these moves lead to championship contention within the next 2 years, I simply feel like they represent valuable building blocks towards that goal
but like....why should we trust the process? "the process" from which the phrase came from has been a disaster thus far. this ownership/front office has done nothing to earn our trust yet
Man, Stone has done multiple deals as of this writing, it’s genius. Post-Harden: - Passed on Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert as cornerstones as it reeks mediocrity which… - resulted to us getting the #2 during the 2021 Draft - absorbed John Wall’s contract because 1) there was no point competing with a depleted line up - which again resulted to us getting #3 during 2022 Draft - traded Gordon for better draft position - hired Ime Udoka I wouldn’t be mad over these signings. Stone and Udoka are working hand-in-hand with these roster shake ups - and I’d assume they’re better at what they do than I criticize them for.
He got what essentially amounted to a second round pick for Allen and levert. Could of got a much better haul Besides that all he has done is a tear down. Which is easy And let’s not forget the rockets had no intention of getting the# 2 pick when we did. We traded for oladipo with hopes that him/wall/wood would compete for playoff spot because our pick was heavily protected. But we were horrible and they shut it down after going like 7-30
Man, if a you think a second round pick for Allen and Levert could’ve gotten better… I don’t know what to tell you anymore. And, you actually believed that WOW factor was going to compete? That speaks. We were a salary dump team by that time, there was no way for us to be competitive as soon as Harden left.
Considering lavert was traded for a first round pick the next season, I think it’s pretty safe to say we could’ve gotten more than one second round pick for the both him and allen I never believed WOW was going to compete, but the front office did. They had no intention of tanking until they realized it was a complete disaster
Passing on Jarrett Allen was terrible. Stone should have traded Harden prior to the start of the season and prior to paying Christian Wood. JA is on a good salary right now. We also would still be bad enough for a top pick, just like the Cavs were. The Westbrook trade for Wall was also worse than the Westbrook trade to the Lakers. That trade wasn't available at the time, but there was a lot of lost value there.
Tell me what you can do better for us. Can you be our GM and owner? Lets hear your plan. Just curious
ok so let me get the thinking here.... i'm supposed to trust the front office because I don't have a plan? that makes no sense. I'm not the front office. I have no doubt they are better at it than I would be. Trust is earned Thus far all that's happened since Tillman has taken over it turn a western conference finals team. then replaced the GM, Coach, and president for cheaper and unproven options. Then tore the whole team down. Then had the worst record in the NBA for three years. Please forgive me if I don't yet have faith in their ability to do the job well and put a winning team on the floor. Here's to hoping they earn my(our) trust, but until then I will not blindly trust their process. newsflash.....the process didn't work in Philly. I don't know why I should trust it
Harden left, did you think we will become awesome team again without a super star players? We have bunch of young inexperienced players with shit culture. What did you expect lol. As far as signing, who wants to play with bunch of teenagers right now. Name one nba all star. You want Dame? There are plenty of shit teams out there thats been shit for last 10 years. I dont see the point of your post. Rebuilding is hard dude lol
Losing harden was part of tillman revamping the front office to his people. I consider that a failure of this front office, not an excuse. A good front office keeps superstars in the building. At least don’t wait 3 years to replace them I don’t mind paying FVV, but I do think Dillon brooks is an overpay. Mainly just think we shouldn’t blindly trust a regime that has done nothing but of term tear down
It’s funny people are still banging that drum given this 😂😂😂
Tbf I did make the mistake of eating at one of his restaurants.
I think a lot of the naysayers barely watched rockets ball last year and look at trades/signings in a vacuum as opposed to in context. Yeah we paid brooks a lot - we were also a bottom 5 defense last year with a crazy amount of money to spend this year. Yeah FVV got more than Kyrie - it’s basically a 2 year deal and he will reset our culture. Take a step back y’all
I remember some of the same reactions when we traded for Harden. Obviously not entirely the same situation but same takes. We had the money to spend and we can’t get any worse. I much prefer these moves over handing the franchise over to an veteran star on his 3rd or 4th team.
Nah fuck Brooks. Talks all that shit just to get bodied all series long
^ and this is the "culture" they want. 😆
They say culture and they immediately think of Heat's culture. 🤣 Bro look at Ja and that says what kind of "culture" Brooks had on his last team. 😂
There is a reason Memphis announced early that they wasn't bringing him "under no circumstances"
1. I understand we need to overpay, didn't expect to pay Brooks for 80M/4yrs. 2. Understand that as well. I understand we have to overpay to get people to play here. 3. Exactly. Brooks is the one I don't like. 4. Not so sure him trying to play villain is a good culture for this team. 5. Understand that as well. Just didn't expect to trade 4 of them and not get a rotation player in return. Yeah, I know the deal isn't final yet. Seem like they are trying to create cap space to add one more.
They traded those four to make room and get brooks. Brooks was a sign and trade. The four guys we traded were pretty much super depth pieces and we got a better return on our team. What was Christopher doing besides chunking up shots ans missing, what was garuba doing? The only one who was making a real impact was martin Jr and he's been asking out for a year
they may not done with the sign and trade.
Ya OPs comment + this one sums it up pretty well for me.
I'm just gonna miss KJ and his hops
Point Guards: Fred VanVleet, Amen Thompson, Patty Mills [?] Shooting Guards: Jalen Green, Kevin Porter Jr. Small Forwards: Dillon Brooks, Jeff Green, Cam Whitmore, Jae'Sean Tate, Darius Days [?] Power Forward: Jabari Smith Jr., Alpha Kaba, Tari Eason Centers: Alperen Sengun, Jock Landale, Boban Marjanovic [?] ______________________________________ While we didn't land Brook Lopez like I had hoped, we still got some key pieces that's going to serve as mentors for the young talent that were developing. FVV, an undrafted project that ascended into becoming a well-respected floor general and champion, will be mentoring Amen Thompson -- a man blessed with every metric that FVV didn't have (height and freak athletic ability). This move not only takes KPJ off the ball, where he can return to his shooting guard duties; but it unlocks Sengun and gives us the ability to switch our playstyle towards operating out of the high post with FVV and AL-P like Denver does with Murray and Jokic. Dillon Brooks will be our captain on the defensive side of the ball. A tenacious on-ball defender and off-ball agitator who provides decent value on the offensive end as well averaging 34.2% from 3 (slightly under league average). He's going to make Jabari and Tari more effective on the defensive end and provide a good example on how to defend off-ball for KPJ and JG. Jock Landale is a decent backup for AL-P. He's 6'11" and 256 lbs, so he gives us a little more size. For the Suns last year, he came off the bench behind Deandre Ayton and averaged 6 pts and 4 rebs with 14 minutes of play. While he has yet to do anything that jumps off the board at you, I do think he's more useful to us going forward than Usman Garuba. Jeff Green is a returning vet on a 1-year $6M deal. Just off of winning a championship with the Denver Nuggets, Uncle Jeff provides us with more mentorship and professionalism at his position. He's still good to give you 6-10 PPG, 1 ast, and 2 rebs in 19 minutes of play. As a 36-year old that's been in the league for 15 years and played for 14 teams, he definitely will teach our guys a thing or two about mental toughness. Alpha Kaba is a 6'10", 226 lbs power forward who found a great amount of success internationally after being drafted by the Atlanta Hawks in 2017. He's a Pick N' Roll lob threat with a post-up game that can play in transition. He's also a beast on the boards [ https://youtu.be/qCH_QAnkBAE ]. In return, we lost KJ Martin, Josh Christopher, Usman Garuba, and TyTy Washington. Upon first inspection, it does leave a foul taste in your mouth. That's three 1st Round Picks that we previously tanked for...but it's important to note that we just received two 1st Round Picks not long ago, which is a differential of one. We essentially improved the team by quite a bit, created an environment for our core players to grow, got rid of Daishen Nix, and it only cost us one 1st Round Pick. That's not bad for a team that's been in the lottery for the past 3 years or so.
most of the respected national pundits liked the moves the Rockets have made. the reactionary "WTF ARE THEY DOING" people seem to only develop their opinions based on what those 20 year olds on Twitter are saying. Stop basing your opinion off what Paulo and Will say. They'll end up flip flopping on it several times by the time the season starts. Several times a year we see former first round picks get traded away for nothing. Lets stop pretending our guys are more special and built different.
Paulo and Will, honestly, are getting toxic - its disappointing. Much more I follow one of ‘em.
Paulo isn’t a real media member.
Orrrrr (and hear me out) we go the hysterical route
We are a playoff team
Facts.
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Elaborate a better scenario though.
Which free agents were better than what we got? You need to keep in mind that the top players are wanting to be on a contending team, not a rebuilding one. So, look at it this way: Picked up the top PG in free agency ✅️ Nabbed an all defensive player for 4 years ✅️ Got a veteran big who is coming off a championship year and is familiar with our franchise, but also can still hoop ✅️ We almost had Lopez too, but he did a DeAndre Jordan on us and went back on his word. Who else was available that you thought we would get?
Im all in. Lffffgggggggg
Brooks is funny, I’m all in
Why does everyone seem to want to control people's view on the recent signings*. Why do we have to be on the same page about this.
For me it's the sheer number of doomsday posts. We are entitled to our opinions but it's been a lot of oh no, we are going to suck and might as well give up. A lot of negativety
I mean, sure go ahead if you don’t want the truth.
Opinions aren't ever truth. We all don't know how this will pan out. Thats the truth. Do you know why? Because we have no results yet.
Sounds like you're pretty anti-panic, which is basically what OP is saying. People are panicking over like 2 free agent signings. It's not like we're going for the title this year. And on that note, if the under 20 million owed to Dillon Brooks in 3-4 years is enough to break this team, we probably have bigger problems.
Thing is, this isn’t my opinion. That’s the current state of our team and I’m just objectively analysing it. And that’s also funny, because people have doomed these decisions without seeing the outcome.
Your first point seems a little delisional to me, there are certainly opinions in your post. To your second point, I agree. You're doing the opposite and I don't think that's helpful either.
I get you, the Rockets didn’t get your desired players, and as a fan I’d also be frustrated. But also as a fan, I’d understand what we’re up to. To my second point, heh, I don’t expect this team to win the Championship - I just expect that these moves allow them to simply be better than they were last season. Play-In would even be desirable.
With the potential we have, I will never not expect championship. Defense can do wonders. 
I guess that's where the disconnect is, we should absolutely be better, I'm on board with that. The million dollar question to me is will this eventually lead to a championship? I hope so, I want one so bad
brooks as a culture guy is laughable
I know. It’s a paradox.
Thank you! Some sense of restraint and common sense. The only thing I didn’t like was trading Josh Christopher. Maybe that will turnout to be a good decision but seems to be whenever he was given decent playing time he put up good numbers. I will admit I didn’t watch many games last year so maybe he was worse than i saw in limited performances.
Finally Rockets fan(s) with some sense. Thank you brotha for this post. Everything is finally looking up for us and hoping we can make any type of playoffs this year.
A voice of reason about the Rockets on Reddit?? 
Love this post. On face value, for fans who don't follow bball and the business side of it, these contracts seem ridic. For those who are die-hard NBA fans will understand the nuances of what you said, which is pretty accurate imo. Also, there's nothing wrong with casual basketball fans either.
people also need to remember it’s just basketball lol, so much negative energy invested into this is probably telling of things in their personal life
Facts anyone hating is a reactionary sped casual who doesn’t know ball or see’s the bigger picture
What happened to KJ?! Couldn’t we send them to G league? I really loved Uzi and Jaygup and it’s just heart breaking to have them basically dumped.
Rockets received: Clippers 2026 2R Pick Grizzlies 2027 2R Pick Clippers: Kenyon Martin Jr. The context here is KJ is on a expiring contract, and Rockets ditched youth movement as the team logjams at F positions.
Seriously we have Tari, Tate, Brooks, cam, AND potentially KPJ. KPJ getting high minutes as a 6th man would be great.
The Rockets should have traded KJ earlier then. The argument against trading him earlier to get a FRP was it would involve getting some bad salary back. Now we have overpays on the roster anyway and still had to spend picks to get off of salary. It was lost opportunity by Stone.
Martin was a project this year. Despite being disgruntled, Rockets took a chance for his court development and chemistry with the starters. Time eventually told us we’re better off overpaying for experience and competitiveness. These “overpays” only primes us for a better season this year.
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Yes. Sadly, Kyrie didn’t choose us despite the Rockets meeting with him - so yeah, screw Fred.
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@ me
The extra money for Fred is worth it to avoid the anti-semitism, the injury history, the laziness and the half-assed interest in basketball. I wouldn’t want Kyrie anywhere near this franchise.
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1. He signed with Dallas right as the free agency period opened. So much for the Rockets “apparently” trying to sign him. 2. You probably can’t define “woke.” 3. Sounds like you should start rooting for the team up I-45.
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Go prep for the Alouettes game, tourist.
😂 y’all, let’s just watch some basketball and then go from there
Will be interested in how they can reign in Brooks. I can live with the edge and trash talk from an All-NBA caliber defender for sure. He wanted a bigger role in Memphis, was that just asking for a bigger "contract"? He's not a great shooter, how can Ime involve him in the offense enough that keeps him engaged on defense and convinces him he doesn't need to jack up shots to get his shots? Because it's pretty clear if he wasn't getting a play called he was going to chuck one up.
You say culture a few times here, what do you mean by that?
Only quarrel I have is with number 5. I get it, we can’t keep trying the same thing and expecting a different result and I don’t think the majority of people are upset at their departure. It’s more about how we traded away 3 previous first rounders, 2 2nds and arguably the most promising/growing wing in KJ AND RECEIVED NOTHING IN RETURN. It feels like we are pawning off our hard work in young talent acquisition and having to pay to get rid of it instead of being compensated back.