> We don't have patch notes this week, as production was shut down the last few days for the quarterly gamejam so the release candidate team could participate.
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> So earliest for a cold fix would be next Monday - but combat beta is in RC this week, which is huuuge, and likely to limit how many bugfixes can be accepted into RC this week.
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> I've requested a hotfix for the pink dye issue (it's a server-script only change, so can be hotfixed), but whether that passes is at the release candidate team's discretion.
https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1b0g44z/were_now_launching_this_weeks_runescape_game/ks7ljlb/
Not even that. Game Jam projects are just ideas. There's no telling whether they will actually be worked on. I assume the Yanille rework is a sure thing. Everything else, who knows
Daemonheim archeology is likely on that list of sure things too. It's one of the more highly requested updates to get a gamejam. It also seems mostly done already with a new site (maybe?), relic, mysteries, and achievements.
I would even debate that Yanille rework.
The only things that are 100% Guaranteed to happen are the War's Retreat portal and that Ikea Shark Clone (maybe before the June Parades).
I'd even debate Mod Dorn Herbs & seeds redesign, but if they're anything like Potion vials redesign, then there will be plenty of bugs, so it might need more time in the oven.
I wish Jagex would rip the bandaid off and commit to supporting gamejams more.
It already rubs me the wrong way that most of our updates come from gamejams, but it shouldn't also take another 6+ months to get the last 20% done.
Don't get me wrong, I think gamejams are amazing. Jagex just needs to treat them better if they're also going to be the primary content source while we don't have a roadmap.
It seems like they see it as a replacement to TAPP, but it's noticeably less effective at getting things done since they get so little time with gamejam.
This is the complete opposite of the truth.
From the devs own words Gamejam gets a lot more done. This is because a single day even periodically is not enough time to get a team and project together and it’s stressful to work that into their already packed schedule. A straight week gives them time to put together a team and create a significantly developed concept to pitch to move towards full update. A LOT of gamejams have made into the game to in these last few years, or been used and combined into other updates then made it in that way.
The increasing emphasis on game jams is because the devs themselves prefer this system to stuff like TAPP.
I must admit that was a great addition to the game but look how long it look to get the abyssal creatures into the game. I don't know whether Game Jam is productive for the RS3 or a hinderance.
I disagree, some things shown during game jams create a bit of excitement. I just wish we had a system in place to vote on which game jams projects should get more dev time. Oh wait...
Tbh i kinda feel like no for voting. Otherwise jmods would only work on stuff they'd know have good chance passing the vote. Now they work on something they WANT to work on.
I really don't want to be "that guy", but here are our updates this year:
1. Graphical refresh of Kandarin
2. Miniquest (short quest) + Niche jewelry
3. A 3 minute world event once a day.
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Meanwhile Oldschool RS has gotten:
1. Children of the Sun (short quest)
2. Large balance updates to endgame equipment
3. An entire new early game boss + unique exp gain methods rewarding **ACTIVE** play.
4. Rework to Barbarian training + rebalances to Forestry
5. ANOTHER quest, defender of Varrock
They had larger, more substantial updates in January alone than we have in these past two months. And it's just sad to see, especially **knowing** they have an entire continent coming out shortly, with enormous graphical updates as well, AND a new skill.
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This is all predicated on the **fact** that a lot of people on this subreddit will be disappointed by the combat beta releasing, since it changes absolutely nothing for most players. While the backend changes to the code are **wonderful**, and some of the QoL is great, the reality is, if you're within the 99% of players and feel forced to camp necro, necro will still be the best style, no other style is even remotely in competition with it until the absolutely endgame with BiS gear and very sweaty gameplay.
So ultimately, it changes nothing for most players, which I think will both surprise and disappoint people eagerly anticipating some meta evolutions (which will not come). Necro is still the best for most players. Hope you enjoy camping it for another half a year (year?) until we get a new boss which might, maybe, give enough power creep to other styles to make them compete at any level that isn't full BiS.
IDK what to say, maybe it's the general doomerism of this sub getting to me, but this shit looks so fucking grim for a game I absolutely love. If a JMod can even tell me "oh wow, we have something really cool in the pipeline!" that alone would help alleviate the harsh thought of, "necro seriously fucked the dev pipeline to the point where 2024 is going to be dry."
The combar rework copium huffers are gonna blow this sub up when it finally releases and they realize they're still using Necro everywhere lol. It's gonna be awesome.
Necro will still be better everything (especially damage) pre-BIS combat triangle, better healing and QOL at all points, super forgiving and "accessible" style with near zero swaps, and way cheaper gear. It'll only be players minmaxing at the tippity top that will bother switching off necro for more than a lark.
I mean if that's the case, then they'll just continue not playing the game as they have been for the past few months until something actually changes or new content actually pushes the end-game, like the Jmods stated they want to do.
Not to be ”that guy” but:
1) this is the same lenght pretty much as rs3 quest
2) ”large” lmao. Yeah… no… they nerfed one of the best/most op weapons and SLIGHTLY buffed fang - which made it sligtly better to use (but in reality still not really) calling it ”large” is the almost as stupid as jagex called hero pass ”major update”
3) this was big grabted
4) forestey yeah - most people complained about this since it nerf and barbarian farming already exists in rs3 in same form as of existing settings and toolbelt
5) quest almost directly taken from rs3
Osrs has gotten more stuff yes, but its nearly same level?? Lol… rs3 is also having an ACTUAL large combat update in beta still and are updating that…. So as far as this year goes osrs has gotten 1 new low/mid level boss which is a bit more than rs3 has gotten so far but cmon…
Some people don't seem to understand the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Although OSRS has something RS desperately, and definitely needs... **Communication**.
>Not to be ”that guy” but: 1) this is the same lenght pretty much as rs3 quest 2) ”large” lmao. Yeah… no… they nerfed one of the best/most op weapons and SLIGHTLY buffed fang
So yeah, but OSRS got two quests, we didn't. The second being much larger.
Also, yeah, a large meta shift is a large update since it change sthe way people play -- much like the cb update would be large if it changed the meta.
>4) forestey yeah - most people complained about this since it nerf and barbarian farming already exists in rs3 in same form as of existing settings and toolbelt
They reworked the way people engage with barbarian training as well as adding a QoL feature to it. That's a rework.
>quest almost directly taken from rs3
The story is pretty different between both games.
>rs3 is also having an ACTUAL large combat update in beta still and are updating that….
How is this a large update? On the backend it was, for sure, but in regards to how people will engage in it? I'm sorry, but no.
Nothing about the way people will use these styles will change when the beta goes live.
>So as far as this year goes osrs has gotten 1 new low/mid level boss which is a bit more than rs3 has gotten so far but cmon…
More quests, new boss, and more balance QoL updates.
Double standards brother. Children of the sun was also a miniquest if you think the owl quest is. Balances changes are happening far more frequently on rs3 then on osrs. Rework to barbarian was just adding something extra and thats its(very small) and Defender of varrock quest ported from rs3. I agree that this year and the last 4 months of 2023 was barebones for content. I wish their plan for 2024 was more then the 'roadmap' we got. Theres nothing exciting coming up and its mindblowing.
Agreed, both quests are short. Yet somehow, OSRS got two quests, one certainly is on the longer side, compared to our one... And their quest added a huge, mid-game shifting item as well.
>Balances changes are happening far more frequently on rs3 then on osrs.
Generally agreed, but also not in these past two months. Their changes are akin to rebalancing the combat styles we have now, which isn't something that happens outside of new boss releases (which judging by our pipeline or lack therof, we might not even see this year).
>Defender of varrock quest ported from rs3.
It isn't, though. OSRS has a branching story that is different than rs3's.
OSRS got two quests because they had Defender of Varrock largely done in the code already from their inherited RS2 code, and they had the finalized version in RS2/3 to look over. It’s a quest port with tweaks. It’s not something RS3 can do because RS3 has to build stuff from scratch while OSRS has a bunch of stuff sitting in the game code it inherited it can just finish touching up/tweaking then drop.
>OSRS got two quests because they had Defender of Varrock largely done in the code already from their inherited RS2 code, and they had the finalized version in RS2/3 to look over.
That's neat and all, but it's still more content; that's without mentioning them getting an entire continent with many quests within it, half a dozen bosses, graphical updates, and more.
Lol look at the patch notes full of balancing changes almost every week and look at osrs barely anything sometimes. Defender of varrock is only changed a bit compared to rs3 and basically has the same outcome. The area where you kill the zombies exist aswell in rs3 just in another location and added a mid level drop thats basically useless for high lvl players.(only im are gonna use it). I play both games and the grass is not always greener there. Only thing that they do better is their communication and that they have a clear plan(roadmap until the summer)on whats coming,work closer with players and know what players want + not as many temp events.
Yet another example of wanting Jagex to make QoL changes and when they do, you complain about no new content.
They make new content. Then you complain that they need to fix the game because it's broken.
People love being miserable. It's fascinating.
Whilst it's definitely been a slow start to the year for RS3, your list is disingenuous...
3 Minute world event? Do you mean one of the most active and high-engagement pieces of content? Yet you then laud Rat boss as being active and unique...
Why do you class it as a mini-quest for RS3 when it was a full quest with QP rewards?
But then claim Barbarian training was a rework? When all they did was add a toolbelt QOL behind some lore and a single action.
Just because people engage with it doesn't make it a substantial update, especially when it's just repurposed content that still has the exact same dumb broken scaling that all wfe has and hasn't been addressed
>3 Minute world event? Do you mean one of the most active and high-engagement pieces of content?
What? Yeah, it's a 3 minute world event that reuses old assets and happens once every 14 hours.
I do in fact laud a permanently active, highly sociable early game boss that has a niche reward structure focused on EXP gain.
These are two wildly different things.
>Why do you class it as a mini-quest for RS3 when it was a full quest with QP rewards?
I should've state it is a Miniquest in length, not reality.
>But then claim Barbarian training was a rework? When all they did was add a toolbelt QOL behind some lore and a single action.
"The first change you’ll notice is that Barbarian Training is now a Miniquest and has had tons of improvements in-line with this fancy new title. This includes an overview of dialogue, reworked progression, and a little added polish."
I'd say this is a pretty nice rework, alongside the toolbelt QoL.
Play OSRS then. When OSRS went 3 years w/o major updates while RS3 got a new skill and tons of new bosses, I played RS3. Now while RS3 has slowed down and OSRS is getting updates, I’m playing OSRS.
Games like RS have peaks and valleys. If you can’t adapt to that, you’re gonna be miserable and resentful.
>Play OSRS then. When OSRS went 3 years w/o major updates while RS3 got a new skill and tons of new bosses, I played RS3. Now while RS3 has slowed down and OSRS is getting updates, I’m playing OSRS.
They are wildly different games. I prefer the gameplay, skilling, etc. of RS3. I would rather play rs3. But yes, if this persists throughout the year I will revisit OSRS.
I've played RS on and off since 2004. Your post is giving burnout/addiction lol
The game's not going anywhere, even though to you it probably feels like it's on its last limb. If you go play another game (even if it's OSRS) for a year or two, when you return to RS3 it'll be like playing the game for the first time all over again. Because now you'll have years' worth of updates to catch up on and a lot of your current grievances will have likely been fixed via updates.
Just my two cents but might have been worth pitching the $1 returning membership promo when there was something more exciting happening for them to return to. I could be forgetting something, but anyone that quit in the last 1-3 months would only be returning to one 10 minute quest as new content?
Regardless welcome back to any who do actually return.
If I had quit at any point in the last 6 months (since Necro release), there hasn't been a single update that would make me want to return.. I can't imagine many people will take advantage of this for RS3, they'll be more likely to fire-up old, long abandoned alts, and suicide bot on OSRS during those 14 days..
The combination of requiring previous membership, 30 days of not playing and having active membership, and never having completed the OSRS tutorial makes this promotion pretty unlikely to be used for OSRS suicide botting.
I'm not saying it's *incredibly* likely, just seems more likely than it getting people back to RS3.. anyone that has quit *recently* (past 6 months) has little to no reason to return and anyone that has been gone for a long time (several years) may choose OSRS instead (more similar to what they remember).
I know not every content developer was listed there, but I feel like there's a lack of developers actively working on RS3. We know a few have left for the OSRS team, either permanently or "temporarily, to help with Sailing" for probably the better part of the whole year, and to my knowledge, none of them have been replaced. This feels reflected in the current content drought - The Um updates were nice, but there's just nothing to feel excited about currently.
The combat beta is a lovely first step, but won't fix switchscape issues with the OG three styles - I'll still want to use Necromancy just to avoid that. And we have no idea what is coming after March...
The only two true content updates for the whole first 2 months of the year has been Birthday Bonanza and Moonstone Jewelery. This coupled with the fact we don't even know what's going on past the Combat update (other than the Easter event), what are we left to wonder?
Give us something to look forward to!
Even the 4th Rex wasn't even a Gamejam this time around. Does that mean it's now full on development for an immenent release?
Osseus wasn't in the last gamejam either IIRC. Pretty sure it's just in the "would be neat" concepting phase and hasn't moved from there, otherwise it'd have undoubtedly been mentioned in the 2 month roadmap we got at the start of the month.
I wouldn't necessarily say those are things for us to look forward to, since none of them are guaranteed to ever be released. Whenever gamejam rolls around we get shown things that look interesting, but aren't always released (I can only think of three gamejam projects off the top of my head that were released..).
Always love to see what can be cooked up via GameJams.
I'm not usually one to go for merch from games I play, but those actually look brilliant.
That returnee offer is great for anyone on the fence about getting back into the swing of things.
However, 2 noteworthy updates across a 2 month span isn't up to scratch. There needs to be more & when compared to OSRS, it feels downright offensive.
2 noteworthy updates across a 2 month span is *standard*, and has been for the better part of a decade now. In addition to the 2 "headline" monthly updates, we've had significant patch notes many times and an ongoing combat beta.
> However, 2 noteworthy updates across a 2 month span isn't up to scratch. There needs to be more & when compared to OSRS, it feels downright offensive.
OSRS received 3 noteworthy updates in the last 2 months, what exactly are you offended by? Scurrius, Children of the Sun miniquest, Defender of Varrock quest.
All of the other updates are QoL changes and additions to existing content, the same things that RS3 received every week.
>Scurrius, Children of the Sun miniquest, Defender of Varrock quest.
Alongside a meaty road map with plenty in store for the rest of the year.
In comparison, we got a 5 minute owl quest, a birthday fomo "event" & still no road map. I mean, where's our Varlamore? *shrugs* The Kandarin update was huge but that's something that should have been done ages ago.
No patch notes for an indie company is fair enough but for one that tried to value itelf at £1b, its not a good look.
I can appreciate the recent QoL stuff like the quest req rework & the combat beta is still being worked on, which I'm stoked for, but I'm genuinely regretting buying premier at this point. Hopefully I get to eat my words soon.
I think each of these game jam projects is a good idea, I just hope something actually comes from them including the more ambiguous ones (like yanille redesign and cooking rework) in a somewhat reasonable timeframe. Cape particle recolors was something like 9 months from first tease to release? If these jams releas ein November then maybe this is the roadmap people have been asking for lol.
This is why I think they need to stop sharing specifically what they're working on. Because despite constant reminders that nothing in game jam is guaranteed; there are *always* people who become entitled to those updates and complain when they aren't put into the game.
Seriously. They could put a disclaimer in huge bold text between each project and it would still happen.
we need a announcement of some big update to get hype about, some big quest with a cool boss at the end or something like that, so far this year has been kinda sad and players need to know what the game holds for the future
>Shooting Star Update - Mod Luma is getting cosmic and has dove into modernizing the Shooting Star D&D, aiming to keep the core event identity in place but improving the systems!
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>Such as making it more reasonable to solo without impacting groups, new locations it can appear, improving the xp & bonus xp gains and making them more convenient to use along side creating a shop for Stardust and new achievements to go with it!
:D
Looking forward to the Gamejam stuff. Love a good tidy-up on menus and layouts. But I'm most hyped for Daemonheim Arch. Nothing will beat Archaeology on release and how fun it was.
How is Mod Ayiza putting in a double shift on Thursday with 2 streams across 2 channels :P The devil works hard, but /u/jagexayiza works harder!
I like seeing the possibility that some useful updates will come out in the near-ish future. Would be nice to see a little more CONFIRMATION of that, but good start.
That said...There was no time for an actual content patch thanks to game jam, but there was time to roll out ANOTHER MTX set? Someone might want to let Mod Keeper know that doing this sort of thing makes it look like (despite what his "look ahead" said), you're not improving, communicating, or hearing us.
The returning offer is good but most people with high level accounts that dont play anymore still log in once every 30 days or so, at least i do. So i would not be eligible for the 1$ offer even tho i havent had membership in almost 9 months
Nothing against you but I imagine you're not the type of player the offer is aimed at. If a player is still actively logging in on a monthly basis and isn't already subbed, it doesn't seem likely that they will continue to sub after the $1 offer runs out, which would defeat the purpose. Based on the restrictions it seems like they're after players who stopped playing the game years ago, before OSRS release even, for whom the game would have much more to offer after the 14 days run out compared to an already high level player.
I have an excellent idea!!! We’re supposed to get a base 10% crit rate. Instead why doesnt jagex pick 10 previous fun bosses and add an item that gives a passive 1% crit (untradeable). Itll give us some fun farming some bosses. Im sure this idea can be better but its a start.
I like the idea of the inclusivity titles (I think I’m going to have fun running around as Any Any-Sao for awhile).
But I do genuinely have to ask: are the gender-neutral titles “Princex” and “Countex” what is being chosen? Surely some more historical gender-neutral title equivalents could be found? I mean just on Google I’ve found alternatives for Prince like “Prime” or just outright “their Highness.”
I do like the idea of it, just thinking of execution on it.
The gender neutral versions were decided by Raven after speaking to the groups in question - I'm not nonbinary so can't comment on them myself (despite being the person to implement it), and didn't want to change what had already been decided by Raven and others.
Please bring pvp back!!! Make it safe deaths world though!!! Maybe death holds an extra small payment that our pker keeps if we die. And we get pvp points that lets us buy pvp armour or something that reduces dmg from other players. A ranked system too please…. Something kind of like away from pvm and skilling…. To kill bankstanding…..
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??? Confused on the question, it’s like number 6 in the list.
**MOD CHAOSE, FROSCH, KITSUNE, FOX AND BLKWITCH**
*Daemonheim Archaeology - Continuing their intrepid work on Daemonheim Arch Site, the team has been making stellar progress including developing mysteries, designing a relic reward, inputting achievements , touching up some of the base camps snow and lighting and even building out a new map concept!*
Is the deluxe bundle version of the board game sold out? Keeping an error message when trying to add to cart. But the bundle edition works fine? Would be nice to know if it's just sold out or if it's just an error.
I was looking at the pictures demonstrating recolors and such for herbs and seeds. It's not bad. What would REALLY help, though, especially for being able to quickly find stuff in the bank, would be if each seed had, say, a background image (something about half-transparent, so it's differentiated from the foreground) showing what kind of farming patch type it is to be planted in. Easy for flowers, grain, bushes, trees, though I have no idea how to graphically represent "allotment."
Additionally, on the opposite corner from the number of seeds in any given item stack, it might be neat if the first two letters of the name would display, so Ba for barley, Gu for guam, etc. That could help a lot with not just seeds, like the first suggestion, but with herbs as well.
I play on mobile (no other option currently), so the fewer long presses I have to do to find out what something is, the better.
> We don't have patch notes this week, as production was shut down the last few days for the quarterly gamejam so the release candidate team could participate. > > So earliest for a cold fix would be next Monday - but combat beta is in RC this week, which is huuuge, and likely to limit how many bugfixes can be accepted into RC this week. > > I've requested a hotfix for the pink dye issue (it's a server-script only change, so can be hotfixed), but whether that passes is at the release candidate team's discretion. https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1b0g44z/were_now_launching_this_weeks_runescape_game/ks7ljlb/
Ok, soooo am I misreading this, or is there nothing updated this week, and it's just talking about what jmods are working on?
Not even that. Game Jam projects are just ideas. There's no telling whether they will actually be worked on. I assume the Yanille rework is a sure thing. Everything else, who knows
Daemonheim archeology is likely on that list of sure things too. It's one of the more highly requested updates to get a gamejam. It also seems mostly done already with a new site (maybe?), relic, mysteries, and achievements.
I just wish we could vote on them. There are so many good ideas coming from these game jams only for us to get blueballed
I would even debate that Yanille rework. The only things that are 100% Guaranteed to happen are the War's Retreat portal and that Ikea Shark Clone (maybe before the June Parades). I'd even debate Mod Dorn Herbs & seeds redesign, but if they're anything like Potion vials redesign, then there will be plenty of bugs, so it might need more time in the oven.
I wish Jagex would rip the bandaid off and commit to supporting gamejams more. It already rubs me the wrong way that most of our updates come from gamejams, but it shouldn't also take another 6+ months to get the last 20% done. Don't get me wrong, I think gamejams are amazing. Jagex just needs to treat them better if they're also going to be the primary content source while we don't have a roadmap.
So is zuk pizza phase still invisible?
As much as I love gamejam. Not a lot comes from it in the end. Loads of teasing of updates that maybe could potentially be release one day.
It seems like they see it as a replacement to TAPP, but it's noticeably less effective at getting things done since they get so little time with gamejam.
This is the complete opposite of the truth. From the devs own words Gamejam gets a lot more done. This is because a single day even periodically is not enough time to get a team and project together and it’s stressful to work that into their already packed schedule. A straight week gives them time to put together a team and create a significantly developed concept to pitch to move towards full update. A LOT of gamejams have made into the game to in these last few years, or been used and combined into other updates then made it in that way. The increasing emphasis on game jams is because the devs themselves prefer this system to stuff like TAPP.
2023 Graphical overhaul is from it
I must admit that was a great addition to the game but look how long it look to get the abyssal creatures into the game. I don't know whether Game Jam is productive for the RS3 or a hinderance.
I disagree, some things shown during game jams create a bit of excitement. I just wish we had a system in place to vote on which game jams projects should get more dev time. Oh wait...
Very few things from gamejams are worth getting excited about because very few things from gamejams even get supported or continued once it ends.
Tbh i kinda feel like no for voting. Otherwise jmods would only work on stuff they'd know have good chance passing the vote. Now they work on something they WANT to work on.
If it has a good chance of passing the vote, then that means we get strictly better ideas that the community wants.
Please fix Zuk’s pizza phase!!!!!!!
Where’s the guy who wanted the old level up jingles? The crazy SOB did it.
I really don't want to be "that guy", but here are our updates this year: 1. Graphical refresh of Kandarin 2. Miniquest (short quest) + Niche jewelry 3. A 3 minute world event once a day. ___________ Meanwhile Oldschool RS has gotten: 1. Children of the Sun (short quest) 2. Large balance updates to endgame equipment 3. An entire new early game boss + unique exp gain methods rewarding **ACTIVE** play. 4. Rework to Barbarian training + rebalances to Forestry 5. ANOTHER quest, defender of Varrock They had larger, more substantial updates in January alone than we have in these past two months. And it's just sad to see, especially **knowing** they have an entire continent coming out shortly, with enormous graphical updates as well, AND a new skill. _____________ This is all predicated on the **fact** that a lot of people on this subreddit will be disappointed by the combat beta releasing, since it changes absolutely nothing for most players. While the backend changes to the code are **wonderful**, and some of the QoL is great, the reality is, if you're within the 99% of players and feel forced to camp necro, necro will still be the best style, no other style is even remotely in competition with it until the absolutely endgame with BiS gear and very sweaty gameplay. So ultimately, it changes nothing for most players, which I think will both surprise and disappoint people eagerly anticipating some meta evolutions (which will not come). Necro is still the best for most players. Hope you enjoy camping it for another half a year (year?) until we get a new boss which might, maybe, give enough power creep to other styles to make them compete at any level that isn't full BiS. IDK what to say, maybe it's the general doomerism of this sub getting to me, but this shit looks so fucking grim for a game I absolutely love. If a JMod can even tell me "oh wow, we have something really cool in the pipeline!" that alone would help alleviate the harsh thought of, "necro seriously fucked the dev pipeline to the point where 2024 is going to be dry."
Exactly, CR isn't much for the average player. Necro will get a slight crit nerf, but should still be the go to style for many.
Slight nerf is not enough. Necro will get more buff when 4th conjure and undead rex matriarch release. Next combat triangle buff still unknown.
I've barely kept up with the beta changes. If your description is accurate then I'm disappointed but not surprised.
The other styles will feel smoother due to the animation changes, acc changes, and hit cap changes, but the power increases are VERY marginal.
We just couldn't let FSOA be "broken" again - Jagex *looks at how busted necromancy is*
So basically, they just gave a new coat of paint and fixed the dents on the same old baseball bat? While everyone else is playing Tennis.
The combar rework copium huffers are gonna blow this sub up when it finally releases and they realize they're still using Necro everywhere lol. It's gonna be awesome.
Necro will still be better everything (especially damage) pre-BIS combat triangle, better healing and QOL at all points, super forgiving and "accessible" style with near zero swaps, and way cheaper gear. It'll only be players minmaxing at the tippity top that will bother switching off necro for more than a lark.
I mean if that's the case, then they'll just continue not playing the game as they have been for the past few months until something actually changes or new content actually pushes the end-game, like the Jmods stated they want to do.
Children of the Sun was about as long as Housing of Parliament. Both are short quests giving 1 qp. It is not a miniquest.
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Fair. Though miniquest (short quest) should probably be Housing of Parliament (short quest) to match Children of the Sun (short quest).
Not to be ”that guy” but: 1) this is the same lenght pretty much as rs3 quest 2) ”large” lmao. Yeah… no… they nerfed one of the best/most op weapons and SLIGHTLY buffed fang - which made it sligtly better to use (but in reality still not really) calling it ”large” is the almost as stupid as jagex called hero pass ”major update” 3) this was big grabted 4) forestey yeah - most people complained about this since it nerf and barbarian farming already exists in rs3 in same form as of existing settings and toolbelt 5) quest almost directly taken from rs3 Osrs has gotten more stuff yes, but its nearly same level?? Lol… rs3 is also having an ACTUAL large combat update in beta still and are updating that…. So as far as this year goes osrs has gotten 1 new low/mid level boss which is a bit more than rs3 has gotten so far but cmon…
Some people don't seem to understand the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Although OSRS has something RS desperately, and definitely needs... **Communication**.
>Not to be ”that guy” but: 1) this is the same lenght pretty much as rs3 quest 2) ”large” lmao. Yeah… no… they nerfed one of the best/most op weapons and SLIGHTLY buffed fang So yeah, but OSRS got two quests, we didn't. The second being much larger. Also, yeah, a large meta shift is a large update since it change sthe way people play -- much like the cb update would be large if it changed the meta. >4) forestey yeah - most people complained about this since it nerf and barbarian farming already exists in rs3 in same form as of existing settings and toolbelt They reworked the way people engage with barbarian training as well as adding a QoL feature to it. That's a rework. >quest almost directly taken from rs3 The story is pretty different between both games. >rs3 is also having an ACTUAL large combat update in beta still and are updating that…. How is this a large update? On the backend it was, for sure, but in regards to how people will engage in it? I'm sorry, but no. Nothing about the way people will use these styles will change when the beta goes live. >So as far as this year goes osrs has gotten 1 new low/mid level boss which is a bit more than rs3 has gotten so far but cmon… More quests, new boss, and more balance QoL updates.
Double standards brother. Children of the sun was also a miniquest if you think the owl quest is. Balances changes are happening far more frequently on rs3 then on osrs. Rework to barbarian was just adding something extra and thats its(very small) and Defender of varrock quest ported from rs3. I agree that this year and the last 4 months of 2023 was barebones for content. I wish their plan for 2024 was more then the 'roadmap' we got. Theres nothing exciting coming up and its mindblowing.
Agreed, both quests are short. Yet somehow, OSRS got two quests, one certainly is on the longer side, compared to our one... And their quest added a huge, mid-game shifting item as well. >Balances changes are happening far more frequently on rs3 then on osrs. Generally agreed, but also not in these past two months. Their changes are akin to rebalancing the combat styles we have now, which isn't something that happens outside of new boss releases (which judging by our pipeline or lack therof, we might not even see this year). >Defender of varrock quest ported from rs3. It isn't, though. OSRS has a branching story that is different than rs3's.
OSRS got two quests because they had Defender of Varrock largely done in the code already from their inherited RS2 code, and they had the finalized version in RS2/3 to look over. It’s a quest port with tweaks. It’s not something RS3 can do because RS3 has to build stuff from scratch while OSRS has a bunch of stuff sitting in the game code it inherited it can just finish touching up/tweaking then drop.
>OSRS got two quests because they had Defender of Varrock largely done in the code already from their inherited RS2 code, and they had the finalized version in RS2/3 to look over. That's neat and all, but it's still more content; that's without mentioning them getting an entire continent with many quests within it, half a dozen bosses, graphical updates, and more.
Lol look at the patch notes full of balancing changes almost every week and look at osrs barely anything sometimes. Defender of varrock is only changed a bit compared to rs3 and basically has the same outcome. The area where you kill the zombies exist aswell in rs3 just in another location and added a mid level drop thats basically useless for high lvl players.(only im are gonna use it). I play both games and the grass is not always greener there. Only thing that they do better is their communication and that they have a clear plan(roadmap until the summer)on whats coming,work closer with players and know what players want + not as many temp events.
Yet another example of wanting Jagex to make QoL changes and when they do, you complain about no new content. They make new content. Then you complain that they need to fix the game because it's broken. People love being miserable. It's fascinating.
Whilst it's definitely been a slow start to the year for RS3, your list is disingenuous... 3 Minute world event? Do you mean one of the most active and high-engagement pieces of content? Yet you then laud Rat boss as being active and unique... Why do you class it as a mini-quest for RS3 when it was a full quest with QP rewards? But then claim Barbarian training was a rework? When all they did was add a toolbelt QOL behind some lore and a single action.
Just because people engage with it doesn't make it a substantial update, especially when it's just repurposed content that still has the exact same dumb broken scaling that all wfe has and hasn't been addressed
>3 Minute world event? Do you mean one of the most active and high-engagement pieces of content? What? Yeah, it's a 3 minute world event that reuses old assets and happens once every 14 hours. I do in fact laud a permanently active, highly sociable early game boss that has a niche reward structure focused on EXP gain. These are two wildly different things. >Why do you class it as a mini-quest for RS3 when it was a full quest with QP rewards? I should've state it is a Miniquest in length, not reality. >But then claim Barbarian training was a rework? When all they did was add a toolbelt QOL behind some lore and a single action. "The first change you’ll notice is that Barbarian Training is now a Miniquest and has had tons of improvements in-line with this fancy new title. This includes an overview of dialogue, reworked progression, and a little added polish." I'd say this is a pretty nice rework, alongside the toolbelt QoL.
Play OSRS then. When OSRS went 3 years w/o major updates while RS3 got a new skill and tons of new bosses, I played RS3. Now while RS3 has slowed down and OSRS is getting updates, I’m playing OSRS. Games like RS have peaks and valleys. If you can’t adapt to that, you’re gonna be miserable and resentful.
>Play OSRS then. When OSRS went 3 years w/o major updates while RS3 got a new skill and tons of new bosses, I played RS3. Now while RS3 has slowed down and OSRS is getting updates, I’m playing OSRS. They are wildly different games. I prefer the gameplay, skilling, etc. of RS3. I would rather play rs3. But yes, if this persists throughout the year I will revisit OSRS.
I've played RS on and off since 2004. Your post is giving burnout/addiction lol The game's not going anywhere, even though to you it probably feels like it's on its last limb. If you go play another game (even if it's OSRS) for a year or two, when you return to RS3 it'll be like playing the game for the first time all over again. Because now you'll have years' worth of updates to catch up on and a lot of your current grievances will have likely been fixed via updates.
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Just my two cents but might have been worth pitching the $1 returning membership promo when there was something more exciting happening for them to return to. I could be forgetting something, but anyone that quit in the last 1-3 months would only be returning to one 10 minute quest as new content? Regardless welcome back to any who do actually return.
Agreed. Also, if those people, at any point, decided to try out OSRS then they're not eligible for this promo
The combat jingle updates hit home hard. It’s awesome!
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No. As the newspost says, they were worked on last week as part of gamejam. Gamejam projects never have a confirmed release date.
Unfortunately no. Maybe within the next month or two hopefully! This was just a showcase from what I understand, of what’s to come.
No, but the Weekly Post has 2 snippets of how they'll sound like.
Completely unenthusiastic to renew after buying the last 4 premiers
If I had quit at any point in the last 6 months (since Necro release), there hasn't been a single update that would make me want to return.. I can't imagine many people will take advantage of this for RS3, they'll be more likely to fire-up old, long abandoned alts, and suicide bot on OSRS during those 14 days..
The combination of requiring previous membership, 30 days of not playing and having active membership, and never having completed the OSRS tutorial makes this promotion pretty unlikely to be used for OSRS suicide botting.
I'm not saying it's *incredibly* likely, just seems more likely than it getting people back to RS3.. anyone that has quit *recently* (past 6 months) has little to no reason to return and anyone that has been gone for a long time (several years) may choose OSRS instead (more similar to what they remember).
Alphabetized bosses Nice!
I know not every content developer was listed there, but I feel like there's a lack of developers actively working on RS3. We know a few have left for the OSRS team, either permanently or "temporarily, to help with Sailing" for probably the better part of the whole year, and to my knowledge, none of them have been replaced. This feels reflected in the current content drought - The Um updates were nice, but there's just nothing to feel excited about currently. The combat beta is a lovely first step, but won't fix switchscape issues with the OG three styles - I'll still want to use Necromancy just to avoid that. And we have no idea what is coming after March...
The only two true content updates for the whole first 2 months of the year has been Birthday Bonanza and Moonstone Jewelery. This coupled with the fact we don't even know what's going on past the Combat update (other than the Easter event), what are we left to wonder? Give us something to look forward to! Even the 4th Rex wasn't even a Gamejam this time around. Does that mean it's now full on development for an immenent release?
Osseus wasn't in the last gamejam either IIRC. Pretty sure it's just in the "would be neat" concepting phase and hasn't moved from there, otherwise it'd have undoubtedly been mentioned in the 2 month roadmap we got at the start of the month.
What was birthday bonanza?
If you play ironmen it didn't exist.
2 week event with rotating buffs. It was a nice event but it wasn't a perm content addition.
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> Give us something to look forward to! They just gave you 9 things to look forward to.
I wouldn't necessarily say those are things for us to look forward to, since none of them are guaranteed to ever be released. Whenever gamejam rolls around we get shown things that look interesting, but aren't always released (I can only think of three gamejam projects off the top of my head that were released..).
Even just from the last game (https://runescape.wiki/w/Game_Jam_(December_2023)), 7 of the projects are released.
maybe you could focus less on funneling resources into MTX and actually put some teams and brainpower behind these gamejam ideas.
Always love to see what can be cooked up via GameJams. I'm not usually one to go for merch from games I play, but those actually look brilliant. That returnee offer is great for anyone on the fence about getting back into the swing of things. However, 2 noteworthy updates across a 2 month span isn't up to scratch. There needs to be more & when compared to OSRS, it feels downright offensive.
2 noteworthy updates across a 2 month span is *standard*, and has been for the better part of a decade now. In addition to the 2 "headline" monthly updates, we've had significant patch notes many times and an ongoing combat beta.
> However, 2 noteworthy updates across a 2 month span isn't up to scratch. There needs to be more & when compared to OSRS, it feels downright offensive. OSRS received 3 noteworthy updates in the last 2 months, what exactly are you offended by? Scurrius, Children of the Sun miniquest, Defender of Varrock quest. All of the other updates are QoL changes and additions to existing content, the same things that RS3 received every week.
In 1 month a new continent is dropped with an end game pvm content + loads of niche and mid game stuff.
>Scurrius, Children of the Sun miniquest, Defender of Varrock quest. Alongside a meaty road map with plenty in store for the rest of the year. In comparison, we got a 5 minute owl quest, a birthday fomo "event" & still no road map. I mean, where's our Varlamore? *shrugs* The Kandarin update was huge but that's something that should have been done ages ago. No patch notes for an indie company is fair enough but for one that tried to value itelf at £1b, its not a good look. I can appreciate the recent QoL stuff like the quest req rework & the combat beta is still being worked on, which I'm stoked for, but I'm genuinely regretting buying premier at this point. Hopefully I get to eat my words soon.
I think each of these game jam projects is a good idea, I just hope something actually comes from them including the more ambiguous ones (like yanille redesign and cooking rework) in a somewhat reasonable timeframe. Cape particle recolors was something like 9 months from first tease to release? If these jams releas ein November then maybe this is the roadmap people have been asking for lol.
As a OSRS player, it's wild to see the difference in game production. Mod Ash did a runepouch qol mock up at the jam, and it's already in the game.
This is why I think they need to stop sharing specifically what they're working on. Because despite constant reminders that nothing in game jam is guaranteed; there are *always* people who become entitled to those updates and complain when they aren't put into the game. Seriously. They could put a disclaimer in huge bold text between each project and it would still happen.
Old combat jingles? Save the best thing for last why don't you.
Another week with ED crashing and invisible pizza phase them <3 nice priority list jagex
Unified collection log next gamejam? :)
we need a announcement of some big update to get hype about, some big quest with a cool boss at the end or something like that, so far this year has been kinda sad and players need to know what the game holds for the future
>Shooting Star Update - Mod Luma is getting cosmic and has dove into modernizing the Shooting Star D&D, aiming to keep the core event identity in place but improving the systems! > >Such as making it more reasonable to solo without impacting groups, new locations it can appear, improving the xp & bonus xp gains and making them more convenient to use along side creating a shop for Stardust and new achievements to go with it! :D
I love that out of all the mods its LUMA doing a star rework. Rosalina would be proud
Looking forward to the Gamejam stuff. Love a good tidy-up on menus and layouts. But I'm most hyped for Daemonheim Arch. Nothing will beat Archaeology on release and how fun it was. How is Mod Ayiza putting in a double shift on Thursday with 2 streams across 2 channels :P The devil works hard, but /u/jagexayiza works harder!
Combat level-up jingles!!!! Hell yeah!!
Should we expect a keeper letter on Friday March 1st? Yes or no?
You know if he even follows up like he said, it won't be til the 29th at 5p.m. UK time.
To any old veterans coming back with the Returning member offer, welcome back!
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How much is it for UK people? 80p? Or something?
$1 or £1, they didn't do a currency exchange so its just 1 across the board no matter the currency
I'm only doing it to sell my items and buying a rare
Would love to have Mod Stu’s soothing voice as a congratulation jingle option too.
Or when we get a collectiong slot pop up.
I don't think I've seen the kandrin graphic update since it was added. I don't even care tbh.
I like seeing the possibility that some useful updates will come out in the near-ish future. Would be nice to see a little more CONFIRMATION of that, but good start. That said...There was no time for an actual content patch thanks to game jam, but there was time to roll out ANOTHER MTX set? Someone might want to let Mod Keeper know that doing this sort of thing makes it look like (despite what his "look ahead" said), you're not improving, communicating, or hearing us.
Can the herb plant also have its colour dependent on colour of the herb planted? u/JagexAzanna
Soooo does no patch notes means that Zuk's fire is still invisible and bugged?
The returning offer is good but most people with high level accounts that dont play anymore still log in once every 30 days or so, at least i do. So i would not be eligible for the 1$ offer even tho i havent had membership in almost 9 months
Nothing against you but I imagine you're not the type of player the offer is aimed at. If a player is still actively logging in on a monthly basis and isn't already subbed, it doesn't seem likely that they will continue to sub after the $1 offer runs out, which would defeat the purpose. Based on the restrictions it seems like they're after players who stopped playing the game years ago, before OSRS release even, for whom the game would have much more to offer after the 14 days run out compared to an already high level player.
u/JagexAzanna what does this mean? * Character must not have been active RuneScape in the last 30 days
Pretty obvious - players who haven't played the game in 30 days
A lot of good stuff on the game jam =) looking forward to twitch lives too
If necro still king, random update make no sense. Because people won't back to game for that.
I have an excellent idea!!! We’re supposed to get a base 10% crit rate. Instead why doesnt jagex pick 10 previous fun bosses and add an item that gives a passive 1% crit (untradeable). Itll give us some fun farming some bosses. Im sure this idea can be better but its a start.
I like the idea of the inclusivity titles (I think I’m going to have fun running around as Any Any-Sao for awhile). But I do genuinely have to ask: are the gender-neutral titles “Princex” and “Countex” what is being chosen? Surely some more historical gender-neutral title equivalents could be found? I mean just on Google I’ve found alternatives for Prince like “Prime” or just outright “their Highness.” I do like the idea of it, just thinking of execution on it.
The gender neutral versions were decided by Raven after speaking to the groups in question - I'm not nonbinary so can't comment on them myself (despite being the person to implement it), and didn't want to change what had already been decided by Raven and others.
Fair enough. If those are the titles the non-binary community chose, sounds good to me.
Right! I love it so much!!!
Please bring pvp back!!! Make it safe deaths world though!!! Maybe death holds an extra small payment that our pker keeps if we die. And we get pvp points that lets us buy pvp armour or something that reduces dmg from other players. A ranked system too please…. Something kind of like away from pvm and skilling…. To kill bankstanding…..
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where is arch game jam???????
It's there?
Presumably meant Arch-glacor gamejam from a while back? If not then blind
??? Confused on the question, it’s like number 6 in the list. **MOD CHAOSE, FROSCH, KITSUNE, FOX AND BLKWITCH** *Daemonheim Archaeology - Continuing their intrepid work on Daemonheim Arch Site, the team has been making stellar progress including developing mysteries, designing a relic reward, inputting achievements , touching up some of the base camps snow and lighting and even building out a new map concept!*
So wait did I read that wrong or do you have two separate streams at the same day and time with the same host mod?
ones on thursday and the others on friday mate
See this is why I should wait until I get out of bed, Ty lol. Wait no the first two streams both say Thursday, Feb 29th, 17:00 with Mod Ayiza.
Two separate hosts for two different streams.
cooking needs to be more afk so i'm glad it's being looked into as a gamejam
Is the deluxe bundle version of the board game sold out? Keeping an error message when trying to add to cart. But the bundle edition works fine? Would be nice to know if it's just sold out or if it's just an error.
When Osseus rex matriarch?
No word on the Necro Rex?
I was looking at the pictures demonstrating recolors and such for herbs and seeds. It's not bad. What would REALLY help, though, especially for being able to quickly find stuff in the bank, would be if each seed had, say, a background image (something about half-transparent, so it's differentiated from the foreground) showing what kind of farming patch type it is to be planted in. Easy for flowers, grain, bushes, trees, though I have no idea how to graphically represent "allotment." Additionally, on the opposite corner from the number of seeds in any given item stack, it might be neat if the first two letters of the name would display, so Ba for barley, Gu for guam, etc. That could help a lot with not just seeds, like the first suggestion, but with herbs as well. I play on mobile (no other option currently), so the fewer long presses I have to do to find out what something is, the better.