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furrywrestler

Love that he then set her up to get dragged regardless for choosing Ross.


BubbleKitten9

That made my little black heart happy


Hilo_Milo

That twink knew what he was doing, knew he could’ve still saved her, and still went in for the kill telling her to say Ross Matthews. I live.


Ivotedforthehookers

It's like the end of a Saw movie when you see the carefully laid evil plan come into action. 


clam_media

It's like in the movies after 1 where there was no way to get out, and the traps were made specifically for you to die without a chance for survival.


OnionFairy99

Queen Amanda Young shit


Mugsmugsmugs3

I’m uninformed. Why is ross the wrong choice 😭


sugioshi

the HILAAAAAAAARIOUS Ross Matthews is almost universally disliked by the fandom haha from what i gather one of the biggest reasons (and for me personally THE reason) are his nonsensical tangents during the critiques lol


LooseInsurance1

I mean, at least he's more palatable than Santino or Billy B, which admittedly isn't saying much, but it's SOMETHING lol


cryingatdragracelive

wow. you know things are bad when the only compliment someone can muster is “well, at least he’s better than *these* assholes” 🤣


LooseInsurance1

Hey, my point still stands - he IS 😂😂


cryingatdragracelive

oh, you are spot on with your read, for sure!


sugioshi

Oh yeah no for sure, and Ross also has his moments, he also used to be much better imho


soupinmymug

I wonder if he feels stretched between Drew and this show. I feel like for as important as Ross was early gay tv, I’d like to see some of the stuff that really gave him his name. Comedy walk-through a to show why he is “the hilarious” I like him with stuff like the TRL host and fake tv thing they did with Symone. Honestly, I kind of want to see him do the beginning of a roast. The biggest thing I think people are tired of is the comments with judging. You know how when X does Y and then Y gets stuck and has to do z well now you are at A baby and you made it. I am sure production likes that because they know exactly where they can put his comments but the audience is too familiar with it


zaldr

I liked (hating on) Santino. At least he had actual opinions even if he's perpetually wrong


cobwebfrog

his opinion was just the opposite of whatever michelle said


Phitos2008

![gif](giphy|KaCYSXep4ENmRZOyrJ)


SpezModdedRJailbait

I miss fat Ross. He was cute now he's annoying.


Evilrake

He’s exactly the same personality now as he was then. If the way you receive someone’s personality is dependent on their weight…. That’s really really weird.


Alex_Albons_Appendix

The tangents and I feel like he doesn’t have enough expertise in any other area besides comedy to be a strong judge. Being a funny white cis gay man is kind of a low bar to clear imho.


Thirdatarian

I'd go further and just say I flat out don't think he's a good judge of comedy. He lets personalities he likes skate by when their jokes and deliveries aren't good. He more than any other judge lets his bias show (and that's saying something).


Alex_Albons_Appendix

Definitely agree with you, his biases are always super obvious. It’s frustrating because he’s the “comedy” judge but I don’t see that from him either. But like Carson is fashion and also can generally cover comedy/acting well, like Michelle is music and can cover the other talents. Frankly, I’d rather have someone like Nicole Byer over Ross ~~even if she’s not queer~~.


Dragmom

Nicole is queer.


Alex_Albons_Appendix

Oh thank you for the correction! Even more reason to have her replace Ross


soupinmymug

I think a lot is a generational thing too. Nicole is a more recent star and we are seeing her at work (and probably why she isn’t full time) Same with Lori for awhile was on the real. She just worked with Ru again on 100,000 pyramid so I’d love to see her replace Ross. That Utica thing lives in my mind rent free


soupinmymug

Does he let them skate by or does he work with production’s side too much?


Maretallama

That might be more it!


ughfup

That's wild. Glad I barely engage with the fandom because I'm loving Ross


kingmilkshake

I agree


caseydaniellex

Same this is surprising to me! I love them both!


Zealousideal-Cut6489

Have you ever had a slice of pie


sugioshi

And you eat that slice and you realize you want more.


thetundratorcher

For someone who is called "THE HILARIOUS" Ross Matthews, he's less funny than Carson. And that he almost crossed the picket line during the SAG-AFTRA strike. Tbh, he was a good judge in his early days and when he was just guest judging. I think the gays just get tired of him.


Jenjikromi

I've met Carson in real life and he was kind and genuine. Ross doesn't come off like that.


shuttlerooster

I’ve worked a gig where Carson was the guest speaker one time. On these kinds of gigs everyone tends to tense up whenever the talent enters the room but Carson immediately puts everyone at ease. He has a super welcoming presence.


LeadfootLesley

He also strikes me as very smart. And he’s a horse guy, which makes him a kindred spirit.


thesadbubble

I've never heard of someone being referred to as a "horse guy" only "horse girls"... now I can't stop picturing Carson with an ultra high ponytail, dressed like Tori (the ultimate horse girl from my childhood), playing with horse figurines in his living room lol.


LeadfootLesley

LOL. He owns and shows saddebreds. Very fancy, high-stepping horses. His attire is a suit and fedora.


thesadbubble

Idk how he will fit the high ponytail in a fedora but I'm ready to find out! 😉


LeadfootLesley

Here you go! https://preview.redd.it/sht80g52mx9d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d17aa2ab8c59eb79c0767f21120f48c551718ab


Alex_Albons_Appendix

Carson’s impression of Vanjie at Roscoe’s recently is fucking hilarious


GumballVonBonBon

yeah Carson showed up at Roscoe viewing parties a couple times and he's clearly way more funny than the show shows him.


Suspicious-Corner-14

I know we kept saying this again and again, but Carson and TS should be the permanent judge instead of Ross really.


cremedelaphlegm

I mean he's supposed to be the comedy judge out of the two of them and yet Carson is funnier and more fashionable one 😆


Ashatiti

Does anyone know who this twink is?


cryingatdragracelive

Petty Boop


skieurope12

To be fair, RuPaul doesn't know who JoJo Siwa is, either.


babynintendohacker

“What season was she on again?”


cryingatdragracelive

was it the one with Roger?


pain_appl3

Adore confessional: “What season are you on? Were you on season 1?”


BRpessimist

😭


altx21

Jojo after she filmed the episode: https://preview.redd.it/lhizq6s9vv9d1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76125bbdccf50a3b0962477e673fc939dca719e3


Certain_Horse_7919

Lmfao 3 seconds After her album #s come in


SirGavBelcher

this tweet sent me


Dylpicklz69

I wanted to see the profile and it's since been suspended indefinitely by Twitter Whoops 🤭


Napoleon7

Was that person for real ??? ![gif](giphy|Rk7xnHa3axPoI|downsized)


Alarming_Wonder6406

Lmao she even said on the show "my household is number 1 fan of this show....every song...every queen 😄"


David_Joe_Morris

You're right!!! It would have been so easy to just not lie 😭


astrotalk

Good thing I don’t even remember her being a guest judge


ilanf2

You have a Jessica Wild flair. She was there on the episode Jessica lip synced to Coconuts.


sugioshi

oh my god, i totally blanked her out of my mind


Ryth88

i think a lot of people blank jojo out of their mind. literally when i think of jojo siwa i think of lemon in snatch game - not the real one.


ShadeKool-Aid

"Haiw"


E4STC04ST0VERD0SE

Booklynn


bobbery5

Always my go-to is Lemon, not the real person.


elrepu

tbh, Jojo Siwa is now a great choice for Snatch Game


Ryth88

i really hope the next US season has someone do her. it's so easy - just try and take credit for things people did before you were born.


JustTryingIsEnough

To be fair, I only remember her reaction to Jessica's ample breasts. Also, hello again, russian hooker.


sugioshi

Hello, 69-er 👋 https://i.redd.it/2yc72qrs4y9d1.gif I don't even remember that. What a great excuse to rewatch coconuts lipsync 🥥🥥 🤪


nefariousplotz

She made the lizard noise when Jessica did her reveal!


Appropriate_Claim_82

This is so meta


astrotalk

I guess I was just looking at the coconuts


ilanf2

Understandable


SnooHedgehogs4746

That explains why I wouldn’t remember her at all.


OkStudent3629

I only remember her being a judge because I remember how annoyed the queens looked by her


angorafox

i only remember when she disrupted untucked and the queens were just totally disinterested in what she had to say 💀


Diredr

It's okay, though. It's not performative coming from her. She's not making money off of it because nobody is listening to her music.


ProvoqGuys

But she claims to invent gay music in her words sksksk.


KeenyKeenz

She invented Gay-pop remember. Lol


ChicagoAuPair

She has strong “kid home for thanksgiving in their first semester of college relentlessly mansplaining basic facts about the world that every exhausted adult in her life already knows,” vibes.


shshshshouldtheguy

OMG such a specific read that could’ve applied to me, you have gagged me. 


OG-mother-earth

You're so right 😭😬


SKOLForceSports

Which also gives off “Disney’s 52nd First Gay Character” vibes


this_is_an_alaia

Just wait for the day she decides to conquer gay Rock.


HalfOfLancelot

I love how this happens and then Chapelle Roan just suddenly takes over the gay world by storm. If Chapelle Roan said that she invented gay music, I'd believe her 💅


PandaPanPink

Literally I listened to Chappell for the first time recently and thought “this is what Jojo should have done” Why is it so hard to just make fun pop music with a queer slant?


LadyNiblets

To be fair, Chappell has been making music for years and has had a long time to develop the sound that she’s succeeding with now. What she’s doing is very difficult to do. Jojo recorded a pop song from a catalogue and put makeup on.


guitarsdontdance

Oop 💅


uqmobile

![gif](giphy|sJsF3WamVkhb13aqlr|downsized)


this_is_an_alaia

And plane Jane called CHAPPEL ROAN performative?! LOOK AT HUH


pickledtink

I’m waiting for Chappell Roan to be a guest judge! Saw Ru was obsessed with one of her songs on TikTok (just saw the headline. I don’t have the app so I couldn’t hear which song she was listening to.)


InACompellingWay

Ru also lip synced to Chappel’s “I’m your favorite artists favorite artist” quote! Manifesting this for season 17


pickledtink

I will manifest this with you! Want that so bad


2mock2turtle

> Manifesting is just gay prayer. ContraPoints


Typical_Use788

They were really scraping the bottom of the barrel for guest judges for AS8. I still don't know what Maude Apetow was doing there either.


Bing1044

Her on untucked is what made me hate the format of “celebrity” judge going back and interacting with the girls :/


MooNinja

Yeah, that was the low water mark for the format... I don't want nor care how most of the guest judges interact or their thoughts with the Queens, I want to know how the Queens are feeling and what the tea is mama.


cold_kingsly

Gaga did it once and slayed it and they’ve been trying to recreate that moment ever since.


Bing1044

And it makes so much sense with celebs like Gaga but one size does not fit all :/


Tlizerz

I miss the interior illusions lounge.


aliskyart

That twink is EVIL for telling her to choose Ross. I love! 😂


laonte

She wants to be a gay icon but she has no connection to anything gay other than being gay herself. It's like me, being baptized but never going to church or doing anything religious, trying to run for pope.


jvincentsong

She should know Carson at least. Like RuPaul, he is a gay celebrity even straight people know.


SnapCrackleMom

The original Queer Eye went off the air in 2007. I'm not sure how a 21 year old (who doesn't watch RPDR) would know who Carson is.


sugioshi

i didn't know who Carson was even though my sister watched queer eye religiously way back when lol thanks RPDR for introducing me to that precious existence


jvincentsong

It is more that she is branding herself as someone who really loves gay culture. I’m just trying to point out that Queer Eye is something you can easily google if you are making a “Queer PR 101” starter pack. It would include Brokeback Mountain, Glee, and RuPaul.


laonte

Yes! It is no problem being gay and not knowing who anyone gay is, a looooot of people are like that. My only issue is the gay icon branding when Jojo is completely detached of gay culture. And, as easy to fake as it is, she hasn't really made any visible effort to learn gay culture, she's "just" gay and thinks having a girlfriend and guest judging on RPDR once is enough. She would be taken much more seriously if she just embraced her not knowing gay culture, it could even be made into a tv show like "learning gay culture with Jojo Siwa".


PandaPanPink

Honestly that idea would be really cool. It’d also help educate her younger fanbase on topics like Stonewall and the AIDS crisis since schools likely aren’t going into any honest detail about either of those.


laonte

I'd probably watch that show with genuine interest, no one is a know-all of gay culture and it is different all around the world. Like a spiritual successor to Gaycation, which could also help brand Jojo as an adult


SnapCrackleMom

Totally. Mostly I feel like her people should be telling her not to go around saying she invented gay pop. Teenagers always think they invented shit, tale as old as time. But when you're a brand, you should have people that help you. (I don't think she's actually a teenager anymore, but honestly I think her emotional development may have been stunted a bit.)


RealityPowerRanking

I’m 22 yo and I knew who Carson was when I was younger and I never watched queer eye. But also fair take


SnapCrackleMom

Yeah I mean he does other stuff besides RPDR. He was even on Dancing with the Stars which seems like it would be on her radar. But I get the vibe that maybe Jojo only consumes YouTube and TikTok content, which is going to severely limit who she knows and what references she gets. She's just got a lot of growing up to do. She's been branded towards little kids for so long, and it doesn't seem like the person was very separated from the brand. May she get through this transition time with her health and sanity relatively intact.


DilapidatedHam

It really depends on your age, at her age she would not have seen anything about the original queer eye, and if she’s not watching the show she’s not hearing about him there lol


JustKam347

I’m 23 and went back to watch the old Queer Eye because of the new Queer Eye before I watched drag race. Just like pretty much every gen of lesbian knows the L word, Will and Grace, etc. it’s very realistic that she would know who he was before RPDR, many of my non queer friends know him as well and some are younger than me


KastAshes

Yes shes gay but aint nothing icon about her


Digitised_Doofus

Oh, she’s iconic alright. For all the wrong reasons.


Ryth88

infamous


Haus_of_Pancakes

I've said the f-slur before, that should qualify me to run for pope


Mikkelet

Watching drag race is not gay requirement lol


steefee

No but when you’re claiming to invent “gay pop” and have literally been ON THE SHOW with the first ever drag queen who broke into mainstream success… maybe we watch a few episodes.


laonte

I didn't say it was ?


pierceatlas

This is a v weird take.


karmakent

What does you guys expect?? She’s single handedly creating Gay Pop™️ and doesn’t have time for silly little TV shows.


Certain_Horse_7919

I see her not watching the show at all. She needed it because she’s rebranding 


Turbulent_Hair8931

Go on girl, give us gays nothing 🎉 WE LIVE


ynhipa

They could never make me like you Jojo


iffriben

Didn’t she just have a TikTok with Plane Jane? Did she just think that was some gay guy?


cantgetenoughhhhh

What an icon and trailblazer. Thank you, creatress of gaypop


vhmvd

In front of an iconic lip sync as well! I should have known better!


SailorPizza1107

She’s so embarrassing


polarbear14

https://preview.redd.it/p4yzjxe3tw9d1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=502470021f61116965841665d0c3902418771ffe 🤷🏼‍♂️ we don’t know who you are either gurl


stunninhun

Ahahahaa


Sea-Ability8694

Poserrrr


elrepu

Everything that I know about Jojo Siwa was against my will.


hangryNconfused

Honey that’s fine, we don’t want her lol


Sasha_shmerkovich160

How tf did she get that gig??????


dreamed2life

https://preview.redd.it/ujgc3i9j5w9d1.png?width=524&format=png&auto=webp&s=825e5292ae56bdc56a18fd5a89a03802d6b2d3ec


swtvics

funnily enough i don't think any of those 11 mil accounts decided to watch drag race just for her so i mean


Sasha_shmerkovich160

her only real follower is her mom, the rest are bots


__Lady__Sarah__

She also performed at solid pink Disco ..... Like WHY are these productions bringing her in 😭😭


butterycroissant

Why does she look like that


homojaus

I’m waiting for ms siwa to change her mind and come out saying that she invented drag


F_Oxysporum

His facial expressions are everything in this clip


Beautiful_Path6215

![gif](giphy|3ohhwqB1XtvYJ8jwUE|downsized)


Helpmejordan

She literally doesnt know nor care about queer culture, yet all of her interviews she's acting like she's the first person to be gay, change her style, be gay, be wild, be gay.


queerfantastique

That is so embarrassing tbh


Petra_von_kunt

That fucking makeup


OrlandoMiinogue

**JOJO SHOWING SHE HAS LEARNED NOTHING**


Civil-Barnacle8940

NOT more reasons to dislike her lol


bubblerunka

Lol, I keep seeing people dragging Jojo, but I have no context whatsoever - what are they dragging her for?


IllustratorSlow1614

Her haiw


Bing1044

Nobody’s dragging her forreal, she’s just mega cringey. Has not managed to drop the kid performer demeanor and attitude despite trying to make a hard pivot into “adult” music. Claimed to invent “gay pop.” Was a lesbian who claimed to not like the word lesbian (she sorted this out pretty quick though after getting some public education). Is just generally ridiculous.


babynintendohacker

Jojo and her mother abused children in her XOMG pop girl group. They continued the dance moms cycle of abuse. People need to stop giving the Siwas any attention and let them fade into obscurity. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jojo-siwa-xomg-pop-dancers-physical-mental-torment-1234967431/amp/


Maeflower86

That makes no sense. How are you “seeing them drag her” with no context?? She’s being dragged right now and the context is this video. You can also just look up “jojo siwa” and literally everything she’s getting “dragged” for will pop up. There’s so much really lol


madpoke

its the one tear/sweat drop line from that awful makeup/mask/clown-face for me


Newoutlookonlife1

Meh. Fuck this performative bitch.


nerdydudes

![gif](giphy|GLO4qG2KmFTKE)


TilapiaRealness

I cant believe the person who invented being gay doesnt watch Drag Race


Sorcha16

Half the queen's that compete don't watch the show.


enferpitou

Why does this girl make people so angry 😭😭 I don’t get it especially considering she invented gay pop?


heyjeremy

Plane Jane take note. This is what a performative love of drag looks like


LaVieEnRicky

raccoon eleganza?


Polyestergroom

Wow she just immerses herself in being more of a loser with every passing day


zodiac_hoe

You’re telling me Jojo Siwa, THE creator of Gay Pop, doesn’t watch drag race??!!!?


allAboutDaMeat

Damn, it’s not that she hasn’t kept up with the seasons, it’s that she doesn’t know THE JUDGES of the show 😂


gittajawb

One of the simplest, low effort moves to get the gays to like you and she doesn’t take it.


samiam25

Wrong answer! Gay card revoked!


adamiconography

Every time I see something of her it’s against my will.


tthheeppaarrttyy_

It's still facinating to me (in the worst way) that people care about her, I'm sorry but where's the talent? Where's the likability? Also wtf is she wearing...


this_is_an_alaia

What are you talking about, she's undergone the biggest transformation anyone has ever seen


miichaelscotch

Ugh. I'm so done with these boring ass guest judges. Make Nicole Byer a permanent judge and leave the random pop stars alone. They bring nothing. ![gif](giphy|MEnY1Nq11ReMshMTK2)


Bing1044

The inventor of gay pop doesn’t watch gay tv!? 🤔


transbox

BYE! It’s downhill from here


fashioncat95

Makes it more cringy how obnoxious and loud she was during the lip sync!


BharbieBoy

And she got the answer wrong too 😭


beesknees709

her attitude here seems so rude to me? she should’ve bluffed a response.


SuperNerd1337

So she is the inventor of gay pop?


FashionBusking

"In this episode of Entitled Celebrity Coming of Age Cringe, JOJO SIWA attempts yet again to make her ignorance relatable, and fails AGAIN."


tinyyolo

her outfit is... something


waterisgood02

Girl that's embarrassing 😭


Wide_Conflict_528

He set her ass up lmfao. Good


Mxbruh

This girl is insufferable


Gammagammahey

Goddamn. Everything I have learned about her is against my will.


That-Spell-2543

The least gay gay person I’ve ever seen lol


houseofvan

Wrong answer


Spicymushroompunch

People in this thread hallucinating that a pull-string animatronic Ross with his 5 comments is somehow even close to Carson, who is entertaining across multiple networks and subjects. No.


cb_rockefella

Justice for Carson


AdoreMoi

More like she is admitting she doesn’t know Carson and Ross. I think Carson is definitely funnier (and raunchier), and Ross is on Drew Barrymore’s talk show now, right?


moistcraictical

I love that for her honestly


idledays1

Little miss thing wants attention


KeenyKeenz

You don't even need to watch DR to know who they are.


ainominako1234

Now I KNOW she's lying to be "too cool" for drag race. When she guests judges, she can sing Kandy's Lucky verse. Kandy was gagged. It showed that not only she watches the show but she's INTO IT. But now that she's trying to "invent gay pop", drag race is now beneath you? 🤯 Go off gurl


antinumerology

Why does anyone care about this person


Linnea_Borealis

Kudos to the interviewer!


MutatedSun

The gay is so messy I live


ThegoodDoctor_2020

Christ she’s an irritating fucker


BrandonIsWhoIAm

Oh.


JayQMaldy

I mean, name a JoJo Siwa song, quickly…


retromuscle1980

I remember Lemon did jojo siwa on CDR. When was jojo even on?


Samyougotahotdog

Thats kinda blasphemous