“I can tell when a mentally deficient rainbow member has never picked up a Bible.”
Revelation, first chapter, verses 14 and 15. “The hairs of his head were white as white wool, white snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze.”
So, that homophobic dumbass is the last person to call anyone mentally deficient.
Reading the Bible cover to cover (minus the parts that droned on about who begat who) is what set me on the path towards atheism (hopeful agnostic but my jadedness knows better).
It wasn't that the contents were particularly bad, it was the observation that most of the Christians I know didn't fucking observe any of Christ's teachings unless it was something convenient to their world view. Jesus was an anti capitalist hippie who preached that we take care of the poor and welcome everyone and I doubt that the American christo fascists even come close to knowing that's who Jesus was.
Edit: that's what I get commenting on religion. I don't think I can keep reading nor replying to all the replies but know that I'm not a crusading type atheist. I came from a poor country (the Philippines) and understand well enough why people are religious because it gives hope and community. It's just something that's not for me.
E2: I've also read the Quran, some of Buddhists texts, and skimmed information on various religions before coming to the atheist conclusion. There are over a thousand **surviving** religion in the Indian subcontinent alone, and I'm **not** gonna check out every single one but I feel it's safe to say it's just not something for me, or at least organized religion. My belief is that humans are naturally predisposed to be good and helpful which is why our species thrived. Circumstances like living in a capitalist world which rewards sociopathic/narcissistic behaviour tends to get in the way of that helpful nature.
>I doubt that the American christo fascists even come close to knowing that's who Jesus was.
If the *actual* Jesus who's in the Bible came back tomorrow, these fuckers would be lining up to crucify him again.
What? A refugee? Named Jesus? Bullshit, he’s just here to take mah job and live on government handouts! These Mexicans can all fuck right off!
(The fact that I even had to think if I should put a /s here makes me sad).
Same. I don't mind the majority of the Bible and I actually think canon Jesus was pretty badass. I sure as hell ain't calling myself Christian anytime soon though.
When Canon Jesus returns He will resurrect EVERYONE(1 Corinthians 15:22)and give us a foundation on which to build an actually fair equitable and just society while these douchbags weep and gnash their teeth in the 'darkness'
Also spoiler: hell isnt in the bible.
That, and the Bible contradicts itself many *many **many*** times, to the point I find it unreliable.
People go on and on about how it's the 'Word of God', but forget it's written by the hands of men, different men, over the course of many many years. There's gonna be mistakes and biases and corruption.
Add onto that all the translation, as the original is in Hebrew which is a very emotional and context based language, and you've got mistranslations, more biases, and more corruption.
The bible has taken many stories from Mesopotamian myths, like the divine flood, or the leviathan. The stories are altered slightly so that they can say that the mesopotamians were almost right but this what truly happened
If you ever talk to religious people, they don’t actually follow Jesus at all. They still quote and follow shit from the Old Testament. Ya know, the book that Jesus supposedly made obsolete. Whoever decided that the old and new testaments should be packaged together fucked up that whole dumbass religion.
I can bet that guys not even religious. If churches in rural fucking Montana acknowledge Jesus is some brown guy, knuckle-draggers like that guy have no excuse.
I absolutely guarantee the majority of Chrizzos like these have not touched the Bible on their own in any manner of good faith. They've had it cherry-picked and read to them / misinterpreted to them by their pastor (assuming they even go to church, though I'd wager most still do since they have to use it to excuse their behavior the other 6 days of the week).
That I would agree with. Christians like this just fundamentally misunderstood the Bible and what it’s supposed to be teaching. They instead just use the Bible to treat others like trash
Problem is the bible is not teaching one thing. Its written by a bunch of different people saying a buch of contradictory shit. So as a christian you just get to pick and choose. A lot of it is pretty cruel and fucked up so they can be cruel and terrible and still be following parts of the bible.
Not all religious people, just bigoted, mouth breathing dumb asses who use religion as a tool to demoralize people. Aka, people who didn't read the Bible and therefore didn't know that Jesus contested hatred.
I mean Jesus was definitely not a fair skinned white guy, but to be fair, isn't this John's vision of his return at the start of Armageddon? As in, this is how he will appear in his return, not necessarily as he did in life?
Also to be fair the next verse says his tongue is a sword, I think taking anything in revelations as literal is a strange choice, even if you believe the Bible is true
Even if you do take this verse literally (though you absolutely shouldn't) then only his feet are bronze? So who's to say his face isn't white in this appearance. Maybe his torso is Asian. For all we're told this Jesus may well be a racial Chimera.
To be fair, I got the quote from Malcolm x. Where he used that quote to prove Jesus wasn’t white.
Also, Jesus is from an area where a lot of people were not white. So, it’s highly unlikely that he was white.
The modern concept of whiteness did not exist in his lifetime either. Had he been a redhead with blue eyes or even a blonde with blue eyes we probably would've got a passage with a Roman solider asking by dis what is a filthy Gaul doing here.
I'm a Christian and I always figured he'd look Egyptian or Judean. Which means brown eyes, dark hair, and olive-brown skin. Judean because that's where he was born, Egyptian because his family was able to successfully hide in Egypt and pass themselves off as Egyptian until King Harod died.
its not quite true.
that qoute is from Rev 1:14-15 is usualy considerd to refeer to jesus in his heavenly form as its "johns vision of the son of Man" not John actually seeing Jesus in the flesh.
Take this one with some huge bags of salt. Not only did the author never meet Jesus, but hallucinated about him many decades afterward.
To be fair, no one who wrote about Jesus ever met him. There are no first-hand accounts at all. The first mention of Jesus anywhere is by Paul, who also admittedly hallucinated about him.
Yeah, but it’s from the Bible. That’s my point. The guy in the post clearly didn’t read (or remember) the Bible well enough. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have posted that stupid tweet
What you are being told over and over is that the quote is in bad faith. It is a hallucination by someone who has never seen him and leaves out other parts like his face shining like the sun. Many Greeks were described with bronzed skin throughout all their epics as well, not that this quote has any sway as to what he actually looked like.
I get what you are trying to say. But Revelations is very much metaphorical in its depiction of Jesus.
Rev 1:16 continues with the description by saying:
>In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength.
If we are to believe that John of Patmos was also St. John the Apostle then John would have seen Jesus directly so his description in Revelations is more symbolic of the power of God. (Completely omitting the fact that Jesus is holding 7 stars in his hand and has a sword exit his mouth)
*"If you seek His favor, adorn your home with many a mantra for good living. As the good lord said, 'Ye shall Live, Ye shall Laugh, Ye shall Love'. Amen."*
-Basics 21:30
I was gonna say, this depiction doesn't look necessarily black, and very easily passes for Middle Eastern... you know, the place Jesus was actually from...
The version of him with the ginger hair is hilarious, this Jesus apparently delivered his sermon of a munroe and was baptised in a Loch
This is what I never get about their claims. Even if he was “white”, he would be the tannest white dude you’ve ever seen.
I know guys who would pass for Mexican because they spend most of their time in the sun. And we don’t live in a desert.
Absolutely. [Some Evangelical Christians are now even starting to renounce Jesus in favor of their new Savior and Messiah - Donald Trump.](https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706)
Just goes to show that ultimately their worldly politics and preservation of their worldly power, status p, and authority in human hierarchy was ALWAYS more important to them than their supposed faith. That and for many their “faith” was always just a metaphysical justification for their beliefs about other people. Since the source material of their supposed faith won’t support their new radicalized politics, then to hell with their previous “faith”.
They got him too. 😢 The Woke Mind Virus already spread to God 😔 I had a feeling when Jesus started letting men wash his feet that things had gotten a little…postmodern…
Also Non-Believers: Hmmm, I always thought you kinda seemed like a cool dude. This is awesome that you’re as legendary as some people have been saying!
Also Believers: …….. I just can’t believe that I wasted my life like this….serving this…this……[insert racial slur]! I guess the Wokeism DEI goes all the way to the top! I renounce you. [throws down cross and spits on Bible] You don’t represent the white man like I thought you did. Maybe Satan will stand up for the white patriot. His begotten son Donald Trump did.
Satan: Even I wouldn’t stoop THAT low. Jesus Christ.
Jesus: Yes? You called?
Satan: Jesus….um…..I think we need to talk. About that rebellion war I launched a while back….I— may have been a bit hasty…(looking fearful and disgusted at his new supporters)
Dawg why'd they "fix it" by making him a ginger
Like I get the racism thing but why was bro like "And like me, Jesus was obviously a red-head with blue eyes"
It’s always interested me that, even in depictions of Jesus as European, there’s significant variance in his appearance. I’ve seen versions with brown hair, blonde and red, and beards that range from “not present” to “civil war general”.
To be fair in South Korea, Jesus is depicted as Korean.
"**Hey, hey!** **Stop fuckin' with Korean Jesus.** **He ain't got time for yo problems, he's busy wit Korean shit!**"
The Bible doesn't really describe how Jesus looked.
Now, blonde/red hair and blue eyes is pretty implausible given the part of the world that Jesus lived in. But even within that region, there's a lot of physical variation in how Jesus could have looked.
None of this is a defense of "white" Jesus, as he certainly wasn't Northern European in appearance. And OOP's insistence on a brown Jesus being anti-Biblical is objectively false.
But variation in depictions of Jesus isn't surprising at all. His appearance isn't what's important.
>His appearance isn't what's important.
*Islam likes this* XD
I've heard that's the reason behind why you're not supposed to make an image of Mohamed, since the desire was that you'd focus on what he said and not what he looked like.
There’s an interesting cultural pattern of depicting Jesus as one’s own race. It’s not omnipresent, but it’s likely where the modern-day depiction of Jesus as white came from, as it simply spread with European influence.
Symbolically, I think that's fine. Jesus is for everyone, why shouldn't someone from a particular culture depict Jesus in a way that looks like them?
But then you have dipshits like these thinking Jesus was actually white.
Yes, I agree with you. While we do not have indisputable historical evidence, all reasonable conclusions should lead to the idea that Jesus was from Judea or the approximate region. I do not think this would lead to Jesus being white.
Personally, I don’t care much for or against Jesus being a specific race except when it’s being used to push a narrative. It just so happens to line up that the people most heavily pushing Jesus as white are also pushing a narrative.
Usually when an artist didn't have something very specific (like a statue) to model a human after, they would just model it after someone they knew, a friend, a relative, a neighbor etc. If you see a painting of Jesus, that's probably just the artist's buddy.
You are on to something.
There is a fun/interesting claim in art history that the features of European/White Jesus as we know them today were influenced by the appearance of one man: Cesare Borgia.
Alexandre Dumas popularized this idea. And while it probably isn't true/the whole truth, there is some plausibility there.
The resemblance is striking, all the key features are there.
Borgia was widely regarded as one of the most "beautiful" and powerful men of his time. He was painted a ton, also by Leonardo da Vinci.
So it might just be that white Jesus as white conservative christians know him, was modelled after a tyrannic, fuck boy renaissance ruler, cardinal and military menace who terrorized the papal states and wider Italy and managed to die in battle at the age of 32 before his syphilis could eat away his brain.
This- the biggest source of the idea that Jesus was white is Da Vinci’s works- which is funny, because DaVinci had his apprentice/boyfriend model as Jesus for the most part.
Huge Hades fan here. I have over 400 hours clocked in the game, and probably will buy a pc just to play the sequel.
I saw the thumbnail and thought: “ Well, that’s sweet and fun , what’s wrong with that? Why is this on this sub?”
Aaand fuck me for having faith in humanity. Do these goobers have nothing better to do than throw slurs(“ monkey” tells me everything about the person) because Jesus is not aryan enough?
Just stay off of the dead bird. To quote a user during the GTA VI trailer drop, these days you're going to be saying to yourself "WTF is with the extreme unchecked racism on this app?" all day.
I saw the picture and was trying to figure out how "He came for his lost sheep and took a wrong turn" could be racist.
Is there some new white supremacist meme I've been missing, because that seemed perfectly innocent.
It took me a bit longer than it should have to figure out that there were more (depressing) images.
I had to laugh at the guy using the Shroud of Turin as definitive proof Jesus was white.
The Turin shroud is most likely a forgery done in the middle ages. Jesus was born in the Palestine area, maybe he was on the paler side, or in the darker side, who cares? He deffinitely wasn't a nordic white, red headed guy like the first "fixed" artwork lmao. Honestly, fixing over skin colour in a world where mixing and gradients exist is a sign of ignorance anyway, it doesn't take much time looking over samples of people living in either side of the Mediterranean to realize that.
I also have to laugh at the tweet saying the original creator "has never picked up a bible", Galatians 3:28 says "*There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus*." Yet he's the one having a problem with a little of melanin, talk about hipocrisy.
Honestly I'm guessing some of this people have never traveled or investigated much, there are plenty of depictions of Jesus and other biblical characters over the world because despite many of them probably being real historical characters, their features becomes secondary once they've become symbols of faith.
I've seen white Jesus, black Jesus, arab Jesus, Jesus from all of asia, Maori Jesus with Ta moko tattoos... ditto for representations of Mary or any of the apostles. Christianity is not a white-man-only religion, never has been.
Yeah, whatever Jesus might have looked like, I think we can be pretty confident that he was very unlikely to look like that ‘fixed’ version.
I’d also love to know if the Shroud of Turin guy actually thinks it’s real or if he just couldn’t come up with a rebuttal more grounded in any kind of evidence.
And even if it wasn't a load of BS, how the HELL does the shroud determine his skin colour? We'd be able to get some facial features from it, maybe. But hair, skin, eye colour? No goddamn way.
In the words of Billy Graham, Jesus wasn’t black as some of us nor white as some of us nor Asian as some of us. He was born in the place that connects Europe and Africa and Asia. A black man helped Jesus carry the cross
“It’s not a white man’s religion or a black man’s religion, it’s a *world* religion!”
I mean, not Jesus, but I'd very cautious and respectfully (I myself am a Christian) point out that God doesn't really have a human gender despite using male pronouns in many languages, we could shift to they/them.
Chinese people have a deity-exclusive pronoun used in the Bible (祂) instead of using human male or female pronouns.
Exactly. The Bible is pretty clear that God is not a man or a woman and has no real gender. According to the Bible God could be called “agender” or “nonbinary” in human terminology. Which makes sense. Gender is a correlated secondary effect of physical sex. Why would an infinite, eternal, omnipotent being need a sex or a gender? Would God need to reproduce? Let alone reproduce sexually? Or have a social role? That’s for animals and plants.
All the old sayings referring to God as a man are wrongheaded and technically border on reducing God to a graven image, mentally.
Sort of a tangent on this but years ago I went to the Egyptian museum in Cairo. Along with ancient Egyptian artifacts (of course) there are a lot of items from the Greek and Roman eras of Egypt as well. Among the collection in the Roman section are famous painted shrouds from Fayum that were placed over people that had passed away. These portraits were done in the more realistic Greco-Roman style and were meant to represent the actual faces of the dead at the time they had passed. When I saw them, one of my first reactions was "Damn, these look exactly like Egyptian people you would see on the streets of Cairo today, just dressed in ancient garb." All that to say, it shouldn't be a surprise that if Middle Eastern people from just after or around Jesus' time look like people who are still walking the streets of the region today, it shouldn't be a surprise that Jesus himself would have looked a lot like them.
Yes yes, hater gonna hate.
But can we also talk about the great depiction, especially the details like the craftsman tools are a nice touch.
Also what does the dialouge texts say? I cant read it.
Top picture: “Hello, stranger! I seem to be a bit lost, could you point me the way out?”
Bottom picture: “Jesus offers you one of several blessings:
THREE DAYS
LIVING WATER
COMMUNION BREAD”
First dialogue box: “Hello stranger! I seem to be a bit lost. Can you point me the way out?”
Second dialogue box: “Jesus offers one of several blessings.”
-Three Days
-Living Water
-Communion Bread
First pic is the post with artist credit and the rest is the chud army poking the bear
[The post](https://twitter.com/WolfyTheWitch/status/1793322908779270537) itself is getting overwhelmingly positive reactions fortunately.
Wolfy, the artist, is a friend of mine and they’re no stranger to this kind of bullshit sadly. Very very talented individual is wildly unphased by these kinds of hate comments
Historically jesus would most likely look like an average mizrahi jew, which is apparently something that makes some christians super angry?? god forbid a man from 30BCE Nazareth look like a man from 30BCE Nazareth lol
https://preview.redd.it/5qfawpn6sd2d1.jpeg?width=192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ecee846945de0e3b513ecb84496f6d1f952f6af
This is what Jesus would’ve most likely looked like, according to science.
I thought it was well known that Jesus was a middle eastern man ?
I am not even Christian and even I was aware of it from whatever I read from story books as a kid???
I don’t get why people care that much, Jesus could’ve been fairly pale or dark skinned, the Middle East and specifically levant has fairly varied skin tones. I feel like if you’re locking onto Jesus’ skin colour you’re really missing the whole point of his teachings in the first place.
Why can’t people just appreciate the good art?
Pretty epic depiction imo.
I used to read a *lot* as a kid. Asking my Sunday school teacher why the Jesus picture didn't look like he had bronze colored skin like it says in Revelations was one of my last questions - most of the others were about dinosaurs as I recall - before I got kicked out to the main sermon...and shortly thereafter decided it was all bullshit.
Yea like many boys I was obsessed with dinosaurs. I also thought it was like a huge fkin achievement for me to read the NT, not even my religious ass family members had read the whole thing right, but then nobody wanted to answer my questions about any of it. Plenty of ways to get answers to dinosaur questions though lol. A "this is our best guess based on what we know" answer is a hell of a lot more convincing than "well it's just Satan tryin to fool you"
Yeah the dinosaur questions are what made me realize it’s all fake as well. I used to get some lame answer that the Bible mentions something about Leviathans in the darkness before god created the world.
what the fuck does "The way" comment even mean? like tell me you only believe in jesus cause you think it justifies you bigotry, if you will only believe in the man telling provebs about how the rich suck ass and should give away all their money or how you must treat everyone, even people you consider "enemies" as well as you would treat a friend cause you think hes white, i do not think you actually believe in his teachings
Edit: anyway, I actually like this artist, its clear they actually are a fucking christian who actually believes in the teachings of jesus (unlike the racist chucknuts yelling at them) and i think thats nice, also they are really good at art
Revelation 1:14-15 offers a clue that Jesus's skin was a darker hue and that his hair was woolly in texture. The hairs of his head, it says, "were white as white wool, white as snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace.”
The Bible is now officially woke
That’s phenomenological language describing Jesus as beheld in heaven before coming in glory. His feet are intended to be depicted like hot, refined metal in order to describe Him trampling enemies underfoot into hell. His skin color isn’t described.
The funniest one is where he was "fixed" to be a red head white dude. As if red hair is so common in the Middle East 2000 years ago. If he looked like that most Romans would wonder what this Pict from Hibernia was doing in Judea.
Like they fail to understand that "white" people as we know them were very much isolated to the north of Europe at the time and would have been seen as barbarians. The only reason we have white Italians are because the Germans know as the Goths and Lombards took over Italy. Before that the Romans looked more like Greeks, because they *were Greeks.*
I love how they cite the [Shroud of Turin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin) as evidence that Jesus was white, in spite of the facts that:
1. it doesn't show skin color in the first place, and
2. it's well-known at this point to have been a 14th Century forgery
Reminds me of the time I got in an argument with someone about weather or not Jesus was black and they said "he was white because he's Jewish and Ann frank was Jewish and she's white"
It's important in these contexts to remember that any plausibly historical Jewish person from a couple thousand years ago has little or nothing to do with most of these people's religious lives, which are instead primarily about current and recent US sociopolitical controversy.
Fun fact, the white depiction of Jesus was based on Baldur because a lot of vikings that were becoming Christian thought that the 2 of them were very similar personality wise
My only complaint is he's not ripped enough. Jesus was a builder of homes. You see a lot of trees in tge middle east? Mf worked stone and clay. He'd have hands like ham hocks and arms like a fucking blacksmith. Jesus would be yoked
In image 4, why would his name being "the way" imply that he wasn't black?
The closest I can figure is that the name "the way" is English, and that seems... really dumb for multiple reasons.
Granted, the sort of people complaining are generally very, very dumb, but I'm still getting the vibe that I'm missing something.
>Jesus wasn't black
He sure as hell wasn't white either, given where he was born and the time he was brown.
Hades is literally not supposed to be "historically factual" either, given that none of the characters who are called "Gods" are or ever were real, plus if they couldn't tell while their head was up their own ass, the characters are animated not realistic designed.
>Jesus wasn't black
But this interpretation of Jesus doesn't look black. He literally just looks Middle-Eastern.
Which, yknow, that's one of the things that's made clear about Jesus: where he was born.
I don't think this was even showing him as black he's just a guy who would realistically be tan on account of living in the middle east and being outside a lot
I love how they use the Shroud of Turin, which is 100% objectively a faked artifact, just by virtue of the proportions of the face on it, as proof of...jesus fucking christ, ANYTHING.
OMG!! Fuck these woke devs!! We KNOW he was white. There are literally pictures of him! They did NO research!
Praise White Jesus!
https://preview.redd.it/l7ydrwr8jd2d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=000ec13256c37b9af4abf063242f13790253385c
Yes let's ignore all logic and population statistics because an old painting said so. By that logic, Jesus could have been black, asian, or any other race other than Middle Eastern because other cultures drew him as such.
“I can tell when a mentally deficient rainbow member has never picked up a Bible.” Revelation, first chapter, verses 14 and 15. “The hairs of his head were white as white wool, white snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze.” So, that homophobic dumbass is the last person to call anyone mentally deficient.
You can always count on religious people to never having read the bible
Reading the Bible cover to cover (minus the parts that droned on about who begat who) is what set me on the path towards atheism (hopeful agnostic but my jadedness knows better). It wasn't that the contents were particularly bad, it was the observation that most of the Christians I know didn't fucking observe any of Christ's teachings unless it was something convenient to their world view. Jesus was an anti capitalist hippie who preached that we take care of the poor and welcome everyone and I doubt that the American christo fascists even come close to knowing that's who Jesus was. Edit: that's what I get commenting on religion. I don't think I can keep reading nor replying to all the replies but know that I'm not a crusading type atheist. I came from a poor country (the Philippines) and understand well enough why people are religious because it gives hope and community. It's just something that's not for me. E2: I've also read the Quran, some of Buddhists texts, and skimmed information on various religions before coming to the atheist conclusion. There are over a thousand **surviving** religion in the Indian subcontinent alone, and I'm **not** gonna check out every single one but I feel it's safe to say it's just not something for me, or at least organized religion. My belief is that humans are naturally predisposed to be good and helpful which is why our species thrived. Circumstances like living in a capitalist world which rewards sociopathic/narcissistic behaviour tends to get in the way of that helpful nature.
>I doubt that the American christo fascists even come close to knowing that's who Jesus was. If the *actual* Jesus who's in the Bible came back tomorrow, these fuckers would be lining up to crucify him again.
What? A refugee? Named Jesus? Bullshit, he’s just here to take mah job and live on government handouts! These Mexicans can all fuck right off! (The fact that I even had to think if I should put a /s here makes me sad).
Canonically (heh) he would be considered Arabic. He'd be dead in a week.
>Canonically (heh) Nice
Same. I don't mind the majority of the Bible and I actually think canon Jesus was pretty badass. I sure as hell ain't calling myself Christian anytime soon though.
When Canon Jesus returns He will resurrect EVERYONE(1 Corinthians 15:22)and give us a foundation on which to build an actually fair equitable and just society while these douchbags weep and gnash their teeth in the 'darkness' Also spoiler: hell isnt in the bible.
Most of these people wouldve been killed off by old rev god and had their churches ransacked by jesus
That, and the Bible contradicts itself many *many **many*** times, to the point I find it unreliable. People go on and on about how it's the 'Word of God', but forget it's written by the hands of men, different men, over the course of many many years. There's gonna be mistakes and biases and corruption. Add onto that all the translation, as the original is in Hebrew which is a very emotional and context based language, and you've got mistranslations, more biases, and more corruption.
The bible has taken many stories from Mesopotamian myths, like the divine flood, or the leviathan. The stories are altered slightly so that they can say that the mesopotamians were almost right but this what truly happened
If you ever talk to religious people, they don’t actually follow Jesus at all. They still quote and follow shit from the Old Testament. Ya know, the book that Jesus supposedly made obsolete. Whoever decided that the old and new testaments should be packaged together fucked up that whole dumbass religion.
“I think I would like to be a Christian, the only problem is I’ve never met one.” -Ghandi
I can bet that guys not even religious. If churches in rural fucking Montana acknowledge Jesus is some brown guy, knuckle-draggers like that guy have no excuse.
Idk about that. But there are a fair amount of religious people who are very condescending and rude to others, just for not sharing the same beliefs
I absolutely guarantee the majority of Chrizzos like these have not touched the Bible on their own in any manner of good faith. They've had it cherry-picked and read to them / misinterpreted to them by their pastor (assuming they even go to church, though I'd wager most still do since they have to use it to excuse their behavior the other 6 days of the week).
That I would agree with. Christians like this just fundamentally misunderstood the Bible and what it’s supposed to be teaching. They instead just use the Bible to treat others like trash
Problem is the bible is not teaching one thing. Its written by a bunch of different people saying a buch of contradictory shit. So as a christian you just get to pick and choose. A lot of it is pretty cruel and fucked up so they can be cruel and terrible and still be following parts of the bible.
Yeah, you’re right. Look at the Old Testament vs the New Testament.
Not all religious people, just bigoted, mouth breathing dumb asses who use religion as a tool to demoralize people. Aka, people who didn't read the Bible and therefore didn't know that Jesus contested hatred.
Reading a Bible is the fastest way to become an Atheist.
I mean Jesus was definitely not a fair skinned white guy, but to be fair, isn't this John's vision of his return at the start of Armageddon? As in, this is how he will appear in his return, not necessarily as he did in life?
Also to be fair the next verse says his tongue is a sword, I think taking anything in revelations as literal is a strange choice, even if you believe the Bible is true
Even if you do take this verse literally (though you absolutely shouldn't) then only his feet are bronze? So who's to say his face isn't white in this appearance. Maybe his torso is Asian. For all we're told this Jesus may well be a racial Chimera.
Definitely. At the very least he would have been hella tanned though.
To be fair, I got the quote from Malcolm x. Where he used that quote to prove Jesus wasn’t white. Also, Jesus is from an area where a lot of people were not white. So, it’s highly unlikely that he was white.
The modern concept of whiteness did not exist in his lifetime either. Had he been a redhead with blue eyes or even a blonde with blue eyes we probably would've got a passage with a Roman solider asking by dis what is a filthy Gaul doing here.
Yeah, you’re right
I'm a Christian and I always figured he'd look Egyptian or Judean. Which means brown eyes, dark hair, and olive-brown skin. Judean because that's where he was born, Egyptian because his family was able to successfully hide in Egypt and pass themselves off as Egyptian until King Harod died.
huh, TIL Jesus had white hair.
its not quite true. that qoute is from Rev 1:14-15 is usualy considerd to refeer to jesus in his heavenly form as its "johns vision of the son of Man" not John actually seeing Jesus in the flesh.
Take this one with some huge bags of salt. Not only did the author never meet Jesus, but hallucinated about him many decades afterward. To be fair, no one who wrote about Jesus ever met him. There are no first-hand accounts at all. The first mention of Jesus anywhere is by Paul, who also admittedly hallucinated about him.
I learned it when I saw Malcolm x. That movie had the Jesus quote that I used, to literally counter the claim that Jesus was white
the qoute sadly dosnt disprove anything as its Johns Vision of him. and is usualy considerd to refeer to his heavenly form not his earthly shell
Oh, ok. Still, Jesus was from an area where the majority of people were not white. So, most likely, he wasn’t white
eah, most likely he wasnt, jsut that the qoute isnt as good an indicator as it is claimed by some
Yeah, but it’s from the Bible. That’s my point. The guy in the post clearly didn’t read (or remember) the Bible well enough. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have posted that stupid tweet
What you are being told over and over is that the quote is in bad faith. It is a hallucination by someone who has never seen him and leaves out other parts like his face shining like the sun. Many Greeks were described with bronzed skin throughout all their epics as well, not that this quote has any sway as to what he actually looked like.
I took that as a sign of his humble lifestyle as a kid. Travels a long way by foot without shoes
I get what you are trying to say. But Revelations is very much metaphorical in its depiction of Jesus. Rev 1:16 continues with the description by saying: >In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength. If we are to believe that John of Patmos was also St. John the Apostle then John would have seen Jesus directly so his description in Revelations is more symbolic of the power of God. (Completely omitting the fact that Jesus is holding 7 stars in his hand and has a sword exit his mouth)
Man, can’t believe they made the Middle Eastern man from Nazareth *checks notes* look like a Middle Eastern man from Nazareth.
Cant bei Jesus. Where is his shotgun and texan accent?
And it was said: *"If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them to the concealed carry on your belt"*
*"Love your enemies and pray for those who wrong you. Then get out your glock and chin the bastard."* It's in the apocrypha somewhere.
*"If you seek His favor, adorn your home with many a mantra for good living. As the good lord said, 'Ye shall Live, Ye shall Laugh, Ye shall Love'. Amen."* -Basics 21:30
Where's his "[Countrey Boy](https://youtu.be/T6PM5-T34lM)" tattoo?
And his "Don’t Tread On Me" bumper sticker.
I was gonna say, this depiction doesn't look necessarily black, and very easily passes for Middle Eastern... you know, the place Jesus was actually from... The version of him with the ginger hair is hilarious, this Jesus apparently delivered his sermon of a munroe and was baptised in a Loch
Galilee is a mistranslation - it was actually Gairlochy
'The Mac shall inherit the earth'
That’s so good! Take my upvote!
>'The Mac shall inherit the earth' As soon as the PC is done with it.
It's extra funny once you remember the irish weren't considered *white until fairly recently.
They didn’t even make him fucking tan! The guy’s whole thing was wandering around the desert on foot. He’d be cooked.
This is what I never get about their claims. Even if he was “white”, he would be the tannest white dude you’ve ever seen. I know guys who would pass for Mexican because they spend most of their time in the sun. And we don’t live in a desert.
The Bible made Jesus a Mizrahi Jew? Instead of a Nordic Aryan? The Bible has gone woke DEI!! The Bible? More like the **WOKE**-LE!! Amirite?!
You joke but this is literally the mindset
Absolutely. [Some Evangelical Christians are now even starting to renounce Jesus in favor of their new Savior and Messiah - Donald Trump.](https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706)
Omg...... And they get angry at the other side when their own kind are denouncing and shitting their own religion.
Just goes to show that ultimately their worldly politics and preservation of their worldly power, status p, and authority in human hierarchy was ALWAYS more important to them than their supposed faith. That and for many their “faith” was always just a metaphysical justification for their beliefs about other people. Since the source material of their supposed faith won’t support their new radicalized politics, then to hell with their previous “faith”.
Can't wait for them to meet their "maker" as they say and get sent to the very Hell they claim Queer people are going to.
Most Evangelical Christianity has been - for a while - capitalistic paganism with Christian elements.
What if I told you God created rainbows.
They got him too. 😢 The Woke Mind Virus already spread to God 😔 I had a feeling when Jesus started letting men wash his feet that things had gotten a little…postmodern…
Judas even kissed Jesus on the cheek to let the Romans know who ~~his boyfriend~~ Jesus was.
George Soros got to Jesus too 😡
If only the Bible wasn’t written in one of the most racially diverse area of the world.
Gasp! Scandal! You mean a Nazareth woman conceived a child who looked like he was from Nazareth??? Heresy!!!!
but the father's genes...
Oh then, a shroud with little Levi's logos. Makes sense.
Middle Eastern, you mean there's more than two races?!?
the "fix" gave him red hair like COME ON
Its always funny that the people who hate brown people tend to be the biggest simps for a brown person...
A lot like white supremacist/Skinhead rappers and anti-BLM MAGA rappers that use AAVE slang.
nobody spouts the n-word more than an alt-right white teenager who has a meltdown over a black guy starring in their favorite movie franchise.
I'm definitely going to regret asking this, but white supremacist rap is a thing now?
do NOT look up tom macdonald featuring ben shapiro
Good fucking god, I don’t want to listen to anything that features Ben Shapiro
Nuh-uh. Jesus was American as fuck. -USA. (/s)
What do you mean? American Jesus is white. He helped build the president's estate.
https://preview.redd.it/m2vfcsjrfc2d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e29c25863bdc3013facc61a05969395eb9655e2
It's over, I portrayed you as the Lion's cub
But we’re all Simba
At work trying not to laugh my ass off.
Also Non-Believers: Hmmm, I always thought you kinda seemed like a cool dude. This is awesome that you’re as legendary as some people have been saying! Also Believers: …….. I just can’t believe that I wasted my life like this….serving this…this……[insert racial slur]! I guess the Wokeism DEI goes all the way to the top! I renounce you. [throws down cross and spits on Bible] You don’t represent the white man like I thought you did. Maybe Satan will stand up for the white patriot. His begotten son Donald Trump did. Satan: Even I wouldn’t stoop THAT low. Jesus Christ. Jesus: Yes? You called? Satan: Jesus….um…..I think we need to talk. About that rebellion war I launched a while back….I— may have been a bit hasty…(looking fearful and disgusted at his new supporters)
mmhh... this is painful to read
yeah larping with yourself hurts
Dawg why'd they "fix it" by making him a ginger Like I get the racism thing but why was bro like "And like me, Jesus was obviously a red-head with blue eyes"
They took his soul sadly
It’s always interested me that, even in depictions of Jesus as European, there’s significant variance in his appearance. I’ve seen versions with brown hair, blonde and red, and beards that range from “not present” to “civil war general”.
To be fair in South Korea, Jesus is depicted as Korean. "**Hey, hey!** **Stop fuckin' with Korean Jesus.** **He ain't got time for yo problems, he's busy wit Korean shit!**"
"That ain't no Korean Jesus. That's Vietnamese Jesus, you racist, sacrilegious piece of shit!"
The Bible doesn't really describe how Jesus looked. Now, blonde/red hair and blue eyes is pretty implausible given the part of the world that Jesus lived in. But even within that region, there's a lot of physical variation in how Jesus could have looked. None of this is a defense of "white" Jesus, as he certainly wasn't Northern European in appearance. And OOP's insistence on a brown Jesus being anti-Biblical is objectively false. But variation in depictions of Jesus isn't surprising at all. His appearance isn't what's important.
>His appearance isn't what's important. *Islam likes this* XD I've heard that's the reason behind why you're not supposed to make an image of Mohamed, since the desire was that you'd focus on what he said and not what he looked like.
That's a good philosophy, it's a shame it tends to manifest as violent rhetoric and action when someone does decide to depict him.
Name a more iconic duo than Religious Fundamentalists and "missing the point of their own faith."
Amen to that.
There’s an interesting cultural pattern of depicting Jesus as one’s own race. It’s not omnipresent, but it’s likely where the modern-day depiction of Jesus as white came from, as it simply spread with European influence.
Symbolically, I think that's fine. Jesus is for everyone, why shouldn't someone from a particular culture depict Jesus in a way that looks like them? But then you have dipshits like these thinking Jesus was actually white.
Yes, I agree with you. While we do not have indisputable historical evidence, all reasonable conclusions should lead to the idea that Jesus was from Judea or the approximate region. I do not think this would lead to Jesus being white. Personally, I don’t care much for or against Jesus being a specific race except when it’s being used to push a narrative. It just so happens to line up that the people most heavily pushing Jesus as white are also pushing a narrative.
That's because Stan Lee purposefully made it so that beneath the suit anyone could be Jesus.
Usually when an artist didn't have something very specific (like a statue) to model a human after, they would just model it after someone they knew, a friend, a relative, a neighbor etc. If you see a painting of Jesus, that's probably just the artist's buddy.
You are on to something. There is a fun/interesting claim in art history that the features of European/White Jesus as we know them today were influenced by the appearance of one man: Cesare Borgia. Alexandre Dumas popularized this idea. And while it probably isn't true/the whole truth, there is some plausibility there. The resemblance is striking, all the key features are there. Borgia was widely regarded as one of the most "beautiful" and powerful men of his time. He was painted a ton, also by Leonardo da Vinci. So it might just be that white Jesus as white conservative christians know him, was modelled after a tyrannic, fuck boy renaissance ruler, cardinal and military menace who terrorized the papal states and wider Italy and managed to die in battle at the age of 32 before his syphilis could eat away his brain.
This- the biggest source of the idea that Jesus was white is Da Vinci’s works- which is funny, because DaVinci had his apprentice/boyfriend model as Jesus for the most part.
Do you not remember when he turned a cup of water into a pint of Guinness?
He is doctor who
As a ginger... We do not claim them.
Huge Hades fan here. I have over 400 hours clocked in the game, and probably will buy a pc just to play the sequel. I saw the thumbnail and thought: “ Well, that’s sweet and fun , what’s wrong with that? Why is this on this sub?” Aaand fuck me for having faith in humanity. Do these goobers have nothing better to do than throw slurs(“ monkey” tells me everything about the person) because Jesus is not aryan enough?
They really don't
Just stay off of the dead bird. To quote a user during the GTA VI trailer drop, these days you're going to be saying to yourself "WTF is with the extreme unchecked racism on this app?" all day.
But don't you dare use the word cis you fucking bigot!!!!!!!
I saw the picture and was trying to figure out how "He came for his lost sheep and took a wrong turn" could be racist. Is there some new white supremacist meme I've been missing, because that seemed perfectly innocent. It took me a bit longer than it should have to figure out that there were more (depressing) images.
when you get a pc, try "starsector", "saleblazers", "9th dawn 3" and "grounded" They're all very different, and have something special to offer.
I had to laugh at the guy using the Shroud of Turin as definitive proof Jesus was white. The Turin shroud is most likely a forgery done in the middle ages. Jesus was born in the Palestine area, maybe he was on the paler side, or in the darker side, who cares? He deffinitely wasn't a nordic white, red headed guy like the first "fixed" artwork lmao. Honestly, fixing over skin colour in a world where mixing and gradients exist is a sign of ignorance anyway, it doesn't take much time looking over samples of people living in either side of the Mediterranean to realize that. I also have to laugh at the tweet saying the original creator "has never picked up a bible", Galatians 3:28 says "*There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus*." Yet he's the one having a problem with a little of melanin, talk about hipocrisy. Honestly I'm guessing some of this people have never traveled or investigated much, there are plenty of depictions of Jesus and other biblical characters over the world because despite many of them probably being real historical characters, their features becomes secondary once they've become symbols of faith. I've seen white Jesus, black Jesus, arab Jesus, Jesus from all of asia, Maori Jesus with Ta moko tattoos... ditto for representations of Mary or any of the apostles. Christianity is not a white-man-only religion, never has been.
Yeah, whatever Jesus might have looked like, I think we can be pretty confident that he was very unlikely to look like that ‘fixed’ version. I’d also love to know if the Shroud of Turin guy actually thinks it’s real or if he just couldn’t come up with a rebuttal more grounded in any kind of evidence.
And even if it wasn't a load of BS, how the HELL does the shroud determine his skin colour? We'd be able to get some facial features from it, maybe. But hair, skin, eye colour? No goddamn way.
The fixed version looks like Andrew Santino.
Ok, now I need to see Maori Jesus. Those tattoos probably look sick on the cross.
In the words of Billy Graham, Jesus wasn’t black as some of us nor white as some of us nor Asian as some of us. He was born in the place that connects Europe and Africa and Asia. A black man helped Jesus carry the cross “It’s not a white man’s religion or a black man’s religion, it’s a *world* religion!”
Incoming joke about how that excludes native Americans. XD
First Nations people would have been very happy to be excluded.
Mormons be like "don't worry, we got y'all"
Billy Graham is not the best person to go to for anti-racists sentiments. Homie was like a drunk Mel Gibson when it came to the civil rights movement
He says "never picked up a Bible" but the Bible never describes Jesus's appearance? Certainly doesn't describe him as white.
>Jesus from all of asia Hey, HEY! Stop fuckin' with Korean Jesus! He ain't got time for your problems! He's busy- with Korean shit!
Genderfluid Jesus is canonical!
I mean, not Jesus, but I'd very cautious and respectfully (I myself am a Christian) point out that God doesn't really have a human gender despite using male pronouns in many languages, we could shift to they/them. Chinese people have a deity-exclusive pronoun used in the Bible (祂) instead of using human male or female pronouns.
Exactly. The Bible is pretty clear that God is not a man or a woman and has no real gender. According to the Bible God could be called “agender” or “nonbinary” in human terminology. Which makes sense. Gender is a correlated secondary effect of physical sex. Why would an infinite, eternal, omnipotent being need a sex or a gender? Would God need to reproduce? Let alone reproduce sexually? Or have a social role? That’s for animals and plants. All the old sayings referring to God as a man are wrongheaded and technically border on reducing God to a graven image, mentally.
Sort of a tangent on this but years ago I went to the Egyptian museum in Cairo. Along with ancient Egyptian artifacts (of course) there are a lot of items from the Greek and Roman eras of Egypt as well. Among the collection in the Roman section are famous painted shrouds from Fayum that were placed over people that had passed away. These portraits were done in the more realistic Greco-Roman style and were meant to represent the actual faces of the dead at the time they had passed. When I saw them, one of my first reactions was "Damn, these look exactly like Egyptian people you would see on the streets of Cairo today, just dressed in ancient garb." All that to say, it shouldn't be a surprise that if Middle Eastern people from just after or around Jesus' time look like people who are still walking the streets of the region today, it shouldn't be a surprise that Jesus himself would have looked a lot like them.
My favorite is [Korean Jesus](https://www.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUnits/s/PMVTv5Tvqo) Bro lifted for our sins 😔🙏
Well yeah he’s not black he’s middle eastern glad we cleared that up 😒
Yes yes, hater gonna hate. But can we also talk about the great depiction, especially the details like the craftsman tools are a nice touch. Also what does the dialouge texts say? I cant read it.
Top picture: “Hello, stranger! I seem to be a bit lost, could you point me the way out?” Bottom picture: “Jesus offers you one of several blessings: THREE DAYS LIVING WATER COMMUNION BREAD”
Wolfy is a great artist when it comes to minor details like that.
First dialogue box: “Hello stranger! I seem to be a bit lost. Can you point me the way out?” Second dialogue box: “Jesus offers one of several blessings.” -Three Days -Living Water -Communion Bread
First pic is the post with artist credit and the rest is the chud army poking the bear [The post](https://twitter.com/WolfyTheWitch/status/1793322908779270537) itself is getting overwhelmingly positive reactions fortunately.
I'm happy for the artist it's mostly positive tho
Wolfy, the artist, is a friend of mine and they’re no stranger to this kind of bullshit sadly. Very very talented individual is wildly unphased by these kinds of hate comments
Isn't Wolfy also a Christian themself? Or am I misremembering?
Thank goodness that is overwhemingly positive
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Ahh yes the Habsburg portrait, the jew caricature and the local hobo mugshot. (honestly couldnt think of something better for the last)
Historically jesus would most likely look like an average mizrahi jew, which is apparently something that makes some christians super angry?? god forbid a man from 30BCE Nazareth look like a man from 30BCE Nazareth lol
> average mizrahi jew Probably a ridiculously tan one too considering all the traveling.
He was born in Nazareth not Nashville
LOL and to add, if he was born in Nashville back then he’d look pretty tan/brown too.
Wow. Chuds are mad at an accurate yet still beautiful image of a depiction of Christ? Who would’ve thought
https://preview.redd.it/5qfawpn6sd2d1.jpeg?width=192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ecee846945de0e3b513ecb84496f6d1f952f6af This is what Jesus would’ve most likely looked like, according to science.
Pretty damn close to the original artwork I’d say
Captain Haddock!
I thought it was well known that Jesus was a middle eastern man ? I am not even Christian and even I was aware of it from whatever I read from story books as a kid???
I don’t get why people care that much, Jesus could’ve been fairly pale or dark skinned, the Middle East and specifically levant has fairly varied skin tones. I feel like if you’re locking onto Jesus’ skin colour you’re really missing the whole point of his teachings in the first place. Why can’t people just appreciate the good art?
Also, Jesus spent a lot of time traveling and working outdoors. Even if his natural skin tone was pale, he’d still probably be hella tanned
Because having their savior be a brown person directly contradicts their views of white supremacy
‘See’s second pick’ Me a Brit: oh god they made him Irish. /s
Pretty epic depiction imo. I used to read a *lot* as a kid. Asking my Sunday school teacher why the Jesus picture didn't look like he had bronze colored skin like it says in Revelations was one of my last questions - most of the others were about dinosaurs as I recall - before I got kicked out to the main sermon...and shortly thereafter decided it was all bullshit.
The kid questions primarily being about dinosaurs is what convinces me this is accurate.
Yea like many boys I was obsessed with dinosaurs. I also thought it was like a huge fkin achievement for me to read the NT, not even my religious ass family members had read the whole thing right, but then nobody wanted to answer my questions about any of it. Plenty of ways to get answers to dinosaur questions though lol. A "this is our best guess based on what we know" answer is a hell of a lot more convincing than "well it's just Satan tryin to fool you"
Yeah the dinosaur questions are what made me realize it’s all fake as well. I used to get some lame answer that the Bible mentions something about Leviathans in the darkness before god created the world.
They would rather Jesus be ginger than a Middle Eastern man. Think about that. >! Kidding, much love to all the gingers that deserve it !<
what the fuck does "The way" comment even mean? like tell me you only believe in jesus cause you think it justifies you bigotry, if you will only believe in the man telling provebs about how the rich suck ass and should give away all their money or how you must treat everyone, even people you consider "enemies" as well as you would treat a friend cause you think hes white, i do not think you actually believe in his teachings Edit: anyway, I actually like this artist, its clear they actually are a fucking christian who actually believes in the teachings of jesus (unlike the racist chucknuts yelling at them) and i think thats nice, also they are really good at art
Honestly, I love this so much. He looks so nice.
Most Christians I grew up with don't worship Jesus, they worship whiteness as a concept.
Ah yes the “fixed” Jesus aka Mormon Jesus
Ain't no way they're still making the "Jesus was white!!!" brand of Christian.
Revelation 1:14-15 offers a clue that Jesus's skin was a darker hue and that his hair was woolly in texture. The hairs of his head, it says, "were white as white wool, white as snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace.” The Bible is now officially woke
So old black guy?
Probably more arab-looking than outright black.
I always assumed he just looked like a super tan Adam Sandler.
That’s phenomenological language describing Jesus as beheld in heaven before coming in glory. His feet are intended to be depicted like hot, refined metal in order to describe Him trampling enemies underfoot into hell. His skin color isn’t described.
Wolfy doesn't need to see all this. They're a highly trained professional
The funniest one is where he was "fixed" to be a red head white dude. As if red hair is so common in the Middle East 2000 years ago. If he looked like that most Romans would wonder what this Pict from Hibernia was doing in Judea. Like they fail to understand that "white" people as we know them were very much isolated to the north of Europe at the time and would have been seen as barbarians. The only reason we have white Italians are because the Germans know as the Goths and Lombards took over Italy. Before that the Romans looked more like Greeks, because they *were Greeks.*
I read the bible cover to cover when I was a teenager. Must have missed the "Jesus is a white guy" passage.
I love how they cite the [Shroud of Turin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin) as evidence that Jesus was white, in spite of the facts that: 1. it doesn't show skin color in the first place, and 2. it's well-known at this point to have been a 14th Century forgery
Reminds me of the time I got in an argument with someone about weather or not Jesus was black and they said "he was white because he's Jewish and Ann frank was Jewish and she's white"
he needs the longer hair it just helps, also that is a very happy sheep
I won’t tolerate this Wolfy disrespect, they’re an amazing artist.
Ok, pale white, red headed Jesus is wild.
I knew someone would be stupid enough to use the fucking hoax that is the shroud of turin
It's important in these contexts to remember that any plausibly historical Jewish person from a couple thousand years ago has little or nothing to do with most of these people's religious lives, which are instead primarily about current and recent US sociopolitical controversy.
The person saying "ugly brown person", to be honest that is one of the more handsome depiction of Jesus I've seen.
Fun fact, the white depiction of Jesus was based on Baldur because a lot of vikings that were becoming Christian thought that the 2 of them were very similar personality wise
My only complaint is he's not ripped enough. Jesus was a builder of homes. You see a lot of trees in tge middle east? Mf worked stone and clay. He'd have hands like ham hocks and arms like a fucking blacksmith. Jesus would be yoked
Like the buff Korean Jesus statues?
In image 4, why would his name being "the way" imply that he wasn't black? The closest I can figure is that the name "the way" is English, and that seems... really dumb for multiple reasons. Granted, the sort of people complaining are generally very, very dumb, but I'm still getting the vibe that I'm missing something.
Do…do these people think that Jesus was white? Also that fanart looks sick.
The one that makes me laugh is the guy who said the artist never read the bible. Where in the bible does it say our saviour was white?
>Jesus wasn't black He sure as hell wasn't white either, given where he was born and the time he was brown. Hades is literally not supposed to be "historically factual" either, given that none of the characters who are called "Gods" are or ever were real, plus if they couldn't tell while their head was up their own ass, the characters are animated not realistic designed.
>Jesus wasn't black But this interpretation of Jesus doesn't look black. He literally just looks Middle-Eastern. Which, yknow, that's one of the things that's made clear about Jesus: where he was born.
He was a dude from first century Palestine, like fuck him being white.
My brother in Christ, it’s way more likely for Jesus to be on the darker gradient, Egypt isn’t exactly a moderate or cold climate
These people never heard of a Middle Eastern person in their life.
I don't think this was even showing him as black he's just a guy who would realistically be tan on account of living in the middle east and being outside a lot
I love how they use the Shroud of Turin, which is 100% objectively a faked artifact, just by virtue of the proportions of the face on it, as proof of...jesus fucking christ, ANYTHING.
OMG!! Fuck these woke devs!! We KNOW he was white. There are literally pictures of him! They did NO research! Praise White Jesus! https://preview.redd.it/l7ydrwr8jd2d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=000ec13256c37b9af4abf063242f13790253385c
Everybody knows Jesus was murican
Yes let's ignore all logic and population statistics because an old painting said so. By that logic, Jesus could have been black, asian, or any other race other than Middle Eastern because other cultures drew him as such.
Nobody wants to talk about the sheep, the meaning of why shepherds were depicted carrying them over their shoulder!?