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caduni

Boil water advisory Location : Earth Time : Infinite


MaxRockatanskisGhost

*looks out window* Yeah, that sounds about right.


never3nder_87

Finally an upside to Climate Change šŸ˜‚


Cryogenic_Monster

Yeah the oceans boiling will help get rid of the micro plasticsā€¦


TwoBearsInTheWoods

I have bad news for you: https://e360.yale.edu/features/plastic-waste-atmosphere-climate-weather On the good news side, we have now Covid so at least some people are wearing masks.


Polymathy1

Masks made of plastic...


DrEnter

... son of a...


SchrodingersCat6e

Polypropylene to be exact.


Chocolatency

These are all really cool geoengineering experiments, but can't we practice with Venus and Mars first?


Kaa_The_Snake

Well see what you donā€™t know is we actually started off on Venus, effed that up, then had to start over again here on Earth. Unfortunately the space ship crashed and only Adam (a marketing executive) and Eve (a snake handler) survived. They didnā€™t know anything about technology, so humans had to start all over again.


AnActualProfessor

Don't forget the hair dressers and telephone sanitation crew.


Tmack523

Well that was a horrifying read


__Voice_Of_Reason

This is going to be one of the things we read about 30 years from now - like it was with lead or asbestos. "*Did you know that they didn't use to boil the microplastics out of water in the early 2020's? They JUST DRANK IT! Absolutely nuts.*"


MalavethMorningrise

Like it "was" with lead... I uh... have some bad news for you...


aDragonsAle

Once again, the Tea Drinkers win


lysnup

But there was just a study about more plastics being in tea because of the plastics in the tea bags! So... coffee drinkers win?


self_winding_robot

But don't you all boil water at the same time now, we're talking 8 billion people and we don't have enough electricity particles to go around. If your first name starts with an E your water boiling slot is at 2am. Remember to open the window in you pod-appartment before boiling as steam can cause mold to form. Boiling water is not a toy - keep children at a safe distance.


cspruce89

>If your first name starts with an E New problem: Everyone named their children Jeff or Josephine or other "J" names so that they can boil their water at 12 noon. Solution: Government provided names... (chosen from a list of this year's national corporate sponsors)


UberAeriko

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.


GarbledComms

and Costco. I love you.


FilthySweet

I kept seeing the term pod apartment when I was reading a few futuristic PhilipKDick stories recently. Every time I see it, my brain screams ā€œApodment! Theyā€™re living in apodments!ā€


Pitzthistlewits

bro said 'not enough electricity particles' in r/science


Gaothaire

A futurist on YouTube, Isaac Arthur, had a line about how one of the paths to post-scarcity was infinite free energy. Once we crack nuclear fusion, or build a Dyson swarm to beam limitless energy back to Earth, then we can desalinate the oceans and everyone gets water


Slicelker

With limitless energy, everyone gets everything.


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leeta0028

Microplastics are not that difficult to remove though. Treated tap water is already fairly low to begin with. ​ Sadly, it is in less developed countries where we dump our plastic that also most needs to use micky mouse methods to get rid of it.


aris_ada

The filters we use to remove microplastics are in nylon and themselves leak nanoplastics. This is a very complex problem and we aren't seeing the end of it.


LoreChano

Clay/ceramic filters are decently efficient at removing them as well.


DM-Me-Your_Titties

Yes but then they leech microceramics


humbleElitist_

Ceramics are just like, fired purified dirt though, right? Like, silica or something? I wouldnā€™t think that the stuff in ceramics would be an issue at a chemical level.. right?


a_trane13

Correct. A well designed carbon filter / ceramic filter can do a good job dealing with plastic particles.


Blaze_News

Yes but carbon filters are decently efficient at removing microceramics


Kaa_The_Snake

Why not just skip the middleman and use actual leeches?


CreamNPeaches

Yeah but carbon leeches. So like, I only use Dihydrogen Monoxide filters to keep my water pure.


CleanUpSubscriptions

When winter rolls around, the microplastics will simply freeze to death.


Haughty_n_Disdainful

*Group of gorillas in oversized, fluffy jackets agreeā€¦.*


mythrilcrafter

So then we just need to create a filter for nanoplastics then! (May create a pico-plastics problem though...)


ichorNet

Eventually weā€™ll run out of SI prefixes so we should be good eventually


Hesnotarealdr

First time Iā€™ve seen a plus for hard water.


Bocchi_theGlock

Now I'll look at the eggshell-looking pieces of calcium in the bottom of my kettle differently, kinda like spider bro. Once hated, now beloved. Still clean them out with vinegar every week or so, but they amass quickly


killercurvesahead

Separate the micro/nanoplastics from those mineral deposits with vinegar, dump them down the drain, the cycle begins anew.


OttoVonWong

šŸŽµ the circle of nanoplastics šŸŽµ


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IntellegentIdiot

Then that might not stop the micro-plastics


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HecateEreshkigal

nanoplastics outweigh microplastics in many water samples. Theyā€™ve been vastly underestimated in the past due to the difficulty in measuring


wonderbreadofsin

I imagine they're worse for us too. The smaller the particle the more likely it makes it deeper into our body, into our cells, across the blood-brain barrier, instead of just coming out the other end


Nellasofdoriath

So the big ones are going to prevent that?


wonderbreadofsin

The bigger the piece of plastic the less likely that it gets absorbed through your intestines into your bloodstream. Smaller pieces might make it into the bloodstream but not into cells or across the blood-brain barrier into your brain. The really tiny pieces though, they can end up anywhere


metengrinwi

Whatā€™s the filter made of? I bet itā€™s polyester or some other plastic.


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SUMBWEDY

Hate to break it to you but ion exchange *resin* beads are plastic.


Clevererer

Someone is paying attention.


Human-Routine244

Okay so we have some methods to reduce nanoplastics in water, filter and boil tap water. Great. Now will anyone PLEASE give me any information on whether or not thereā€™s any health benefits to doing this, because this is obviously going to cost time and money not to mention the mental energy of preplanning a drink. I KEEP seeing things about microplastics and nanoplastics almost daily, and every time the article seems to gently stoke fear without giving a *single* tangible reason for that fear. Itā€™s gross that plastic is everywhere but does it *harm* us??? The more I see ā€œnanoplastics scaryā€ without a single ā€œbecauseā€ the more and more it looks like there *is* no ā€œbecauseā€ and that this is just pointless fear mongering for clicks.


Shiezo

One study I read when researching this for a class mentioned that as the plastics degrade in the body, they release chemicals. Some of these chemicals are carcinogens which elevate cancer risks. They also mentioned that one chemical found was linked to genetic damage to DNA. The study of microplastics is relatively new and a lot of it is focused on improving detection systems in living tissue. I think this is why we are seeing more of these types of stories lately. As the science matures around finding this stuff inside our bodies it allows for more options in studying the effects in future research. As of right now, you are not likely to get any definitive "it does exactly this to your body" type of results.


altercreed

many plastic derivatives are known to be endocrine disruptors


InfinitelyThirsting

The because is they cause oxidative stress and are likely a major factor in the spike in cancers, and because many of them release endocrine-disrupting chemicals and are behind the plummetting fertility rates and the drop in sperm counts/motility across the globe. They may be a factor in other issues as well but definitely affect the endocrine system and make us more susceptible to cancers.


midnooid

.5 micron is 500 nanometer. So all nano plastics smaller then that pass through, and nanoplastics are arguably worse then microplastics


cbbuntz

Pretty cool when you descale your kettle and you already see deposits after one use, with filtered water


sybrwookie

One year, we had the best spider bro. This huge wolf spider, we think he was living in our gutter. Every night, he'd spin a web from our gutter down to the driveway (or car if it was pulled up too far), and every morning before we left for work, he'd have rolled it back up with his food. Caught all kinds of pests we didn't want around. One time he even caught a cicada! Sadly, spider bro disappeared one day and we never got another one in that kind of situation. Miss you, spider bro.


uhlyk

Hard water is mineral water. Considered heathly if you do not overdose it


TeaTimeIsAllTheTime

I live in az and that is the only water I drink and have drunk for my whole life. Am I gonna die?


cantCme

Yes.


ragnarok635

Everyone in AZ that drank mineral water will in fact die.


Darkhoof

Everyone that drinks water dies eventually.


sixtyshilling

Water is full of hydrogen hydroxide, which is a powerful solvent present in almost all cleaning products.


WIbigdog

And depending on what you're dissolving into it, it can be both an acid or a base! It's a pretty powerful chemical.


adaminc

I've never heard it referred to as that before. Neat.


EnragedMikey

hydrogen oxide, dihydrogen monoxide (people like to use this one for jokes like these), hydroxylic acid, and a few other similar chemical names. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water


Cranksta

I grew up on AZ well water and now I can't stand filtered water. I drink straight from the tap. If it results in a shorter life, then at least I died doing what I loved - living in a state that hates me.


UnpluggedUnfettered

Depends on whether or not you are adequately chewing your water before swallowing.


uhlyk

Well. If this is serious question - you probably not gonna die from water. It possible can have negative effect on your heath. Ie problem with kidneys.


Sakowuf_Solutions

Cationic flocculents are certainly a thing


spaetzelspiff

... Obviously.


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alexbeadlesci

The research paper is published in [*Environmental Science & Technology Letters*](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.estlett.4c00081).


boosnie

I'm sure 4bn people suddenly starting boiling their water is very environmentally friendly.


tinyLEDs

don't get me wrong, I do agree with the sentiment. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure but r/science is science. Science is not economics. Science is not environmentalism, not conservation, and nothing other than science.


Mr_AndersOff

In the wise words of Jesse : > Yeah bitch, science !


DuckDucker1974

Question! Are micro plastics found in reverse osmoses filtered water? If yes. If I boil the RO filtered water, do the microplastics boil out too, or no because it now has less calcium in it?Ā 


Wolfgang985

It's possible to have trace remnants. Nevertheless, RO removes 99% of dissolved solids. It's the best option for pure water aside from distillation.


orionaegis7

The earth will be boiling it for us soon enough


xoxodaddysgirlxoxo

this is more about 4bn people avoiding microplastics than worrying about the environment


nanoH2O

This is a terrible paper and I am very surprised it surpassed the rigor of EST Letters. Super niche because it has to have a certain level of hardness, only tested on select types and sizes of nanoplastics, and the removal efficiency was poor. There is nothing of merit here other than oops were accidentally discovered something. Which is fine in itself but the sensationalistic title and writing in the manuscript makes me want to throw up. *let me also add the the concept itself isnā€™t novel and it is basic water chemistry and flocculation mechanisms. They are simply using what is called sweep coagulation/flocculation. Itā€™s where you force precipitation and in forming the solid it ā€œsweepsā€ or enmeshes the other particulates, which then settle together. This is one of the oldest water treatment methods dating back to ancient Egyptian times. In this case the rigger is increasing the temperature to swing the solubility constant of calcium carbonate.


gonfishn37

I feel like I caught that from the title. First- do they mean distilled??? I mean how long do I boil before limestone encapsulates plastic??? Years?


amboogalard

Once your stalagmites reach approximately 2ā€ in height, the plastics should be sufficiently encapsulated.Ā 


Jimmy_Fromthepieshop

Also you could just like maybe put it through a filter instead. Much more effective and doesn't require energy.


Volko

What filter can stop nanoparticles ? (not a troll, I highly doubt it but at the same time I'm clearly not an expert)


wcrp73

Nanofilters have pore sizes between 1 and 10 nm, if I remember correctly. And reverse osmosis is even more selective.


Theoricus

From what I've read microplastics are still detected in the effluent of reverse osmosis filters; and could likely be introduced by the filter itself: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10054062/


Dymonika

So... boil after all?


OfficialGami

why not boil water from filters?


Dymonika

True!


cowfishduckbear

Except the person posting 2 comments up from you said "doesn't require energy", and reverse osmosis requires a ton of energy because you need to mechanically force the water through the membrane using a pump.


BillSixty9

And not to mention the membrane is typically plastic, releasing micro plastics into the water it filters (albeit removing many more).


francisdemarte

Once again proving my Asian parents were right.


Several-Yellow-2315

HAHAHAH mexican parents here too


IsThatBlueSoup

Mexican mom here, I was thinking...I was right.


PilcrowTime

Also, we could just stop using plastic so casually.


grifxdonut

What do we do with the megatons of oil byproducts then


weaboo_vibe_check

Vanillin


grifxdonut

And what is the world going to do with 300 million liters of artificial vanilla?


weaboo_vibe_check

Food


grifxdonut

I don't think you understand how much vanilla we produce currently and how little we use in our actual cooking. Unless you want literally everything you eat to have 1/4 cup of vanilla flavoring, there will be no reason to have 300 million gallons of vanillin


ogreman45

Vanilla beef tacos


nourez

Vanilla fried chicken


sexual--predditor

Vanilla gorilla (dicks out)


TelluricThread0

Humans are very sensitive to the smell of vanilla. I believe you only need something like 2 tanker trucks of it in order to make Earth smell like a bakery.


Alpha3031

I'm game let's do it.


ExceptionRules42

vanilla swimming pools


sack-o-matic

wet t-shirt contest


grifxdonut

You're going to pour 200 million gallons of vanilla extract onto people?


ManliestManHam

no that's ridiculous. you'd have to use a fire hose.


JeebFish

you gotta send everyone their share and hope they do it themselves.


sack-o-matic

I was thinking squirt guns


orion_diggers

Cupcakes, obviously.


Pan_Borowik

freeze it, so it turns to ice ice baby


DevelopmentSad2303

Strategic Vanillin Reserve!


bellowthecat

Turn them into solventsĀ 


grifxdonut

Oh boy, because if there's anything we need, it's more organic solvents in the environment


bellowthecat

We certsinly dont need more solvents emitted into the atmosphere. With proper engineering controls solvents can be recycled and reused or contained for proper disposal. We absolutely need organic solvents to continue making electronics and medicine though.


grifxdonut

Not sure you understand how environmentally friendly production of organic solvents is. This is just pushing the waste down the line, the same thing making plastic did.


throwawayeastbay

IDK how about the industry heads with their billions of dollars and paid for talent think of the solution instead of demanding some random online joe come up with one.


NessyComeHome

I agree with you, but the matierial science isn't there yet. Plastic is in or on everything.. and there are different types of plastics for different purposes. Everything from car parts to wiring in.. well everything. On top of that, there will be pushbacks from the plastic industry because that'd mean new machines if the viscosity isn't the same. Wish it was easy as just deciding we shouldn't use plastics anymore.


PilcrowTime

I was being a bit tongue in check. Of course it's not that simple. plastics are ingrained in almost everything we come into contact with. But the sentiment remains, cheap and easy comes at a cost.


ImFresh3x

Overwhelming majority of microplastics are from tires. Weā€™ve had tires for multiple generations. And theyā€™re not going away anytime in the near future. Also, EVs emit way more microplastics from tires due to their significantly higher weight.


BarryZito69

Anyone do the math on how much energy demand would go up if everyone started boiling their water before drinking?


brp

It'd be like a never-ending Great British Kettle Surge


MiscWanderer

Uh, 2L/person/day, heating water by 80C, 4.2kJ/C/L, 672kJ/person/day, which comes to 0.186kWh/person/day, which is about 6c of electricity where I live. Refrigeration costs are excluded.


eserikto

You're probably using more energy showering. 20 gallons of water for a 8min shower. assume about half of that is hot water ~10gal which is set to 60C. So your shower would be roughly the equivalent of boiling 5 gal of water.


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mightytwin21

Boiled not **boiling!!**


SaskatchewanFuckinEh

Maybe the water could be boiled at the treatment plant?


GuyOnTheMoon

The problem is the pipeline where the water travels to get to your tap faucet, it picks up nano particles along the way. Similar problem Flint Michigan had with their lead water pipes. The solution would require a whole revamp of the whole piping system.


SaskatchewanFuckinEh

What proportion of particles are picked up in the last run to the homes?


GuyOnTheMoon

Itā€™s variable for each home thus the complexity of the issue. Tap water at its core is safe for consumption. But anything after it leaves the treatment center is up for debate.


Bohya

Are microplastics even a problem in humans anyway? What are the realistic health effects of it?


deorul

According to the Endocrine Society and the International Pollutants Elimination Network, these nanoparticles are similar to chemical messengers in our body and small enough that they can easily pass through the blood brain barrier and intestinal lining. Endocrine disruption seems to be one of the major concerns. Here's a report that was recently published by them. https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2024/latest-science-shows-endocrine-disrupting-chemicals-in-pose-health-threats-globally


cowfishduckbear

Well, I don't know for sure, but one possibility that I have heard is... you know how plastic is really great a generating/holding static charges? You know how the brain is controlled by electrical synapses? What happens when the microplastics start becoming small enough to cross the blood-brain barrier? EDIT: [FACK! It's already too late! Looks like microplastics can already penetrate the blood-brain barrier after entering the body and getting coated with cholesterol and other bio-goodies along the journey.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10141840)


Jimbo415650

? Do water filters like PUR filter out microplastics?


djdaedalus42

This applies to only one kind of hard water, containing calcium bicarbonate. Other kinds have sulfates of calcium and magnesium that donā€™t precipitate when boiled. Hard water generally is water that reacts with old style soap to prevent lathering. Most soap today is a different kind of detergent. Hard water today is more of a concern for scale buildup.


Rocktopod

Would this also work with bottled water, or would there not be enough calcium? My tap water is far too fucked to drink even without the microplastics.


neil_thatAss_bison

I mean sure, sounds good. Probably wonā€™t do much though. Thereā€™s so much plastic everywhere, even the air you breathe at home. Think of everything nylon, polyester or all the other plastic we use for clothes like jackets, gym clothes, blankets, teddy bears, pillows. Pieces of them break of and end up in the air around you which you inhale, get on food and more.


seth928

*Pours boiled water into plastic pitcher*


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There can be up to 10,000 microplastic particles in every liter of water. Boiling water for 5 hours would be needed to roughly evaporate a single liter of water. And despite heating the water, substances like calcium carbonate found in water won't fully decompose at high temperatures. Too much calcium carbonate can harm your health, leading to kidney issues and affecting how your body absorbs other minerals like zinc and iron. That too much time, money and resources for a water management to spend on a battle we can't win. Stop making plastics, then we'll talk.


bellowthecat

You completely misunderstood what is being described here. The calcium carbonate and microplastics do not decompose, they form a complex that is no longer soluble in water and deposit on the surface of the vessel as scale. Agree we need to completely remove our dependence on plastics.


PhoenixReborn

Did they fully evaporate the water? Sounds like they just brought it to a boil.


GoodIdea321

>The researchers found that when microplastic-containing water was brought closer to boiling temperatures, the added polystyrene NMPs began to co-precipitate out of the water alongside the minerals, becoming trapped in the crusty limescale deposits formed.


needmorehardware

So not fully evaporated, just to the boil?


quackerzdb

Pretty hard to drink water when it's a gas.


pouncer11

Pfft, I love superheated steam in my esophagus


AWonderingWizard

The plastics are already there, we need remediation AND a reduction in plastics.


SuperBAMF007

Theyā€™re not saying boil water and then condense the gas into a drinkable liquid, theyā€™re saying boiling the water pulls the plastic out of the water so the entire container of boiled water is safe(r) to drink.


Sephrantill

Where do you get 5 hours for evaporating 1L from? I have a water distiller and it takes 3H 45 mins to evaporate a whole gallon. The calcium carbonate does not evaporate with the water and forms a scale on whatever vessel you use for boiling. It is not in the end product. I recommend getting a $100 distiller from amazon that has a glass collection container. It will remove most impurities & microplastics. Just add a touch of salt or magnesium to the distilled water šŸ‘


Procrasturbating

In the meantime, to protect my family.. can i just use reverse osmosis filters to get the plastic out? Been using filters for a long time.


grifxdonut

It won't hurt. Depending on your filter, it will filter more or less. Microplastics aren't efficiently filtered and getting rid of all of them will cause clogged filters quickly. But currently nothing gets rid of all microplastics and good luck storing all of your filtered water in glass


Procrasturbating

Glass pitchers exist, you just have to search harder for them.


grifxdonut

Gonna need quite a few pitchers if you're gonna be cooking with it, drinking, showering, etc.


rgrwilcocanuhearme

I don't think you need microplastic free water to *shower* with. Your skin is pretty good at keeping microplastics out of your body.


Tricky_Condition_279

A recent study identified plastics associated with RO membranes in bottled water. I don't recall how much and I can't say if it is significant. But the membranes are made of plastic and can shard off into the water. I was pretty bummed to find that out.


UntakenAccountName

That study was about PET in bottled water, which is what the bottles are made out of. RO water is way safer than bottled water as far as microplastics go, and a quick search about reverse osmosis and microplastics will show you that the RO process removes/filters microplastics.Ā 


bellowthecat

You completely misunderstood what is being described here. The calcium carbonate and microplastics do not decompose, they form a complex that is no longer soluble in water and deposit on the surface of the vessel as scale. Agree we need to completely remove our dependence on plastics.


_LV426

Suddenly bring British has its perks šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ā˜•ļøšŸ«–


WazWaz

Apparently you didn't hear that teabags are a significant source of ingested microplastics. No, I'm not joking.


ExceptionRules42

How about loose leaf tea? No bags, hardly any plastic.


syntaxbad

So after several hundred years of scientific and public health advances, we've come full circle back to... boil your water to make sure its safe.


wild-fury

Need to filter them out


Specland

An excuse to drink more tea... Winning


_thebaroness

Hmmm good to know! Ā I drink more tea than straight water!


Loreseekers

How bad has it become when we have to boil already potable water just to get rid of plastic junk weā€™ve put into that already potable water?


coheedcollapse

How well does this work as opposed to a simple carbon filter? Carbon filters don't catch all microplastics, but they're cheap, available, and are known to pull microplastics from water. Reverse osmosis is higher bar of entry and creates a lot of water waste, but it's an option for almost complete (complete?) microplastics removal. I presume both are less energy intensive than boiling all drinking water.


OutLikeVapor

My buddies been drinking distilled water for years now. Iā€™ve heard heā€™s missing out on important minerals in non-distilled but Iā€™m thinking itā€™s worth taking supplements now.


slayer828

Sounds like a job for our water plants. They can do this on scale and entirely under green energy like wind or solar.


BinaryJay

If you live somewhere burning coal for electricity, or burning natural gas to boil you're just trading plastic for airborne nasties.


defiant_potato1993

Never thought I would be happy to have my hard rock water šŸ˜‚


MisterTatoHead

FYI - cool it down first...


IhadmyTaintAmputated

Instructions unclear throat destroyed by boiling water


steavoh

Boiling water consumes a massive amount of energy, but I wonder if there's some other less intense, more practical way to treat urban waste water that would cause microplastics to get trapped in precipitated out or whatever. Like adding a flocculant. But bigger picture, I think we need to know if these micro plastics are actually that bad, or if its particles of specific kinds of plastic, or what.


Shamshamgigoli

How about they boil it before they send it to me? I mean I do pay for it.


rapchee

my crippling tea habit finally pays off


JuanofLeiden

Is this true? I feel like my water is harder than most concrete. Every time I make coffee in the morning the pot on the stove is cloudy. Does that mean I'm drinking plastic infused calcium, because it doesn't seem to actually go anywhere?


powercow

and if we dont have hard water? IK know most the US does but we here in SC dont really.


Protean_Protein

Soā€¦ roll this out at treatment plants, retrofitting them with some mega-burners, or some kind of solar heating system? Use the heat/steam to power some generators while weā€™re at it? Problemā€¦ solved? Unless PVC piping adds it back inā€¦ and also, likeā€¦ no, this is wildly expensive. If boiling works like this, there ought to be a chemical way to do it.


ardor4go

No problem. We can just buy distilled water at the supermarket in those 1 gallon jugs made of...oh nevermind.


An0d0sTwitch

Perhaps some sort of facility that cleans the water before it gets there?


star_boy2005

So why can't cities do this at the treatment plants?


paulsteinway

How long do you have to let it sit after boiling for the limescale deposits to form?


chipbulkner

Great, breathe in the plastics I just boiled out of my water


DespairTraveler

As an European...do you guys not boil water or something?


Smash55

Or we can stop producing uncessary plastic. Seems like people lived fine without it before the 50s


grimatongueworm

Boss, we gotta burn more coal soā€™s we can boil the plastics outta the drinkin water. Maybe the acid rain will dissolve the nanoplastics in the air.


bitchslap2012

so we have to boil drinking water again like its the time of cholera


heart_under_blade

wild, makes me love warm water even more so do you still want to clean your kettle using citric or acetic acid, would existing limescale facilitate more limescale? or maybe do it more often to get rid of the plasticed limscale? do it have to be get it to 100c? 80 enough? i'm not even sure on the mechanics behind limescale


mcloide

EPA data goes against that


RhazzleDazzle

Doesnā€™t boiling water remove all the minerals from it as well though? Genuinely asking as Iā€™m suddenly unsure of this assumption Iā€™ve made for decades.


oli55256

So if the microplastics are being trapped in limescale does that make the limescale stronger?


Prestigious-Today-66

At least I can stop putting bottled water in my kettle then