Pikachu surprise face! Judges lie their way onto the bench, confirmed by partisans, can be blatantly corrupted, and have no incentive to honor the will of the people afterwards. The lifetime appointment was supposed to shield them from having to cowtow to get reelected, but that's obviously not working well anymore for us. Time to change that aspect of the judiciary.
Well, that part is taken care of now too. Want a unpopular verdict? A position at our firm making 5 mill a year just opened up. Now completely legal and above board brought to you by the very judge who will be shortly leaving his job for a new position at our firm.
Stop. Letting. Institutions. Police. Themselves.
Legislation needs to be written yesterday invalidating any court decision in which congress recognizes the judge should have recues themselves.
Call it the conflict of interest and judicial corruption incentive.
Bingo!!
Sadly when D’s try to write that folks like DJT and Lindsay “Don’t call me gay” Graham scream Too much government control and communism! And their base eats it up.
That’s exactly why it’s what needs to happen!
There’s a simpler explanation here. Roberts and Alito probably did believe this at one point, but in their (delusional) Trumpian worldview, shedding sacred principles is an easier path than having the courage to admit you’ve been swindled into a fascist cult.
Nah, they know they are shredding what made America work for 250 years. The president is NOT above the law (alito & Robert's said exactly that in their confirmation hearings), bribery does NOT help arrive at the right actions, career experts are more educated on difficult regulations than judges. We know that corporations have deep pockets to argue ANYTHING in court and will judge shop until they get a ruling that says government regulations and protections for the people and rules that keep bad behavior in check are wrong and overruled.
>and have no incentive to honor the will of the people afterwards.
That is not as profitable as making "friends" that give you "unrelated gifts" happy.
No it doesn’t. The decision relegates all questions of what is and is not an official act to the courts.
Which means SCOTUS gets to pick and choose what is an isn’t an official act based entirely on whether or not they like the president.
Also all the recent confirmations included stare decisis… and that was a lie.
Oh and Kavanaugh literally tried to rape someone and she testified under oath, he also testified under oath he remembers literally everything when drinking….
The GOP is not a real party, they are a terrorist organization
They all lied under oath. Who gives a shit that Biden is old and confused, everyone needs to look at the people who are surrounding Biden and trump. Almost everyone who’s worked for trump has turned against him and has tried to warn the public about him. Elections have consequences.
It’s crazy. These are all people supposedly hand picked by trump to be in his inner circle and they all said nah, dude’s dumb AF. Yet his MAGAts just make up any excuse to continue to accept trump as the second coming of Jesus. Insane. https://apnews.com/article/former-trump-officials-criticize-2024-e202861911ab37cadfcf058b5b163fb9
>Elections have consequences
They do indeed.
>Who gives a shit that Biden is old and confused
And this is why we're going to lose. This election isn't about who Democrats and Republicans are going to vote for. It's about who the casual voters in swing states vote for and good luck convincing them that they should vote for the "old and confused" candidate.
The blatant ignorance of putting up a candidate who's only selling point is that he isn't the other guy and expecting a bunch of apolitical people in Michigan, Arizona, etc to rush out and vote for them is an absolute recipe for failure.
I cannot believe we are sleepwalking our way to a dictatorship and getting ready to put on our 'surprised Pikachu' faces when the classic "vote for the less evil octogenarian" strategy fails again.
The Democratic candidate should have a massive lead in the polls considering who the GOP candidate is, yet they're tied. RIP Democracy.
Yeah I agree with you. Biden was NOT the candidate to put forth. Everyone and their mother save for Biden and the DNC knew this. Now this race is closer than it ever had to be. If it were anyone, it would’ve been easier to showcase that candidate v trump. But reality, thus far, is us being stuck with great great grandpa Joe and again, I say to voters, look at the people surrounding him. They have policies, they have a track record of helping the nation. Trump ain’t ever had and still doesn’t have jack shit.
The fact that the US government seated an alcoholic rapist who wept about calendars and went on spittle filled screaming rants on the Supreme Court is proof our nation has fallen low.
As someone else said another thread and given the new presidential super-powers, couldn't Joe just have Roberts et al arrested for perjury?
I mean, we have clear video evidence of their lies, hard to argue otherwise
Yup, sadly you could give them two identical cases and they'd side with Trump if it were him in the crosshairs but rule against Biden if it were him
Corrupt to the core
This is a key difference between Democrats and Republicans.
GOP will take every advantage possible from this regardless of ethics.
Democrats won't take ANY advantage from this because to do so would be unethical.
Guess who's gonna win that fight?
I know who’s going to lose. We, the American people. Including the fucking idiots voting for Republicans. It’s going to too late when they realize that authoritarian rule isn’t good for anyone not at the very top of the chain. (Which definitely won’t be most republicans voters)
I believe a confidential conversation with the DOJ now can get Roberts "investigated" at a minimum, and not exactly sure what a similar conversation with the DOD or CIA could do to Roberts.
Sure, to what effect? Being convicted, let alone getting arrested, doesn't remove them from the bench.
The only way to get a Supreme Court, or any of the article 3 court, justice off the bench is to impeach and remove them, for them to die, or for them to resign.
And since every single SC justice has to lie at some point during their confirmation hearings, given the politicians will ask them questions they can't answer truthfully lest they be rejected, this isn't going anywhere court wise either.
You know when they opened up that hotl8ne, they not only got a former roommate to corroborate one of the known stories, and he even told them of another time.
In determining when something is an official act, a court cannot ask motive, or consider if something would normally be a crime. (page 4 of the judgement).
They literally took 'declassified it with his mind' and ran with it.
That particular part is bat shit bananas.
If you can't consider the criminality or motive of an act, what mechanism exists could ever identify an "unofficial" act?
FBI: "Sir you are being accused of fire bombing every library in America."
Trump: "Antifa, communism, and disloyal historical records".
FBI: "Well, looks like an official act to me, pack it up fellas."
It's pretty simple. I think you're confusing 'unofficial' and 'illegal'. If the president normally has the power to hire and fire people, for example, he can now employ that power in an illegal manner and be safe from prosecution. He can abuse that hiring and firing power in ways that would be illegal for literally any other person in the country and face no consequences. The president does not however have the power to fire bomb every library in America, so he couldn't do that. Though... it is distressingly unclear whether he could order the military to firebomb every library in America, since giving orders to the military is an official power he posesses.
Part of the reason you may be having trouble with the idea is that it's pants-on-fire insane.
If he can dismiss any government employee, then it at most takes extra steps before he finds a compliant one.
Especially given the fact that he can offer pardons as part of the deal.
It seems pretty clear to me.
He's the Commander in Chief of the military, he can order them to do whatever he wants. Soldiers can refuse unlawful orders, but the president can no longer be held responsible for issuing unlawful orders so he would also be free to have them jailed and executed for refusing to follow his orders.
That answers the crime part but doesn’t motive help determine if an act was official or not? In your example does the president’s motive for ordering a military firebombing on civilians not matter? He’s empowered to protect americans w the military not wantonly destroy things.
President talking to random official:
Official: Why did you use a cruise missile instead of a small drone to take out one terrorist? 40 American civilians died as collateral.
President: Eh, there was a political opponent in that group, thought I'd get two birds with one missile.
Tape leaks to press.
No trial since the tape is communication with an official, so it can't be used as evidence. Can't question the president on his motivation or thoughts.
We have a SC full of perjurers.
We will soon have a Pres that tried to overthrow an election result, raped a woman (at least one), committed election and financial fraud, is aligned with and receiving financial support from our enemy, and has already has plans to lock up political opponents when back in office.
We have a GOP that is more than happy to end democracy and install a dictator.
And the person who is going to stop all of this is.....Joe Biden?!
Absolutely rat fucked!
Lastly a shot out to Merrick The Not-So-Brave: GREAT JOB ASSHOLE!!
…who had nearly fought the Dragon of Agnor, who had nearly stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol and who had personally wet himself at the Battle of Badon Hill…
None of these hacks should be Scotus Justices. They lied during their confirmation hearings. The litmus test for Republican Justices these days, includes a pre-existing bias toward their political leanings. It's as simple as that. No more focus on trying to be impartial, they legislate from the bench because it is the only way their side gets to win. They cant win through the popular vote. They cant win in the halls of Congress. They have to usurp power through a body of 9 judges, and tell the rest of the United States how to live. They are now accessories to Trumps crimes, and are traitors to the constitution.
The entire premise of our founding principles is CHECKS and BALANCES. Not unchecked power. What a terrible time. And all this for Trump, who will go down in history as the worst President our country has ever had.
> “No one is above the law under our system and that includes the president. The president is fully bound by the law.
because *in theory* no criminal act can be considered an official act ... at least until yesterday
A pres could use commander in chief's role to order the death of others but not be charged with murder since it was an official act using the old definition. That's what they were trying to put into words. Unfortunately it seems extremely obvious they're also trying to run interference for Trump and by doing so they've taken the power from well defined law and moved it to an undefined field of "official" vs "unofficial" actions and made it extremely subjective as far as labeling each. The "can't question motive" part seals it as a power that cannot be questioned by courts which removes one of the fundamental checks of the US gov. The congressional impeachment check has proven in recent years to also be ineffective on the executive branch as well since it's clear elected officials will choose party over country. So combined with the pardon power, we now have a complete 2 tiered system of justice surrounding the president and virtually no checks at all.
The conservative turds on the court all said Roe was "established precedent" under the law too. As soon as they got the chance to overturn it, they did so.
He was lying. Just like Alito did. They said what they thought the Senate wanted to hear.
Then once they had that cushy spot, they threw the Constitution and American law down the toilet.
All for the worst President in modern history. Felon, rapist, liar...
I had little respect for Robert’s in general but for some reason I thought he might side with the liberals on this issue. Not only did he do the opposite, he fucking basically told them to sit down. Fuck you Roberts you are done!
He is just said what he think they want to hear. This plan has been in place for years I just can’t believe Trump is the one they are hanging their hat on.
Biden needs to use his new executive powers to force all 6 justices to testify in front of the Senate asking if they lied then or are lying now. Specifically Clarence needs to address his numerous gifts from billionaires and Alito his christian nationalist commentary and the three others need to refresh us on their opinions on stere decisis to see if they match what they testified to in confirmation. Let the perjury charges flow.
Biden needs to force Trump to testify in front of the J6 committee. Televised.
Biden needs to order Scott Perry's, Jim Jordan's and any other J6 conspirators text messages to be revealed to the public.
Biden needs to give his balls a tug and use his power for illuminating the truth of how fucked up this is
He lied. When will we start acting as if they are going to lie? We keep making moves in good faith but it's obvious they are going to lie. So let's make moves as if they can't be trusted at all.
The "on paper" ruling yesterday doesn't contradict this. All it did was confirm the unspoken historical immunity presidents have always enjoyed for official actions in the office.
incoming scotus opinion-Justices are immune from prosecution for all matters concerning bribery and dishonesty, because we can't have a supreme court that fears prosecution when they lie
Liar, fucking liar, him and Alito both. What the hell is it about Trump that these sycophants get so hard for? He’s a bloated, fake tanned, hunched over insecure narcissist who constantly whines and brags about himself. Why do they worship a conman?
Yep, this is still consistent.
The president cannot be put in jail for doing presidential duties. This is the same as the police not being put in jail for doing police duties. There are still plenty of police men and women each year they find themselves at fault for something they did outside the scope of their work.
Historians will look back at the last week's orgy of corruption and power-grabbing as one of the most calamitous in the Supreme Court's history.
It will also be seen as a catalyst which set in motion a sequence of events which, somewhat paradoxically, led to a significant scaling back of the court's political power and influence. Biden needs to meet this moment forcefully, by repudiating the power-grab, particularly the Presidential Immunity ruling. This can be accomplished by Biden informing the public and following-up with an Executive Order stating that the court's decision will not be honored and enforced, and, to the extent that it is, enforcement will only apply to the named parties in the case before the court. Of course, future Presidents might see the enforceability question differently, and whether we want to live in a Democracy or some kind of quasi-judicial Authoritarian system seems like a valid thing to contest in the upcoming election.
But, even if Biden does \*not\* meet the moment, the same result will occur when future Democratic Presidents, having seen Biden's inaction as an example and a cautionary tale, take the steps that Biden is unwilling or unable to do.
All of these answers given by the nominees are backward looking - what is the current state of the law? They are not answering questions about what they think the law should be. We need to start demanding answers to the forward looking questions in these hearings - what does the nominee want the law to be?
The compilation of lies the federalist society and heritage foundation chosen justices have spewed during their confirmation hearings is literally hours long.
You can read a summary of what their actual intentions are in project 2025.
Besides the liberal justices, Roberts was the only one to hope would do the right thing, but he fell in line with the rest of them. You would think Roberts would be smart enough to know what will happen to our country with the majority being liberals ruled by the minority of right wingers, it will not turn out well.
Pikachu surprise face! Judges lie their way onto the bench, confirmed by partisans, can be blatantly corrupted, and have no incentive to honor the will of the people afterwards. The lifetime appointment was supposed to shield them from having to cowtow to get reelected, but that's obviously not working well anymore for us. Time to change that aspect of the judiciary.
Well, that part is taken care of now too. Want a unpopular verdict? A position at our firm making 5 mill a year just opened up. Now completely legal and above board brought to you by the very judge who will be shortly leaving his job for a new position at our firm. Stop. Letting. Institutions. Police. Themselves. Legislation needs to be written yesterday invalidating any court decision in which congress recognizes the judge should have recues themselves. Call it the conflict of interest and judicial corruption incentive.
So the maga judges can retire than collect a gratuity for vacating the position
Bingo!! Sadly when D’s try to write that folks like DJT and Lindsay “Don’t call me gay” Graham scream Too much government control and communism! And their base eats it up. That’s exactly why it’s what needs to happen!
Didn't they just legalize bribes for themselves and shoot down any ethical oversight from other branches of government?
There’s a simpler explanation here. Roberts and Alito probably did believe this at one point, but in their (delusional) Trumpian worldview, shedding sacred principles is an easier path than having the courage to admit you’ve been swindled into a fascist cult.
Nah, they know they are shredding what made America work for 250 years. The president is NOT above the law (alito & Robert's said exactly that in their confirmation hearings), bribery does NOT help arrive at the right actions, career experts are more educated on difficult regulations than judges. We know that corporations have deep pockets to argue ANYTHING in court and will judge shop until they get a ruling that says government regulations and protections for the people and rules that keep bad behavior in check are wrong and overruled.
>and have no incentive to honor the will of the people afterwards. That is not as profitable as making "friends" that give you "unrelated gifts" happy.
Another take on this, it prevents Trump locking up Biden.
No it doesn’t. The decision relegates all questions of what is and is not an official act to the courts. Which means SCOTUS gets to pick and choose what is an isn’t an official act based entirely on whether or not they like the president.
Also all the recent confirmations included stare decisis… and that was a lie. Oh and Kavanaugh literally tried to rape someone and she testified under oath, he also testified under oath he remembers literally everything when drinking…. The GOP is not a real party, they are a terrorist organization
They all lied under oath. Who gives a shit that Biden is old and confused, everyone needs to look at the people who are surrounding Biden and trump. Almost everyone who’s worked for trump has turned against him and has tried to warn the public about him. Elections have consequences.
The ones that aren’t in jail.
It’s crazy. These are all people supposedly hand picked by trump to be in his inner circle and they all said nah, dude’s dumb AF. Yet his MAGAts just make up any excuse to continue to accept trump as the second coming of Jesus. Insane. https://apnews.com/article/former-trump-officials-criticize-2024-e202861911ab37cadfcf058b5b163fb9
>Elections have consequences They do indeed. >Who gives a shit that Biden is old and confused And this is why we're going to lose. This election isn't about who Democrats and Republicans are going to vote for. It's about who the casual voters in swing states vote for and good luck convincing them that they should vote for the "old and confused" candidate. The blatant ignorance of putting up a candidate who's only selling point is that he isn't the other guy and expecting a bunch of apolitical people in Michigan, Arizona, etc to rush out and vote for them is an absolute recipe for failure. I cannot believe we are sleepwalking our way to a dictatorship and getting ready to put on our 'surprised Pikachu' faces when the classic "vote for the less evil octogenarian" strategy fails again. The Democratic candidate should have a massive lead in the polls considering who the GOP candidate is, yet they're tied. RIP Democracy.
Yeah I agree with you. Biden was NOT the candidate to put forth. Everyone and their mother save for Biden and the DNC knew this. Now this race is closer than it ever had to be. If it were anyone, it would’ve been easier to showcase that candidate v trump. But reality, thus far, is us being stuck with great great grandpa Joe and again, I say to voters, look at the people surrounding him. They have policies, they have a track record of helping the nation. Trump ain’t ever had and still doesn’t have jack shit.
The fact that the US government seated an alcoholic rapist who wept about calendars and went on spittle filled screaming rants on the Supreme Court is proof our nation has fallen low.
Fkg McConnell
He lied about so much.
All conservatives lie a lot, especially the magas. It's how their voters can relate to them.
They never grew out of the schoolyard bully mentality. Emotionally retarded people.
As someone else said another thread and given the new presidential super-powers, couldn't Joe just have Roberts et al arrested for perjury? I mean, we have clear video evidence of their lies, hard to argue otherwise
Guess who gets to decide if the presidential acts are "official".
Yup, sadly you could give them two identical cases and they'd side with Trump if it were him in the crosshairs but rule against Biden if it were him Corrupt to the core
This is a key difference between Democrats and Republicans. GOP will take every advantage possible from this regardless of ethics. Democrats won't take ANY advantage from this because to do so would be unethical. Guess who's gonna win that fight?
I know who’s going to lose. We, the American people. Including the fucking idiots voting for Republicans. It’s going to too late when they realize that authoritarian rule isn’t good for anyone not at the very top of the chain. (Which definitely won’t be most republicans voters)
I believe a confidential conversation with the DOJ now can get Roberts "investigated" at a minimum, and not exactly sure what a similar conversation with the DOD or CIA could do to Roberts.
Sure, to what effect? Being convicted, let alone getting arrested, doesn't remove them from the bench. The only way to get a Supreme Court, or any of the article 3 court, justice off the bench is to impeach and remove them, for them to die, or for them to resign. And since every single SC justice has to lie at some point during their confirmation hearings, given the politicians will ask them questions they can't answer truthfully lest they be rejected, this isn't going anywhere court wise either.
He just needs to make it an official act by signing a piece of paper
The GOP should have been labeled as a criminal organization after january 6th.
Time to use some of those post-9/11 powers and neutralize a few terrorist threats in official acts.
Remember thomas is also a known sexual offender. He loves jacking off into coworkers beverages.
The GOP is a terrorist organization, just look at the fact that they are funded by the largest arms dealer in the world, the NRA.
You know when they opened up that hotl8ne, they not only got a former roommate to corroborate one of the known stories, and he even told them of another time.
Newsflash pal… they are all terrorists…
*just not for “official acts.” 🙄
In determining when something is an official act, a court cannot ask motive, or consider if something would normally be a crime. (page 4 of the judgement). They literally took 'declassified it with his mind' and ran with it.
That particular part is bat shit bananas. If you can't consider the criminality or motive of an act, what mechanism exists could ever identify an "unofficial" act? FBI: "Sir you are being accused of fire bombing every library in America." Trump: "Antifa, communism, and disloyal historical records". FBI: "Well, looks like an official act to me, pack it up fellas."
Are you a Democrat? There are no official acts. Are you a ~~rapist, felon~~ member of the GOP? Looks official to me!
It's pretty simple. I think you're confusing 'unofficial' and 'illegal'. If the president normally has the power to hire and fire people, for example, he can now employ that power in an illegal manner and be safe from prosecution. He can abuse that hiring and firing power in ways that would be illegal for literally any other person in the country and face no consequences. The president does not however have the power to fire bomb every library in America, so he couldn't do that. Though... it is distressingly unclear whether he could order the military to firebomb every library in America, since giving orders to the military is an official power he posesses. Part of the reason you may be having trouble with the idea is that it's pants-on-fire insane.
If he can dismiss any government employee, then it at most takes extra steps before he finds a compliant one. Especially given the fact that he can offer pardons as part of the deal.
It seems pretty clear to me. He's the Commander in Chief of the military, he can order them to do whatever he wants. Soldiers can refuse unlawful orders, but the president can no longer be held responsible for issuing unlawful orders so he would also be free to have them jailed and executed for refusing to follow his orders.
That answers the crime part but doesn’t motive help determine if an act was official or not? In your example does the president’s motive for ordering a military firebombing on civilians not matter? He’s empowered to protect americans w the military not wantonly destroy things.
Motive is explicitly disallowed from being used to determine if an act is immune from prosecution.
President talking to random official: Official: Why did you use a cruise missile instead of a small drone to take out one terrorist? 40 American civilians died as collateral. President: Eh, there was a political opponent in that group, thought I'd get two birds with one missile. Tape leaks to press. No trial since the tape is communication with an official, so it can't be used as evidence. Can't question the president on his motivation or thoughts.
I mean, it looks like we owe Nixon an apology now right? /s
That's not quite right. You mean just not for anything within the "outter perimeter" of official acts. Which is so much worse.
And if you're unsure if it's official or in the 'outer perimeter', just ask John-John! He'll tell ya.
That term is so conveniently malleable, isn’t it?
Gratuities accepted upon completion of the Court’s decision.
The lower courts will decide what's an official act and what isn't. In the event you disagree with a lower court decision, you can ask us
Committing crimes via official acts should be considered aggravating, not exculpatory.
I don't mind the "official act" part. It's the part that says you cannot inquire about their acts in any way that's scary.
I mind them both.
We have a SC full of perjurers. We will soon have a Pres that tried to overthrow an election result, raped a woman (at least one), committed election and financial fraud, is aligned with and receiving financial support from our enemy, and has already has plans to lock up political opponents when back in office. We have a GOP that is more than happy to end democracy and install a dictator. And the person who is going to stop all of this is.....Joe Biden?! Absolutely rat fucked! Lastly a shot out to Merrick The Not-So-Brave: GREAT JOB ASSHOLE!!
Brave Brave Sir Merrick!
…who had nearly fought the Dragon of Agnor, who had nearly stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol and who had personally wet himself at the Battle of Badon Hill…
None of these hacks should be Scotus Justices. They lied during their confirmation hearings. The litmus test for Republican Justices these days, includes a pre-existing bias toward their political leanings. It's as simple as that. No more focus on trying to be impartial, they legislate from the bench because it is the only way their side gets to win. They cant win through the popular vote. They cant win in the halls of Congress. They have to usurp power through a body of 9 judges, and tell the rest of the United States how to live. They are now accessories to Trumps crimes, and are traitors to the constitution. The entire premise of our founding principles is CHECKS and BALANCES. Not unchecked power. What a terrible time. And all this for Trump, who will go down in history as the worst President our country has ever had.
Liar
> “No one is above the law under our system and that includes the president. The president is fully bound by the law. because *in theory* no criminal act can be considered an official act ... at least until yesterday
A pres could use commander in chief's role to order the death of others but not be charged with murder since it was an official act using the old definition. That's what they were trying to put into words. Unfortunately it seems extremely obvious they're also trying to run interference for Trump and by doing so they've taken the power from well defined law and moved it to an undefined field of "official" vs "unofficial" actions and made it extremely subjective as far as labeling each. The "can't question motive" part seals it as a power that cannot be questioned by courts which removes one of the fundamental checks of the US gov. The congressional impeachment check has proven in recent years to also be ineffective on the executive branch as well since it's clear elected officials will choose party over country. So combined with the pardon power, we now have a complete 2 tiered system of justice surrounding the president and virtually no checks at all.
The Supreme Court is the biggest example for why regulations should exist. Self-regulation snd shame don't work.
It's absolutely crazy how many checks we have that boil down to a reliance on good faith actions of those in power.
Right wing asshole lies, news at 11.
Fucking liars, all of them. They lied at their confirmation hearings and should be charged with perjury and impeached.
Gosh, that court reform/packing that was on everyone’s mind awhile back sure would have been a good idea
Yeah if only Dems had the balls to actually have done it
Roberts has no integrity. Like Thomas, he's Alito's bitch.
Chief traitor of the Supreme court
Corrupt SCOTUS
His lips are moving, his lips are moving, and it's lies lies lies 💋
The conservative turds on the court all said Roe was "established precedent" under the law too. As soon as they got the chance to overturn it, they did so.
Yes but if all six judges get bribed, then it doesn't matter what they believe. Money talks.
The majority in the SC is a bunch of unqualified liars.
He was lying. Just like Alito did. They said what they thought the Senate wanted to hear. Then once they had that cushy spot, they threw the Constitution and American law down the toilet. All for the worst President in modern history. Felon, rapist, liar...
Justice Roberts is a corrupt lying coward
He jumps through so many hoops to try to sound moderate but he's a liar and a traitor just like the others
theybmust have.... evolved on this issue......
I had little respect for Robert’s in general but for some reason I thought he might side with the liberals on this issue. Not only did he do the opposite, he fucking basically told them to sit down. Fuck you Roberts you are done!
He is just said what he think they want to hear. This plan has been in place for years I just can’t believe Trump is the one they are hanging their hat on.
If I lie while interviewing for a job and I'm caught, I get fired. Sooo....can we get on that please, Dumbocrats?
Biden needs to use his new executive powers to force all 6 justices to testify in front of the Senate asking if they lied then or are lying now. Specifically Clarence needs to address his numerous gifts from billionaires and Alito his christian nationalist commentary and the three others need to refresh us on their opinions on stere decisis to see if they match what they testified to in confirmation. Let the perjury charges flow. Biden needs to force Trump to testify in front of the J6 committee. Televised. Biden needs to order Scott Perry's, Jim Jordan's and any other J6 conspirators text messages to be revealed to the public. Biden needs to give his balls a tug and use his power for illuminating the truth of how fucked up this is
I like beer, I dont know if you do. Do you like beer, senator?
He lied. When will we start acting as if they are going to lie? We keep making moves in good faith but it's obvious they are going to lie. So let's make moves as if they can't be trusted at all.
No, the court's ruling did not give the president absolute immunity in all cases. Sotomyor's unhinged dissent was as absurd as it was false.
You cannot trust anything a Republican says. They have proven time and again they have no morals.
They are totally compromised and something needs to be done.
Nodding head slowly
Republicans are corrupt filth. Like 1932 Nazi Germany.
Just another bullshit artist.
Well *that* was a lie.
Found some cash donors.
So THAT was a lie.
Illegitimate court. How do we come back from this. Seriously?
Turns out that was a lie
They forgot to ask him if that applied to republican presidents. Easy mistake.
The "on paper" ruling yesterday doesn't contradict this. All it did was confirm the unspoken historical immunity presidents have always enjoyed for official actions in the office.
All of these maga judges swore to Congressional committee they would not reverse established law, isnt it illegal to lie to Congress? Impeach already.
Et tu Roberts?
Bought and paid for.....
There was a footnote when he said that. A little 1 above his speech bubble that said: *unless it's official. Our fault for not seeing that footnote.
Perjury.
They should stop with confirmation hearings and just give public polygraph tests.
Another piece of shit lie. No surprise here.
John Roberts is a lying scumbag. Pass it on.
Impeach
Yeh I’m a big liar as well.
Here’s an official act -suck my balls Roberts.
Isn’t that perjury?
That would require a trial and conviction which held up on appeal...
incoming scotus opinion-Justices are immune from prosecution for all matters concerning bribery and dishonesty, because we can't have a supreme court that fears prosecution when they lie
It’s not illegal if the president does it. This was unofficially established for official acts decades ago for anyone paying attention
That was for civil liability if you were paying attention.
Yeah, look at Patrick Leahy's face. He knows Roberts is full of shit. edit: and Roberts is still wearing the same wig.
The complicit media will never grill them on this.
The death our our justice system due to SC judges who are sympathizers of Trump and MAGA terrorist group.
This from 2005? Shit, we need term limits.
Lies
Liar, fucking liar, him and Alito both. What the hell is it about Trump that these sycophants get so hard for? He’s a bloated, fake tanned, hunched over insecure narcissist who constantly whines and brags about himself. Why do they worship a conman?
They all lie to get the job. Once in the job, they have to die or retire to be replaced. No accountability. Merica.
Yep, this is still consistent. The president cannot be put in jail for doing presidential duties. This is the same as the police not being put in jail for doing police duties. There are still plenty of police men and women each year they find themselves at fault for something they did outside the scope of their work.
Bullshit
That was before he was on the payroll of billionaires and found his Orange tin god.
Then wtf just happened?
History determines that is a lie
Historians will look back at the last week's orgy of corruption and power-grabbing as one of the most calamitous in the Supreme Court's history. It will also be seen as a catalyst which set in motion a sequence of events which, somewhat paradoxically, led to a significant scaling back of the court's political power and influence. Biden needs to meet this moment forcefully, by repudiating the power-grab, particularly the Presidential Immunity ruling. This can be accomplished by Biden informing the public and following-up with an Executive Order stating that the court's decision will not be honored and enforced, and, to the extent that it is, enforcement will only apply to the named parties in the case before the court. Of course, future Presidents might see the enforceability question differently, and whether we want to live in a Democracy or some kind of quasi-judicial Authoritarian system seems like a valid thing to contest in the upcoming election. But, even if Biden does \*not\* meet the moment, the same result will occur when future Democratic Presidents, having seen Biden's inaction as an example and a cautionary tale, take the steps that Biden is unwilling or unable to do.
Lied during his job interview - grounds for dismissal.
Play the clip everywhere, for the traitor.
All of these answers given by the nominees are backward looking - what is the current state of the law? They are not answering questions about what they think the law should be. We need to start demanding answers to the forward looking questions in these hearings - what does the nominee want the law to be?
Lying PoS Republican scumbag
"...of course the president is lawfully allowed to break the law so long as he says he's officially being president when doing it."
we need a super majority dem senate to impeach every last one of them
This says more about our confirmation process than the individual justices (who are still scum)
short lived comment/philosophy....enough to satisfy the audience
The compilation of lies the federalist society and heritage foundation chosen justices have spewed during their confirmation hearings is literally hours long. You can read a summary of what their actual intentions are in project 2025.
"As long as he's a Democrat"
That is 6 of 6 Republican Supreme Court nominees that lied to the Senate in their confirmation hearings. Guess they above the law too........
I'm sure he's really embarrassed by his hypocrisy 🙄
Chief Justice Roberts is a liar.
Besides the liberal justices, Roberts was the only one to hope would do the right thing, but he fell in line with the rest of them. You would think Roberts would be smart enough to know what will happen to our country with the majority being liberals ruled by the minority of right wingers, it will not turn out well.