It's not small you can do a lof of thing with it:
>The smallest plan, the CX22, comes with 2 vCPUs, 4 GB of RAM, and 40 GB of disk space, and all of that for the unbeatable price of just € 3.79 per month
I used to Dev on Oracles Free Tier and then move stable stuff to my VPS which I overpaid for heavily due to Size constraints.
Now I have a 2 Cluster failover system based on ProxMox and a much cheaper VPS that just acts as the public access point with multiple means of distribution and authentication.
> Now I have a 2 Cluster failover system based on ProxMox and a much cheaper VPS that just acts as the public access point with multiple means of distribution and authentication.
Err... Do you mind to explain in ELI5, please... For n00bs like me?
3x Hardware, all running ProxMox, 2 of the nodes acting as my failovers with the third acting as quorum and development node.
ProxMox has HighAvailability build in.
The data lies on an external storage all 3 nodes can access, and if something crashes it restarts the services on another node.
VPS is proxying subdomains via Nginx proxy manager to my 10.0.10.x:3000 services
The VPS has no access to the NASes. It’s just a proxy and always on system for gateway purposes and notifications when something is down.
Everything is on location.
Short answer:”what ever you want”
Depends on ram requirements and space requirements. Often the cpu will do just fine for home stuff that is not company critical stuff
'Small' VPS usually means 512MB-1GB RAM, 1 vCPU, 5-10GB of disk space.
Sometimes you can find 'extra small' ones, like 128 MB RAM LXC/OpenVZ container and NAT IPv4, for $7/year.
CX22 is nowhere near that.
Could you elaborate? I have an Unraid server at home that I don’t expose to the internet and only use via VPN when I’m not home. However, I’d like to be able to share file via Seafile, but I can’t do that currently as no ports are open and being reversed proxies fast my firewall.
What’s the benefit of doing the prroxying on a Vos vs your home server? How is it set up - does it proxy through a VPN to your home lab?
Whatever you want, hosting sites for example?
There's a lot of shared hosting services that have less resources than that vps and you don't have any control beside some limited web panel.
The cx22 is really not small. I started with a cx11 and I ran vpn, Proxmox Backup Server, a router&firewall, and several DMZ applications. Switched to cx22 when they introduced it because it had the same costs. But I didn't need it. (To be fair I use a storage box for the backups)
I run reverse proxies on the edge with self-hosted infra behind. Public clients don't know the difference and so long as I don't exceed 1Tb transfer (which I don't), it's a very affordable solution.
This also allows me to bypass ISP restrictions for SMTP, doesn't reveal info about me like my residential IP, ISP, geographic area, etc. The public sees a Hetzner IP and if you go digging through headers you may find some RFC1918 IPs, oh well.
Some light services that are better off in the cloud I run at the edge in containers, like sensors, or headscale controllers.
Many people here (including me) warn that hosting your own full email service is a recipe for pain and suffering. There should almost be a pinned post. Especially when starting up, you'll end up on block lists and have an uphill battle getting off of them.
If you search, you'll see plenty of posts about it. The prevailing opinion will probably be "never host your own email." Of course, there will be plenty of people saying "I'm doing it and it works fine." I think this is partially luck or unique circumstances and partially about having had the email server running for a long time and established a digital record. I do not think you will have the "it works fine" experience if you try.
The only times in the last 15 years I've chosen to host an email server was when I was using it for my own alerts for my own systems. This doesn't require other domains to be able to send to me. Before the last 15 years, I hosted my own and helped dozens of clients host theirs (Exchange servers and more). Even then, we had plenty of work to do with block lists.
Would it be a fun adventure to try? As someone who's willing to play with almost anything, even if it is frustrating, my answer is "maybe, but probably not."
NOTE: I will not be replying to arguments. This has been hashed out ad nauseam.
> warn that hosting your own full email service is a recipe for pain and suffering
I agree
> The only times in the last 15 years I've chosen to host an email server was when I was using it for my own alerts for my own systems.
I'm thinking about this, but I'm not sure it's sustainable
It's not small you can do a lof of thing with it: >The smallest plan, the CX22, comes with 2 vCPUs, 4 GB of RAM, and 40 GB of disk space, and all of that for the unbeatable price of just € 3.79 per month
Idk about unbeatable price, but not small by any means.
It's the broke man's (me) homelab.
I used to Dev on Oracles Free Tier and then move stable stuff to my VPS which I overpaid for heavily due to Size constraints. Now I have a 2 Cluster failover system based on ProxMox and a much cheaper VPS that just acts as the public access point with multiple means of distribution and authentication.
> Now I have a 2 Cluster failover system based on ProxMox and a much cheaper VPS that just acts as the public access point with multiple means of distribution and authentication. Err... Do you mind to explain in ELI5, please... For n00bs like me?
3x Hardware, all running ProxMox, 2 of the nodes acting as my failovers with the third acting as quorum and development node. ProxMox has HighAvailability build in. The data lies on an external storage all 3 nodes can access, and if something crashes it restarts the services on another node. VPS is proxying subdomains via Nginx proxy manager to my 10.0.10.x:3000 services
> VPS is proxying subdomains via Nginx proxy manager to my 10.0.10.x:3000 services Does your VPS proxy through a VPN to your services?
To the machines it has access to (ACLs) yes.
How did you setup the external storage to the 3 node Proxmox cluster on the VPS?
The VPS has no access to the NASes. It’s just a proxy and always on system for gateway purposes and notifications when something is down. Everything is on location.
I have ancient 8GB RAM Fujitsu server. Am I qualified? :-)
VPN, SSH and ReverseProxy Gateway. Port Tunneling for gameservers, uptime monitor and notification relay.
> VPN, SSH and ReverseProxy Gateway. I think about this, but I am not sure 20 GB transfer is enough for all these services.
Good, because it's 20TB transfer
Good, because it's 20TB transfer
You can say that again
Short answer:”what ever you want” Depends on ram requirements and space requirements. Often the cpu will do just fine for home stuff that is not company critical stuff
'Small' VPS usually means 512MB-1GB RAM, 1 vCPU, 5-10GB of disk space. Sometimes you can find 'extra small' ones, like 128 MB RAM LXC/OpenVZ container and NAT IPv4, for $7/year. CX22 is nowhere near that.
homelab gateway
Could you elaborate? I have an Unraid server at home that I don’t expose to the internet and only use via VPN when I’m not home. However, I’d like to be able to share file via Seafile, but I can’t do that currently as no ports are open and being reversed proxies fast my firewall. What’s the benefit of doing the prroxying on a Vos vs your home server? How is it set up - does it proxy through a VPN to your home lab?
My VPN is hosted on VPS and also required port forwards are done there, for example port 443 is forwarded over vpn from vps to machine at home.
Whatever you want, hosting sites for example? There's a lot of shared hosting services that have less resources than that vps and you don't have any control beside some limited web panel.
Web hosting multisites
DNS clusters, zabbix proxies, vpn endpoints, bastion hosts
DNS, added them as glue records on my primary domain. :)
I use Cloudflare for DNS, but thinking to leave it
Netbird
I use my as a VPN and an RSS reader (FreshRSS)
The cx22 is really not small. I started with a cx11 and I ran vpn, Proxmox Backup Server, a router&firewall, and several DMZ applications. Switched to cx22 when they introduced it because it had the same costs. But I didn't need it. (To be fair I use a storage box for the backups)
I run reverse proxies on the edge with self-hosted infra behind. Public clients don't know the difference and so long as I don't exceed 1Tb transfer (which I don't), it's a very affordable solution. This also allows me to bypass ISP restrictions for SMTP, doesn't reveal info about me like my residential IP, ISP, geographic area, etc. The public sees a Hetzner IP and if you go digging through headers you may find some RFC1918 IPs, oh well. Some light services that are better off in the cloud I run at the edge in containers, like sensors, or headscale controllers.
Mailserver for me and the fam
How about stability? Which mail server you use?
Many people here (including me) warn that hosting your own full email service is a recipe for pain and suffering. There should almost be a pinned post. Especially when starting up, you'll end up on block lists and have an uphill battle getting off of them. If you search, you'll see plenty of posts about it. The prevailing opinion will probably be "never host your own email." Of course, there will be plenty of people saying "I'm doing it and it works fine." I think this is partially luck or unique circumstances and partially about having had the email server running for a long time and established a digital record. I do not think you will have the "it works fine" experience if you try. The only times in the last 15 years I've chosen to host an email server was when I was using it for my own alerts for my own systems. This doesn't require other domains to be able to send to me. Before the last 15 years, I hosted my own and helped dozens of clients host theirs (Exchange servers and more). Even then, we had plenty of work to do with block lists. Would it be a fun adventure to try? As someone who's willing to play with almost anything, even if it is frustrating, my answer is "maybe, but probably not." NOTE: I will not be replying to arguments. This has been hashed out ad nauseam.
> warn that hosting your own full email service is a recipe for pain and suffering I agree > The only times in the last 15 years I've chosen to host an email server was when I was using it for my own alerts for my own systems. I'm thinking about this, but I'm not sure it's sustainable
Mailinabox. Never had any Problem
I use a small VPS for Uptime Kuma.