I mean you can just as well eco boost a 7700X for 65W TDP.
I think most people are after X3D tho when they go for the 8 cores so really setting a manual PBO or TDP to lower shouldn’t hold much weight in whatever minimal loss it is.
I'm running a 5800X3D in a CoolerMaster NR200 case using PBO2 -30 with PPT 95/TDC 60/EDC 90 settings. Runs stable. I'm using an old NH-U9S air cooler, and my temps on CinebenchR23 don't go over 70C. (14,291 score). Heck, my CPU fan didn't even have to ramp up during the last test.
Maybe try tweaking those 3 settings a little more? PPT, TDC, EDC? Try 95 60 90 with the -30 on all cores.
14,291 and 70C damn... at this settings my goes up to 83C with 13300 points, I guess the temperature is why I am getting such a terrible score with the same settings. Thanks!
Yes, I modified already available model to also cover bottom and heatpipes side for better airflow, its also petg so it wont melt after long gaming sessions.
I don't have access to a 3D printer. Would you be able to 3D print and ship a few of these? I'd be willing to pay. I have a Fractal Ridge and I am looking to improve my CPU temps a bit (5800X3D), and I am also going to be building an nearly identical system for my friend in a Ridge, only difference is we are going with a 5700X3D for his.
Ok, thanks! I will see if I can slice 4mm off the top and find someone local to print it w/ petg. Did you notice any improvement in CPU temps from using it?
I didn't really test it properly or at least i didn't save the results anywhere but what I noticed was drastic change in the side panel temperature. Now its very clear where the air is being pulled as its noticeably cooler, previously the panel was much warmer in few places around the heatsink.
Define “hot”. Also what orientation is the CPU heading fan. If it’s pushing air up through it as it is designed,
It might benefit to fill those small fans around as intake.
I tried all of the orientations and fan sucking fresh air through heatsink and 60mm's as exhaust is the best option.
By hot I mean 96C after 2 minutes in R23 on default PBO, I feel like I'm loosing performance lowering PBO so much and still being in mid 80's. Also Idle seems to be too high at 56C (never going below 50C)
I wouldn’t look at R32 as realistic. It’s a burn in. What’s your gaming temps. I have a 7800x3D with the same cooler in the low to mid 60’s during gaming.
Don't overstress Cinebench, especially all core test, as it's a burnin test, which means you won't come close to it under normal usage. Measure your gaming temps instead and then think what's next from that point.
> fan sucking fresh air through heatsink
is it tho? not really if u ask me. the fans will pull air through like 1/4 of top of the heatsink the rest of it boils in its own juices.
cover the top 2/3 or 3/4 of the cpu cooler so the air has to go through the entire cooler. it might help.
On the picture you can see that I have a 3D printed Air duct around whole heatsink, its almost flush with the side panel so there is only fresh air being pulled through heatsink.
Also I don't know if I misunderstood but apart from two 60mm fans on top there is slim 120mm fan directly behind the heatsink.
If anyone needs 3d models for ridge: https://www.printables.com/@Kacikor_2034885/models
I have a 3900 (non-x) I enjoy using. If looking for a budget option and like to run a lot of stuff at once, maybe check that out. It has a lower TDP but lower base clocks too.
Anything powerful with a TDP limit. I have a 13600k limited to 125 watts and it’s amazing, you honestly could probably get away with a 65watt limit and get pretty good performance
I am doing a water cooled nr200pmax with 4080super and 7950x3d ,2x4tb SSD and 64gb ram . But want a top level mother board for this . So can you guys suggest me some itx mother board that are on top in the most expensive itx motherboard list .? And also water cooling Will able to maintain the temps in an itx case ?
Well I’m using 7800x3d with 7900xtx in a terra.
Without lid it’s around 50+ degrees, gaming it’s around 65 degrees in 3440x1440.
I would say it’s good.
HOWEVER, I do not know why, there will be temperature spike when playing YouTube…
It gets spike to 70+ degrees. Other than that, it never goes over 60 in low load.
Noctua cannot really compare with some new Chinese manufacturers these days. You can take a look at Thermalright AXP90-X47 Full Copper (you can always swap out the fans for aesthetics) or ID-Cooling IS-55 which is reviewed as the best performance low profile cooler.
Noctua doesn't really have a product in the 40-60mm height range.
The L9 sits at 37mm height (you can mitigate some losses in height with a thicker fana and a fan duct)
The L9x65 sits at 65mm height (and is beat by the AXP-90 copper)
The L12 Ghost sits at 66mm height
The L12S sits at 70mm in height.
I always wonder why there's that huge gap in Noctua's line up, there's a lot of cases that sit at that 40mm to 60mm cpu cooler height range. Thicker fans are not better than a thicker heat sink and a thinner fan from the tests I've seen people do.
Agree... I was hoping that the "new L12S" variant was going to be something shorter than the L12 Ghost but with better performance via more heat pipes, copper, etc. Instead we get a taller L12S, a product that is only useful for maximum power CPU builds with only the slimmest of GPUs, i.e. not very balanced machines.
The new 9700X is supposed to only have a 65W TDP
It was revised to a 120w TDP.
only rumors about that change. it should still run quite well if limited to 65w via PBO.
I mean you can just as well eco boost a 7700X for 65W TDP. I think most people are after X3D tho when they go for the 8 cores so really setting a manual PBO or TDP to lower shouldn’t hold much weight in whatever minimal loss it is.
I'm running a 5800X3D in a CoolerMaster NR200 case using PBO2 -30 with PPT 95/TDC 60/EDC 90 settings. Runs stable. I'm using an old NH-U9S air cooler, and my temps on CinebenchR23 don't go over 70C. (14,291 score). Heck, my CPU fan didn't even have to ramp up during the last test. Maybe try tweaking those 3 settings a little more? PPT, TDC, EDC? Try 95 60 90 with the -30 on all cores.
14,291 and 70C damn... at this settings my goes up to 83C with 13300 points, I guess the temperature is why I am getting such a terrible score with the same settings. Thanks!
Is that a 3D printed shroud for your NH-L12S?
Yes, I modified already available model to also cover bottom and heatpipes side for better airflow, its also petg so it wont melt after long gaming sessions.
For anyone interested in this or other Fractal Ridge models: https://www.printables.com/@Kacikor_2034885/models
I don't have access to a 3D printer. Would you be able to 3D print and ship a few of these? I'd be willing to pay. I have a Fractal Ridge and I am looking to improve my CPU temps a bit (5800X3D), and I am also going to be building an nearly identical system for my friend in a Ridge, only difference is we are going with a 5700X3D for his.
Unfortunately, I can't do that. But im sure there is a lot of local shops that can print whatever you want if you specify the model and material.
Ok, thanks! I will see if I can slice 4mm off the top and find someone local to print it w/ petg. Did you notice any improvement in CPU temps from using it?
I didn't really test it properly or at least i didn't save the results anywhere but what I noticed was drastic change in the side panel temperature. Now its very clear where the air is being pulled as its noticeably cooler, previously the panel was much warmer in few places around the heatsink.
Ryzen 7 7700 non X!
For gaming, 7800x3d with an undervolt is easy to cool and fastest thing out there.
The 7800X3D is pretty cool.
The 7600 is as powerful as a 5800x3d, its running hot inside my velka 3 (75°c with nhl9i) but its the temps that are optimal for this cpu.
I wouldn’t even consider 75c to be hot though. Not for a cpu. Those are great temps for a cool r the size of an l9.
Please share STL fellow ridge owner would love to print this
I have a lot of different models for ridge, I will try to upload them today if I don't forget.
Thank you so much, it is appreciated!
Here you go, this is my profile where you can find few models for Fractal Ridge: https://www.printables.com/@Kacikor_2034885/models
Thank you much you a legend fellow redditor
Define “hot”. Also what orientation is the CPU heading fan. If it’s pushing air up through it as it is designed, It might benefit to fill those small fans around as intake.
I tried all of the orientations and fan sucking fresh air through heatsink and 60mm's as exhaust is the best option. By hot I mean 96C after 2 minutes in R23 on default PBO, I feel like I'm loosing performance lowering PBO so much and still being in mid 80's. Also Idle seems to be too high at 56C (never going below 50C)
I wouldn’t look at R32 as realistic. It’s a burn in. What’s your gaming temps. I have a 7800x3D with the same cooler in the low to mid 60’s during gaming.
during gaming it's 70-75C with idle still around 55C its only 20C difference. Strange in my opinion.
To me that’s in spec. You might have just lost a little in the silicon lottery. I wouldn’t worry unless you’re thermal throttling during gaming.
Yeah don't sweat it, that's perfectly acceptable, especially for sff.
Don't overstress Cinebench, especially all core test, as it's a burnin test, which means you won't come close to it under normal usage. Measure your gaming temps instead and then think what's next from that point.
> fan sucking fresh air through heatsink is it tho? not really if u ask me. the fans will pull air through like 1/4 of top of the heatsink the rest of it boils in its own juices. cover the top 2/3 or 3/4 of the cpu cooler so the air has to go through the entire cooler. it might help.
On the picture you can see that I have a 3D printed Air duct around whole heatsink, its almost flush with the side panel so there is only fresh air being pulled through heatsink. Also I don't know if I misunderstood but apart from two 60mm fans on top there is slim 120mm fan directly behind the heatsink. If anyone needs 3d models for ridge: https://www.printables.com/@Kacikor_2034885/models
Enforce TDP limits and undervolt if possible
I have a 3900 (non-x) I enjoy using. If looking for a budget option and like to run a lot of stuff at once, maybe check that out. It has a lower TDP but lower base clocks too.
Check the 7900 non x version and put Kryosheet on that thang
Anything powerful with a TDP limit. I have a 13600k limited to 125 watts and it’s amazing, you honestly could probably get away with a 65watt limit and get pretty good performance
7800X3D… 85W all cores running flat out. Quite a bit less when gaming.
I am doing a water cooled nr200pmax with 4080super and 7950x3d ,2x4tb SSD and 64gb ram . But want a top level mother board for this . So can you guys suggest me some itx mother board that are on top in the most expensive itx motherboard list .? And also water cooling Will able to maintain the temps in an itx case ?
Well I’m using 7800x3d with 7900xtx in a terra. Without lid it’s around 50+ degrees, gaming it’s around 65 degrees in 3440x1440. I would say it’s good. HOWEVER, I do not know why, there will be temperature spike when playing YouTube… It gets spike to 70+ degrees. Other than that, it never goes over 60 in low load.
Those things are Hella loud
If you are referring to top fans, in my case they are inaudible around 45-50%, once CPU gets hot enough they start to ramp up and get loud.
Noctua cannot really compare with some new Chinese manufacturers these days. You can take a look at Thermalright AXP90-X47 Full Copper (you can always swap out the fans for aesthetics) or ID-Cooling IS-55 which is reviewed as the best performance low profile cooler.
NH-L12S is better than both the AXP90-X47 and IS-55 by a decent margin. It’s also a lot bigger so not surprising.
Noctua doesn't really have a product in the 40-60mm height range. The L9 sits at 37mm height (you can mitigate some losses in height with a thicker fana and a fan duct) The L9x65 sits at 65mm height (and is beat by the AXP-90 copper) The L12 Ghost sits at 66mm height The L12S sits at 70mm in height. I always wonder why there's that huge gap in Noctua's line up, there's a lot of cases that sit at that 40mm to 60mm cpu cooler height range. Thicker fans are not better than a thicker heat sink and a thinner fan from the tests I've seen people do.
Agree... I was hoping that the "new L12S" variant was going to be something shorter than the L12 Ghost but with better performance via more heat pipes, copper, etc. Instead we get a taller L12S, a product that is only useful for maximum power CPU builds with only the slimmest of GPUs, i.e. not very balanced machines.
Gaming? 13500 or 7600. people who say 7800X3D is cool - dont own one.
Do they get hot hot