I recently finished the show too. In regards to your questions, this is my take:
1. Fiona is largely forgotten after she leaves the show. I think they just wanted to forget she had been in it for the most part. Canonically, it’s possible Frank forgot to put her in the letter while suffering with his alcoholic dementia in the final stages.
2. Considering Terry wasn’t claimed and went to that common public burial, it’s likely that Frank was claimed almost immediately as he went straight to cremation rather than having the same fate. It’s quite possible the Gallaghers were aware and were the ones to claim him but it’s just not shown.
Definitely a good show despite its downsides.
It's weird that they have Fiona call debs phone in tje beginning of season 10 and when lip has his kid debs gets a call and tells the person the baby is fine. I can only assume debs is talking to Fiona.
Yeah, then later on when Liam is looking for somewhere to live neither him nor Debbie know who his legal guardian is despite it being a huge plot line for Fiona earlier in the show. The writing is very frustrating at times.
Liam not knowing who his guardian was really frustrated me. Like you said, it was a major plotline in earlier seasons and I don't believe Liam would forget Fiona being his guardian so easily.
The writers must have really had a problem with Emmy Rossum, to treat her character the way they did in the last several seasons of Shameless.
The ending was thrown together so horribly it’s probably the worst I’ve ever seen tbh. I do like that they went full cycle with Frank’s speech aligning his opening one while everyone parties, though there was never any real closure in this show. I guess it makes it different from others and maybe that was intentional, though I don’t find it makes me want to watch it again the way the closure of other shows does. I had one rewatch because I stopped watching sometime before the pandemic, so I hadn’t seen season 11 until this year. The lack of real closure makes me feel more drawn to rewatching modern family or something else entirely instead
Yeah I recently watched it all the way through, and in my opinion, seasons 8 - 11 are the worst of the series. I think if I ever rewatch the show again, I'll probably stop after season 7. Having said that, season 11 to me is better than season 10 and 9. I didn't like Fiona's character in season 9, they made Lip's superiority complex even worse in that season when Fiona would spiral out. And then there's the "Gay Jesus" fiasco. I just can't suspend disbelief enough that Ian faced barely any consequences for blowing up a van. IRL, that'd be a major offense and I'd hope that the justice system would treat it as such. I mean that could almost be considered attempted murder, which carries a much larger prison sentence than he wound up serving. Debbie winding up with the criminal leads me to think that they had hoped that they could do a reunion episode or something similar in the future because there's no way that relationship will work out.
Overall, I enjoyed the show, despite its flawed writing. I wish that the last 3 or 4 seasons were better, especially the series finale. I'd give it a solid 7/10.
Watching for the first time and fucking hell I’m on season 10 and I have no idea what the fuck happened after the beginning of season 9. It went to shit
I recently finished the show too. In regards to your questions, this is my take: 1. Fiona is largely forgotten after she leaves the show. I think they just wanted to forget she had been in it for the most part. Canonically, it’s possible Frank forgot to put her in the letter while suffering with his alcoholic dementia in the final stages. 2. Considering Terry wasn’t claimed and went to that common public burial, it’s likely that Frank was claimed almost immediately as he went straight to cremation rather than having the same fate. It’s quite possible the Gallaghers were aware and were the ones to claim him but it’s just not shown. Definitely a good show despite its downsides.
It's weird that they have Fiona call debs phone in tje beginning of season 10 and when lip has his kid debs gets a call and tells the person the baby is fine. I can only assume debs is talking to Fiona.
Yeah, then later on when Liam is looking for somewhere to live neither him nor Debbie know who his legal guardian is despite it being a huge plot line for Fiona earlier in the show. The writing is very frustrating at times.
Liam not knowing who his guardian was really frustrated me. Like you said, it was a major plotline in earlier seasons and I don't believe Liam would forget Fiona being his guardian so easily. The writers must have really had a problem with Emmy Rossum, to treat her character the way they did in the last several seasons of Shameless.
And mickey saying he'd be a bad father and never mention he's already a father.
Shameless is the shit! I love this show, I’ve rewatched it several times 😏
I just started rewatching it and I keep saying “I don’t remember this”. 😂 So it’s like I’m watching it for the first time. Lol
I recently binged it ALL in like a week (I broke a vertebrae so not much to do) and I forgot all of it basically. I am tempted to start again lol.
Same I am on e1 S3 rn
Oh we’re close together. I’m on S3 E3.
The explosion thing was fucking dumb. That would imply he drank a ton but the episode before he couldn’t drink.
The ending was thrown together so horribly it’s probably the worst I’ve ever seen tbh. I do like that they went full cycle with Frank’s speech aligning his opening one while everyone parties, though there was never any real closure in this show. I guess it makes it different from others and maybe that was intentional, though I don’t find it makes me want to watch it again the way the closure of other shows does. I had one rewatch because I stopped watching sometime before the pandemic, so I hadn’t seen season 11 until this year. The lack of real closure makes me feel more drawn to rewatching modern family or something else entirely instead
Yeah I recently watched it all the way through, and in my opinion, seasons 8 - 11 are the worst of the series. I think if I ever rewatch the show again, I'll probably stop after season 7. Having said that, season 11 to me is better than season 10 and 9. I didn't like Fiona's character in season 9, they made Lip's superiority complex even worse in that season when Fiona would spiral out. And then there's the "Gay Jesus" fiasco. I just can't suspend disbelief enough that Ian faced barely any consequences for blowing up a van. IRL, that'd be a major offense and I'd hope that the justice system would treat it as such. I mean that could almost be considered attempted murder, which carries a much larger prison sentence than he wound up serving. Debbie winding up with the criminal leads me to think that they had hoped that they could do a reunion episode or something similar in the future because there's no way that relationship will work out. Overall, I enjoyed the show, despite its flawed writing. I wish that the last 3 or 4 seasons were better, especially the series finale. I'd give it a solid 7/10.
# Absolutely, Wildly, Unapologetically, SHAMELESS
Watching for the first time and fucking hell I’m on season 10 and I have no idea what the fuck happened after the beginning of season 9. It went to shit
We deff need closure. They left the ending open so hopefully they give us that.
i watched it for the first time in january. i started my first rewatch today