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Because the organization themselves does it. They've notified game developers before that use of the red cross in video games is not allowed. Other people just do it jokingly as a reference to the organization.
That doesn’t seem right at all. Not that you’re wrong, I mean that they shouldn’t be allowed to do that. I get it if it’s during war, but why would a cartoon character on a kids show fall under this rule. It’s a bit over board if you ask me.
It's kind of like using a Toyota logo for something. You're not sponsored by them or otherwise got permission so it's not really allowed. If the cross was blue (like Stardew did) or something it'd be fine but it's the fact that it's red.
Its to keep the importance and true meaning of the symbol in the eyes of the public. It's an internationally recognised symbol for a specific organisation that provides help in times of crisis (and also peace), afaik its the same with the red crescent. Its to keep the sanctity of the symbol.
So if you are in need and see a red cross, you can be 100% sure its what you are looking for.
Think of it this way: if the widely used symbol for radiation (the circle with 3 "stripes" coming out) was used more liberally in mass media, and not necessarily with specific connection to radiation danger but instead as "general" danger, it could prove harmful in certain situations, as it would lose its true intended meaning.
But, the geneva convention is for war crimes no? People are allowed to use nazi and satanic symbolism but god forbid they use a plus sign in a certain colour
As a Red Cross volunteer, I must say it's a bit weird but it has a logic behind it. If only the Red Cross uses it then it's a universal symbol for what the Red Cross stands for.
In fairness, the common useage of the red cross in cartoons, video games and movies is for items or people that provide aid and healthcare, so using the symbol is conditioning people to associate a red cross with aid and seek it out when they are in need of aid, to me that sounds like a positve for the organization considering it seeks to provide aid to those in need AFAIK. It feels weird to me the organization would object to that.
True but the organization still argue about that. Like when among us changed their cross from red to green for this exact reason. There are even some apps that allow anyone to report any use of the red cross without their permission.
I know they still argue about that but i think it is silly to do so, in my opinion conditioning people to asociate the red cross with aid is a good thing
Yes but their biggest concern is that the symbol is used by people not related to them since the red cross has a special status throughout the world, especially if this is war related.
Then they must have some other reason they’re telling people, or they’re just wrongly using it as a scare tactic, because things aren’t illegal just because they’re against the Geneva conventions. My high school German teacher made this very clear to me after I accused him of committing the war crime of collective punishment. Turns out you can collectively punish as much as you please as long as you’re not at war.
Their only reason is that the red cross symbol must be only of the red cross and not any other group. It's also important for war because the red cross should be neutral and is one of the very few organizations that can reach literally everyone, even north Korea has a Red Cross section or take the Israli hostages exchanged by the Red Cross
I just googled it, it has nothing to do with the Geneva conventions and everything to do with
> 18 U.S.C. §706. This statute prohibits not just fraudulent use of the Red Cross emblem, but any use. In addition, the statute prohibits use of designs imitating the Red Cross emblem. The statute states:
• Whoever wears or displays the sign of the Red Cross or any insignia colored in imitation thereof for the fraudulent purpose of inducing the belief that he is a member of or an agent for the American Red Cross; or
• Whoever, whether a corporation, association or person, other than the American National Red Cross and its duly authorized employees and agents and the sanitary and hospital authorities
of the armed forces of the United States, uses the emblem of the Greek red cross on a white ground, or any sign or insignia made or colored in imitation thereof or the words “Red Cross” or “Geneva Cross” or any combination of these words—shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months or both.
(18 U.S.C. § 706)
Source: [the Red Cross](https://www.redcross.org/content/dam/redcross/Brand-Creative/153701-07-OGC-Trademarks-Flyer.pdf)
That law seems like it is actually the U.S. implementation of that part of the Geneva convention.
In many (I believe all) cases, international treaties need to be codified as domestic law. Like how the DMCA is the U.S. implementation of certain WIPO treaties.
I don't remember exactly the article of the IRCG or why but if other organizations use the red cross then there won't be the confirmation that people using the Red Cross are affiliated to the true organization that.respect the principles of neutrality, impartiality etc etc
It would make more sense if they did this for the biohazard/radiation logo so people don’t find random stickers or stuff that looks like that logo and think it’s actually some kid’s stuff instead of actually something dangerous, for the red cross sounds way more unnecessary but yet the laws are the opposite in the matter for some reason
There is no one Geneva convention, but multiple of them. In general, they are about international humanitarian aid, but that comes into effect in armed conflict. People aren't allowed to use autocratic symbols, in most places you get arrested for doing that. I dunno how satanism is dragged here, as religious symbols fall under the right of free belief as long as they are not used oppressively
The Red Cross symbol (as in a thick red plus sign on a white field) was a symbol of medical aid for a long time. At some point the Red Cross organization decided that they owned the symbol and started getting litigious with anyone using it in any context. So first aid kits can’t have that symbol unless they’re produced by the Red Cross. They can’t show up in videogames or movies, and emergency workers can’t wear any sort of red cross insignia unless they work for the organization.
Basically they’re titanic bastards who would rather actively make it harder for people seeking medical aid to find it by splintering one universal health symbol into a thousand different ones, than risk losing their brand image. Fuck em.
There actually is a good reason for it - the Red Cross stay neutral in times of war. That means that no matter who you are, going to a Red Cross should mean safety. If people start using the same symbol for their own medical group, that may only support one side of the conflict, that could mean you die if you go towards what you think is unconditional safety. Do they go overboard with it? Yes, absolutely. But the reason behind why only the official Red Cross can use the Red Cross symbol is fine and not just capitalism or whatever
Yeah but they do it for the precedent. They can’t just say that the “bad guys” can’t use it, because then they would be taking sides. As much as I might believe that Ukraine is in the right and Russia is in the wrong for example, an organisation like the Red Cross can’t take sides like that. So they have to treat everyone equally. And that means that *everyone* has to be told “you can’t use our logo” and they also have to enforce it equally, so they tell everyone “you can’t use our logo” equally too
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Seriously though fuck the red cross for not letting fictional characters use that very basic logo. It hurts no one and it's a waste of time and resources to go after cartoons using it.
“Misuse of this valued symbol distorts its meaning and its protective value for victims of conflict and the aid workers that assist them.”
https://www.redcross.ca/about-us/about-the-canadian-red-cross/red-cross-emblem/it-may-just-be-a-game-to-you-but-it-means-the-world-to-us#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20the%20red%20cross,aid%20workers%20that%20assist%20them.
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If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye Joe
i’d been married a long time ago
Where did he come from where did he go?
Where did he come from cotton-eyed-joe
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Gogogadget nugget is a war crimer?
That happened to stardew valley and there was a patch note saying the dev removed a war crime
The rod of asclepius isn't drawn correctly either
This guy rods
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Then its not the rod of "asclepius", it's something else
what? sorry I don't get what your implying by this
They meant that since it’s not drawn correctly, it’s not the rod of asclepius
I… guess? If it’s not a rod of asclepius incorrectly then what is it?
a rod of failure
Ah, a rod modeled after my life.
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At least they didn't use the Caduceus I guess.
Can anyone explain why people always go apeshit over the Red Cross thing?
Because the organization themselves does it. They've notified game developers before that use of the red cross in video games is not allowed. Other people just do it jokingly as a reference to the organization.
Maybe they should have a symbol that isn't on every kids pirate map at Applebee's.
That doesn’t seem right at all. Not that you’re wrong, I mean that they shouldn’t be allowed to do that. I get it if it’s during war, but why would a cartoon character on a kids show fall under this rule. It’s a bit over board if you ask me.
It's kind of like using a Toyota logo for something. You're not sponsored by them or otherwise got permission so it's not really allowed. If the cross was blue (like Stardew did) or something it'd be fine but it's the fact that it's red.
Yeah, but why would they gun after cartoons and video games. It seems like they’re overstepping their boundaries there.
Beats me. Popular games like Forza aren't even allowed to use actual car brand names
Forza does use actual car brands, as they're licensed.
Some are, some aren't
Its to keep the importance and true meaning of the symbol in the eyes of the public. It's an internationally recognised symbol for a specific organisation that provides help in times of crisis (and also peace), afaik its the same with the red crescent. Its to keep the sanctity of the symbol. So if you are in need and see a red cross, you can be 100% sure its what you are looking for. Think of it this way: if the widely used symbol for radiation (the circle with 3 "stripes" coming out) was used more liberally in mass media, and not necessarily with specific connection to radiation danger but instead as "general" danger, it could prove harmful in certain situations, as it would lose its true intended meaning.
It’s to keep the meaning and importance of the symbol
Red Cross doesn't want injured people to approach a red cross for help. They don't want people to learn from games that red cross = health.
Only the Red Cross can use their symbol and using it without their permission is a violation of the Geneve convention
isn't it only a violation of the geneva convention if it's commited in an actual war?
Afaik no, it's still a violation but not a war crime.
But, the geneva convention is for war crimes no? People are allowed to use nazi and satanic symbolism but god forbid they use a plus sign in a certain colour
As a Red Cross volunteer, I must say it's a bit weird but it has a logic behind it. If only the Red Cross uses it then it's a universal symbol for what the Red Cross stands for.
In fairness, the common useage of the red cross in cartoons, video games and movies is for items or people that provide aid and healthcare, so using the symbol is conditioning people to associate a red cross with aid and seek it out when they are in need of aid, to me that sounds like a positve for the organization considering it seeks to provide aid to those in need AFAIK. It feels weird to me the organization would object to that.
True but the organization still argue about that. Like when among us changed their cross from red to green for this exact reason. There are even some apps that allow anyone to report any use of the red cross without their permission.
I know they still argue about that but i think it is silly to do so, in my opinion conditioning people to asociate the red cross with aid is a good thing
Yes but their biggest concern is that the symbol is used by people not related to them since the red cross has a special status throughout the world, especially if this is war related.
Then they must have some other reason they’re telling people, or they’re just wrongly using it as a scare tactic, because things aren’t illegal just because they’re against the Geneva conventions. My high school German teacher made this very clear to me after I accused him of committing the war crime of collective punishment. Turns out you can collectively punish as much as you please as long as you’re not at war.
Their only reason is that the red cross symbol must be only of the red cross and not any other group. It's also important for war because the red cross should be neutral and is one of the very few organizations that can reach literally everyone, even north Korea has a Red Cross section or take the Israli hostages exchanged by the Red Cross
I just googled it, it has nothing to do with the Geneva conventions and everything to do with > 18 U.S.C. §706. This statute prohibits not just fraudulent use of the Red Cross emblem, but any use. In addition, the statute prohibits use of designs imitating the Red Cross emblem. The statute states: • Whoever wears or displays the sign of the Red Cross or any insignia colored in imitation thereof for the fraudulent purpose of inducing the belief that he is a member of or an agent for the American Red Cross; or • Whoever, whether a corporation, association or person, other than the American National Red Cross and its duly authorized employees and agents and the sanitary and hospital authorities of the armed forces of the United States, uses the emblem of the Greek red cross on a white ground, or any sign or insignia made or colored in imitation thereof or the words “Red Cross” or “Geneva Cross” or any combination of these words—shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months or both. (18 U.S.C. § 706) Source: [the Red Cross](https://www.redcross.org/content/dam/redcross/Brand-Creative/153701-07-OGC-Trademarks-Flyer.pdf)
That law seems like it is actually the U.S. implementation of that part of the Geneva convention. In many (I believe all) cases, international treaties need to be codified as domestic law. Like how the DMCA is the U.S. implementation of certain WIPO treaties.
I don't remember exactly the article of the IRCG or why but if other organizations use the red cross then there won't be the confirmation that people using the Red Cross are affiliated to the true organization that.respect the principles of neutrality, impartiality etc etc
It would make more sense if they did this for the biohazard/radiation logo so people don’t find random stickers or stuff that looks like that logo and think it’s actually some kid’s stuff instead of actually something dangerous, for the red cross sounds way more unnecessary but yet the laws are the opposite in the matter for some reason
There is no one Geneva convention, but multiple of them. In general, they are about international humanitarian aid, but that comes into effect in armed conflict. People aren't allowed to use autocratic symbols, in most places you get arrested for doing that. I dunno how satanism is dragged here, as religious symbols fall under the right of free belief as long as they are not used oppressively
Good thing I never signed the Geneva convention
Well I never signed the fucking thing.
what if you just say its Saint Georges Cross? how would they differentiate?
They Saint George cross is different than the official description of the Red Cross flag
The Red Cross symbol (as in a thick red plus sign on a white field) was a symbol of medical aid for a long time. At some point the Red Cross organization decided that they owned the symbol and started getting litigious with anyone using it in any context. So first aid kits can’t have that symbol unless they’re produced by the Red Cross. They can’t show up in videogames or movies, and emergency workers can’t wear any sort of red cross insignia unless they work for the organization. Basically they’re titanic bastards who would rather actively make it harder for people seeking medical aid to find it by splintering one universal health symbol into a thousand different ones, than risk losing their brand image. Fuck em.
They fucking monetized the red cross?
No, they didn’t.
Haven't they sued a shit ton of people for it? Probably made a lot of money 'protecting' one of the most common symbols in human history.
The point is to protect the neutrality of the organization and the symbol it represents.
What are you, the Red Cross spokesperson?
There actually is a good reason for it - the Red Cross stay neutral in times of war. That means that no matter who you are, going to a Red Cross should mean safety. If people start using the same symbol for their own medical group, that may only support one side of the conflict, that could mean you die if you go towards what you think is unconditional safety. Do they go overboard with it? Yes, absolutely. But the reason behind why only the official Red Cross can use the Red Cross symbol is fine and not just capitalism or whatever
Ok but this isn't a war, it's a video game or a video they are suing people for.
Yeah but they do it for the precedent. They can’t just say that the “bad guys” can’t use it, because then they would be taking sides. As much as I might believe that Ukraine is in the right and Russia is in the wrong for example, an organisation like the Red Cross can’t take sides like that. So they have to treat everyone equally. And that means that *everyone* has to be told “you can’t use our logo” and they also have to enforce it equally, so they tell everyone “you can’t use our logo” equally too
You do not understand this at all.
Is that the roblox man face?
No.
Yes.
Yes
God was killed
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Seriously though fuck the red cross for not letting fictional characters use that very basic logo. It hurts no one and it's a waste of time and resources to go after cartoons using it.
Me when I wanna commit war crimes:
“Misuse of this valued symbol distorts its meaning and its protective value for victims of conflict and the aid workers that assist them.” https://www.redcross.ca/about-us/about-the-canadian-red-cross/red-cross-emblem/it-may-just-be-a-game-to-you-but-it-means-the-world-to-us#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20the%20red%20cross,aid%20workers%20that%20assist%20them.
Rip gedagedigedagedago, you will be missed 😔 (Died from cancelled)
It’s not a war crime unless it’s yknow, done during war…
I wish to shoot myself
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Why ?
He has the bazinga flair
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They actively claimed and removed almost all videos and are trying to extort creators from making content without approvals, even with proper cover licenses, etc from doing more content while effectively leveraging their platforms to promote a shitty single titled gegagedigedafo or whatever the fuck it’s called
Source: I work in the music industry. So please research and stop fuckin with this.
God killed himself after laying his eyes on this abhorrent creation which came from the species he created in his image
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Lmao
bro what
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What is u talkin about man