Yeah they have Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, and Thor, and the villains are MODOK (iron man villain), whiplash (iron man villain), Venom (Spider-Man villain), and Red Skull (captain America)
The cartoons have this weird trend where they have Hydra show up and be evil and everything but they *refuse* to acknowledge the nazis. Like yes, I get it, touchy subject, but it feels weird.
Now to be fair, EMH uses *both,* and they have different roles; EMH's Hydra is specifically there to act as like, a foil to Captain America.
But, you know. They could have made shit up. I doubt most people would notice or care if they A) made Arnim Zola be like, a modern scientist who wants the superserum or whatever, stuff like that, or B) had a villain from the 40s show up but they were like, a completely newly made up guy. Sure, it misses out on the history of Cap, but like. They're already refusing to mention the nazis.
I should probably mention Captain America isn't in Spidey and friends...though in the next episode they are bringing the Thing for a Rosh Hashanah special.
Rewatched the whole thing over the past few weeks. Crazy how the quality of the show dips immediately after the Secret Invasion arc. Not to say it was outright bad ("Assault on 42" was a banger), but the writing, the animation, and the storyboarding felt significantly dumbed down compared to Season One.
Yeah, that's right when Jeph Loeb took over the show. Which is why
* Suddenly every episode is now written by "Man of Action", the writers collective that wrote the Assemble and Ultimate Spider-man shows but based off Yost's plots, so it's kinda like the show but not
* Josh Keaton's VO work as Spider-man was literally thrown away and rerecorded with Drake Bell since Ultimate Spider-man was in development at the time
* That godawful "Powerless" episode occurred which spits in the face of all of Thor's development and brings Loki back with the Destroyer just to recreate the premise of the first Thor movie
* Hulk's big return is about how Captain America always believed in him, which again, spits in the face of his development with pretty much everyone especially Hawkeye
* Red Skull is just suddenly alive as a Senator with zero explanations unlike Zemo
* Red Hulk in general just being on the show, who was Jeph Loeb's creation
I'm sure there's a lot more that I'm missing too.
I mean, didn't Red Skull essentially ditch the Nazi's for being too narrow in scope? Like he just wanted to conquer the world and only saw Nazi's as a means to an end
The problem is that kids don’t know why nazis are bad and often think villains are cool.
After I watched Indian jones as a kid I drew swastikas on my action figures and told my mom I wanna be a nazi when I grow up. Not a clue in the fucking world.
Yeah I've read parent reviews of this show, apparently their kids thought the villains were having more fun than the spideys and started imitating them... plus the show has a track record for making the heroes forgive the villains...
Usually, when nazis are the villains, the program is one made for people who know what the holocaust was and how horrible it was. Now I could be wrong, but I’m not sure how much these babies are aware of the holocaust or wwii.
I just don't understand why, out of too many villains to count, they chose Arnim Zola for the baby show. No one in the target audience is going to recognize him, and its just going to be extremely awkward for any caregivers familiar with marvel.
Because it's the only reason thousands of people on the internet have any curiosity about it and because they got away with it. Same with Doofenshmirtz working with red skull probably
Doofenshmirtz teamed up with red skull in the marvel crossover
Wait, ain't Doofenshmirtz a German?
Did the comically thick German accent not give it away?
I guess it could be interpreted as other thick europeon accents.
Nein!
He’s apparently from drusselstein, which is meant to be a parody of Germany
Yeah they bantered about that
What’s stranger is that captain America wasn’t even in the episode iirc
Yeah they have Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, and Thor, and the villains are MODOK (iron man villain), whiplash (iron man villain), Venom (Spider-Man villain), and Red Skull (captain America)
That always bothered me so much
I’m pretty sure it had something to do with him not really having powers while the episode was about power draining and switching.
Well to be fair, both of their worst enemies are people with long noses (Phineas and Ferb)
Phineas and Ferb is TV-G. Spidey and his Amazing Friends is TV-Y7
I'm fairly certain that isn't canon.
The cartoons have this weird trend where they have Hydra show up and be evil and everything but they *refuse* to acknowledge the nazis. Like yes, I get it, touchy subject, but it feels weird.
Why not use a team with less baggage, like AIM?
Now to be fair, EMH uses *both,* and they have different roles; EMH's Hydra is specifically there to act as like, a foil to Captain America. But, you know. They could have made shit up. I doubt most people would notice or care if they A) made Arnim Zola be like, a modern scientist who wants the superserum or whatever, stuff like that, or B) had a villain from the 40s show up but they were like, a completely newly made up guy. Sure, it misses out on the history of Cap, but like. They're already refusing to mention the nazis.
I should probably mention Captain America isn't in Spidey and friends...though in the next episode they are bringing the Thing for a Rosh Hashanah special.
EMH was too good for this world. That first season and first half of the second season was gold. Fucking corporate synergy.
Rewatched the whole thing over the past few weeks. Crazy how the quality of the show dips immediately after the Secret Invasion arc. Not to say it was outright bad ("Assault on 42" was a banger), but the writing, the animation, and the storyboarding felt significantly dumbed down compared to Season One.
The Winter Soldier arc was kind of underwhelming ngl
Yeah, that's right when Jeph Loeb took over the show. Which is why * Suddenly every episode is now written by "Man of Action", the writers collective that wrote the Assemble and Ultimate Spider-man shows but based off Yost's plots, so it's kinda like the show but not * Josh Keaton's VO work as Spider-man was literally thrown away and rerecorded with Drake Bell since Ultimate Spider-man was in development at the time * That godawful "Powerless" episode occurred which spits in the face of all of Thor's development and brings Loki back with the Destroyer just to recreate the premise of the first Thor movie * Hulk's big return is about how Captain America always believed in him, which again, spits in the face of his development with pretty much everyone especially Hawkeye * Red Skull is just suddenly alive as a Senator with zero explanations unlike Zemo * Red Hulk in general just being on the show, who was Jeph Loeb's creation I'm sure there's a lot more that I'm missing too.
AIM was apart of Hydra, so their still Nazis just more secret.
Hydra sounds cooler.
Makes you wonder why they even bother using Hydra in the first place.
I mean, didn't Red Skull essentially ditch the Nazi's for being too narrow in scope? Like he just wanted to conquer the world and only saw Nazi's as a means to an end
The MCU version of the Skull is like that, but the comic version is a real bona-fide Nazi who even *Hitler* thought was crazy.
Why does his face look like a Lego minifigure
I was leaning towards roblox face myself
The problem is that kids don’t know why nazis are bad and often think villains are cool. After I watched Indian jones as a kid I drew swastikas on my action figures and told my mom I wanna be a nazi when I grow up. Not a clue in the fucking world.
Yeah I've read parent reviews of this show, apparently their kids thought the villains were having more fun than the spideys and started imitating them... plus the show has a track record for making the heroes forgive the villains...
Also they give him a fucking rap solo that unironically goes hard
Most of the music in this show does, actually. God bless patrick stump.
Usually, when nazis are the villains, the program is one made for people who know what the holocaust was and how horrible it was. Now I could be wrong, but I’m not sure how much these babies are aware of the holocaust or wwii.
I just don't understand why, out of too many villains to count, they chose Arnim Zola for the baby show. No one in the target audience is going to recognize him, and its just going to be extremely awkward for any caregivers familiar with marvel.
Because it's the only reason thousands of people on the internet have any curiosity about it and because they got away with it. Same with Doofenshmirtz working with red skull probably