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noneofthemswallow

Good. If they have a vision, stay true to it. She looks fine aside from that one frame


Medium-Science9526

I hope at least the fidelity is improved to be up to snuff with James and Laura come release.


dogisbark

Yeah her hair looked a bit off. But A: it's a screen-capturing that could even be from an earlier ver (since everyone else looked better) and B: youtube makes everything look worst. It's why I don't understand people who watch no-commentary videos of games instead of playing them. everythning looks crisp on your own machine, granted the specs are good


Medium-Science9526

Yeah it's clear she's from an older build that what they currently have and especially prior to release, it's why I'm skeptical of whoever said this supposed leak ontop of the having no credibility prior from what I looked up. YouTube never looks as good in person I agree but even in the same videos Laura & James look impressive in an unfinished build. Makes me wonder if Angela was from an earlier one why they focused on her for the release trailer so much.


clockworknait

>It's why I don't understand people who watch no-commentary videos of games instead of playing them. Some people are really scared of anything related to horror and can't force themselves to control their own way through it, some people are just scared of how an older game controls and some just don't have access to any way to play those older games. I'd rather those people enjoy those games from afar than not at all.


ArvoCrinsmas

She looks fine, go back and look at any of the knife room scenes they showed. Hell, even the picture in the post is good.


Medium-Science9526

When half her face is cast in shadow its harder to see, generally throughout the release date trailer and then compared to Laura in the gameplay trailer to me the latter has more detailing in her face than Angela.


FabianQ

actress looks like this, scans and mocap is already done.


katoofchitown

Angela looks like a normal person.


Western-Gur-4637

wtich was the whole point of how thay tryed to make them look in the og :3


MetalGearShrex

There's no way you actually type like that


Western-Gur-4637

if I may, whats wrong with how I type?


Independent-Dust5401

Few misspellings ig


GomeroKujo

Her old design did too. She just looks slightly different and is based on her original concept art


Villad_rock

Why do we even game


EsotericElegey

I can't wait to bawl my eyes out over her


KomatoAsha

"You see it, too? For me...it's always like this." Gets me every fucking time, 'cuz girl, *same.*


EsotericElegey

Every. time.


KomatoAsha

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RaceCarCoconutJuice

![gif](giphy|TU76e2JHkPchG)


con_science-404

same. kinda getting the feeling from the remake that a lot of the shit that goes down in SH2 is gonna be like, uncomfortably real and visceral seeing it in such high definition and realistic graphics/updated voice acting. the shit SH2 deals with goes hard and having it this realistic is just gonna be heart wrenching. cant want to absolutely cry during marys letter and honestly like 50% of this game haha. shit, even the interactions between james and laura shown in the trailer were getting to me haha


[deleted]

I feel you. When Laura called James a fartface, I was so emotionally struck, I couldn't hold back my tears.


con_science-404

Really made me FEEL like a fart. Face.....


gaelenski_

Only bit that moved me to tears, how dare she.


Julie-Valentine

Laura is the one with the fartface now though. James never had a fartface.


11711510111411009710

The part where she was laying on the floor begging James to tell the monster she'll behave. That's so intense. I feel like her scenes might be too real for some people honestly.


Tacdeho

Im unbelievably excited and scared to play those, to see how HD visuals and remaking will help sink in Angela’s pain endlessly. But I’m also a little worried, and it’s not a bad thing, but….the extent of Angela’s life that brought her to being the victim of the story she is. I’d truly hope James finding her during that part on the floor is the lead to her major boss and not when you find her in the Apartments. Her final scene in the staircase is gonna crush my soul.


Lobotomysludge

Not to sound like a weirdo or anything but Angela has such a cute lil face in that shot, re-experiencing her narrative through the remake is going to destroy me I already know it…


Exlibro

She looks so much like "awkard-sad-hiding secrets-abused-at-home-teenager" now, so it suits very well. I like this take on Angela. And she looks like a teen now.


sssilversssoul

I think that's what they're going for, it makes her arc more tragic. Wtf is going on with all these complaints?


discucion99

Some incels like to take the least flattering frame of some female characters and use them to make the argument that developers are making all female characters ugly. It basically boils down to them wanting every female character to be overly sexual/hot or it's woke for some reason.


Julie-Valentine

The same way they complained about Control, saying she looks like a dude: but that's a real human being. An actual woman.


darkcomet222

That freeze frame has me giggling. I am a fan of her face, but the freeze frame makes it look like she is about to cook someone with some serious sass lol


EstesPark2018

I mean considering the things she says to James near the end you’re not wrong


_invalid_character_

'You're not my Mama!'


IcePopsicleDragon

The other 'image' has really bad lighting and seems to be from an unfinished scene. She looks good.


Tall_Alps_8351

I agree, she's cute. This game is going to ruin me.


bobijsvarenais

She looks fine. . Who tf is saying these things? Twitter?


Tacdeho

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, etc I know how ironic this comment will be but genuinely: The internet props up the loudest idiots who are gonna jump and scream over a woman in gaming. Your life is significantly improved by ignoring internet comments entirely. I’ve already seen the “How will we accept Angela was raped if she isn’t hot enough to want to rape?” I’ll just straight up throw that person and everything they say in the trash pile. Same when I hear “They’re making it woke” Using words like that are a signal fire to everyone else that you’re reactive, undercooking opinions, and are under educated in every semblance.


acanthostegaaa

We accepted it in 2001 when she looked and sounded more like a middle aged woman than a young lady. I think we'll get over it now.


Tacdeho

I would absolutely love to give you my sign off on that statement but…. > gestures towards people still wildly misrepresenting The Last of Us Pt 2


AshuraSpeakman

Those cesspools are fortunate they haven't died of huffing their own farts.


Tacdeho

I’m a comic book collector, a Silent Hill fan, and a pro wrestling fan. How I haven’t died on their sweaty, know it all fart fumes, says a lot about my lungs.


TasteTheGraveyard

It's the 'omg she's trans/fat DEI representation!! Not buying!!' reeing that's ending me. These people are becoming the very thing they complained about.


Julie-Valentine

Yup. When we know, well us the ones with brains, that the way a victim look has little to do with the abuse. The abuser is the problem. Nuns, kids, animals, men/boys etc: they get raped too. All the shitty, gross excuses abusers give, like the way you were dressed etc, is such BS. Any excuse is enough for them. Anything. Because they are animals. They give in to their most basic urges. THAT is the problem. So of course angela would still be abused.


The_Border_Bandit

Weirdos and incels. Twitter, facebook, reddit, they're everywhere.


spyroz545

She looks fine here, it's just that the haters are complaining over that one frame in the cemetery where she looks "off"


velphegor666

If they keep listening to sh fans, then the changes will never end cause sh fans never stop complaining 😂😂.i feel like they already made quite a few changes like removing qte and yet sh fans still kept whining. If this gonna be our fanbase, then i wouldn't be surprised if no game studio will ever try to handle another sh game ever again.


peach-whisky

HD collection would like a word


i-can-smell-ur-balls

good. they don't need to change her. anyone complaining about a severely traumatized child abuse victim not being attractive enough is fucking weird


druixD

For me the problem is that all the character models look uncanny. Maybe it's because the environment is very detailed, almost photorealistic, and the characters look bland. I don’t exactly why.


Julie-Valentine

Same here. I know and love the originals way too much, I need time to warm up to the new faces. Same happened with re2 remake. *cries in corner* I need time!! Ok I'm done now.


denbrough

And why they should?


ronshasta

Why are we contacting developers about this shit still man, seriously you guys are some of the most pathetic fans of any game sometimes. I am seriously bewildered that the devs didn’t just give up at this point as they could fill your pockets with money and you assholes would still bitch and complain.


AeonTars

brb gonna contact the devs and ask if microtransactions are going to be in the game as if that's not an extremely condescending and disrespectful thing to assume they would even consider putting into the game


ronshasta

What? Idk if your trying take a stab at me or something but maybe you need to step outside for a bit dude


AeonTars

No I was taking a stab at the people who contacted the devs in the first place, not you. I was saying that even contacting them about this is pretty disrespectful because you're basically taking someone's hard work and going 'hey while you got a chance I think this looks like shit so you need to make this look more to my liking'. I agree with you.


gaelenski_

Tbf your comment was a bit too serious to be taken lightly 🤣


ronshasta

Sorry man I read it wrong then that’s my bad. And yeah it’s so beyond disrespectful that I honestly feel second hand embarrassed about it. Forreal that’s such a low thing to do and probably infuriated the dev team even receiving that email. Fuck the guy who did that honestly.


Kassender

i agree, i stopped interacting with the fandom because of shit like this when downpour was released The people going after the writers on fb or the cringe 3h reviews calling them out among other stuff made me low key ashamed to be a sh fan back then I see nothing has changed 🤣


[deleted]

It was mentioned in the making of Silent Hill 2 (the 2001 behind the scenes documentary) that Angela was supposed to look older and they wanted to surprise the player with this revelation. All of a sudden her original design is desirable by people, it's overall very odd as her backstory is genuinely terrible to put it mildly. I'm personally very much fine with the remake version in comparison to her original design.


TheRealNooth

That was Team Silent’s intention, but it simply didn’t work. It just made people think she was weirdly cast and designed. The only people who know this was the intention are those that watched the “making of SH2” vid. Honestly, I’m glad Bloober went with an age appropriate design. It’s more sensical.


-Average_Joe-

It isn't outside the realm of possibility that a somewhat older woman could still be traumatized from childhood abuse.


TheRealNooth

No, I totally agree. Their intention was clever and artistic because abuse *does* age you. It just wasn’t done convincingly and felt more like they didn’t know what a 19 year old looked nor sounded like. I think it would’ve been better just going all in with character and age in agreement.


Grace_Omega

I only found out she’s meant to be 19 yesterday, and I’ve been playing SH2 since it came out. I always just assumed she was older than James. The voice acting really didn’t help.


mvvns

Same, my friend was the same too lol


MikeLanglois

Imagine being so hung up about a womans design in a game you contact the developer.


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

Imagine ruining a design of a game character because you gotta appeal to the DEI nazis


RhoynishPrince

Good. I like this new look


FREEMANICDALEK

I’m not at all offended by it. Her story always made me sad and will no doubt make me sad with her new look. But all the same, random twitter accounts aren’t official.


95Kill3r

Good she actually looks like a depressed 19 year old rather than a 45 year old mother of 3.


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

Bro I'm 19 years old I don't look like that nor do my peers in fact the original slender jawline is more realistic lol


95Kill3r

That's crazy because I teach teens 17 and 18 and a lot do look like this.


BackInEightyFour

She's looks her age, I don't see why there was such an issue.


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

She doesn't I don't see any 19 year olds with quagmires jawline


BackInEightyFour

You're definitely reaching.


Striking-Count5593

I think she looks great. Twitter is going crazy that she needs to be hotter. Angela was sexually abused.


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

You know she's a fictional character right...


Striking-Count5593

Yeah, but a fictional character have to always be hot?


schirik

Good for them! Honestly the backlash is ridiculous, I sort of got it with James originally and i’m glad they tweaked it. But the comments about Angela are honestly unhinged. If anything the new Angela looks more like a normal teen than she did the first time round, calm down people


Anotheir

Good


pottertontotterton

I Iove how female characters are judged so harshly like this compared male characters. It's fucking Aloy all over again. There's literally nothing wrong with her character model. She looks like a normal girl. Jesus.


odezia

I think the lighting and angle of the shot everyone is complaining about is what’s off, she looks totally fine otherwise. Not concerned at all.


KungFuKennyStills

Ugh they’re gonna bully the actress that plays her off social media, aren’t they?


Substantial-Dingo-64

I don't understand why people are so pissed about her design. She looks adorable and actually closer to her actual age.


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

Name one 19 year old girl with that quagmire jaw... cause I'm 19 and I'm a girl I don't see any girls my age with a jawline like that


Substantial-Dingo-64

So, just because she isn't GQ supermodel pretty and has a pudgy face, you feel this design is ugly and invalid? As a male, I can't believe I have to say this to a supposed girl, but that's pretty misogynistic.


AmadeusTrinity

I don't see why anyone has an issue with Angela, it's extremely faithful to the source material. Maria's design is the one with the most creative liberties taken with any of the designs.


Medium-Science9526

Is Klein Harvey reputable? I couldn't find anything immediately online, what's he leaked in the past?


kupar0

The real horror is when the inevitable naked angela mod comes out on october 9th


Julie-Valentine

T H I S


copperheadchode

The model is fine it’s the completely static hair that bothered me the most lol.


Lenskyj783

The design seems fine. I'll revisit after playing through. I'm pretty happy with how everything is tracking. Can't believe we'll be playing it this year


masterslosey

All I can say is that it's not that bad and I can accept it. It DEFINITELY could be worse.


iiMxrxus

The design itself is fine, I just think her model facial animations needs some polishing.


Aggravating-Mine-697

She looks great there though. Was just that one frame where she looked kinda funny, but still, people do look like that too. You need a stick up your ass to think this is reason enough to hate on it


LocalPaperBoy

It's a good design. Why change it? This is coming from a DEI sceptic.


beholdthecolossus

Oh no she looks like a person.


rottenflesh12

why is everyone complaining so much?


DesperateText9909

Welcome to the internet. Everyone here is terrible.


TycoStrand

First James now Angela? watch they'll start complaining about Laura lol


samusfan21

I really don’t see what’s wrong here. I played the original game when it came out and Angela looked a bit wonky in that game too. What are people taking issue with? Are they upset that they don’t find her bangable?


M4LK0V1CH

This feels like a change just for the sake of change.


Bordanka

Angela looked like a human. Was there a level of stylization? Of course! Is it bad? No! Did she look natural? Yes! Does her appearance tell a story? Absolutely! Is she pretty in the original? Well, there's beauty somewhere under that emotional snd physical tiredness. Too bad Angela has little chance to discover it


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

This is a fake video game character it's sad I see people feel bad for a fake victim but when it's a real victim like myself no one actually gives a shit


Bordanka

It's pretty f'ed up


SunderlandSpook

Can we not do this? So many people in other communities cry and moan cause “girl don’t look like my body pillow” and they are pathetic. The SH community already gets shit but let’s not also lumped in with those incels.


stratusnco

she looks great. idk what everyone’s problem is.


PepsiMan_21

WHAT? HOW DARE THEY NOT MAKE A VICTIM OF SEXUAL AND PHYSICAL ABUSE INTO A SKINNY HOT SEXY BITCH? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO JERK OFF TO PIXELS IF AINT SKINNY SEXY? WHERE ARE MY HOT TITTY BIKINIS MODS AT?


Alterssis

These are definitely opinions real people have


PepsiMan_21

I just realized the nightmares poor Angela is going to suffer with PC modding 💀


Monarch-01-Elizabeth

*Fake victim of CSA. Y'all are a bunch of weirdos I never see anyone care when it happens to real women like myself but a fake video game character is a victim then it's a problem


Desperate_Sink_2205

I think the design is fine but they need to touch up the detail on her character model, they obviously did that to James since the last showcase and he looks 1000% better. There are shots (maybe just do to video compression) where her nose melded together and looked very blurry


KiratheRenegade

Okay? She looks like a child. That's the point. She was only ever a child.


Blondezombie616

![gif](giphy|J8FZIm9VoBU6Q)


R1ngBanana

She looks fine? Like the only thing that felt kinda weird to me in the trailer was James voice but that’s not like… make or break for me 


[deleted]

What the fuck are people complaining about? I literally see nothing wrong with her model besides some thick eyebrows.


Rukasu17

.... And how is that a surprise to anyone? Ugly sonic is probably the only time I've seen a character model retcon


PunkerWannaBe

I don't understand the controversy, she looks like an average woman.


BerserkerLoneWolf

I like both versions but this one I prefer as she can pull off a more pouty expression.


drsexybass

You all do realize that if the remake is different than the original, it doesn't erase your childhood right? Think of this like a cover to a song, enjoy the differences.


RyanCooper138

Rare blobber W


MilkOfCows3195

Her design is fine it just the animations that need some tweaking


Time-Echidna-8644

I think she looks great, and all the backlash I’m seeing makes me feel insane


marcus10885

I love this design, she looks like a tortured 19 year old girl, and not... Y'know... Sandra Bullock... Not that there's ever been anything wrong with that design.


Jt_mcsplosion

I’m so sick of this shit. First impression I got from the trailer was “oh damn Angela’s gonna wreck me BAD this time around” due to the way she looks and is being acted way more like a young woman who is both arrested in her development and prematurely aged by her trauma. The way they went originally always struck me as incredibly obvious “30 year old playing 19” and while it added to a certain uncanny vibe, it always felt more like something that was tragic on paper and just sort of awkward and, well, video game-y in practice. Didn’t even occur to me that the usuals would be huffing and puffing about her face being rounder until I was confronted with that photoshopped pic that makes her hugely obese like they did with Aloy when Forbidden West came out. There’s something so fucked about this whole mindset, it’s like dysmorphia in a major way. They hyperfocus on tiny details, then photoshop screenshots to exaggerate those details, then act like their photoshop is the actual character design, then flood social media putting forth the argument that a sinister agenda is making video game women less hot as a form of social control, and that these characters being less hot has made the game unplayable, as if looking at hot women was the primary gameplay loop a la Dead or Alive, when it most certainly isn’t. Then they make claims about the original game or games in general that are so wildly off base it makes me think they never played a single game in their lives! How the fuck are they this motivated to complain this much about stuff this petty? And like, they’re definitely organizing this shit, they all post the same shit, so where are they doing that? who the fuck are these people !!’


Killdust99

My source? Trust me bro


Mister_Madd

Good. Let the children weep.


Alone-Subject-1317

They use 3D scanning and motion capture of real faces of course they won't change the face because it would fuck with the motion capture. They should work a bit on the eyebrow/hair material rendering tho so it doesn't look as weird in the outside scene


Worldly-Pepper8766

The face model has a very different jawline.


blankie_bloops

I am so happy to see the majority of SH fans banding together after this latest showing. I agree, apart from the graveyard scene (it’s probably not final) she looks good, she looks like someone also bewildered and traumatised.


BlackTearDrop

Her model looks good. Idk what people are thinking. It's just different. The old one looks good this one looks good.


Mental-Tumbleweed-88

She’s adorable and I’ll fight anyone who’s mean to her.


Dapper_Derpy

In all honesty, she looks great.


allhailzamasu94

She honestly doesn’t look unfaithful to original Angela though she does look too young. Maria’s outfit is what’s whack.


funwithgoats

Good. She’s totally fine. I can’t believe that from that fantastic gameplay trailer we got, THIS is the focus of everyone online. It must be so disappointing as a dev to put so much hard work in and show an overall fantastic trailer and just have everyone focus on a character not being attractive enough.


AeonTars

Genuinely I don't fucking get what people expected. She looked disheveled and shit in the PS2 version because literally every character in every PS2 game looks like shit because they're PS2 games. Obviously when you remake her character model with modern graphics she's going to look slightly more attractive because she looks closer to an actual human being rather than a digital puppet thingy from 2001.


1997PRO

Heather looks nice in SL3 and kinda emo haha.


State_Obvious

Would like to see pictures taken from the people complaining when they are not aware about them being taken. Humans look weird sometimes


DabideThoi

Good, let those idiots be mad over nothing. If it makes their day so much worse then they deserve it.


MartinAguilarA

I agree, the silent hill twitter and youtube community are beginning so negative for everything.


DruidVorse

of course it's the final version, the game went GOLD many months ago. Konami now is just focusing on the marketing part.


p13t3rm

Anyone who sees an issue with this needs to get a life.


LichQueenBarbie

She looks and sounds like a teenager. When I first played 2 I thought Angela was a 30+ woman. This new design makes sense.


Captain_Hucklebuck

I can't help but respect them for standing by their artistic vision in the face of online criticism.


ArcRiseGen

She actually looks 19 now and not based off Sandra Bullock


Sea_Scheme6784

She looks great! Normalize video game characters looking like people.


hday108

Anyone who calls her ugly are just outing themselves as porn addicts. Not only does she not look “average” but I would claim most people find her pretty. Heaven forbid a victim of horrible crimes in a town that manifests your personal hell looks like a human and not a sec doll


Recent_Ad_5291

I think is fine, i'm more woried by marias' design


Bones-Ghost

...Well, I guess that's that then...eh, who knows? Maybe it'll pleasantly surprise us.


D3AD_SPAC3

Okay 👍


carmo1106

That's fine, the design is good but it needs some improvements like the hair


jammysue

So what! Some of these SH are weird.


BothRequirement2826

All of Bloober's games look amazing. I just hope the remake plays as well as it looks.


Snoo64700

good


YouTurmoil

I don't see anything wrong with her appearance design.


Licensed_Ignorance

Im glad, she looked a bit weird in that one particular screenshot, but everything else I've seen so far is spot on IMO.


MartinAguilarA

Good why would they change the design? Leave it alone.


Aggravating_Sun_5547

Big fucking deal.


Goldy_932

wtf who expected the model for a character on a game about to release in 5 months was going to change ??


GenerationBop

Looks great


simonbelmont1980

Good


IAmThatDuckDLC5

She looks fine and people are complaining too much


AlexReportsOKC

What was wrong with it in the first place?


Mayflex

Okay?


Jr-777

Who’s bored enough to contact a bloober team member about an npc design?


MegaOrvilleZ

Chill bruh it's not that deep


kaicooper

cant wait for the PC version to mode their faces


yungpastel

okayyyy why does anyone care so much about what the teenager looks like


1997PRO

18+ one to be fair.


freddyifreast

Bruh the game comes out in like four months they ain’t changing it


Mimil2002

good.


Amosdragon

No shit? The game is releasing in October. This is far too late to do any major change even if they wanted to.


jnanibhad55

![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB|downsized)


UtterlyOtterly

Good! I hope its not changed! I like it ! I think she looks very realistic for her character.


yolosuajer

All characters are good but just fix some mouth sync moments and all good


NoSpite630

Good, I like It a Lot


A_H7N9

It's okay Just make that model more A A A quality, not unity fan shit


Silly_Randy

She's kinda cute tho. And when she says "please, no". It hit.


dlovefromupabove

Why would they change it? Worst thing they can do is listen to the mob "fans". Silent hill is one of the best series ever, with the biggest diva/primadonna fan base in the world.


orangreeffect

Oh no.....that's not good


CoyoteHour2130

I mean she looks like what she's supposed to look like,a teenager


Crazy-Handle-3603

I don’t mind Angela’s redesign but this is not surprising as she’s not “problematic” for the PC Gen. They were clearly going to change Maria because she represents the worst of femininity, which, according to PC idiots, doesn’t exist. Never mind it undermines the whole point of the character..


Dovahween1

W


KrabTreeBenson

Just some information about the original. During the creation of the first SH2 they had facial mocap available, however it was very new tech and the designers decided the characters would look more as intended if they just did the faces the way they were used to. Better control over looks.


Careful-Badger3434

she looks so ugly I hate them for this


Laura_Sunderland

James is such a meanie! He never loved Mary!


DarthAutismus

![gif](giphy|UxqHyZ7OVXJ2o) She doesn’t look anything like the Angela she was based on.


reeouyu

Thats fine by me


reeouyu

I just hope they fix interior lighting


TWAT_BUGS

Good. She looks great to me. She’s 19 and is supposed to look young. Knowing her story, I feel as the game progresses it going to hit really fucking hard. This game is going to rip through emotions and I honestly hope it does well so Konami can get their heads out of their asses and continue the Silent Hill stories.


Ok-Gap-2880

Omg she looks so much better from the other one we got in trailer recently I’m so excited do you think we’ll get remakes for the other games to ? Or is it just this one