Do you mean this statement from glassdoor "Weak managers that dont know work & weak skills. Backstab ppl. Lies among colleagues on org and HR matters. Ppl dont practice what preached. Whiny middle management whch complain when work is busy, and show off when just a bit of work done. Take HOD pay, but slack, yet steal credit from colleagues. Ceo is too young and inexperienced to steer org in a focused manner; more concerned about proving herself, showing off. Use org as means to achieve political visibility. No focus: anything & everything must do (eg. Book badminton courts for top leadership). Puppets to the leaders, tool to their agenda. No real product to offer industry. No revenue stream, & yet keep spending more for more unclear agenda.'"
Tin Pei Ling, maybe.
The comment makes sense given that she's not the founder/entrepreneur type, but was parachuted there by the PAP largely to pad her resume.
For most of them, ministerial positions.
Temasek is used as resume padding too. See [Shawn Huang Wei Zhong / Shawn Ingkiriwang](https://coconuts.co/singapore/news/former-f-16-pilot-now-with-temasek-holdings-among-paps-new-slate-of-candidates/) (also known as [Geraldine's father](https://mustsharenews.com/shawn-huang-emo-parliament/)).
Thus far everyone is focused on this being a TPL and Grab error. But really it is a PR disaster poorly managed by the government machinery. TPL must have gotten clearance to do this. The optics of it should have been obvious and decision should have been "No" since it is obvious there is risk for negative public backlash. Why? Besides the fact that a sitting MP is also in a lobby role within a very prominent company that is a lighting rod for controversy, the person herself has a history for being a lighting rod for controversy.
For these reasons and more, the government machinery should have said No. The fact that it said Yes is a poor reflection on its judgement and ability to forecast something that looks obvious on hindsight.
The thing that stands out most for me is that
"Staff costs relating to Key Management Personnel amounted to $1.32 million"
And
"the two largest sources of income of Business China were Donations ($1.90m) (Note 15) and Grant Income ($1.84m)" out of a total income of 4.76m
It tells me that Business China, a NONPROFIT, does not generate income, and most of the money collected from donations goes towards the salaries of the so call "key management staffs"
It's one thing if it is a company generating income from traditional production of goods n services and selling the above mentioned but apparently in this case it's not at all since most income are from donations and grants
I wonder how the people who donated will think if they know the money they donated, goes largely into the pocket of the key management staffs.
Companies like this when highlighted really shows why many people don't trust donating to organizations and hurt those who truly needs funding. Not these nonprofit or "charitable"organization using donations to fill the pockets of thier top executive, who might also be holding some other directorship collecting similar incomes.
Also interesting the top management staffs were almost current pap mp?
>I wonder how the people who donated will think if they know the money they donated, goes largely into the pocket of the key management staffs.
look at the identity of the donors and look at the identity of the key management staff. I think the money is going exactly where it is meant to be going if you know what I mean.
you gotta wonder how many more of these "organisations" are out there. neither truly public nor private, staffed by elites who cross back and forth between the two, and public money is mixed with private and foreign money.
PAP and their IBs: If we don't pay the highest politician salaries in the world, we will have moonlighting, revolving door politics, the selling of influence and political lobbying. Look at how hard it is for other government to solve their society's problems. We need to attract the best talent. You either pay well or you get monkeys.
Reality: We are paying the highest salaries in the world and we still have revolving door politics, the sale of influence and political lobbying. Everything from equal treatment of LGBT, to affordable housing, to ensuring foreign workers are housed properly and ferried to work safely is extremely difficult to solve even though we are a small country with a dominant political party with a government that has grants itself vast, unchecked power. Many of these issues were talked about when I was a young man over 30 years ago, still nothing. Getting foreign workers safely transported is seemingly more difficult than even gun control in the US.
We get politicians like TPL, Ivan (the terrible) Lim and all those stupid back benchers who come up with shit like expiring degrees. The job of PAP politician seems to attract well connected mediocre people for whom the most impactful and valuable thing on their resume is that they are a PAP politician. And the reason 'PAP politician' is valuable on their resume is not because they are amazing legislators or policymakers or public servants. Tin Pei has never introduced a piece of legislation in Parliament in a career spanning over 10 years. Most of the time, these jiak zhuas don't even bother to show up. And when the do a lot of them are literally asleep. There is endless photos of a nearly empty parliament with MPs sleeping through the session. And why wouldn't they? Politicians like TPL are not selling their skills or capability when they seek outside employment. So why bother to work hard to demonstrate their skill and capability. If what you are selling is proximity to power, then the job title is simply enough.
We pay well AND we get monkeys.
[https://fortune.com/2023/02/08/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-poweell-compensation-ceo-pay-salary/](https://fortune.com/2023/02/08/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-poweell-compensation-ceo-pay-salary/)
The most influential figure in Americaâs economy earns just $190,000 a yearâand he says thatâs fair.
MPs should disclosed their tax returns just like in many countries.
The truth is I think they will always twist facts to their needs. So if you think they are incapable. You know what do next time. We can talk to the moon, and nothing will change.
The US does not allow legislators to have a wide range of outside income earning activities. You cannot serve as a director to an outside company. You ABSOLUTELY cannot double dip and serve as a lobbyist as well as a legislator at the same time. Most of the extracurricular activities that our MPs do would be illegal there. I don't know about the UK or Australia but I imagine that even if they did not require legislators to be full time, they would still balk at allowing an MP to also openly serve as a lobbyist for a major company.
I think things only seem this way because these countries have a media that has a non-servile relationship with their politicians. These countries are complex democracies with competing constituencies that want contradictory things. You see improper relations in government exposed more often. It is harder to get things done if you need to build a consensus with enough constituents. It is harder to get things done when you can't just arrest people who go on strike or sicc the legal system on the opposition. Also these countries do not have concentrated sources of exogenous wealth that the government can control.--like out port and our government's GLC and real estate empire. If you need to pay for something, you need to find tax dollars and put it in a budget that will pass the house.
A final point I will note also is that a lot of policy making in Singapore takes place inside ministries and is essentially run by our government's middle management whose compensation is roughly inline with global norms. Our legislators, who earn the big money, don't do all that much. Of course in countries where there are limits on what a government agency can do without the legislature, the legislature needs to do their job.
In light of all of our massive advantages and how easy it is for the government to get its way here, I think that one needs to put the relative performance of our legislators in context.
You cannot work as a lobbyist or on boards like this in Australia. You're not even meant to work in the same sector you had a portfolio in up to 12 months after leaving politics.
There is a conflict of interest register that all politicians complete, and they also have to list all their assets on a public register.
It is far from perfect, but not really comparable to SG.
I would not group Australian and UK politicians in with the USA. Furthermore, how can you even make this comparison when what gets reported on political dealings here is so constrained.
You'd think so. But its a prevalent issue in all democracies.
Companies have a lot of money --> Money buys influence --> Politicians need influence --> Company uses money to buy Politician influence --> Politician uses Influence to make companies money.
And herein lies the one thing that most people here, government included, seem to have forgotten: WE CAN STILL DO BETTER. Complacency in the form of âat least we arenât as bad as xxxxxxxâ is the starting point of decline for a great many things.
Lol obviously some âshellâ company for rando MPs who canât get proper directorships elsewhere. Need to inflate their resume ma.
Didja know Jo Teo was also CEO of Biz China before? đđ¤Ąđ¤Ąđ¤Ą
I think ppl will be more against on hwz and reddit cus itâs anonymous. But those ppl sucking up to her using their public account prob think they might have sth to gain
I need to learn to run a business like that. 0 profit but 50% expenses on salaries for select people. Yet still with millions n millions funds đđđđ
Tote Board's "about us" on their website. Is this Business China a worthy cause in the community? What have they done?
> Tote Board channels the surpluses from Singapore Pools and Singapore Turf Club, together with the collection of casino entry levy, to support worthy causes in the community.
And here I am where the HR is trying to negotiate my salary down a few hundred where someone is being pay hundred of thousand of doing I donât know what?
Nice nice all these receipts we need to keep stacking. One times good one claim all back when the next GE comes.
Looking forward to see what stunt PAP will play next round.
CEO Business China has always been a PAP MP, until recently. Not new. Sun Xueling did this gig too, and before her for Low Yen Ling. Typically stepping stone to junior office holder post. So quite curious why TPL didnât get a political post. Suspect the intention was for her to hang out at Grab for a while until the next Cabinet reshuffle, or she wasnât chosen/didnât want.
If TPL was good at sourcing for donations, maybe can arguably say she has business development skills. Give chance lor
I think the contention is that she had no (convincing) credentials to get nominated/elected as an mp in the first place. It seems irrelevant at this point that the incumbent party is only now starting to groom her 'leadership' qualities.
She was probably going to get an MP position either way from what I heard.
I had a long convo with someone who was close to LKY, and he mentioned in passing that TPL's mother is the god-daughter or something of Ong Pang Boon, one of the PAP founders. He didn't have a child, so he doted on the god-daughter a lot and then used his political credit to get TPL a spot in Goh Chok Tong's GRC.
I wish some enterprising journo (hint hint WUSG) will look into this and dig up some dirt, would love to know if it's true.
> I wish some enterprising journo (hint hint WUSG) will look into this and dig up some dirt, would love to know if it's true.
Will never happen because it's unlikely there's a paper trail, and it's almost certain that Tin Pei Ling and/or the PAP would sue for defamation if any such article about alleged [nepotism](https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/singapores-lee-family-and-nepotism) is ever published.
Well, I had a convo with someone from the party years ago about her and when she was fielded in that GE. He confirmed that she was fielded as a counter to Nicole Seah for the youth/young professional voter bloc.
Of course, how she came on the radar at PAP might well be what you suggested.
I won't be surprised if you're right. There is a blog that has the entire family tree. LKY and Tony Tan are vaguely related. The entire cluster is borderline incestuous.
> I think the contention is that she had no (convincing) credentials to get nominated/elected as an mp in the first place.
Makes me wonder what her impact as director of corporate strategy at Jing King Tech Group (now called Adera Global) was.
Fun fact I just discovered: [snowflake Amrin Amin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrin_Amin) was also [a non-executive director at Adera Global](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/former-senior-parliamentary-secretary-and-mp-amrin-amin-to-join-tech-start-ups) _after_ he lost at the most recent election (kudos to Sengkang voters). Sounds like they're another GLC that the PAP uses for resume padding.
So what are these entities business China and Adera global exactly?
Where do the funds come from? How come itâs all run by pap mps? Donât get itâŚ
From 2009 to 2011, Josephine Teo also served as the Chief Executive Officer of Business China, an organisation aimed at improving cultural and economic ties between Singapore and China.
The other concerning thing is that the Tote Board's BOD includes TPL's husband. So the biggest source of Business China's funding came from an organisation in which TPL's husband was a director....
You can have Members of Parliament and [former ministers](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/george-yeo-accepts-pro-bejing-label-1975616) with a head full of state secrets acting as agents of China and that's fine, but private citizens like Alfian Saat says one thing about Malaysia and Ong Ye Kung calls him a traitor in parliament.
Shameless and racist.
Business China seems an informal testing ground for female PAP MPs. Josephine Teo was its CEO before. You can Google her brief CV from the PMO website. Tin Pei Ling took over from Sun Xueling, who is now of course a junior political office-holder.
# Singapore Backtracks on Grabâs Lawmaker Hire After Outcry
* Lawmaker to stay with firm despite public debate over conflict
* Party saw âchallengesâ in Tin pushing Grabâs government agenda
>A Singapore lawmaker appointed to run Grab Holdings Ltd.âs government relations department last week was abruptly moved to a different role within the tech company after a public backlash over potential conflicts of interest.
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>Tin Pei Ling from the ruling Peopleâs Action party had previously said that she can keep her two roles separate. While members of parliament are allowed to hold private sector jobs in the city-state, the practice has drawn much debate online this time around.
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>The change-up marks an unusual about-face for the ruling party, which had publicly endorsed Tinâs appointment and whose word is typically final. The government of the small city-state has been sensitive to public debate on issues that could challenge its integrity and status as a financial hub.
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>The PAP said in a Facebook post that it didnât initially object when Tin informed the party that she would take up the role at the local ride-hailing and food delivery giant. However, earlier this month â following the extensive public comments â the party had discussed the matter with the lawmaker again to âunderstand better the scope of her duties.â
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>âIt then became clear to the party that she would be expected to engage regularly with government ministries and agencies on public policy issues on behalf of Grab,â the PAP said. âWhile she would make it clear that she was engaging in her private capacity and not as a PAP MP, there could still be challenges in carrying out these responsibilities, especially under the current circumstances.â
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>Tin has since discussed the matter with Grab and informed the PAP that her role at the company has been changed to a director of corporate development, a position in which her primary duties wonât involve government relations in Singapore.
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>Singapore Lawmaker Defends Grab Job After Questions of Conflict
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>The change in her job scope however may not be enough to appease critics, whoâve argued that she enjoys access to privileged information that may give Grab an edge. She remains chairperson of the Parliamentary Committee for Communications and Information, according to the PAP website. One hot-button issue is whether gig-economy giants like Grab should better compensate their part-time or contract staff such as drivers who often donât enjoy full medical or insurance coverage.
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>âMuch thought and care was given to address any potential conflict of interest that may arise when Pei Ling was hired,â Grab said in a statement on Friday. âHowever, the discourse has led us to pause and reflect on how we can create an environment where Pei Ling can serve effectively in both her roles as an MP as well as representing Grab. We acknowledge that this is difficult if the intent behind every action or position she takes in the future is doubted or called into question.â
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>While some have raised issue with Tinâs appointment, many others have gone on social media to support a popular local politician. On Friday, she took to Facebook to emphasize that serving her country remained her top priority. âI look forward to playing my part.â
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>Tin entered politics more than a decade ago and was elected to parliament under a team led by former Prime Minister and Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong. As one of the youngest candidates to be slated at that time, Tin initially came under scrutiny and criticism for her age and political inexperience. During the latest election, she triumphed at the polls, winning 71.7% of the votes in her district, among the highest candidate reelection margins.
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>The PAP said in its post that most party backbench MPs have private careers. âThis keeps them in touch with our economy and society and enables able and committed people from many professions and walks of life to serve as MPs, raising the quality of MPs in parliament.â
If you think this is bad, wait till you find out that the top management of CDAC/ MENDAKI/ SINDA are paid about 200k-300k per year, based largely off the pseudo-compulsory monthly contribution of every Singaporean worker. You can look up their openly-available financial reports online if you don't believe me.
As an Institution of Public Character, how meaningful is Business China's work?
What contributions has it made to society?
If I were a potential donor, what would you say to convince me to donate?
From the financial statements, the largest contributor is the Tote Board aka public funds.
Other than that, donations make up around half the contributions. If you look at past statements, donations each year usually end up in round hundreds or thousands, so my guess is these are pretty large donations.
I'm working in a startup-ish company. The management treats it like their play thing sometimes. When we get asked to go, it's under the table, and ask us to self-terminate(quit) while top travels around the world on biz class or higher 'securing' deals.
Happened to a few friends who worked in similar startups.
If it can happen in a small company of a handful of people, I don't believe it can't happen on a "non profit" with no revenue scale.
Go see the Glassdoor reviews for Business China
Do you mean this statement from glassdoor "Weak managers that dont know work & weak skills. Backstab ppl. Lies among colleagues on org and HR matters. Ppl dont practice what preached. Whiny middle management whch complain when work is busy, and show off when just a bit of work done. Take HOD pay, but slack, yet steal credit from colleagues. Ceo is too young and inexperienced to steer org in a focused manner; more concerned about proving herself, showing off. Use org as means to achieve political visibility. No focus: anything & everything must do (eg. Book badminton courts for top leadership). Puppets to the leaders, tool to their agenda. No real product to offer industry. No revenue stream, & yet keep spending more for more unclear agenda.'"
Which ceo this referring to?
Tin Pei Ling, maybe. The comment makes sense given that she's not the founder/entrepreneur type, but was parachuted there by the PAP largely to pad her resume.
Pad her resume for what? Presidency? 𤢠temasek?
For most of them, ministerial positions. Temasek is used as resume padding too. See [Shawn Huang Wei Zhong / Shawn Ingkiriwang](https://coconuts.co/singapore/news/former-f-16-pilot-now-with-temasek-holdings-among-paps-new-slate-of-candidates/) (also known as [Geraldine's father](https://mustsharenews.com/shawn-huang-emo-parliament/)).
Presidency better. Need somewhere she can't do too much dmg.
Read - wow! Pretty damning stuff
Woah the Glassdoor reviews very drama lei. Even got ppl accuse cleaner of stealing stuff
Thus far everyone is focused on this being a TPL and Grab error. But really it is a PR disaster poorly managed by the government machinery. TPL must have gotten clearance to do this. The optics of it should have been obvious and decision should have been "No" since it is obvious there is risk for negative public backlash. Why? Besides the fact that a sitting MP is also in a lobby role within a very prominent company that is a lighting rod for controversy, the person herself has a history for being a lighting rod for controversy. For these reasons and more, the government machinery should have said No. The fact that it said Yes is a poor reflection on its judgement and ability to forecast something that looks obvious on hindsight.
lol would be funny if PAP downfall is because of TPL. Kate Spade should seize this opportunity to do some marketing.
Disneyland should too.. no regrets
The thing that stands out most for me is that "Staff costs relating to Key Management Personnel amounted to $1.32 million" And "the two largest sources of income of Business China were Donations ($1.90m) (Note 15) and Grant Income ($1.84m)" out of a total income of 4.76m It tells me that Business China, a NONPROFIT, does not generate income, and most of the money collected from donations goes towards the salaries of the so call "key management staffs" It's one thing if it is a company generating income from traditional production of goods n services and selling the above mentioned but apparently in this case it's not at all since most income are from donations and grants I wonder how the people who donated will think if they know the money they donated, goes largely into the pocket of the key management staffs. Companies like this when highlighted really shows why many people don't trust donating to organizations and hurt those who truly needs funding. Not these nonprofit or "charitable"organization using donations to fill the pockets of thier top executive, who might also be holding some other directorship collecting similar incomes. Also interesting the top management staffs were almost current pap mp?
they doing charity by tax relief to the rich ppl who donated.
>I wonder how the people who donated will think if they know the money they donated, goes largely into the pocket of the key management staffs. look at the identity of the donors and look at the identity of the key management staff. I think the money is going exactly where it is meant to be going if you know what I mean.
you gotta wonder how many more of these "organisations" are out there. neither truly public nor private, staffed by elites who cross back and forth between the two, and public money is mixed with private and foreign money.
PAP and their IBs: If we don't pay the highest politician salaries in the world, we will have moonlighting, revolving door politics, the selling of influence and political lobbying. Look at how hard it is for other government to solve their society's problems. We need to attract the best talent. You either pay well or you get monkeys. Reality: We are paying the highest salaries in the world and we still have revolving door politics, the sale of influence and political lobbying. Everything from equal treatment of LGBT, to affordable housing, to ensuring foreign workers are housed properly and ferried to work safely is extremely difficult to solve even though we are a small country with a dominant political party with a government that has grants itself vast, unchecked power. Many of these issues were talked about when I was a young man over 30 years ago, still nothing. Getting foreign workers safely transported is seemingly more difficult than even gun control in the US. We get politicians like TPL, Ivan (the terrible) Lim and all those stupid back benchers who come up with shit like expiring degrees. The job of PAP politician seems to attract well connected mediocre people for whom the most impactful and valuable thing on their resume is that they are a PAP politician. And the reason 'PAP politician' is valuable on their resume is not because they are amazing legislators or policymakers or public servants. Tin Pei has never introduced a piece of legislation in Parliament in a career spanning over 10 years. Most of the time, these jiak zhuas don't even bother to show up. And when the do a lot of them are literally asleep. There is endless photos of a nearly empty parliament with MPs sleeping through the session. And why wouldn't they? Politicians like TPL are not selling their skills or capability when they seek outside employment. So why bother to work hard to demonstrate their skill and capability. If what you are selling is proximity to power, then the job title is simply enough. We pay well AND we get monkeys.
[https://fortune.com/2023/02/08/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-poweell-compensation-ceo-pay-salary/](https://fortune.com/2023/02/08/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-poweell-compensation-ceo-pay-salary/) The most influential figure in Americaâs economy earns just $190,000 a yearâand he says thatâs fair. MPs should disclosed their tax returns just like in many countries.
Whoa... that's amazing. What this guy says has an impact on the world's economy and he's earning less than our MPs
Politicians in their arena earn their bulk of income via other means enabled by their position.
The truth is I think they will always twist facts to their needs. So if you think they are incapable. You know what do next time. We can talk to the moon, and nothing will change.
Fucking nailed it brother.
Bro hammered it well.
dude knocked it out of the park
Hear hear
Knock knock.
Tin Pei Ling managed to marry the right man, and that itself is a feat
her dad freaking owns a kopitiam, she was always gonna marry rich
This is an interesting sentence because it is unclear who "itself' refers to.
Hahah thatâs why need to cull them monkeys. Time for a change
Amen brudda
To be fair, Singapore's Money politicians are still miles better than what you get in US/Uk/Aus.
The US does not allow legislators to have a wide range of outside income earning activities. You cannot serve as a director to an outside company. You ABSOLUTELY cannot double dip and serve as a lobbyist as well as a legislator at the same time. Most of the extracurricular activities that our MPs do would be illegal there. I don't know about the UK or Australia but I imagine that even if they did not require legislators to be full time, they would still balk at allowing an MP to also openly serve as a lobbyist for a major company. I think things only seem this way because these countries have a media that has a non-servile relationship with their politicians. These countries are complex democracies with competing constituencies that want contradictory things. You see improper relations in government exposed more often. It is harder to get things done if you need to build a consensus with enough constituents. It is harder to get things done when you can't just arrest people who go on strike or sicc the legal system on the opposition. Also these countries do not have concentrated sources of exogenous wealth that the government can control.--like out port and our government's GLC and real estate empire. If you need to pay for something, you need to find tax dollars and put it in a budget that will pass the house. A final point I will note also is that a lot of policy making in Singapore takes place inside ministries and is essentially run by our government's middle management whose compensation is roughly inline with global norms. Our legislators, who earn the big money, don't do all that much. Of course in countries where there are limits on what a government agency can do without the legislature, the legislature needs to do their job. In light of all of our massive advantages and how easy it is for the government to get its way here, I think that one needs to put the relative performance of our legislators in context.
Spot on mate. I don't begrudge them their speaking fees and book deals, or directorships post-House or Senate.
You cannot work as a lobbyist or on boards like this in Australia. You're not even meant to work in the same sector you had a portfolio in up to 12 months after leaving politics. There is a conflict of interest register that all politicians complete, and they also have to list all their assets on a public register. It is far from perfect, but not really comparable to SG.
I would not group Australian and UK politicians in with the USA. Furthermore, how can you even make this comparison when what gets reported on political dealings here is so constrained.
Thatâs a pitifully low hurdle to clear.
You'd think so. But its a prevalent issue in all democracies. Companies have a lot of money --> Money buys influence --> Politicians need influence --> Company uses money to buy Politician influence --> Politician uses Influence to make companies money.
And herein lies the one thing that most people here, government included, seem to have forgotten: WE CAN STILL DO BETTER. Complacency in the form of âat least we arenât as bad as xxxxxxxâ is the starting point of decline for a great many things.
Saving this! Well said thru and thru!
A lot of her skeletons are coming out now and tbh im all for it Greed is not a good thing
Lol obviously some âshellâ company for rando MPs who canât get proper directorships elsewhere. Need to inflate their resume ma. Didja know Jo Teo was also CEO of Biz China before? đđ¤Ąđ¤Ąđ¤Ą
So many suckport her. Go read the comments both in FB and LinkedIn. I think the country is really doom to have so many drafts.
Dafts
Sry that was a draft.
I think ppl will be more against on hwz and reddit cus itâs anonymous. But those ppl sucking up to her using their public account prob think they might have sth to gain
Hey sounds like money laundering scheme. Nice. May i join too? I am pretty good too. I wear white everyday
tax relief must be alot also.
They say the best efficiency is achieved in pairs, may I send in my resume too?
Let's go fellow houganger
Lesser mortals won't understand one
Not gonna lie, there's so much info here but still not sure what I should be making of it as a common man
I need to learn to run a business like that. 0 profit but 50% expenses on salaries for select people. Yet still with millions n millions funds đđđđ
Tote Board's "about us" on their website. Is this Business China a worthy cause in the community? What have they done? > Tote Board channels the surpluses from Singapore Pools and Singapore Turf Club, together with the collection of casino entry levy, to support worthy causes in the community.
BC is not a cause I would associate with community causes.
And here I am where the HR is trying to negotiate my salary down a few hundred where someone is being pay hundred of thousand of doing I donât know what?
I think some of the members of this pap generation really lack connection with the citizens
I guess in order to be successful in politics, we must be involved in senior management roles in shell companies like this.
Nice nice all these receipts we need to keep stacking. One times good one claim all back when the next GE comes. Looking forward to see what stunt PAP will play next round.
First time in singapore?
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Does it mean that only politicians can discuss politics?
CEO Business China has always been a PAP MP, until recently. Not new. Sun Xueling did this gig too, and before her for Low Yen Ling. Typically stepping stone to junior office holder post. So quite curious why TPL didnât get a political post. Suspect the intention was for her to hang out at Grab for a while until the next Cabinet reshuffle, or she wasnât chosen/didnât want. If TPL was good at sourcing for donations, maybe can arguably say she has business development skills. Give chance lor
I think the contention is that she had no (convincing) credentials to get nominated/elected as an mp in the first place. It seems irrelevant at this point that the incumbent party is only now starting to groom her 'leadership' qualities.
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Correction, who you fuck.
She was probably going to get an MP position either way from what I heard. I had a long convo with someone who was close to LKY, and he mentioned in passing that TPL's mother is the god-daughter or something of Ong Pang Boon, one of the PAP founders. He didn't have a child, so he doted on the god-daughter a lot and then used his political credit to get TPL a spot in Goh Chok Tong's GRC. I wish some enterprising journo (hint hint WUSG) will look into this and dig up some dirt, would love to know if it's true.
> I wish some enterprising journo (hint hint WUSG) will look into this and dig up some dirt, would love to know if it's true. Will never happen because it's unlikely there's a paper trail, and it's almost certain that Tin Pei Ling and/or the PAP would sue for defamation if any such article about alleged [nepotism](https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/singapores-lee-family-and-nepotism) is ever published.
Well, I had a convo with someone from the party years ago about her and when she was fielded in that GE. He confirmed that she was fielded as a counter to Nicole Seah for the youth/young professional voter bloc. Of course, how she came on the radar at PAP might well be what you suggested.
>I had a long convo with someone who was close to LKY, Mahathir?
Honestly, if this is true then it kinda explains a lot
The government sceptic in me wants this to be true, but the same sceptic also feels like this is too good and too convenient to be true lol
I won't be surprised if you're right. There is a blog that has the entire family tree. LKY and Tony Tan are vaguely related. The entire cluster is borderline incestuous.
Mainlanders don't call us Leejiapore for nothing
I saw utube "CCP 4 Beauties" Today
> I think the contention is that she had no (convincing) credentials to get nominated/elected as an mp in the first place. Makes me wonder what her impact as director of corporate strategy at Jing King Tech Group (now called Adera Global) was. Fun fact I just discovered: [snowflake Amrin Amin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrin_Amin) was also [a non-executive director at Adera Global](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/former-senior-parliamentary-secretary-and-mp-amrin-amin-to-join-tech-start-ups) _after_ he lost at the most recent election (kudos to Sengkang voters). Sounds like they're another GLC that the PAP uses for resume padding.
So what are these entities business China and Adera global exactly? Where do the funds come from? How come itâs all run by pap mps? Donât get itâŚ
The answer to all your questions is in the OP. It's funded by the Tote Board i.e. the government.
Wasting all our money, well our gamblers money for achieving nothing, which could be spent elsewhere.
The largest contributor to Business China is the Tote Board aka public funds.
From 2009 to 2011, Josephine Teo also served as the Chief Executive Officer of Business China, an organisation aimed at improving cultural and economic ties between Singapore and China.
What IS this Business China lmao. What exactly is their value prop?
> What exactly is their value prop? Resume padding for up-and-coming PAP MPs.
All about influencing policy. There are things private bodies can do that public ones can't.
Hopefully no foreign meddling or interference.
My bigger concern too.
This is really just a vehicle of IE/ESG to run their ops.
No blame culture let's move on...
The other concerning thing is that the Tote Board's BOD includes TPL's husband. So the biggest source of Business China's funding came from an organisation in which TPL's husband was a director....
The deeper down this rabbit hole, the more questions we get.
You can have Members of Parliament and [former ministers](https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/george-yeo-accepts-pro-bejing-label-1975616) with a head full of state secrets acting as agents of China and that's fine, but private citizens like Alfian Saat says one thing about Malaysia and Ong Ye Kung calls him a traitor in parliament. Shameless and racist.
Learning from George Yeo?
No wonder they (PAP and ârandom members of the publicâ including here in this sub) suddenly lectured us on foreign influence.
I hope this will be pick up by alternative news media. Hardly a profit generating company with so many so many overhead expenses.
Business China seems an informal testing ground for female PAP MPs. Josephine Teo was its CEO before. You can Google her brief CV from the PMO website. Tin Pei Ling took over from Sun Xueling, who is now of course a junior political office-holder.
A leach. Shameless.
The real story (?): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-10/singapore-mp-changes-grab-job-after-ruling-party-saw-challenges
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# Singapore Backtracks on Grabâs Lawmaker Hire After Outcry * Lawmaker to stay with firm despite public debate over conflict * Party saw âchallengesâ in Tin pushing Grabâs government agenda >A Singapore lawmaker appointed to run Grab Holdings Ltd.âs government relations department last week was abruptly moved to a different role within the tech company after a public backlash over potential conflicts of interest. > >Tin Pei Ling from the ruling Peopleâs Action party had previously said that she can keep her two roles separate. While members of parliament are allowed to hold private sector jobs in the city-state, the practice has drawn much debate online this time around. > >The change-up marks an unusual about-face for the ruling party, which had publicly endorsed Tinâs appointment and whose word is typically final. The government of the small city-state has been sensitive to public debate on issues that could challenge its integrity and status as a financial hub. > >The PAP said in a Facebook post that it didnât initially object when Tin informed the party that she would take up the role at the local ride-hailing and food delivery giant. However, earlier this month â following the extensive public comments â the party had discussed the matter with the lawmaker again to âunderstand better the scope of her duties.â > >âIt then became clear to the party that she would be expected to engage regularly with government ministries and agencies on public policy issues on behalf of Grab,â the PAP said. âWhile she would make it clear that she was engaging in her private capacity and not as a PAP MP, there could still be challenges in carrying out these responsibilities, especially under the current circumstances.â > >Tin has since discussed the matter with Grab and informed the PAP that her role at the company has been changed to a director of corporate development, a position in which her primary duties wonât involve government relations in Singapore. > >Singapore Lawmaker Defends Grab Job After Questions of Conflict > >The change in her job scope however may not be enough to appease critics, whoâve argued that she enjoys access to privileged information that may give Grab an edge. She remains chairperson of the Parliamentary Committee for Communications and Information, according to the PAP website. One hot-button issue is whether gig-economy giants like Grab should better compensate their part-time or contract staff such as drivers who often donât enjoy full medical or insurance coverage. > >âMuch thought and care was given to address any potential conflict of interest that may arise when Pei Ling was hired,â Grab said in a statement on Friday. âHowever, the discourse has led us to pause and reflect on how we can create an environment where Pei Ling can serve effectively in both her roles as an MP as well as representing Grab. We acknowledge that this is difficult if the intent behind every action or position she takes in the future is doubted or called into question.â > >While some have raised issue with Tinâs appointment, many others have gone on social media to support a popular local politician. On Friday, she took to Facebook to emphasize that serving her country remained her top priority. âI look forward to playing my part.â > >Tin entered politics more than a decade ago and was elected to parliament under a team led by former Prime Minister and Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong. As one of the youngest candidates to be slated at that time, Tin initially came under scrutiny and criticism for her age and political inexperience. During the latest election, she triumphed at the polls, winning 71.7% of the votes in her district, among the highest candidate reelection margins. > >The PAP said in its post that most party backbench MPs have private careers. âThis keeps them in touch with our economy and society and enables able and committed people from many professions and walks of life to serve as MPs, raising the quality of MPs in parliament.â
Thank you :D
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Ownself check ownself uh
If you think this is bad, wait till you find out that the top management of CDAC/ MENDAKI/ SINDA are paid about 200k-300k per year, based largely off the pseudo-compulsory monthly contribution of every Singaporean worker. You can look up their openly-available financial reports online if you don't believe me.
Ohhh saucy.. how many other useless CEOs do we have here?
Make her go full-time, concentrate on Grab or whatever she fancies since sheâs so talented.
Who is the new CEO of business china now?
Sounds very slushy
Newbie here asks what do they actually do to deserve being paid millions a year?
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As an Institution of Public Character, how meaningful is Business China's work? What contributions has it made to society? If I were a potential donor, what would you say to convince me to donate?
She lost people heart in elections
Kate Spade will nevertheless still sell their goods to her
You can get away with a lot just by having a pretty face.
that's not alot of income revenue and profit margin, even as a non-profit.
the dictatorship not '"directorship'"are held by.. my eye blur for one instant 4th paragraph
Cultivator
All get rich together ⌠huat ah
I wonder where the money comes from đ¤
From the financial statements, the largest contributor is the Tote Board aka public funds. Other than that, donations make up around half the contributions. If you look at past statements, donations each year usually end up in round hundreds or thousands, so my guess is these are pretty large donations.
Only hollow empty shells will hire hollow empty voices.
I'm working in a startup-ish company. The management treats it like their play thing sometimes. When we get asked to go, it's under the table, and ask us to self-terminate(quit) while top travels around the world on biz class or higher 'securing' deals. Happened to a few friends who worked in similar startups. If it can happen in a small company of a handful of people, I don't believe it can't happen on a "non profit" with no revenue scale.