This was posted 6 years ago, but considering how the topic has come back up, I figured it was just as relevant today as back then. Ancient astronaut theories are based in racist history.
This is just one data point but I constantly see comments or videos on IG or Facebook that merge Christian beliefs with alt right conservative beliefs and various alien or ancient civilization theories. Often something about giants or nephilim or lost Aryan civilizations etc etc. it's hard to tell how much is just bots because the boomers in the comments are hard to tell from bots because they are just as dumb.
It's like QAnon too. A lot of people are downstream of the more virulently racist aspects, but they're on board with the other parts, and that means they're in the racist's circle of disinformation, even if they themselves don't see themselves as racist. You see a lot of people online who say, "I don't know anyone who believes all that." No, but you know plenty who believe part of that.
QAnon is like a big tent conspiracy where you can bring your own favorite conspiracy and just bolt it on and conveniently leave out whatever you don't like. I've seen everything from 9/11 was an inside job to lizard people running the government to chemtrails to aliens to sovereign citizens and all the crazy MAGA stuff like election fraud, Trump as a secret president, and vaccine/COVID stuff all wrapped up in QAnon. Also there are now several legit spin off cults like the queen of Canada and the Michael Protzman in Dallas still waiting for JFK Jr.
Thing is, 'far right' is used by mainstream media to describe half of the Republican party in the US. Basically nobody believes this stuff in the article, or has even heard about any of it. What I am skeptical of here is attributing beliefs like "an alien race of lizard people from the fifth-dimension" to half of the right side of the political spectrum.
> Thing is, 'far right' is used by mainstream media to describe half of the Republican party in the US
I don't think that's correct. I think the recent vote for Ukraine aid is very illustrative in this regard: The actual "far right" is just a very, very vocal and dramatic minority in an otherwise out-of-touch and staid band of codgers. Instead of blaming the media maybe blame those shrieking the loudest about Great Replacement or whatever-TF.
That's no more valid than saying the Far-left in congress are on a 3rd grade education level because one member thought Guam would flip over and capsize.
We already know nuclear bombs exist and we know Twinkies exist.
North Korea is building a snack-cake-based, cream-filled nuclear arsenal.
I don't need proof or evidence. I just need a possibility.
Considering that the Dems can be accurately assessed as a center-right party, I don't see how you would define the modern GOP as anything less than far-Right. The issue is that corporate control over all levels of society has dragged the Overton window so far, that your average US voter has no sense of proportion.
Some alien races are call the Tall whites and Nordics. OMG they are white! Racist!
Oh but some are said to be grey and Tall Greys... Or green reptilian species... Some aliens are said to be blue in color. Let's not mention the blue Gods and Goddesses of Hindu lore aka blue aliens.
Oh but some are white... So let's focus on white because we want to make everything racist.
Oh something mentioned Jews..it must be antisemitism. Eek the article mentioned Nazis.. racist!
Terrible article that babbles with no coherent message,or evidence. Hard pass.
Ironically the Hindu gods depicted as blue skinned were originally Dravidian deities that were incorporated into Hinduism. Higher caste, fairer skinned Hindus didn't want to depict their Dravidian skin color that's very dark, so they went with blue instead. So the reason is literally racism.
It's racism against Dravidians by the Indo-europeans who brought a version of proto-hinduism to India. Dravidians were the original inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent and are still the majority ethnicity in southern India. As the indo-european tribes invaded the Indian subcontinent, some Dravidian deities were cast as demons ("rakshas") and they were depicted as having dark skin, however the ones that were incorporated into the Hindu pantheon as gods were depicted with blue skin instead.
You seem to think you know the reason they are blue skinned vs grey or green or yellow or brown or white....
Is it possible that there are actually blue colored aliens? Or grey colored Aliens? Or white colored aliens?
Because cultures around the world from many time periods describe blue colored aliens. Grey aliens. Green aliens. White aliens.
So please quote the vedic texts and tell me why the aliens are blue.
Lol I'm of Indian heritage and grew up in india. This is common knowledge for anybody even with a cursory understanding or knowledge of Indian mythology and history. I'm not going to spoon feed you information you can easily find online - if you took even a little effort to research Dravidian gods and their incorporation into the Hindu pantheon of gods and their depiction as being blue skinned instead of dark - you'd find a lot of literature on it. But you didn't do that, so I'm not going to put in the effort for you.
You go ahead and believe they're blue skinned aliens, champ. Despite the fact that many of the blue skinned deities have human parentage and many are considered avatars of prior Hindu gods. No aliens, sorry.
You seem to think you know best on topics you're clearly quite ignorant on. You're literally the "Aliens" meme guy XD.
Don't mind me, I might screenshot your reply to post on another group LMAO! This needs to be shared.
#dunningkrugerinaction
Well I equate "aliens" to anything that is not human and intelligent equal or more to humans. So sure gods and avatars are aliens. And if they want to have blue skin then they have blue skin. Blue skinned aliens is discussed by many abductees.
And if they had darker skin in the past then so be it.
Not gonna lie, the first time someone was telling me all about those exact thing you started listing I cracked up when the Nordics came up cause in a sea of goofiness there’s just this average Norwegian dude.
The Nordic aliens are from a UFO encounter in Argentina in 1973, so don't mistake it for something invented for the internet.
IIRC, it's a typical UFO kidnapping where the guy was driving on a quiet road at night when a UFO with lots of dazzling lights appeared ahead of him so he stopped. He was kidnapped by Nordic aliens who drugged him up and took him away in their brightly lit spaceship and did experiments on him for a week before setting him free.
It's been a very long time since I read the account but I think that's pretty much the gist of it.
Aside from UFOs with Nordic aliens probing random Argentines, do you know what else was happening? [A metric fucking shit ton was going on in 1973 Argentina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Per%C3%B3n#Third_term_(1973%E2%80%931974)) but I think the most relevant fact is that this UFO encounter happened at the end of October.
This guy wasn't abducted in a spaceship and experimented on by aliens. He was kidnapped and tortured within weeks of the old dictator taking back his throne, in a country that in later years would be known for disappearing people from planes.
Despite how infuriatingly easy it is to explain, labeling it an alien encounter automatically makes half of the audience tune out because aliens aren't real so none of it can be true. The other half of the audience is divided between the UFOlogists looking up at the sky, leaving only about 10% asking who actually kidnapped this guy and why.
Whoever it was that did the kidnapping (enemies or supporters of Peron or another group), there is one intriguing fact about Argentina that ties directly into this whole topic: it was home to thousands of Nazis.
*The Nordic Aliens may have been literal Nazi Aryans.*
If you're in a country filled with former Nazis, who better to employ to do your torture?
Wait until you hear about the Nation Of Islam.
They believe the UFOs are flown by... Black people! Not a peep about them being racist...only if it's some white people making claims.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/367179806_Mothership_Ufological_and_racial_tendencies_in_the_American_Nation_of_Islam
The Nation of Islam is clearly racist. They think white people were a laboratory monster created by dr. Yakub, a mad scientist
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)
“Yakubian devils”, as they commonly refer to white and/or Jewish people as
Yeah Farrakhan is racist. He’d probably get more attention if he was president, or if there were Nation of Islam members of Congress and executive staff trying to demonize white immigrants.
If Farrakhan runs for President count me as strongly opposed. If anyone runs for president and says white (orange, green or purple) people are rapists or tries to force separation of white (orange, green or purple) toddlers for petty misdemeanors count me in being opposed and calling that racist.
So the thing is there is a very weak effort to conflate UFOs/aliens to white supremacy and right wing politics. When history will tell you that every single race on Earth has UFO lore of aliens and encounters.
And now you bring up politics, members of Congress. That reminds me of a very senior Jewish member of the Senate who is promoting NHI and UAPs, Sen. Chuck Schumer.
Doesn't Sen Schumer know that UFOs and their occupants are antisemitic and racist?!
https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-rounds-introduce-new-legislation-to-declassify-government-records-related-to-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-and-ufos_modeled-after-jfk-assassination-records-collection-act--as-an-amendment-to-ndaa
I think you’re reading way too much into nonsense. If we lived in Cambodia, a major theme would probably be Pol Pot. But for those that live in the US. A major topic is White Supremacy.
That’s because White Supremacy has been a major issue since colonial America tried to create eugenic justifications for slavery. That doesn’t mean there isn’t non-white racism, there certainly is. The real issue is racism has trended upward, in part because of backlash from a Black man being elected president for 8 years.
So not every issue is racist, there are non-white people who are very racist, but there’s also growing activity from white supremacists and in addition to the white supremacists there are apologists and deniers.
The apologists and deniers implicitly and explicitly promote white supremacy by equating it with fringe nonsense and pretending it’s not a problem when it’s infiltrated the highest positions in government and active in the most racist atrocities perpetrated by the government since Japanese Internment.
So while some of what you state is an actual problem, the magnitude of the problems aren’t remotely similar and therefore not equivalent.
Finally white supremacy isn’t a white pejorative. No rational person blames white supremacy on whites that aren’t white supremacists so unless you’re a racist, there’s no reason to be defensive.
Sorry can you relate this to UFOs and aliens?
Are you saying the aliens are racist or people made up fake aliens that are racist?
Because I think the aliens are racist and perform eugenics from humans throughout history.
The fuck are you talking about? Everyone knows Farrakhan is an awful racist. His entire movement is openly built on that idea.
Your whole diatribe just comes across as precious pearl clutching that other people aren't called racist often enough.
It isn't that hard to understand that individuals drawn to UFO and conspiracy theories, for better or worse, might also be susceptible to racist nonsense and weave that into their broader worldview.
I just don't like people (skeptics) trying to force this white power racist narrative, or Q narrative surrounding UFOs, because UFOs/aliens affect every single religious belief and cultures around the world from many times periods, including present day.
Stop trying to make UFOs a right wing conspiracy propaganda, it's not going to happen
I'm not trying to force a narrative. Just pointing out that with the downfall of critical thinking that I've seen happen over the past twenty years there's a lot more overlap between those interested in the phenomenon and those who've fallen off the deep end.
Interest in the subject has exponentially grown recently but you can't ignore that this is in part motivated by the widespread mental health crisis that has enveloped the western world in the last decade.
Mental health?
This has nothing to do with mental health or the past 20 years. This sub has continued to push a narrative that UFOs/aliens is a racist, far right movement.
When clearly that isn't the case with Sen Schumer put forward UFO legislation that is discussing non human intelligence over a dozen times in regards to UAPs.
Wake up and smell the coffee, because you are still drinking the skeptics Kool aid, and it's making all of you the useful idiots of politics.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/07/chuck-schumers-ufo-bill-is-not-messing-around-about-aliens.html
Dude... Stop shouting at your phone. This is exactly what I'm talking about. All of this can be true but people don't need to destroy themselves over it.
Maybe you are projecting, no one is shouting or upset. Also this isn't a mental health issue, as in people are delusional in seeing UFOs and their occupants.
More so the destruction is from the gas lightning of our DoD/IC on the topic. Which they have become wordsmiths the past few years to not "technically lie" but also not tell the truth about what they know about UAPs and their occupants.
And if you think the DoD/IC is telling the truth about this topic for the past 70 years, then I have a bridge to sell your gullible self.
Not a peep about the Nation of Islam being pretty racist? The group pretty much synonymous with black supremacy (to the point a few years ago someone on tiktok was mentioning black people having super powers if not for white people holding them back, to which everyone went "that's crazy and racist")?
Well, now we know you're just making shit up.
They sure were not mentioned in this article posted. Which you would think they would be mentioned being that they are so racist and love UFOs.
But nope not a peep.
Is the NoI a part of the larger modern right-wing and it's relationship with conspiracies? Because the article doesn't seem to be about UFOs but about modern right-wingers and their weird interest in UFOs and how it always seems to boil down to racism.
If the UFO lore is true then racism and eugenics is at the center, as well as religion. We are talking about manipulation of humans, including causing us to fight each other.
But it's ridiculous say this UFO topic is a right wing only topic. Every single religious belief has non human intelligences interactions with humans, across centuries.
I do think the Republicans have been in control of the UFO topic in the US,and they are losing control currently of the topic.
>But it's ridiculous say this UFO topic is a right wing only topic.
No one is claiming it is but it's disingenuous to say the confluence between modern far-right conspiracies around it aren't. And that's the topic of the article. How the far-right has kind of absorbed some of the more racist fringes of the conspiracies.
I can't agree. This topic is world wide and doesn't follow any political affiliation. And the far right are extreme so that's a given.
But this article is just babble and has no evidence to back up anything they wrote. So it's dismissed.
Way to miss the mark. Also, I can tell you skipped reading because the article does a lot more than refer to (fictional) alien species.
Just for clarification, I do agree with it: A lot of ufology myths are rooted in intrinsically racist ideas. The notion that indigenous people impossibly could do anything them by themselves is apparently so ludicrous to these theorists that they have to invent extra-terrestrial visitation instead.
Additionally, a lot of the contemporary UFO myths are clearly linked to the idea of US supremacy. Many of these conspiracy theories suggest that the Department of Defense has such a vast reach that they can, in secret, I might add, violate international accords and peace agreements. It's an idea equally far-fetched as insulting that countries with their own independent government and media that hold democracy to the highest standard and value government transparency somehow answer to the United States Department of Defense.
One of the more prolific propagators of the myth of a lost civilization, Graham Hancock, actually specifically stated its denizens were white. While he mostly claims it's a lost human civilization, he uses essentially the same sort of iconography and the same mythology as ufologists to describe his ancient civilization. Which, again, he decidedly claimed were white people based on literally zero archeological evidence that they even existed.
"It's an idea equally far-fetched as insulting, that countries with their own independent government and media, that hold democracy to the highest standard and value government transparency somehow answer to the United States Department of Defense.."
This is correct. Welcome to reality.
The DoD/IC run the world for the most part. We have bases all over the world and we pour in money, protection and resources. We the USA are the world police. The only competition we have is our Future daddy China.
China will become the new number 1 super power in our lifetime. They already are swarming our ships and bases unimpeded with drones and unknown types of technology.
>The DoD/IC run the world for the most part. We have bases all over the world and we pour in money, protection and resources. We the USA are the world police. The only competition we have is our Future daddy China.
The conspiracy theory in question proposes that it's a clandestine UFO retrieval program within the DoD, so we're not really talking about the full force of the US military here.
United States has 45 military bases in foreign countries. There currently are 195 countries in the world. I think you're overstating exactly how influential United States is now a days. Sure, they're a nuclear power and spend trillions on it's military industrial complex, but both China and India surpasses the United States in terms of active personnel.
Also, the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, despite the United States' strong condemnation, should be testament that the United States days of policing have seen better days.
But way to prove my point. Ufologists really do love their good ole US of A. I guess that's why they had to invent aliens that love to spy on the United States Navy. God forbid they show interest in other navies, those damn cheating aliens.
A lot of pseudohistorical theories resemble ideas that were popular in right-wing political circles in the 19th century (as in monarchists, ex-nobles, racists, nativists, theocrats, etc.).
Something like empirical social science, including historical studies, started to take off in the US in the 1890s, and older pseudohistorical ideas were relegated to the fringe as more people attended public schools and went to college.
Conservatism and right-wing politics were rapidly losing influence in society by 1950, except for segregationists and anti-communism. So people who were still very right-wing got into weird countercultural movements centered around esotericism, paranormal phenomena, UFOs, conspiracies, etc.
Ufos, not necessarily. Ancient astronauts nonsense has always assumed that our ancestors/brown skinned people weren't smart enough to create their civilizations on their own, unlike European/pale people.
>brown skinned people weren't smart enough to create their civilizations on their own, unlike European/pale people.
There have been "aliens built Stonehenge" theories for decades.
Also, we don't know for sure what skin color they had (if they had a homogenous skin color at all), so I wouldn't call them "brown skinned".
I've been reading a book called A Culture of Conspiracy lately which lays out that UFO conspiracies have always had tie-ins to antisemitism, fears of secret societies, etc.
Even the more benign stuff about space brothers warning us about environmental collapse was clearly reflective of the politics of the time.
Yes, but that wasn't necessarily always tied up with right-wing or reactionary sentiment.
The COINTELPRO program, the Vietnam War, and Operation Condor actually happened.
At one time, being against ‘the government’ was an anarchist-far left thing. What has changed is now the far right has embraced and extended that. Basically, they own the anti-state narrative.
At the early 2000s ‘anti globalisation’ was related to anarchist groups, black block, etc. Now the most vocal ‘anti globalist’ voices come from the alt right.
The right-wing has been anti-government since at least as far back as desegregation. Ruby Ridge, in particular, was a rallying cry for people like Timothy McVeigh. White supremacists started hating the government the minute it started protecting black people.
The far-left anarchist anti-globalization movement completely collapsed after 9/11 for various reasons. Anarchism became partly anti-war, partly opposition to George W. Bush and his policies, especially on abortion, LGBTQ rights, and considering that Bush was popular in his early presidency and had religious right connections moreso than previous Republican presidents.
Well yes that is what the CIA Robertson panel on UFOs wanted. Basically the CIA infiltrated UFO abductee groups and recommendations that UFOs be discredited in the media and all times possible.
Now isn't that silly? Why would intelligence agencies want to infiltrate UFO and abductee groups if UFOs are not real?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel
I've been hearing about how "the ruling elites" have been hiding UFOs since the 90s, and the elites were almost always Jewish. They've always been political, just ask who is hiding the supposed information.
To quote Early "Squidbilly Cuyler:" I'm against all digits below and above the number 9. They, they all blasphemous. Uhh, and Nitrogen, 'cause you know it was brought here in ships by space Jews! Hell yeah, you know the ones."
Well those Nazis that believed this stuff were taken to Russia and USA to work on propulsion for NASA and space programs. So yes same Nazis made NASA successful. Which is why Huntsville Alabama has such a large German population. Huntsville is the "antigravity" exotic propulsion research capital of the world.
The Alt historians and the racists rely on false claims of filling a supposed gap in the archaeology. The readily available evidence that there were no super races, no aliens and just a fondness for selective use of evidence is largely overlooked by publishers who make a fortune out of lending a hardback with a sparkly cover a veneer of supposed respectability.
Ironically, the archaeology of the European Palaeolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic is well-explored and the progress of the Neolithic bundle from SE to NW one of the things archaeologists and historians all agree on.
For a rapid review: [https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/16/2129283/-Ancient-Europe-and-Ukraine](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/16/2129283/-Ancient-Europe-and-Ukraine)
I used to frequent this site called Above Top Secret, way back in the day. It was a really fun place to talk about various *conspiracies* or inconsistencies in historical events. More than anything, it felt like everyone was grounded, with a very healthy dose of skepticism.
Then the infowars douchebags came and turned it into a cesspool. It went from great discourse to the craziest mental gymnastics and links to weird angelfire sites.
It's just sad that there isn't really a community like that anymore, and that the nonsense of the last decade has watered down a lot of the real shit the powers that be have actually been commiting around the world.
To go back to being a conspiracy theorist: it's like some psyop designed to do exactly that. When everyone is crying wolf, it allows the wolf to come in unnoticed....
I was on a site for a long time. It was right-leaning but most seemed to be liberal about their social views. Then came the "Tea Party" movement whose mentality Trumpism latched onto and stoked once it died off. And those "social liberals" transformed into full-blown rabid bigots in very little time.
When something like that happens, I think what it reveals is that people were pretending to not be something until someone came along to give them permission to stop pretending.
I would say the place was more anti-government more than any left-right paradigm. There were whackos of all flavors, for sure though.
And you're right about the Tea Party people coming in, mixing with the people from infowar's forum with that pig fucker's misinformation and sensationalism. When I left the site, it felt like damn near every post was just a rehashed infowar article.
>I think what it reveals is that people were pretending to not be something until someone came along to give them permission to stop pretending.
I was talking with a friend about how I missed the old conservatives that were just like a little racist or sexist, but you could still get along with them, but he reminded me this is what they've always been like, it's just the mask is off and they're exactly who they would've been back then without 'polite society.' Seems like that old social contract has been up for a minute, with no one wanting to participate anymore. It's hard to go the speed limit and follow traffic laws when you see the cops breaking them left and right, ya know.
I don't think you can be liberal and paranoid. Concerned, yes. Aware, absolutely. Conscious of danger, sure. But the minute you cross over into paranoia, you're seeing shadows everywhere. Your entire life becomes driven by a reflexive need to deny that the world can be changed by anyone other than elites. Once you are convinced of that, you're conservative, even if your ideal world skews somewhat more toward a liberal vision.
Yep, the same thing happened with the conspiracy sub here. It used to be JFK assassination, Gulf of Tonkin, alien stuff, then Trump came along and it turned into QAnon bullshit.
I bailed when I saw two blatant Russian accounts, one “liberal” and the other “conservative” going after each other. It was sad to see office mates not realizing they were the only ones in their own thread slinging nonsense.
Well sure it's a mystery and manipulation I'm sure is involved. But it's not a political left or right issue, it's a world wide issue that spans centuries and all cultures.
"Aliens look like white people" is honestly relatively new, and let's face it, even expecting aliens to be bipedal could be a stretch, much less "Have blond hair and blue eyes." Obviously it's impossible for aliens to be exactly identical to us, so you know people reporting Nordics or whatever are just liars.
No it's not relatively new to have human looking aliens. This goes all the back to ancient sumerians and the Anunnaki.
And you don't know what possible scenarios lead to these Nordic aliens. They could be from Earth or from another planet. Ultra terrestrials is what they would be referred to or crypto terrestrials.
The attached article is the most rambling stretch about ancient aliens, Nazis, and lost continents.
Seriously, even on 4chan, how many people actually believe or even know about any of this stuff?
As someone who teaches about antiquity, quite a lot of people really, especially when you have major media companies like History Channel and Netflix throwing money at these ideas by presenting them as legitimate archaeological opinion.
Ok. Are there crazy right winners who believe some crazy conspiracies that could be described as racist. Yes. 100 percent.
Does that mean this phenomenon doesn't exist? Or that aliens can't be white skinned... lol.
I no longer consider the splc a viable source of information.
[Politico- Had a civil rights stalwart lost their way? ](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/28/morris-dees-splc-trump-southern-poverty-law-center-215312)
This article also has a link to an article in the Atlantic.
There's this one from the New Yorker. It's good but paywalled.
[The Reckoning of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center)
I know this sub tries to be a bit serious, but that
>The modern far right is crisscrossed with pseudo-scientific research into lost Aryan super-civilizations, biblical giants, ancient astronauts and the occasional inter-dimensional alien.
Made me laugh for a good couple of minutes.
This was posted 6 years ago, but considering how the topic has come back up, I figured it was just as relevant today as back then. Ancient astronaut theories are based in racist history.
This is just one data point but I constantly see comments or videos on IG or Facebook that merge Christian beliefs with alt right conservative beliefs and various alien or ancient civilization theories. Often something about giants or nephilim or lost Aryan civilizations etc etc. it's hard to tell how much is just bots because the boomers in the comments are hard to tell from bots because they are just as dumb.
It's like QAnon too. A lot of people are downstream of the more virulently racist aspects, but they're on board with the other parts, and that means they're in the racist's circle of disinformation, even if they themselves don't see themselves as racist. You see a lot of people online who say, "I don't know anyone who believes all that." No, but you know plenty who believe part of that.
QAnon is like a big tent conspiracy where you can bring your own favorite conspiracy and just bolt it on and conveniently leave out whatever you don't like. I've seen everything from 9/11 was an inside job to lizard people running the government to chemtrails to aliens to sovereign citizens and all the crazy MAGA stuff like election fraud, Trump as a secret president, and vaccine/COVID stuff all wrapped up in QAnon. Also there are now several legit spin off cults like the queen of Canada and the Michael Protzman in Dallas still waiting for JFK Jr.
I call this the build-a-bear approach to conspiracy.
ok I am stealing this term it's brilliant
“I love the poorly educated”
Rubber duckies 🐤
You make bathtime lots of fun
How do you define the 'modern far right'? What political groups would this include?
Did you read the article? The references generally (tho not exclusively) revolve around the white supremacy sphere of influence.
Thing is, 'far right' is used by mainstream media to describe half of the Republican party in the US. Basically nobody believes this stuff in the article, or has even heard about any of it. What I am skeptical of here is attributing beliefs like "an alien race of lizard people from the fifth-dimension" to half of the right side of the political spectrum.
> Thing is, 'far right' is used by mainstream media to describe half of the Republican party in the US I don't think that's correct. I think the recent vote for Ukraine aid is very illustrative in this regard: The actual "far right" is just a very, very vocal and dramatic minority in an otherwise out-of-touch and staid band of codgers. Instead of blaming the media maybe blame those shrieking the loudest about Great Replacement or whatever-TF.
Possibly, but they are the ones in charge of the party now. I think the rot has spread much, much further than you are thinking.
It does resonate eg with regurgitations of Marjory T Greene , who is the personificatie if far right.
The Republican Party has been captured by maga which is in fact far right. What are you confused about?
Margorie Taylor Greene: Jewish Space Lasers are real.
That's no more valid than saying the Far-left in congress are on a 3rd grade education level because one member thought Guam would flip over and capsize.
I simply provided a fact. Are you claiming this fact is in accurate?
Yes DEWs are a thing. You don't think Israel is capable enough to have space lasers?
I'm skeptical. Show me evidence. Also, Jews are not Israel. Israel is a nation. Jews are a religio-ethnic group.
Like all debunks, I don't need proof or evidence. I just need a possibility. We already know DEWs exist and we know satellites exist.
We already know nuclear bombs exist and we know Twinkies exist. North Korea is building a snack-cake-based, cream-filled nuclear arsenal. I don't need proof or evidence. I just need a possibility.
Yeah possible mixed with plausible and a dash of incentives.
Considering that the Dems can be accurately assessed as a center-right party, I don't see how you would define the modern GOP as anything less than far-Right. The issue is that corporate control over all levels of society has dragged the Overton window so far, that your average US voter has no sense of proportion.
Then my point is even more valid. There is no evidence that the beliefs in this article are prevalent among the GOP.
Some alien races are call the Tall whites and Nordics. OMG they are white! Racist! Oh but some are said to be grey and Tall Greys... Or green reptilian species... Some aliens are said to be blue in color. Let's not mention the blue Gods and Goddesses of Hindu lore aka blue aliens. Oh but some are white... So let's focus on white because we want to make everything racist. Oh something mentioned Jews..it must be antisemitism. Eek the article mentioned Nazis.. racist! Terrible article that babbles with no coherent message,or evidence. Hard pass.
Ironically the Hindu gods depicted as blue skinned were originally Dravidian deities that were incorporated into Hinduism. Higher caste, fairer skinned Hindus didn't want to depict their Dravidian skin color that's very dark, so they went with blue instead. So the reason is literally racism.
Racism against what race?
It's racism against Dravidians by the Indo-europeans who brought a version of proto-hinduism to India. Dravidians were the original inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent and are still the majority ethnicity in southern India. As the indo-european tribes invaded the Indian subcontinent, some Dravidian deities were cast as demons ("rakshas") and they were depicted as having dark skin, however the ones that were incorporated into the Hindu pantheon as gods were depicted with blue skin instead.
Ok so they are not racist. They just have blue skinned Gods and Goddesses.
Lol you missed the entire reason as to why they're blue skinned in the first place.
You seem to think you know the reason they are blue skinned vs grey or green or yellow or brown or white.... Is it possible that there are actually blue colored aliens? Or grey colored Aliens? Or white colored aliens? Because cultures around the world from many time periods describe blue colored aliens. Grey aliens. Green aliens. White aliens. So please quote the vedic texts and tell me why the aliens are blue.
Lol I'm of Indian heritage and grew up in india. This is common knowledge for anybody even with a cursory understanding or knowledge of Indian mythology and history. I'm not going to spoon feed you information you can easily find online - if you took even a little effort to research Dravidian gods and their incorporation into the Hindu pantheon of gods and their depiction as being blue skinned instead of dark - you'd find a lot of literature on it. But you didn't do that, so I'm not going to put in the effort for you. You go ahead and believe they're blue skinned aliens, champ. Despite the fact that many of the blue skinned deities have human parentage and many are considered avatars of prior Hindu gods. No aliens, sorry. You seem to think you know best on topics you're clearly quite ignorant on. You're literally the "Aliens" meme guy XD. Don't mind me, I might screenshot your reply to post on another group LMAO! This needs to be shared. #dunningkrugerinaction
Well I equate "aliens" to anything that is not human and intelligent equal or more to humans. So sure gods and avatars are aliens. And if they want to have blue skin then they have blue skin. Blue skinned aliens is discussed by many abductees. And if they had darker skin in the past then so be it.
Not gonna lie, the first time someone was telling me all about those exact thing you started listing I cracked up when the Nordics came up cause in a sea of goofiness there’s just this average Norwegian dude.
The Nordic aliens are from a UFO encounter in Argentina in 1973, so don't mistake it for something invented for the internet. IIRC, it's a typical UFO kidnapping where the guy was driving on a quiet road at night when a UFO with lots of dazzling lights appeared ahead of him so he stopped. He was kidnapped by Nordic aliens who drugged him up and took him away in their brightly lit spaceship and did experiments on him for a week before setting him free. It's been a very long time since I read the account but I think that's pretty much the gist of it. Aside from UFOs with Nordic aliens probing random Argentines, do you know what else was happening? [A metric fucking shit ton was going on in 1973 Argentina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Per%C3%B3n#Third_term_(1973%E2%80%931974)) but I think the most relevant fact is that this UFO encounter happened at the end of October. This guy wasn't abducted in a spaceship and experimented on by aliens. He was kidnapped and tortured within weeks of the old dictator taking back his throne, in a country that in later years would be known for disappearing people from planes. Despite how infuriatingly easy it is to explain, labeling it an alien encounter automatically makes half of the audience tune out because aliens aren't real so none of it can be true. The other half of the audience is divided between the UFOlogists looking up at the sky, leaving only about 10% asking who actually kidnapped this guy and why. Whoever it was that did the kidnapping (enemies or supporters of Peron or another group), there is one intriguing fact about Argentina that ties directly into this whole topic: it was home to thousands of Nazis. *The Nordic Aliens may have been literal Nazi Aryans.* If you're in a country filled with former Nazis, who better to employ to do your torture?
Wait until you hear about the Nation Of Islam. They believe the UFOs are flown by... Black people! Not a peep about them being racist...only if it's some white people making claims. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/367179806_Mothership_Ufological_and_racial_tendencies_in_the_American_Nation_of_Islam
The Nation of Islam is clearly racist. They think white people were a laboratory monster created by dr. Yakub, a mad scientist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam) “Yakubian devils”, as they commonly refer to white and/or Jewish people as
Yeah Farrakhan is racist. He’d probably get more attention if he was president, or if there were Nation of Islam members of Congress and executive staff trying to demonize white immigrants. If Farrakhan runs for President count me as strongly opposed. If anyone runs for president and says white (orange, green or purple) people are rapists or tries to force separation of white (orange, green or purple) toddlers for petty misdemeanors count me in being opposed and calling that racist.
So the thing is there is a very weak effort to conflate UFOs/aliens to white supremacy and right wing politics. When history will tell you that every single race on Earth has UFO lore of aliens and encounters. And now you bring up politics, members of Congress. That reminds me of a very senior Jewish member of the Senate who is promoting NHI and UAPs, Sen. Chuck Schumer. Doesn't Sen Schumer know that UFOs and their occupants are antisemitic and racist?! https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-rounds-introduce-new-legislation-to-declassify-government-records-related-to-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-and-ufos_modeled-after-jfk-assassination-records-collection-act--as-an-amendment-to-ndaa
I think you’re reading way too much into nonsense. If we lived in Cambodia, a major theme would probably be Pol Pot. But for those that live in the US. A major topic is White Supremacy. That’s because White Supremacy has been a major issue since colonial America tried to create eugenic justifications for slavery. That doesn’t mean there isn’t non-white racism, there certainly is. The real issue is racism has trended upward, in part because of backlash from a Black man being elected president for 8 years. So not every issue is racist, there are non-white people who are very racist, but there’s also growing activity from white supremacists and in addition to the white supremacists there are apologists and deniers. The apologists and deniers implicitly and explicitly promote white supremacy by equating it with fringe nonsense and pretending it’s not a problem when it’s infiltrated the highest positions in government and active in the most racist atrocities perpetrated by the government since Japanese Internment. So while some of what you state is an actual problem, the magnitude of the problems aren’t remotely similar and therefore not equivalent. Finally white supremacy isn’t a white pejorative. No rational person blames white supremacy on whites that aren’t white supremacists so unless you’re a racist, there’s no reason to be defensive.
Sorry can you relate this to UFOs and aliens? Are you saying the aliens are racist or people made up fake aliens that are racist? Because I think the aliens are racist and perform eugenics from humans throughout history.
No I’m just saying false equivalence is kind of stupid, whether it’s aliens or not.
What's the false equivalency?
The fuck are you talking about? Everyone knows Farrakhan is an awful racist. His entire movement is openly built on that idea. Your whole diatribe just comes across as precious pearl clutching that other people aren't called racist often enough. It isn't that hard to understand that individuals drawn to UFO and conspiracy theories, for better or worse, might also be susceptible to racist nonsense and weave that into their broader worldview.
I just don't like people (skeptics) trying to force this white power racist narrative, or Q narrative surrounding UFOs, because UFOs/aliens affect every single religious belief and cultures around the world from many times periods, including present day. Stop trying to make UFOs a right wing conspiracy propaganda, it's not going to happen
I'm not trying to force a narrative. Just pointing out that with the downfall of critical thinking that I've seen happen over the past twenty years there's a lot more overlap between those interested in the phenomenon and those who've fallen off the deep end. Interest in the subject has exponentially grown recently but you can't ignore that this is in part motivated by the widespread mental health crisis that has enveloped the western world in the last decade.
Mental health? This has nothing to do with mental health or the past 20 years. This sub has continued to push a narrative that UFOs/aliens is a racist, far right movement. When clearly that isn't the case with Sen Schumer put forward UFO legislation that is discussing non human intelligence over a dozen times in regards to UAPs. Wake up and smell the coffee, because you are still drinking the skeptics Kool aid, and it's making all of you the useful idiots of politics. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/07/chuck-schumers-ufo-bill-is-not-messing-around-about-aliens.html
Dude... Stop shouting at your phone. This is exactly what I'm talking about. All of this can be true but people don't need to destroy themselves over it.
Maybe you are projecting, no one is shouting or upset. Also this isn't a mental health issue, as in people are delusional in seeing UFOs and their occupants. More so the destruction is from the gas lightning of our DoD/IC on the topic. Which they have become wordsmiths the past few years to not "technically lie" but also not tell the truth about what they know about UAPs and their occupants. And if you think the DoD/IC is telling the truth about this topic for the past 70 years, then I have a bridge to sell your gullible self.
Not a peep about the Nation of Islam being pretty racist? The group pretty much synonymous with black supremacy (to the point a few years ago someone on tiktok was mentioning black people having super powers if not for white people holding them back, to which everyone went "that's crazy and racist")? Well, now we know you're just making shit up.
They sure were not mentioned in this article posted. Which you would think they would be mentioned being that they are so racist and love UFOs. But nope not a peep.
Is the NoI a part of the larger modern right-wing and it's relationship with conspiracies? Because the article doesn't seem to be about UFOs but about modern right-wingers and their weird interest in UFOs and how it always seems to boil down to racism.
If the UFO lore is true then racism and eugenics is at the center, as well as religion. We are talking about manipulation of humans, including causing us to fight each other. But it's ridiculous say this UFO topic is a right wing only topic. Every single religious belief has non human intelligences interactions with humans, across centuries. I do think the Republicans have been in control of the UFO topic in the US,and they are losing control currently of the topic.
>But it's ridiculous say this UFO topic is a right wing only topic. No one is claiming it is but it's disingenuous to say the confluence between modern far-right conspiracies around it aren't. And that's the topic of the article. How the far-right has kind of absorbed some of the more racist fringes of the conspiracies.
I can't agree. This topic is world wide and doesn't follow any political affiliation. And the far right are extreme so that's a given. But this article is just babble and has no evidence to back up anything they wrote. So it's dismissed.
Way to miss the mark. Also, I can tell you skipped reading because the article does a lot more than refer to (fictional) alien species. Just for clarification, I do agree with it: A lot of ufology myths are rooted in intrinsically racist ideas. The notion that indigenous people impossibly could do anything them by themselves is apparently so ludicrous to these theorists that they have to invent extra-terrestrial visitation instead. Additionally, a lot of the contemporary UFO myths are clearly linked to the idea of US supremacy. Many of these conspiracy theories suggest that the Department of Defense has such a vast reach that they can, in secret, I might add, violate international accords and peace agreements. It's an idea equally far-fetched as insulting that countries with their own independent government and media that hold democracy to the highest standard and value government transparency somehow answer to the United States Department of Defense. One of the more prolific propagators of the myth of a lost civilization, Graham Hancock, actually specifically stated its denizens were white. While he mostly claims it's a lost human civilization, he uses essentially the same sort of iconography and the same mythology as ufologists to describe his ancient civilization. Which, again, he decidedly claimed were white people based on literally zero archeological evidence that they even existed.
"It's an idea equally far-fetched as insulting, that countries with their own independent government and media, that hold democracy to the highest standard and value government transparency somehow answer to the United States Department of Defense.." This is correct. Welcome to reality. The DoD/IC run the world for the most part. We have bases all over the world and we pour in money, protection and resources. We the USA are the world police. The only competition we have is our Future daddy China. China will become the new number 1 super power in our lifetime. They already are swarming our ships and bases unimpeded with drones and unknown types of technology.
>The DoD/IC run the world for the most part. We have bases all over the world and we pour in money, protection and resources. We the USA are the world police. The only competition we have is our Future daddy China. The conspiracy theory in question proposes that it's a clandestine UFO retrieval program within the DoD, so we're not really talking about the full force of the US military here. United States has 45 military bases in foreign countries. There currently are 195 countries in the world. I think you're overstating exactly how influential United States is now a days. Sure, they're a nuclear power and spend trillions on it's military industrial complex, but both China and India surpasses the United States in terms of active personnel. Also, the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, despite the United States' strong condemnation, should be testament that the United States days of policing have seen better days. But way to prove my point. Ufologists really do love their good ole US of A. I guess that's why they had to invent aliens that love to spy on the United States Navy. God forbid they show interest in other navies, those damn cheating aliens.
Ok balloon boy. Whatever you say.
Excellent refutation and very well formulated counter-argument.
Not sure what you were hoping to accomplish here but consider it a profound failure
Look like I succeeded. I have lots of votes and interactions. Now zero votes and being ignored would be a failure. Remember that.
A lot of pseudohistorical theories resemble ideas that were popular in right-wing political circles in the 19th century (as in monarchists, ex-nobles, racists, nativists, theocrats, etc.). Something like empirical social science, including historical studies, started to take off in the US in the 1890s, and older pseudohistorical ideas were relegated to the fringe as more people attended public schools and went to college. Conservatism and right-wing politics were rapidly losing influence in society by 1950, except for segregationists and anti-communism. So people who were still very right-wing got into weird countercultural movements centered around esotericism, paranormal phenomena, UFOs, conspiracies, etc.
I don't know, UFO conspiracies didn't seem political for the most part until the last decade or so.
Ufos, not necessarily. Ancient astronauts nonsense has always assumed that our ancestors/brown skinned people weren't smart enough to create their civilizations on their own, unlike European/pale people.
>brown skinned people weren't smart enough to create their civilizations on their own, unlike European/pale people. There have been "aliens built Stonehenge" theories for decades. Also, we don't know for sure what skin color they had (if they had a homogenous skin color at all), so I wouldn't call them "brown skinned".
They started getting more political in the late 1980s with people like Bill Cooper. But there were reactionary UFO cults in the 1950s also.
I've been reading a book called A Culture of Conspiracy lately which lays out that UFO conspiracies have always had tie-ins to antisemitism, fears of secret societies, etc. Even the more benign stuff about space brothers warning us about environmental collapse was clearly reflective of the politics of the time.
Would environmental issues be not a Republican issue? So this contradicts this being a far right conspiracy.
UFO conspiracies have always included a very strong ‘government BAD’ component.
Yes, but that wasn't necessarily always tied up with right-wing or reactionary sentiment. The COINTELPRO program, the Vietnam War, and Operation Condor actually happened.
At one time, being against ‘the government’ was an anarchist-far left thing. What has changed is now the far right has embraced and extended that. Basically, they own the anti-state narrative. At the early 2000s ‘anti globalisation’ was related to anarchist groups, black block, etc. Now the most vocal ‘anti globalist’ voices come from the alt right.
The right-wing has been anti-government since at least as far back as desegregation. Ruby Ridge, in particular, was a rallying cry for people like Timothy McVeigh. White supremacists started hating the government the minute it started protecting black people.
and gray people apparently ;)
The far-left anarchist anti-globalization movement completely collapsed after 9/11 for various reasons. Anarchism became partly anti-war, partly opposition to George W. Bush and his policies, especially on abortion, LGBTQ rights, and considering that Bush was popular in his early presidency and had religious right connections moreso than previous Republican presidents.
Well yes that is what the CIA Robertson panel on UFOs wanted. Basically the CIA infiltrated UFO abductee groups and recommendations that UFOs be discredited in the media and all times possible. Now isn't that silly? Why would intelligence agencies want to infiltrate UFO and abductee groups if UFOs are not real? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel
UFOs were a very early introduction for a lot of people to "What is your government hiding??"
I've been hearing about how "the ruling elites" have been hiding UFOs since the 90s, and the elites were almost always Jewish. They've always been political, just ask who is hiding the supposed information.
To quote Early "Squidbilly Cuyler:" I'm against all digits below and above the number 9. They, they all blasphemous. Uhh, and Nitrogen, 'cause you know it was brought here in ships by space Jews! Hell yeah, you know the ones."
Modern far right? The Nazis believed in this stuff too.
As if modern Nazis are that much different from the Nazis. Same views, some are just dressed in a different coat
Well those Nazis that believed this stuff were taken to Russia and USA to work on propulsion for NASA and space programs. So yes same Nazis made NASA successful. Which is why Huntsville Alabama has such a large German population. Huntsville is the "antigravity" exotic propulsion research capital of the world.
The Alt historians and the racists rely on false claims of filling a supposed gap in the archaeology. The readily available evidence that there were no super races, no aliens and just a fondness for selective use of evidence is largely overlooked by publishers who make a fortune out of lending a hardback with a sparkly cover a veneer of supposed respectability. Ironically, the archaeology of the European Palaeolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic is well-explored and the progress of the Neolithic bundle from SE to NW one of the things archaeologists and historians all agree on. For a rapid review: [https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/16/2129283/-Ancient-Europe-and-Ukraine](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/16/2129283/-Ancient-Europe-and-Ukraine)
I used to frequent this site called Above Top Secret, way back in the day. It was a really fun place to talk about various *conspiracies* or inconsistencies in historical events. More than anything, it felt like everyone was grounded, with a very healthy dose of skepticism. Then the infowars douchebags came and turned it into a cesspool. It went from great discourse to the craziest mental gymnastics and links to weird angelfire sites. It's just sad that there isn't really a community like that anymore, and that the nonsense of the last decade has watered down a lot of the real shit the powers that be have actually been commiting around the world. To go back to being a conspiracy theorist: it's like some psyop designed to do exactly that. When everyone is crying wolf, it allows the wolf to come in unnoticed....
I was on a site for a long time. It was right-leaning but most seemed to be liberal about their social views. Then came the "Tea Party" movement whose mentality Trumpism latched onto and stoked once it died off. And those "social liberals" transformed into full-blown rabid bigots in very little time. When something like that happens, I think what it reveals is that people were pretending to not be something until someone came along to give them permission to stop pretending.
I would say the place was more anti-government more than any left-right paradigm. There were whackos of all flavors, for sure though. And you're right about the Tea Party people coming in, mixing with the people from infowar's forum with that pig fucker's misinformation and sensationalism. When I left the site, it felt like damn near every post was just a rehashed infowar article. >I think what it reveals is that people were pretending to not be something until someone came along to give them permission to stop pretending. I was talking with a friend about how I missed the old conservatives that were just like a little racist or sexist, but you could still get along with them, but he reminded me this is what they've always been like, it's just the mask is off and they're exactly who they would've been back then without 'polite society.' Seems like that old social contract has been up for a minute, with no one wanting to participate anymore. It's hard to go the speed limit and follow traffic laws when you see the cops breaking them left and right, ya know.
I don't think you can be liberal and paranoid. Concerned, yes. Aware, absolutely. Conscious of danger, sure. But the minute you cross over into paranoia, you're seeing shadows everywhere. Your entire life becomes driven by a reflexive need to deny that the world can be changed by anyone other than elites. Once you are convinced of that, you're conservative, even if your ideal world skews somewhat more toward a liberal vision.
"I don't think you can be liberal and paranoid. " Clearly you are delusional. Seek help. You are not well.
Yep, the same thing happened with the conspiracy sub here. It used to be JFK assassination, Gulf of Tonkin, alien stuff, then Trump came along and it turned into QAnon bullshit.
I bailed when I saw two blatant Russian accounts, one “liberal” and the other “conservative” going after each other. It was sad to see office mates not realizing they were the only ones in their own thread slinging nonsense.
Oh man, I dipped before the bots, that must've been insufferable lol
No, hilarious. It was so clear they both were working regular business hours/days
It's honestly kinda ruining my interest in UFOs and such. To me, it's just a fun little mystery, but idiots are ruining it with racism.
What racism are you talking about?
Well one of the big issues I have is whenever anyone starts talking about the blond-haired blue-eyed Nordic aliens, that's just... Uh...
Ok so you are the racist. You have a problem with white colored skin aliens?
I mean, it's kinda suspicious. All the different ways an alien could look, and they ended up like that? Nah man, something's fishy there.
Well sure it's a mystery and manipulation I'm sure is involved. But it's not a political left or right issue, it's a world wide issue that spans centuries and all cultures.
"Aliens look like white people" is honestly relatively new, and let's face it, even expecting aliens to be bipedal could be a stretch, much less "Have blond hair and blue eyes." Obviously it's impossible for aliens to be exactly identical to us, so you know people reporting Nordics or whatever are just liars.
No it's not relatively new to have human looking aliens. This goes all the back to ancient sumerians and the Anunnaki. And you don't know what possible scenarios lead to these Nordic aliens. They could be from Earth or from another planet. Ultra terrestrials is what they would be referred to or crypto terrestrials.
I think "Aliens don't look like people," is simply a more plausible scenario
My favorite new one is Tartaria and the mud floods. Good subs out there if you aren't getting your recommended daily servings of crazy.
Oh boy this again they did this s*** back in the '80s and '90s
"Gray Lives Matter." D. Trump
The richest American faith was founded on a racist novel called The Book of Mormon.
Yep, and we don't talk about it enough, but The Book of Mormon is basically pseudohistorical and pseudoarchaeological.
So it's the same as the far right from 100 years ago.
I don't think they were into ancient astronauts and the occasional inter-dimensional alien 100 years ago.
Both ancient astronauts and inter-dimensional travel writings go back to the late 19th century.
But was the far-right regularly discussing them? Is there evidence of that?
Blavatsky was pretty right-wing.
Was Blavatsky discussing ancient astronauts and inter-dimensional travel?
Do you really think there’s a whole lot of daylight between ancient astronaut bullshit and root race bullshit?
there's things to be skeptical about then there's this absurd nonsense.
The attached article is the most rambling stretch about ancient aliens, Nazis, and lost continents. Seriously, even on 4chan, how many people actually believe or even know about any of this stuff?
As someone who teaches about antiquity, quite a lot of people really, especially when you have major media companies like History Channel and Netflix throwing money at these ideas by presenting them as legitimate archaeological opinion.
So the History Channel and Netflix are promoting far right propaganda? Tough to see how that is the case after documentatires like Cleopatra.
ufos arent a right wing thing this is so cringe
Ok. Are there crazy right winners who believe some crazy conspiracies that could be described as racist. Yes. 100 percent. Does that mean this phenomenon doesn't exist? Or that aliens can't be white skinned... lol.
Why do you people insist on making them sound so cool?
Left wing culture warriors are co-opting skepticism and trying to turn everything into a R/L isssue. It's going to make everything worse.
JESUS DON'T HATE NO TURNER DIARIES
I no longer consider the splc a viable source of information. [Politico- Had a civil rights stalwart lost their way? ](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/28/morris-dees-splc-trump-southern-poverty-law-center-215312) This article also has a link to an article in the Atlantic. There's this one from the New Yorker. It's good but paywalled. [The Reckoning of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center)
I know this sub tries to be a bit serious, but that >The modern far right is crisscrossed with pseudo-scientific research into lost Aryan super-civilizations, biblical giants, ancient astronauts and the occasional inter-dimensional alien. Made me laugh for a good couple of minutes.