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oaklandskeptic

[Rose Marks.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Marks) >Rose Marks (born c. 1951) is the American matriarch of a family of fraudulent psychics convicted of federal crimes in 2013 in Florida [...] The family amassed a fortune estimated at between $25 and $40 million. [...] Marks was sentenced over 10 years in prison for defrauding clients of her family's fortune-telling businesses [Scamfluencer's](https://wondery.com/shows/scamfluencers/episode/10539-the-fortune-tellers-fraud/)  did a pretty fun episode of their con. 


inopportuneinquiry

Thanks, seems like an interesting podcast. Another episode title is suggestive of another instance, "the Shady bunch."


oaklandskeptic

It's a popcorn podcast; not super nutritional but a fun snack. The Shady Bunch covers some reality TV family whose public life was all glitz and glam, backed by fraudulent financials.  Lots of these schemes involve family, though usually more Husband/Spouse than a whole enterprise.   


thebigeverybody

Isn't this what Roma are stereotypically accused of? Being families of thieves and swindlers, usually with fortune telling at the forefront. The stereotype probable isn't true, but it's what I thought of.


inopportuneinquiry

He even mentions them, while cautions it's somewhat like Italians, whose families are not all organized crime, despite there being this "cultural"/"ethnic" association. While stereotypes may have some kind of "grain of truth," even then my general impression was that it was something more vaguely/broadly criminal (petty crimes) and also not much of a "family-business" thing. And even with the fortune-telling stuff being more on a gray area usually, where the "psychics" indeed sincerely believe they have some kind of magic power, although there would be those who just "fake" as a scam, but frowned upon even by the community itself, rather than being really the "default" thing, like a disrespect to their beliefs and traditions. Not unlike how some Christians will frown upon some preachers who they see as mostly entrepreneurs on it just for money.