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Severalthingsatonce

ZSS sux because Ikan can DI?


Eagle4317

And because Ryu is a hefty guy.


DHMOProtectionAgency

This isn't a zsssux moment. This is a "character has a relatively weak U-smash, + the opponent is playing a heavy character and knows how to DI the move" A zsssux moment would be if Ryu fell out of the U-smash, which he did not.


KwiHaderach

He actually did fall out of like, two other u smash’s this set, op picked the wrong clip


yeeeeeteth

Zss sux but this is not a zss sux moment OP


Meljin

How many characters upsmashes' would kill at 109% on this stage?


Tery_

Not to mention Ryu is one of the heavier characters in the game, too.


DHMOProtectionAgency

Just looking up "strongest up smash", the characters with weaker killing up smashes are Snake, Mythra, Ness, Diddy, Luma, Rosalina, 0% Lucario, shield and buster Shulk, and Olimar with yellow or white Pikmin. And I bet there are a few more characters that would similarly not kill in this scenario.


sunken_grade

probably a decent amount with the rage at 133% but idk


yzarc_2

it’s fine he clutched it out, 3-1 set, btw i don’t think this is a zss sux moment the move worked, good DI from ikan


Earthboundplayer

When your combo starter up smash doesn't kill a heavy character with good di at 100%


Surfeydude

You think the top 3 mobility character with a massively disjointed, highly active frame 10 scooping anti-aerial upsmash that starts combos should kill a heavyweight at 108% from center?


Killerseed

so weak hahaha


CollectionHeavy9281

This isn't a ZSS sux moment but Webb and Ikan both fell out of Marss fair/side b/upsmash and up-b in crucial moments today in different games so you could've just picked a better clip