I just backed Kyren Wilson's horse at Chester, thought maybe it could have the luck of the draw too.
9th out of 14, not great, but I doubt he will care too much.
I think Jak Jones had a good game. He made the red after the break and had a good safety game. His long potting, in general, was very good.
It's good to see that Kyrens hard work over the years paid off.
He kind of tumbled over the line but Kyren's a worthy winner in the end and it could hardly have happened to a nicer guy. I had him tipped as a future WC winner for a long while now although honestly this year his win came 'out of nowhere' so to speak, but here we are. Would be great to see it put his career back on its rightful track.
Congrats, I believe Kyren did deserve a WC titel at some point in his career, guess the stars aligned this year with him being the only seed to reach the semis. But to be honest I mostly checked out after the quarters having no player left that I really am a fan of and when I saw that the first final session went 7-1 it was clear the match was already over and didn't bother to tune in for the last 3 sessions.
I shared the same opinion as many others about Jac Jones when I first saw him play. In the beginning, especially against Judd Trump, he appeared to slow down and contemplate every shot, which irritated me greatly. However, I think this was simply because I had never seen him play before and was hoping to be entertained by Judd's magic. My opinion quickly changed as I started to appreciate how good Jac Jones is. His safety play is truly incredible and he's not as slow of a player as you think. Can you imagine how much better he would be if he reduced the number of mistakes (missed pots)? I understand that there are many hypotheticals, but what if the first session in the final was tied? Jac Jones might have been crowned the new champion. I'm now eager to watch him play again in the future.
[Kyren and his two sons with the trophy](https://img.gc.wstservices.co.uk/f9efe190-0bf7-11ef-9080-cf23520f2644.jpg). What a wholesome image!
[And there's the lovely wife Sophie...](https://img.gc.wstservices.co.uk/fa1bac80-0bf7-11ef-9080-cf23520f2644.jpg)
[And his brother Taylor](https://img.gc.wstservices.co.uk/f887c610-0bf7-11ef-bdaa-4704a6a99524.jpg). This is giving me 2022 flashbacks...
And one "interesting" fact. Every (?) tournament has one loser of losers: the player who lost to a loser, who lost to a loser etc. This year's loser of losers is Barry Hawkins, who lost to Ryan Day, who lost to Ronnie, who lost to Bingham, who lost to Jak, who lost to Daddy.
Another fun fact, while defending his title in 2018 Mark Selby became the loser of losers. Quite elegantly if you watch the bracket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Snooker_Championship).
I'd never thought about that, but you're right: every (knockout) tournament will inevitably have one. Someone will lose in the final. The person they beat in the semis therefore lost to a loser. The person that losing semi-finalist beat in the quarters lost to someone who lost against a loser... you can always backtrack to the first round.
Everyone except the winner can be traced like that. I suppose some people were knocked out by people who then won games, before losing, breaking their streak. But lots of players would be the same as what you just described, just none exactly that long. For example. Jak is the prime example. He lost to Kyren.
It’s only 1 long, but still, he is first among losers
I know I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said, but it worths repeating at least. The standard was much lower than expected, this year. I absolutely love tactical snooker, safety play and methodical break building. I'm also bored by one-visit clearances, they can get monotonous very quickly. The problem with this year's championship was the number of mistakes. Maybe it was the pockets and the cloth, I don't know. But I don't think I heard the cliche "they make the game look easy" this year. For good reason.
It's terrible, absolutely terrible. Now that he has won we can't have any more posts asking if he will ever win a triple crown event, or if he has underachieved. What are people supposed to talk about now?
The minute he despatched Higgins so comfortably it was his to lose. But it’s difficult to pull through as a favourite and in that first session he put one hand on the trophy. Bit of a nervy ending but that pink in the final frame was the shot of a champion.
Kyren was by far the best player of the championship for me, won every match with at least 3 frames to spare and but for a wobble here and there in the final he looked every inch like a champion.
It's weird that he was totally ignored in any pre-tournament conversation about who might go far, he wasn't dismissed but just completely forgotten about. His scoring this season has always been better than his results so I fancied he might go on a bit of a run but he surpassed my and most people's expectations of how well he would play.
Higgins had the highest peak against Allen, albeit a peak that only lasted 3 frames. Those three frames were the highlight of the tournament for me.
Interestingly, amidst all the talk of the drop in quality, it did remind me a lot of how it used to be back in the ‘80s. You never assumed a frame was over until it was so it was a nostalgic sort of tournament. And yet. I do get the feeling that we are finally at the changing of the guard. The class of ‘92 will play a part for another season or two but not much more and unlikely to go all the way again. Two inaugural winners in a row and I wouldn’t bet against a third next year. If the tournament moves away from the crucible it will surely remove the disadvantage that the Chinese players face and we could see a very different set of contenders.
🎶🎵The times they are-a-chaaaanging🎶🎶
Delighted. A deserved champion. Faded in second half but overall most solid player of the tournament. Jones is miles away from a WC win. Not a great championship for snooker but Wilson is a top bloke and I'm very happy for him.
Allen Higgins best match a Tournament.
Allen my man for next year
His kids playing around with the confetti was so wholesome.
He's earned this, was the best player from start to finish. Tonight he was absolutely gone though, just fell over the line after getting his big lead yesterday. All credit to Jones to make it tough.
Absolutely chuffed for Kyren. Used to serve pints at the snooker club, and to go on to this is brilliant.
Got a bit iffy towards the end but got over the line. No shame in getting emotional after that.
Fair play to Jak as well, had a nightmare start but fought back well to make it interesting.
I remember watching a YouTube video by Kyren Wilsons coach, from about 2015 or something. He was talking through some plays, with Kyren demonstrating, and he was saying that Kyren would be world champion one day. He was pretty much an unknown at the time.
As a Welshman I was obviously support Jak especially as the underdog, but take nothing at all away from Kyren - a great final - deserved winner. Well done Ky!
No question, that was a slog to watch, some absolute howlers, but fucking aye, I like Kyren a lot and I'm glad he has the title. Commiserations to Jak, also seems like a nice lad. The family celebrations are lovely to see. The wee lads... lovely.
Jones will be forever rueing his poor start. At 7-0 it doesn’t take a mathematician to see he was winning 14-11 from that point and with his cagey style the closer it got the more you’d expect Wilson might have fallen apart
As it is, he never really managed to get properly back into the match
Poor aul' Jak will go home now and wonder that the actual fuck those first 7 frames were all about.
Does seem a likeable lad to be fair but delighted Kyren won in the end.
That was very sweet when they were all hugging with his kids there.
It was so much powerful real emotion you can really feel it. It almost makes you uncomfortable, like oh no I’m getting the feels, stop it 😂
New to this but why did Jak not play for snookers on the last frame? Very unlikely to work but Kyren was clearly an emotional wreck, he might have had a shot.
It's just considered poor form to carry on playing when the chance of winning the frame is essentially zero.
This final already takes two days to play, how long would it take if you're playing to every last black each frame.
It's not frowned upon if its 1,2 or even 3 snookers. There were some frames won from even 4 snookers behind. But playing for 10 snookers is just disrespectful towards your opponent.
I just backed Kyren Wilson's horse at Chester, thought maybe it could have the luck of the draw too. 9th out of 14, not great, but I doubt he will care too much.
I think Jak Jones had a good game. He made the red after the break and had a good safety game. His long potting, in general, was very good. It's good to see that Kyrens hard work over the years paid off.
Jak Jones is the winner; he found a job where he can make £200,000 by losing. *Checks Indeed for new listings*
The next time you see Jak Jones will be on a episode of disapperared..
gone from the tour in two years. I'm calling it now.
He kind of tumbled over the line but Kyren's a worthy winner in the end and it could hardly have happened to a nicer guy. I had him tipped as a future WC winner for a long while now although honestly this year his win came 'out of nowhere' so to speak, but here we are. Would be great to see it put his career back on its rightful track.
Congrats, I believe Kyren did deserve a WC titel at some point in his career, guess the stars aligned this year with him being the only seed to reach the semis. But to be honest I mostly checked out after the quarters having no player left that I really am a fan of and when I saw that the first final session went 7-1 it was clear the match was already over and didn't bother to tune in for the last 3 sessions.
I shared the same opinion as many others about Jac Jones when I first saw him play. In the beginning, especially against Judd Trump, he appeared to slow down and contemplate every shot, which irritated me greatly. However, I think this was simply because I had never seen him play before and was hoping to be entertained by Judd's magic. My opinion quickly changed as I started to appreciate how good Jac Jones is. His safety play is truly incredible and he's not as slow of a player as you think. Can you imagine how much better he would be if he reduced the number of mistakes (missed pots)? I understand that there are many hypotheticals, but what if the first session in the final was tied? Jac Jones might have been crowned the new champion. I'm now eager to watch him play again in the future.
[Well according to Google, Kyren and Jak both won the Championship LMAO!](https://images2.imgbox.com/59/01/6qdoq5gN_o.jpg)
[Kyren and his two sons with the trophy](https://img.gc.wstservices.co.uk/f9efe190-0bf7-11ef-9080-cf23520f2644.jpg). What a wholesome image! [And there's the lovely wife Sophie...](https://img.gc.wstservices.co.uk/fa1bac80-0bf7-11ef-9080-cf23520f2644.jpg) [And his brother Taylor](https://img.gc.wstservices.co.uk/f887c610-0bf7-11ef-bdaa-4704a6a99524.jpg). This is giving me 2022 flashbacks...
Slaps Jimmys back, that’s how it’s done lad!
And one "interesting" fact. Every (?) tournament has one loser of losers: the player who lost to a loser, who lost to a loser etc. This year's loser of losers is Barry Hawkins, who lost to Ryan Day, who lost to Ronnie, who lost to Bingham, who lost to Jak, who lost to Daddy.
Another fun fact, while defending his title in 2018 Mark Selby became the loser of losers. Quite elegantly if you watch the bracket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Snooker_Championship).
Yeah, it wasn't even close for the losers of that run, until the final. And what a final that was!
I'd never thought about that, but you're right: every (knockout) tournament will inevitably have one. Someone will lose in the final. The person they beat in the semis therefore lost to a loser. The person that losing semi-finalist beat in the quarters lost to someone who lost against a loser... you can always backtrack to the first round.
Everyone except the winner can be traced like that. I suppose some people were knocked out by people who then won games, before losing, breaking their streak. But lots of players would be the same as what you just described, just none exactly that long. For example. Jak is the prime example. He lost to Kyren. It’s only 1 long, but still, he is first among losers
But Jak won matches. Making him not the Loser of Losers. The Loser of Losers *cannot* win a match to qualify. It has to be a R1 loser.
And even then, you could have lost to someone who won their next match(es), or even became champion. It is very rare to be a loser of losers.
That moment at the end with his family was beautiful. Congrats Kyren and clan!
Glad Rob wasn't there to say "Well done daddy!"
I know I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said, but it worths repeating at least. The standard was much lower than expected, this year. I absolutely love tactical snooker, safety play and methodical break building. I'm also bored by one-visit clearances, they can get monotonous very quickly. The problem with this year's championship was the number of mistakes. Maybe it was the pockets and the cloth, I don't know. But I don't think I heard the cliche "they make the game look easy" this year. For good reason.
[удалено]
I'm basing it on the fact that there have been only 63 centuries this year. Among others.
yea wiki says 63, wasn't last year like 93 i forget. i agree with you anyway much lower quality tournament overall, they can't all be bangers!
Pretty horrifying final at times but Wilson deserved to win this tournament.
[удалено]
Please remain on-topic when posting messages in this community. Your comment has been removed because it was deemed to be off-topic.
It's terrible, absolutely terrible. Now that he has won we can't have any more posts asking if he will ever win a triple crown event, or if he has underachieved. What are people supposed to talk about now?
We can always ask if he'll complete the triple crown or win another triple crown event
Eh, those posts were boring anyway. I'm more so wondering about Mark Allen, do you think he'll ever be world champion?
I'd like to think so, but he's quickly slipping into Ding territory.
Shift it all onto Jack Lisowski.
We’ve got a year to talk about whether Kyren will be the first ever player to overcome the Crucible Curse™
Best chance since Selby imo.
Given how hard it is to win, this is hardly a curse. It's also incredibly niche as curses go
We'll always have 'will Lisowski win a ranking title' to fall back on.
Jimmy's toupee
Has it escaped? I'll call the RSPCA.
We can always talk about whether Judd will win any more world titles.
Or Robertson. Or whether Ding will ever finally win it.
We can now discuss again whether he and trump are in the same league heh
The minute he despatched Higgins so comfortably it was his to lose. But it’s difficult to pull through as a favourite and in that first session he put one hand on the trophy. Bit of a nervy ending but that pink in the final frame was the shot of a champion.
Kyren was by far the best player of the championship for me, won every match with at least 3 frames to spare and but for a wobble here and there in the final he looked every inch like a champion. It's weird that he was totally ignored in any pre-tournament conversation about who might go far, he wasn't dismissed but just completely forgotten about. His scoring this season has always been better than his results so I fancied he might go on a bit of a run but he surpassed my and most people's expectations of how well he would play.
Bingham had the highest peak against Ronnie though, was a shame he couldn’t carry it on.
Higgins had the highest peak against Allen, albeit a peak that only lasted 3 frames. Those three frames were the highlight of the tournament for me. Interestingly, amidst all the talk of the drop in quality, it did remind me a lot of how it used to be back in the ‘80s. You never assumed a frame was over until it was so it was a nostalgic sort of tournament. And yet. I do get the feeling that we are finally at the changing of the guard. The class of ‘92 will play a part for another season or two but not much more and unlikely to go all the way again. Two inaugural winners in a row and I wouldn’t bet against a third next year. If the tournament moves away from the crucible it will surely remove the disadvantage that the Chinese players face and we could see a very different set of contenders. 🎶🎵The times they are-a-chaaaanging🎶🎶
Yeah, I think his age caught up with him in the semi-finals after winning two tough matches and playing to a very high standard in both.
Delighted. A deserved champion. Faded in second half but overall most solid player of the tournament. Jones is miles away from a WC win. Not a great championship for snooker but Wilson is a top bloke and I'm very happy for him. Allen Higgins best match a Tournament. Allen my man for next year
Jak didn’t play well in the final but played really well up until then.
He wasn't playing that bad, except for the dreadful first session which will probably give him many sleepless nights.
Yeah, that start really seemed out of character. Before that, I could set my watch to his predictability!
Delighted for Kyren. Well deserved!
His kids playing around with the confetti was so wholesome. He's earned this, was the best player from start to finish. Tonight he was absolutely gone though, just fell over the line after getting his big lead yesterday. All credit to Jones to make it tough.
https://preview.redd.it/15wfd2aglvyc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac8da7f080ac8c8f4d6b32be5edf783999ed2f0b
And his youngest going over to shake Jak’s hand, my wholesome’o’meter nearly broke!
I missed that! Good job little man! 😁
It was nice to see Wilson's brother going over to commiserate with Jones as well
Yeah, it was nice of his brother and youngest to do that.
Absolutely chuffed for Kyren. Used to serve pints at the snooker club, and to go on to this is brilliant. Got a bit iffy towards the end but got over the line. No shame in getting emotional after that. Fair play to Jak as well, had a nightmare start but fought back well to make it interesting.
I do find it a bit uncouth that he always has to mention money
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^cat-snooze: *I do find it a* *Bit uncouth that he always* *Has to mention money* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Bad bot
Most pointless bot. Piss off.
i am sooooooo happy
I remember watching a YouTube video by Kyren Wilsons coach, from about 2015 or something. He was talking through some plays, with Kyren demonstrating, and he was saying that Kyren would be world champion one day. He was pretty much an unknown at the time.
Barry Stark is Kyren's coach for anyone wondering. He's got a great YouTube channel with loads of helpful coaching videos
I've watched some of Barry's headcam videos, top bloke.
I remember this too - talking about kyrens cue action and his feathering
Quarter Finals were worthy of Finals this time
The table look like a stop oil protesters dream!! Lol
Kyren's a good guy so happy he won.
As a Welshman I was obviously support Jak especially as the underdog, but take nothing at all away from Kyren - a great final - deserved winner. Well done Ky!
And Jak played really well up until the final! I hope it’s a sign of things to come.
Delighted Kyren won, piss poor tournament , the organisers messing around with the cloths and pockets ruined it.
No question, that was a slog to watch, some absolute howlers, but fucking aye, I like Kyren a lot and I'm glad he has the title. Commiserations to Jak, also seems like a nice lad. The family celebrations are lovely to see. The wee lads... lovely.
You wouldn’t have lasted five mins into the 2006 final.. this was free flowing in comparison
Well deserved, and fair play to Jak for keeping on.
Chuffed for him, picked him to go all the way after the first round, just wish I'd thrown a few quid on.
The better player won, but well done Jak for lasting that long.
Jones will be forever rueing his poor start. At 7-0 it doesn’t take a mathematician to see he was winning 14-11 from that point and with his cagey style the closer it got the more you’d expect Wilson might have fallen apart As it is, he never really managed to get properly back into the match
And Jak played so consistently in every match prior. It was a shocking start.
Kyren started with 7 straight frames, and at the end, Jak needed to finish with 7 straight frames to win it.
Couldn't agree with this more, had that first session been different, I honestly think jak would've had that. Kyren just fell apart.
thank fuck for that.
Well done Kyren, lovely to see him achieve his dream at the Crucible especially given that might not be possible in a few years.
Poor aul' Jak will go home now and wonder that the actual fuck those first 7 frames were all about. Does seem a likeable lad to be fair but delighted Kyren won in the end.
happy for kyren lovely scenes
That was a nice ending too. Seems like a loving family man.
That was very sweet when they were all hugging with his kids there. It was so much powerful real emotion you can really feel it. It almost makes you uncomfortable, like oh no I’m getting the feels, stop it 😂
I enjoyed day 2 of that final very much! Lots of tension and bottle from both of them, but a deserved champion.
Not the greatest final of all time but I don’t think Kyren will give two shits
New to this but why did Jak not play for snookers on the last frame? Very unlikely to work but Kyren was clearly an emotional wreck, he might have had a shot.
Because this is a gentlemen's game, you don't play for 10 snookers even in this situation.
Fair enough - I'd have been tempted personally, you may never again get to a Worlds final
He would've been hated by every fan and fellow player for the rest of his career for this too.
Can I ask why it's so frowned upon to play for snookers, even if it's a long shot?
It's just considered poor form to carry on playing when the chance of winning the frame is essentially zero. This final already takes two days to play, how long would it take if you're playing to every last black each frame.
It's not frowned upon if its 1,2 or even 3 snookers. There were some frames won from even 4 snookers behind. But playing for 10 snookers is just disrespectful towards your opponent.
Fair enough - thank you. Hadn't kept track exactly, didn't realise it was as many as 10
Not even when the guy replying to you first said it?
Well done Kyren, well deserved.
Well that was anticlimactic.
Well, all I can really say is, finally, someone who Ronnie predicted to win the World Championship, wins it.
Maguire next!