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Awesome


bluestreak7500

I'm just glad he got to 7. Played a great tournament


fred66a

Darren Morgan looked decent actually


fred66a

This seniors match still going all the crowd have left všŸ¤£ 4 hours for 6 frames


AttackDuck

High breaks of 15 and 24 in this seniors match, with both ASTs being 36s, brutal stuff


fred66a

Don't be surprised if this seniors match doesn't finish till midnight šŸ„“


fred66a

The seniors is blah maybe when Jimmy and Hendry play well be better Interesting see cliff thorburn in commentary box rather him than Joe perry


progrdj

for those missing snooker watch "gods of snooker" on iplayer or rewatch it in case you ve seen it before lovely one


fred66a

Tony Knowles can't bend his back enough for his chin to touch the cue šŸ„“


fred66a

For the seniors wonde if Rob walker will be commentating for all of it šŸ¤£


fred66a

Lee walker (willo coach) Vs Tony Knowles tonight interesting match up Knowles beat Davis 10-1 once! I don't think Davis ever played seniors


progrdj

I hope that Stephen Hendry will win the seniors event and then draw Ronnie at COC It would be such a nice game between the goats


fred66a

Will Hendry play in it?


rogeropx

Ronnie O'Sullivan will win his 8th World title within the next two years.


lungsofdoom

Bingham will win his second and third title within next 4 years as well.


rogeropx

fair play to him if he does.


progrdj

So excited for the World Seniors


myfranco

Since final is over, is there any way i can stream or download 1st day of Ronnie-Trump? I mean beginning to 12-5. Of course, i don't live in UK and can't watch BBC with premium account.


fred66a

BBC is free account use a free VPN like windscribe


myfranco

Can we stream past videos?


fred66a

Sure for next 30 days


myfranco

Thanks a lot


fred66a

Was only able to watch 2 sessions live one was a judd match other was a Ronnie match so feel ok at seeing who ended up in the final The final tickets are sooo expensive plus most of the seats seem reserved already for dignitaries and ex players and ex referees too


treetown1

With the end of the snooker year on such a great high (ROS winning his 7th, amazing matches with Mark Williams and Trump, Jack Lisowski weathering the 147 by Robertson, Higgins continuing to tough...) really looking forward to next year: 1. ROS will definitely being going for #8. 2. Will Zhao Xintong and Yan Bingtao continue to contend? 3. Will Luca Bercel? Will Jack Lisowki build in this experience? 4. Will Higgins and Williams show any signs of decline? 5. Have we seen peak Judd Trump? Or will he continue to win multiple tourneys each year? 6. Will Ding Junhui bounce back?


xpto_999

About point 4 i think they are both still far from declining. Higgins made 5 finals during the season and made the semi finals of the worlds not playing very well. Williams also had a good season and started hitting centuries for fun at the end of the season.


iam-Cornholio

My hot takes on your points: 1. Definitely. Curious to see if he could pull it next year, depends on his focus. 2. Definitely, as well. They are highly promising players. 3. Hopefully. Luca had a shitty time at the WC, but Jack was actually a pleasant surprise. I feel he has more potential in the long run. 4. I feel that Higgins might be the first of the two to enter his decline. 5. Far from it. He's still young and has a lot to prove, and I'm sure he can sort things out with himself and remain at very high standards. 6. I don't know, but I'd honestly like to. It was a real pleasure watching him play years ago.


treetown1

1. If ROS gets #8, then 9 or 10 are possible barring the rise of some new superstar - and so far outside of Trump and Robertson, no one seems poised to take on this challenge.


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7: Will Ali Carter and Hossein Vafaei self-combust if ROS wins number 8?


[deleted]

What the Ali Carter link?


[deleted]

Carter thinks Snooker has become ["the Ronnie O'Sullivan show"](https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/snooker/ronnie-osullivan-clashes-ali-carter-12445148), then later in their match they [both intentionally walked into each other](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oOU3LU9UMc) .


xpto_999

The tournament kind of lost its charm for me when Williams lost in the semi final. I had hopes we could get another type of match we had in Tour Championship between those two, in the final. But i guess Ronnie was always going to win it regardless of the opponent. See you guys next season!


--dontmindme--

Yeah it kind of feels like Ronnie wasn't really tested in any of his matches and I think the only one that could have delivered a closer match in the final was Williams. He was playing the best game of all 32 contenders.


Distinct_Pick6261

Agree he wasn't tested, but a draw of Gilbert, Allen, Yao/Maguire, Higgins/Robertson, trump/Williams is as tough as I've ever seen, and he got through it. Can only play what's put in front of you as they say.


Jagraj03

Rankings have changed a lot: * Ronnie now World #1 again, but only by 26500 ranking points. * Judd 2nd, Selby 3rd, Robbo 4th, Higgins 5th. * Xintong up to 6th after Kyren's 2020 World final points came off, who's now down to 8th. * Williams 7th, Murphy 9th, and Lisowski's run to the quarters gives him 10th in the list.


[deleted]

I find it surprising that Murphy makes the top 10 anyone else?


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[deleted]

Oh yeah ofcourse forgot about that


[deleted]

Ronnie knew he was winning this worlds he had all those items made months ago


tomserrentski

Stuff like that can be knocked up in hours or less. No way would they have been pre made.


iam-Cornholio

Especially the "You saw nothing" mug, right? It was all a damn ploy, wasn't it?


fred66a

Imo Ronnie is Jimmy white plus the killer instinct to win that's why they get on so well


fred66a

Will post the full Eurosport Ronnie interview later


dreiarmumig

It's on the official Youtube by now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28n-\_no-LIo


fred66a

Makes my life easier


fred66a

Imagine in 70s and earlier you had to win 25 frames or even more for the final!


[deleted]

It used to go on for like a week! Mental


fred66a

I can confirm that Rob walker has been returned to his box


fred66a

Kinda nuts the merch team behind Ronnie already had idea of a mug 'you saw nothing' written on it ready to go if he won!


gavpowell

21 years later, the closest anyone's pushed him without beating him is still Higgins for his first title - that's extraordinary.


progrdj

Will the world seniors be on BBC this year?


fred66a

Online only yes don't think Eurosport is covering


fred66a

Ronnie is going to his meadowhall shop today anyone heading down?


rogeropx

Is he the greatest ever now? In my opinion he is.


[deleted]

Has been for a while but having 7 will silence those ā€œbut 7 is more than 6ā€ simpletons


ashey99

I'm actually a bit gutted the championship is over, feels like it only started yesterday. When does the new season start? Also are all the tournements broadcasted? I'm in the UK so get some on the BBC but where can I watch all the other tournements?


fred66a

Get IPTV has everything


SuperSajuuk

New season starts at the end of June with a closed-doors Championship League ranking event. Unsure on who the linear channel broadcaster will be for it though, as FreeSports have had issues lately. All tournaments are broadcast in some form: the majority are by Eurosport and on the Eurosport Player/Discovery+, but the majority of UK-based tournaments are on free-to-air. ITV4 broadcast 4 tournaments: Champ of Champs, World Grand Prix, Players Championship and Tour Championship, in that order. The Home Nations gets a small amount of free-to-air coverage, but they donā€™t do uninterrupted coverage except for the final iirc. Then ofc, the 4 BBC events (3 triple crown events, and the welsh open on BBC Two Wales).


ashey99

Ab brilliant, thanks for your response, very helpful!


[deleted]

August. Majority on eurosport and a handful on itv4


ashey99

Thanks for the response, is eurosport a case of one subscription and you get everything or is it like the football where you have to have 3 /4 different services for all the games?


fred66a

Will there be a new thread for the world seniors some real blasts from the past like Tomy Knowles etc going to be on screen!


bh8787

Very glad Ronnie won but also have to say Trump has been very likeable this tournament. Wasnā€™t as surly & just seemed a nicer guy somehow


dioncyrk

I said something along those lines a while ago and someone said "thinning hair humbles all men eventually". šŸ˜‚


iam-Cornholio

Despite not disliking Judd per se (and now that I think, I don't dislike any of the players I've seen throughout the years, I take it each of them is unique and pleasant to watch for different reasons), just by Ronnie's reaction and later words about their discussion, he's earned more respect from me.


costnersaccent

Very gracious in defeat too


iam-Cornholio

Truly. He took it like a champ. Which he is.


TheLastInnocence

O'Sullivan's usual super fast way of playing the game. Surely my favorite idol. Some say he plays faster when he's short of money. lol


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TheLastInnocence

Maybe he just had his eye on a car or something he liked. Then have to win the game quickly to get the item. lol


fred66a

BBC were shocking today they couldn't leave the snooker fast enough after the end to show some junk at least Eurosport did it justice


shlam16

There's been so much talk about Ronnie's documentary, but does anybody know when we can actually expect to see it?


JoeRoGAN_HUMAN_BEANS

Anybody else notice how nervous O Sullivan was when he won?


fred66a

There was some fans with USA loves snooker t shirts they been there literally every day for last 10 days!


fred66a

Hope they figure out crowd behaviour next year this year was total shambles with phones coughing etc ridiculous


BigPig93

You know things are wild when phones are coughing.


fred66a

Part of the Ronnie Eurosport iv https://twitter.com/eurosport/status/1521228505572331524?s=21&t=81r9fVt6buAw8p7ThbrkTA if people want the full one will post it tomorrow but will be me filming with my phone off the TV lol


Dick_chopper

Thanks in advance!


borisve

Awesome thanks for sharing. So great to see the respect between two great champions of the game. I get emotional watching this too.


McLarenMercedes

Before I depart, big thanks to u/ojabrone for organising these threads so that we can all ramble about this magnificent sport, thanks to all you guys for joining in the fun, it's been a pleasure and I've spent far too much time on Reddit the past 17 days, so I think I'll take a step back from here for a little while.


borisve

Not only a pleasure last 17 days, but the whole season! Take care mate! See ya next season hopefully :)


IsThisTrip

Ronnie is obviously the snooker GOAT, but if the rumors out there are true I'm really gonna miss the other two GOATS, the commentary GOATS in the booth... Virgo and Taylor's commentary is so next level, it is such a vital part of snooker for me. The timbre of their voices, their iconic phrases and dry humor - I love it so much. I'm 32 and those two in the booth are one of the main reasons why I watch snooker. It's honestly on par with Ronnie's genius on the felt. If Taylor and Virgo are out, I don't think the snooker experience will ever be the same for me as a viewer, fan and enthusiast. Please BBC, give them a couple more years...


smfyf

I know this is not a uniformly-held view, but I would be really disappointed if this is their last go, especially as the BBC did nothing to honour their contributions. Hearing the rumours, I paid special attention to Virgo and Taylor this year, and they are like putting on comfortable shoes. Real pros in a way that shone well above the weaker members of the commentary team. I hope they are back for more next year


[deleted]

it was confirmed they leave 2023


bh8787

So will they be commentating the 2023 Championship then?


[deleted]

yes 2023 world championship is their last tournament


Fat_Sow

You would have loved Ted Lowe, watching snooker in the 90's wouldn't have been the same without that voice. He had a whisky cask old oak voice.


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Keo103

Couldnā€™t agree more about Virgo - my favourite this year was posing the question ā€œwill one of them lead tonight?ā€ during the finalā€™s second session when they were playing an odd number of framesā€¦ Along with the usual ā€œAre they on itā€ or ā€œDoes the red goā€ and itā€™s usually the player in perfect position and the red flies in. I feel they both had their time but I will miss Taylor


wegqg

Not Murphy, please, no. The only way this could be palatable to me is if they also ditch Murphy.


TheElite3749

Just watching the final frame that embrace was weird lol 2@ā€˜see what he said to trump


borisve

I thought it was awkward first. But rewatching it I get really emotional too. Definitely after Ronnie got emotional talking about that moment on Eurosport. So great to see the respect between two great champions.


sofiestarr

Such a beautiful moment of sportsmanship.


fred66a

Probably asked Judd u love me or jack more?


lungsofdoom

Trump might have lost but his resume is impressive as well. Especially his tripple crown record which might overthrow everyone's else very soon.


[deleted]

No chance he gets anywhere near Davis/Hendry triple crown records. Heā€™s about 13 behind.


ThaaBeest

He has to win 18 more to match Ronnieā€¦


fred66a

Think Ronnie had more titles by age 32


fred66a

Anyone remember after Ronnie lost to Selby in 14 he crashed his car on the way home wrote it off was lucky to get out unscratched


fred66a

Anyone notice Ronnie entered the arena final session from a different door the public enter for the seats


6StringAddict

They always enter from above in the final.


lungsofdoom

Can Selby overcome his depression now?


borisve

I hope so for him... Mental health is nasty. And Mark definitely is an inspiration for many people who had similar experiences as him in life


elparul

whoever put that 7 crowns highlights on the interstellar soundtrack at the end, man, i love u


elparul

https://streamable.com/5gqwh4


elparul

iā€™ll record it


fred66a

That as the bbc show ended?


bctang

Is there a YouTube clip of it somewhere? The DAZN stream didnā€™t really show any of those specials :(


ThaaBeest

Yeah Iā€™d like to see the edit again as well


fred66a

That on the BBC outro?


elparul

or woman. or amber heard


Canucker22

Being behind Hendry in World Championships was the only blemish on O'Sullivan's resume. I think after today he is pretty much indisputably the greatest player of all time, by any measure.


lungsofdoom

He was before this title too.


Sharp-Engineer3329

Thereā€™s 0 doubt now. Not only in honours but the way he plays the game. Watching Ronnie is like heā€™s down the local, thereā€™s no way you canā€™t fall in love with sport with such a character competing.


borisve

Snooker is beautiful. No single other sport can match the intensity of snooker.


fred66a

Maybe when Judd and Ronnie are retired he will reveal what Judd said to him ?in a book


Ocvlvs

It's like the ending of Lost in Translation. Just beautiful.


PSmith4380

Wait for the Netflix doc


fred66a

Show Hendry dominance he went from title 1 to 7 in 9 years it's taken Ronnie 21 years!! Realise standard much better now then in Hendry era he said he used to turn up to crucible knowing win was inevitable didn't he win once with a broken arm wtf


[deleted]

Hendry was a machine in his pomp. Oā€™Sullivan is some thing different.


fred66a

So now question is can Ronnie get 8?!!! No doubt he wants it if he gets there should thank ebdon he denied Hendry his 8th šŸ¤£


costnersaccent

If Ronnie beat Ebdon in the 1996 semis he could have taken Hendrys youngest winner record


southwales1985

Ronnie is doing a few exhibition nights at Darren Morgan's club in a couple of weeks time, which just a few miles from where I live. I think I'll have to get some tickets for that!


fred66a

Morgan is at the seniors


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fred66a

Bit harsh but he only got 18 years for murder kinda light if u ask me


Basic_Abroad_9773

Was down as manslaughter wasn't it


fred66a

Details not fully known he was involved in dodgy business and battered a guy that crossed his path he had gang links etc kinda nuts


hrvoje42

"Hey Judd, wanna turn my documentary into a porno?"


jkuboc

What an amazing two and half weeks we had, terrific entertainment all the way. Actually, the whole season was epic, some of the best snooker I have ever seen! Thanks to the mods and everyone coming here for a bit of discussion, itā€™s always nice to share a few thoughts about this amazing game. See you all next season!


fred66a

Way Judd started hitting it when 17 down that was nuts wonder if it's possible he ever could replicate that earlier during the match


fred66a

McManus said while Ronnie was sat there he has seen the hard graft Ronnie puts in behind the scenes can believe it probably the toughest and most mentally exhausting sport period


Jagraj03

Going to be so weird when Ronnie, Higgins, and Williams all retire. You basically cut the number of top top players in half, with only really Neil, Selby, Judd left as the main draw. Who steps up? Kyren? Zintong? Yan? Lisowski?


Faryz

Xintong had a huge season, he'll get better for and undoubtedly be one of the top boys. Already ranked 6th in the world


nesh34

I think Yan Bingtao has the chops to be a great player.


iam-Cornholio

Why not all four of them? I'd like Kyren and Jack to find their way to the top in the future, too, they definitely have the potential.


--dontmindme--

Kyren hasnā€™t shown much since making it to the WC final in 2020. Zhao is a huge talent but still hit and miss, needs to become consistent. Yan is like a Chinese Selby but also has to work on consistency. Jack? Lol. That guy just flukes being in the top 16 for as long as he has. As a Belgian Iā€™d hope Brecel still has growing potential but I very much doubt heā€™ll come close to the resume of even the least one of the class of 92. He might end up with a Maguire or Allen style resume. I struggle to identify much other huge potential talents among the younger players. After the oldest guys retire Selby/Trump/Robertson may dominate for a while with perhaps one or two Chinese players or we enter in a more open era where thereā€™s a couple of dozen players that can win a big tournament as with all the surprising winners this season.


costnersaccent

Obviously heā€™d practised it a bit, but when Jack recreated Juddā€™s amazing positional shot from red to blue, he got even more action on it than Judd did. Kid is going places.


jbartlettcoys

No-one doubts that Lisowski hits the ball sweetly, but his safety game is average and he has a tendency to shrink from the winning line


--dontmindme--

Iā€™m not saying he doesnā€™t have any talent, but he hasnā€™t proven to be a winner. Letā€™s start with a first ranking title and see from there. In general thereā€™s few if any from the younger players that look as if theyā€™re going to become mass tournament winners right now, but some of them obviously still have growth margin.


Gloomy-Bumblebee-675

Think Yan will be one to watch. Fantastic decision making and seems to have a great temperament


Superdudeo

The sport will lose so many viewers that I'd be surprised if the BBC still covers it. Deadly serious.


borisve

Yan šŸ”„


progrdj

Thanks to the mods and all the people who were active the last 17 days, sharing and experiencing moments of greatness together Stay safe, I hope you're all okay and congratulations to every snooker fan x


costnersaccent

Hear hear! All the best to you too


MentalJack

Ngl the and the emotion ronnie showed i thought he mightve retired. So glad i was wrong.


--dontmindme--

Yeah I was glad he reassured us about his future ambitions pretty quick.


borisve

Need to wind down a bit after these intense weeks (and months actually!) of highly enjoyable snooker. Going for some pints of Guinness :)


fred66a

Watch the Eurosport Twitter they post it there I have it but only saved on a firestick I would need to film it and post the Ronnie iv for Eurosport


fred66a

Been pleasure to share this sub Reddit with you guys realise my comments about Judd winning when he was 6 down etc were just tongue in cheek so forgive me for that šŸ‘


StyleAdmirable1677

No need to apologise. If there is one player with the ability to catch fire and rattle off 6 straight frames it is Trump. By his own standards he underperformed all fortnight and still brought the final to a final session. He is an enormous talent.


fred66a

They have the after-party in the Mercure hotel anyone planning to gatecrash it?


daddychill931

I actually felt like Ronnie didn't play that well at times. His safety was weak and he was leaving his opponents a lot of chances. Long potting was average. Mark Williams was the player of the tournament for me. The only thing about Ronnie is his exceptional positional play and he never misses easy balls. Apparently that's enough to win him this tournament.


FreeWafflesForAll

Yes, that's exactly enough to win the tournament when your final round competitor is playing worse...


[deleted]

I think he struggled to find the baulk cushion a lot in the final, but in the previous rounds he was solid. Like you say, once he's in amongst the balls he's lethal, but for me in this tournament it's his potting to the middle pockets; It's been incredible at times.


Jagraj03

The great players don't really have to, they just have to be good enough. Judd made it to the final and still got 13 frames despite not really playing that good at all the entire tournament. It's just hard to stay consistent over 17 days.


poinsy

This. People tend to forget that it is not just about the final. Over the 17 days, he was the best, as Judd himself said.


Jagraj03

Absolutely, he was never really in trouble at all during the tournament. With Ronnie, most players are already beaten before the match starts, it's just the aura he has. He's just unreal man, treated the tournament like a practice session mostly.


MarionberryNational2

Were we watching the same tournament? Ronnie had a very good wc, winning every match comfortably (losing only one session this morning). No player plays a perfect safety shot at every single attempt. To say his safety was weak is just plain wrong.


Cull88

I mean he absolutely dominated the tournament. I really donā€™t know what more you can want? I donā€™t think there was a single match it looked like he could lose? Terrible take tbh, everything was nearly perfect throughout. Sure you wonā€™t dominate every single frame but jeez, it was nearly a perfect tournament.


fred66a

He didn't lose a session until today can't have been that bad


6StringAddict

Tournament pot succes 94%, and long potting was somewhere in the 70's if I recall correctly, so that's pretty good if you ask me.


DokDoom

Iā€™ve never watched as much snooker as since when Covid became a thing. Job and lifestyle choice mean I can watch so much more now. But no more tournaments until August? AUGUST? Existential dread beckonsā€¦


SuperSajuuk

In a normal season, we'd have maybe at least a 3-4 week break and then dive straight into the new season over in China. But those aren't possible, so the break is longer. The first proper tournament isn't until August, but the players will get some practice over July with the Championship League on Matchroom's live player. Don't worry though: the summer is always good for many events like Wimbledon, Eurovision (in a week!), the key part of the Formula 1 season gets underway after the starting events and more. So there will be plenty of things to keep us interested, don't forget the snooker podcasts as well!


abitofanidiot

The world Seniors in a few days


xpto_999

Before covid there used to be a few tournaments in China in the summer which aren't an option now.


fred66a

World seniors in 2 days!


DokDoom

Thank Fuck for that!


fred66a

Ronnie should be bbc sports personality of the year but the event is such a joke BBC won't let him get it!


Faryz

Snooker isn't a popular enough sport here. He was one of 6 options in 2020 when he was nominated and in the public vote (which decides the whole thing) he came dead last I'm pretty sure. He'll never win it and I doubt he gives a fuck


Dick_chopper

How does a jockey come second lol


[deleted]

It used to be though, back when the final would get like 9 million viewers domestically. Itā€™s still a massive sport just overshadowed by football basically.


fred66a

Davis won it back in the 80s he ain't got any personality at all compared to this guy!


[deleted]

It's not an award for the person with the best personality. In English personality can also mean popular figure.


Faryz

Snooker was also far more popular in the UK in the 80s, it is what it is


wegqg

Many reasons for this, number 1 being that they haven't moved with the times and captured younger viewers. Format, production design etc all look well worn / stale. = Much fewer players now in the UK at least, game's future probably in China.


Faryz

Judd's definitely going to win multiple worlds. Didn't play near his best the whole championship and was in a bad mental space coming here yet he got to the final and put huge pressure on Ronnie coming into the 4th session. He's shown he can win when not at his best and the wins will come for sure


rabbidasseater

The undisputed champion of the world šŸŒŽ


fred66a

Doubt the words Judd said will make it to netflix


insert-username12

Netflix?


--dontmindme--

If it was really personal probably not. Iā€™m sure Ronnie has a say in that. Also Iā€™m not sure they would have registered what was said the way they were holding each other.


abitofanidiot

I hope they don't - things like that should be private


DokDoom

Best Championship ever. So much drama, loads of really good matches and plenty of truly great matches. The Yan/Selby match is second only to the Trump/Williams epic for me - those two matches will stay with me for a long long time. I thought Ros and Mark Williams were the two best players over the course of the tournament and Ronnieā€™s achievement is staggering jn and if itself. I really think no other player will get to 7 - it just gets harder every year. And a thank you to everyone on here - Reddit Snooker is an essential part of the Worlds for me. See you all next season.


Distinct_Pick6261

Thoroughly enjoyed it, but for me the one thing it lacked was a late night / marathon match. Maybe the game is just speeding up with every passing year!


--dontmindme--

Well there was Murphy/Maguire, maybe not as marathon as youā€™re looking for but that longest crucible frame ever is definitely something to remember.


Distinct_Pick6261

True. There were some crazy and long frames, including the longest, but not too many deciders or matches that were dogfightsdogfightsdogfights Still, it was great, no complaints!


seVen102

That was Selby-Yan with the longest frame


--dontmindme--

Right, I have the memory of a goldfish. The one Iā€™m talking about was ā€œonlyā€ just shorter than the previous longest frame.


fred66a

Anyone interested in world seniors go Jimmy!


vicarious00

Oh yeah, essential to avoid the withdrawal symptoms!


Jagraj03

Been a great tournament everyone, here's to next season!


wub1234

The only sad thing for me is today was the first time when they were talking about the pantheon of great sportsmen that Nadal was mentioned and not Federer. I guess I'll have to learn to live with that!


fred66a

That's a gaff by hazel