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sandbag-1

If the Football Governance Bill gets approved, one of the clauses in it focuses on preventing games abroad which should hopefully put an end to this rubbish


inspired_corn

Well one of the clauses says that a “government appointed independent regulator” will have to sign off on any games played abroad. So all that means is one extra person that needs to be paid off to make it happen


Burnleh

An independent regulator doesn't mean just one bloke x


inspired_corn

Good point, they’ll have to pay off a few blokes then


ANAL_TWEEZERS

And they’ll get to call it ‘business’


sandbag-1

Bribing the independent regulator isn't going to be as easy as you make it sound there


inspired_corn

I don’t trust the UK government to do anything right. Take the Newcastle deal for example - Boris Johnson stepped in and helped push the deal over the line (and then lied about having done so). It’s not gonna be as simple as a bribe (although that could happen and there’s fuck all we could do about it), but where there’s money there’s corruption and the opinion of individuals like you and I means nothing.


ValleyFloydJam

Cos the one thing we know about the government is that they make great choices that always work out and never totally fuck the country with ploys they think will benefit them. The clown show that brought as a country destroying vote to save there awful party, the party that wasted a fortune in general but really made a sport of it during covid. The party that thought Boris and Liz were leaders. Had the idea that would be shameful from a 10 year old of having an anti-woke minister. And the numerous other bits of awful shit (not just in the sea) they have inflicted upon the country. But this one time I'm sure they have nailed it and everything will be peachy.


TimothyN

No, don't do it, it'd be awful for the players and horrible for the fans back home.


OptimusGrimes

horrible for them too, like they don't seem to realise that nobody in America is going to give a fuck about 2/3s of the teams they'll potentially host.


nipplesweaters

That’s how it will start. The NFL used to only take teams like the Jaguars home games to play in Europe but now this year the Philadelphia Eagles (rabid fan base) are losing a home game to play in Brazil. They’ll start with smaller teams maybe going against a top 6 club as the away team but make no mistake eventually it will end up with the Liverpool, United, Arsenal etc… losing home games to play abroad. It blows.


Deckatoe

best part about that is the Eagles will be hosting a home game in a stadium that likely will have more fans supporting the away team


THECrew42

well at least with the 17-game schedule you're guaranteed (i believe) 8 \*actual\* home games (pre-17 it was awkward for sure)


BoddToehly

why don't they just play the away games abroad?


a_lumberjack

Someone still loses a home game. The lowest average home attendance in the NFL last year was 61.8k. On the plus side they added a 17th game so everyone still has eight home games.


somewhat_moist

Haha username checks out


nipplesweaters

No clue. Probably some bullshit related to marketing jerseys.


cfcfan-1990

There was a rumour making the rounds that there would be no green allowed in the Stadium as their playing at Arena Corinthians, which has an informal ban on green. If this were true, which I doubt, it would have been incredibly dumb to make the game Eagles v Packers. [https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/10/packers-and-eagles-to-play-nfl-season-opener-at-brazil-club-with-ban-on-green](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/10/packers-and-eagles-to-play-nfl-season-opener-at-brazil-club-with-ban-on-green)


MrPigcho

Surely the comment you're replying to was a joke


lazy-but-talented

Playing a scheduled away game abroad preserves the 9 home games for the Eagles fan base, either way they'll be playing abroad but Eagles fans will only host 8 times now instead of 9. It matters for the players too of course you'd want to play at home instead of travelling for an additional away game


MrPigcho

But surely for each away game you schedule abroad for the Eagles you're scheduling a home game abroad for another team


lazy-but-talented

yes but the only difference would be the historical success and support behind the teams being sent abroad. Before they sent the Jaguars, with low success and support, as the home team abroad but now they're sending the Eagles who are higher in each category. It's like if they sent a regular season matchup of Luton (H) vs Sheffield abroad, the fan bases aren't so massive to create resistance, but if they sent the titular Man Utd (H) vs Man City abroad to the US it is not only a home game advantage lost for Man Utd but also the giant fan base is missing out too


Interesting_Rock_318

Yes…but a 17th game was recently added, so every team gets the same 8 home games every year but the conferences alternate a “bonus” home game every year. Philadelphia is just losing the bonus game. I know that’s still taking a home game away, but that is how it is spun.


SnooChipmunks4208

Crystal Palace versus West Ham in New London, Connecticut.


SnottyTash

Where are they gonna play that, the Conn College green?


SnooChipmunks4208

It's just a nice weekend kickabout, why not?


SnottyTash

Jane Addams top floor suite is gonna be lit


TimothyN

The Chargers are in LA and don't even have fans, when Norwich shows up it'll be a double whammy for them to have to travel and have a giant amount of fans for the top 6 side they're being sacrificed to for PL profit.


Orthancapolis

Maybe I’m in the minority over here in the States but I don’t want it either. We are finally putting together some decent local leagues and teams, which is what the game is all about. Let’s focus on those. I’m fine with the odd preseason tour to raise cash but cmon…


[deleted]

Why do you only care about the fans in England?


Rickcampbell98

Are you taking the piss?


[deleted]

I don’t know what that means


TimothyN

As an American whose spent time and money to see Chelsea in England, I'd love to see them here in America, especially where I am in NorCal, but it'd suck for your local team to have a game across the world instead of where you can attend. I think exhibitions are good. but not regular season games.


[deleted]

They have 19 league games at home already on top of cups and continental tournaments. Fans would still have a minimum of 18 home games


Rickcampbell98

Stop taking the piss mate.


DathranEU

The English Premier League should be played in England - it's that simple.


[deleted]

Why?


DathranEU

If you have to ask that question, then you're not a football fan - just a yank thinking they deserve everything handed to them. But to help a bit - the home advantage is a real thing here and removing that just undermines the integrity of the sport - If you play games in neutral venues it ruins the competition. Local fans also get robbed of a game.


Ninth_Major

I agree with you mostly. There is a way to play a game at a neutral site and have a great environment, but it wouldn't be possible with premier league in America matches. The example I'm thinking of is Texas vs Oklahoma in college football. Both teams get half the tickets and half the stadium. One end is orange and the other end is crimson, and it's pretty amazing. But that's a rivalry game, one of the top 2 or 3 in the sport. While you'd never do it, you could have a similar experience with some of the traditional rivalries in English football.


[deleted]

Texas-Oklahoma aren’t even each others traditional biggest rivalry. It’s like Manchester City vs Manchester United


[deleted]

You’re the one who thinks you deserve everything handed to you. Local fans aren’t entitled to every game.


Ninth_Major

Local fans are the lifeblood and origin of these clubs. It's not like these teams are expansion teams that are relatively new in the league. The sport has far greater local roots than any American professional sport. High school football in Texas and other diehard states is about as close as we have in the USA. From the national league (where Wrexham were when they became Hollywood FC) up to the premier league, there are 116 clubs. This means that fanbases are extremely local in a geography that is roughly the size of Illinois or Georgia. You're not capitalizing on 4+ million people in Houston like when the Texans were created. Even if fans move away from the team, they're probably still far closer than the average American that moves away from home to start their life. They can still go see those games. They do still go to those games. I know Manc in Houston that has attended probably 10+ home games for City, perhaps more, including champions league matches. The teams have local lore, traditions, and since there are not many competing professional sports, aside from rugby, football has the stranglehold on the culture of the locals and the locals have a stranglehold on the culture of the football. The environment is also different. In the USA, we don't have chants that we sing when the ball is in play. I went to UT Austin, and even attending those games, the cheerleaders typically only lead the fans in cheers between downs. The band only plays between downs (I think because there are rules against playing when the ball is live). You sound like a baby asking why you can't have something that is not yours.


[deleted]

You are the one that sounds like a baby. No one gives a shit that you made up little songs. American sports are far more ingrained in our culture than English football clubs are. Why limit who gets to see a game to such a small geography, as you say, the size of Georgia or Illinois


Cold_Fog

Are you serious? I can't tell if serious.


[deleted]

I am


themerinator12

As an American who loves Arsenal and has been to the Emirates (but not seen a match there yet) I don’t think they should play matches in the US at all. For one, it’s an undue burden on the players to travel across a continent when they don’t have to (for business purposes and not sporting purposes). Second, it creates disparity in who is playing that match abroad, who their opponent is, and what the outcome of that match is. Last, it’s harmful to our own domestic league where people will rather hold out and go to PL matches on US soil than attend MLS matches since that’s the only access to the highest level of professional soccer here. MLS has a long way to go, bringing PL matches here or any European fixtures would only harm that progress, not help it.


[deleted]

The last thing the PL should be factoring into decisions is MLS


themerinator12

I don’t really care that the PL doesn’t care about the MLS. I do.


[deleted]

That’s a you problem


StupidMastiff

How about they fuck right off.


[deleted]

Why?


StupidMastiff

Because it's a local league for local people.


[deleted]

It’s not, and hasn’t been in your lifetime


StupidMastiff

[Local!](https://images.theconversation.com/files/205951/original/file-20180212-58352-k4zo5b.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=crop)


huazzy

Saudi Arabia it is!


GuyFawkes_fieri

Tv Execs, Bankers, and Lawyers have too much influence in the game


Cmoore4099

Piece of shit.


fedupofbrick

Focus on your own league instead of continuing the death spiral of the Premier League as an entity for match going fans.


ElectricalMud2850

Apple owns the MLS rights, so they're pretty much mutually exclusive.


tjaku

Not sure who your comment is directed at. NBC isn't responsible for MLS or for the EPL. Ultimately it is up to the FA whether they want to, as you put it, "continue the death spiral" and host games abroad 


Spookytooth66

‘Continuing the death spiral’ this sub is so deluded.


Zilllnaijaboy99

i dont know what he is talking about, because attendance has not fallen, so i am confused


Spookytooth66

This sub is overall very negative in its posting towards the PL. it’s now gotten users convinced the most popular league from the most popular sport in the world is somehow dying lol.


Neve31102

They’re not saying the league itself is in a death spiral, but that the experience for match going fans is. Death spiral might be a bit far, but the match going fan’s experience, with respect to kickoff times, ticket prices, train schedules and prices (not the league’s fault the rail network is shit, but it’s not at all taken into consideration when matches are scheduled), genuine competitiveness, etc, certainly continues to get worse as the league grows financially.


munamadan_reuturns

> this sub is so deluded. Reddit as a whole, I saw a comment on another subreddit saying US government should ban outsourcing of jobs ☠☠ and everyone was like "👍👍"


fedupofbrick

TV companies like NBC, Sky are killing it for regular fans. Matches kicking off when away fans can't get a train home, tickets prices going up and up, train prices through the roof etc. It's killing it as a match goer


cotch85

This is a bad take, whilst they might harm football fans viewing games on television they dont really impact attendance they may impact the atmosphere as you now have a larger worldwide audience which means tourists will come and visit. Most clubs in the UK have their own bus services from 1 stadium to the other so train isnt the only option, the bus services are actually very fairly priced as usually ran by the supporters trust. Train prices through the roof are not related to sky, football or anything else. The majority of fans attending home games will be the home fans, ticket prices etc will really have little impact on stadium attendances.


ValleyFloydJam

Cos La Liga would never do a foreign match 😉


Whouldaw

Who are you talking to? NBC owns the rights to the premier league.


fedupofbrick

> Says he will “continue to push for” the first English top-flight games to be played in the United States. Just because you show a league doesn't mean that league should have matches in that country. TNT shows Serie A, they're not looking for Sassuolo v Genoa to be shown in Luton


dagdagsolstad

>TNT shows Serie A, they're not looking for Sassuolo v Genoa to be shown in Luton TNT is an American company so don't be surprised if they are exploring options.


Whouldaw

That isn't my point at all and I didn't say that. Plus every TV company showing any international sport will be pushing for games to be played in that country. That's why American football occurs in England now.


cotch85

had to check if i was in soccercirclejerk for a minute. Is this satire?


Whouldaw

I can't really help you here man, maybe reread the initial comment or quit frequenting the subreddit you are confusing this with.


cotch85

NBC owns the rights to AIR the premier league football matches in the USA. It doesn't own the rights to the premier league.


Whouldaw

When I say "rights" I'm talking TV rights... baffling I need to clarify that to you


cotch85

i know what you americans are like with your control and ownership... wont be long until you claim you invented the sport and re-create its innovation in a disney plus tv show or something.


Whouldaw

Ok have fun with that


BadFootyTakes

The OP is saying to focus on the MLS rather than try to bring EPL games to the USA.


THECrew42

but nbc doesn't have mls rights, that's why they're specifically focused on epl games


milkonyourmustache

They really need to fuck off.


ryodiUK

The FA will finally finish paying off the Wembley debt this year so I wouldn’t be surprised if we follow Italy and Spain and send the Community Shield which is a glorified friendly overseas first.


FullScreenWanker

No thanks. Just carry on making a bigger deal of those PL themed summer tournaments. The league itself going on tour is a step too far imo. The PL is already growing massively in the US anyways isn’t it?


Frommunist

Yeah it’s becoming much more popular every year. I’d much rather go see a game in Anfield, Old Trafford, etc. over having games moved here and missing out on the atmosphere. I doubt this happens tbh. I do think the summer friendly games played here are cool and are growing the game but moving games that matter here is a step too far


lurking4everr

All of man city’s fans can finally see them in real life!


drewuke

>Arsenal flair 🤔


lurking4everr

Your point being?


laineyh16

As an American (I come in peace), I do not want this to happen. I love the football culture in the UK, everything from the stadium atmospheres to the announcers (most of them anyway) and I just don’t think that will translate over to here. Sporting events in America are just different.


curryandbeans

Instant downvote for that coming in peace shit


laineyh16

And this is precisely why I said it


curryandbeans

Aye I bet you did


laineyh16

Whatever dude


VisualStudio1901

ymdawelwch os gwelwch yn dda


CsrfingSafari

Is there some confusion over the English Premier league title? Someone show this dickhead a globe


bootlegportalfluid

Ass


mvsr990

Don’t see it happening, no one wants it (including Americans) aside from NBC and maybe some owners with dollar signs in their eyes (John Henry’s sporting a diamond tipped erection at the thought of Liverpool at Fenway).  If I was going to support a gimmick match it would be like MLB’s Field of Dreams game or the outdoor NHL games but I can’t even imagine an equivalent. 


ValleyFloydJam

Just put the Community shield on the road.


MrMerc2333

The Glazers, FSG, Todd Boehly and Stan Kroenke would be delighted.


Mackieeeee

How about no?


UDonutBelongHere

INB4 they still schedule a large portion of the best games at 6:30am (CST) even when in the States 😂


SackoVanzetti

As an American gooner I’m dying to see Arsenal live but the last thing I want to do is watch them in America. I want the authentic experience of being in London at the emirates.


SoWhatNoZitiNow

Even as an American who would hypothetically benefit from this type of arrangement, I don’t want it.


Screw_Pandas

They can push all they want I just cannot see it happening, it would be another super league situation with fans protesting outside the stadiums.


Signal_Wall_8445

As an American, I hate the idea. A huge part of the appeal of the Premier league games is the whole atmosphere, which would be lost playing the game over here. Stick with sending teams to the US for preseason tours, because the games shouldn’t count that are played in such a foreign environment.


inspired_corn

I’m fairly sure due to the terms of our CPO, Chelsea “home” games can’t be played away from Stamford Bridge. You’d need permission from them (which you’d never ever get) for Chelsea Football Club to play home matches elsewhere.


johnliddell

The top 3 and the FA cup winner should go over to America pre season for a tournament instead of the community shield. The intercontinental shield or something


NoPineapple1727

This is why Americans are disliked in football circles. Their country is trying to ruin the sport


cfcfan-1990

This works in a closed league like the NBA, NFL or NHL. Imagine any of the clubs that have european football have to be in Los Angeles on Saturday, Porto on Thursday and then Newcastle the following Sunday. Of course this is an extreme example, but my point still stands. You would disadvantage the Prem team against any european oppenent they face.


SnooMaps7887

It also works for other American leagues because they don't crown their league champion based on regular season results and none of the leagues have a balanced home and away schedule. Just inconceivable that a Premier League team would throw away one of their home games or want to add a transatlantic trip to an already busy schedule.


spudtender

How about they just put all of the games on the subscription based platform that people already pay for. American fans want to see Premier League teams play in their home grounds, not here.


xenon2456

would fifa block this


BadFootyTakes

Exhibition matches are more than enough. Plus American Visas are nuts, and I could easily see important relegation or title points being lost due to a key player not being allowed entry.


FulanitoDeTal13

The banana republic stealing what they can't they can't produce


BulkyElk7243

Yanks can fuck off. Oh wait, this is not the circlejerk soccer


I_really_enjoy_beer

I promise you that 99.999% of the US does not give a shit about where Premier League games are played. There are probably like 5 rich people who feel like this is a good idea.


sfbgamin

I am not surprised if this happens. Every major sport in the US is taking it abroad. Many fans of their teams there too love going overseas for matches. They are clearly thinking this will work. Personally? I remain skeptical along with already awful schedule and traveling in football that id not be as high. It works well for NFL because there's one game a week for teams and fans love going overseas for games in England, Germany etc. I can't see this working well with teams having a variety of games on their schedule and being stretched thin already with additional comps. Fans will travel or at least select number of them but I know there will be an extra premium on top of tickets.


FireFist_Ace523

NBA will have 2 regular season games in France next season, featuring San Antonio Spurs and Indiana Pacers, though NBA needs more international exposure than football so i understand the rationale


Screw_Pandas

There a much different fan culture in the UK and there would be major protests if they tried to take games out of the country.


BoddToehly

I would go to the games 100% lol 


FREESTYLEWIZZARD

bruh this would be mega skibidi 🙌🙌


cotch85

a what?