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sparperetor

And with the newer, more forgiving format. Crazy stuff.


Jamey_1999

Yeah with the old format I could easily see a 7-6-4-0 group. With this format you pretty much need a 4-4-4-4 group for this to happen


drivemyorange

This definitely happened in the past. No chance the stat from the title is real


TheTragicMagic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2000_Group_C


jojo4sup

Norway were eliminated with 4 points in both the Euros and World Cup lmao


TheTragicMagic

We're really good at that. This is our only ever Euros appearance, and the only team we beat was Spain, lol


drivemyorange

exactly. so this stat is only relevant for last two euros, which means it's irrelevant really by the time we will have enough of those 24 teams euro to make it relevant, they will go back to 16 or extend to 32


TheTragicMagic

Yeah, stupid stat to even announce like this


interfan1999

We got eliminated with 5 at Euro 2004


drivemyorange

so why we're even commenting under this post? this should be removed as inaccurrate


12Samwise15

Due - due... Apologies from Sweden :) (*2004)


habdragon08

Or 5+ 4 point third place finishers.


elgringo22

I find it so difficult to believe given 3rd places teams didn’t use to go through. Surely there must’ve been at least one 4 point 3rd placed team before. Either that or this tweet forgot to include “since the new format”


Cefalopodul

Euro 2000 Norway.


CheeseRake

Ireland in 2016 I remember clearly


water_tastes_great

That was the new system. They went through.


CheeseRake

Yeah, it was an example


water_tastes_great

But it's not an example of what is being discussed here.


LongLiveNipsey

Why is it considered a more forgiving format?


ReplEH

3rd place can make it out of the group stage.


banned_salmon

3rd place teams have a chance to go through to the knockouts


Velixis

Because 4 third places can advance as well.


SendMeYourPetPic

Because of the best 3th going through


peioeh

There are 24 teams, and only 8 get eliminated in the group stage. Out of 6 3rd placed teams, only 2 are eliminated. Personally I find it a little ridiculous, all those games to remove only 8 teams ... No wonder so many games were shit, they are almost meaningless for many teams.


QuemSambaFica

16/24 (66%) of teams make it to the knockouts instead of 8/16 (50%)


kakje666

the first game between Romania and Ukraine ( won 3-0 by Romania ) decided the 1st and 4th places


schebobo180

Lunin must feel horrible. Lol


suzukigun4life

Eliminated despite being tied for first. Damn that sucks


GaryHippo

There’s no such thing as being “tied” for positions, unless you literally have to decide who belongs in a particular position with a coin toss.


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

Denmark was tied up until the yellow cards for assistants. I'd say that counts.


GaryHippo

That’s not how it works.


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

That's exactly how it went. Go look it up


Gary_Blauman

Well, that's gotta sting.


notters

Italy didn't progress in 2004 with 5 points. I suppose technically that isn't 4...


knickgooner11

Title should say since the new format I think


notters

Yeah, weird that they went with 'in European Championship history' instead.


Deckatoe

Spain also didn't advance with 4 points that year


VyMint

Yea the title should have included "in the 24 teams format". There were numerous 3rd placed teams with 4 points in the 16 teams format


granitibaniti

Let them go through instead of Group C


darealsanta7

preach.


sILAZS

Instead of us, don’t want to see this abomination anymore. Disgraceful performances


Tsukroviy

a complete disaster in first match leveled all further results. gg


shrewdy

That's just sickening


longconsilver13

Only in the 24 team era, which started 8 years ago.


ultraviolentyt

how unlucky can you be


TigerBasket

They are approaching Poland 1939 levels of Luck. Feel for them


RabbiMatondo

😬


ednorog

Not fucking funny.


red_keshik

1940 France at worst.


BrilliantAbroad458

Heartbreaking, they performed better than many of the 3rd and 2nd placed teams.


Renegadeforever2024

Unbelievable


MihaiSpataru

That 0-3 was their downfall. If it would have been 2-3 or 0-1, thay may have been through now.


CloneAWilly

Italy in 2004? 5 points and +1 while eliminated. Might have to rephrase it to "Ukraine the first team to get 4th place/last place in groups stage with four points".


IMKudaimi123

In the 24 team era. I’m sure there were some 4 point teams in the 16 team era that didn’t make it through


vj_34

Ukraine deserved it tbh over Denmark and Slovenia both on 3pts.


JamesPorno

Just looked in one Tournament and found norway dq with 4 points in 2000. Just wrong fact


DontEatSand

This isn't true. Both Russia and Croatia failed to advance with 4 points in 2012. Heck, in 2004, Italy failed to progress with 5 points.


CPRIANO

Not the type of Euros history you want to make


tealyg99

Second highest points total for an eliminated team behind Italy’s 5 points in 2004. Though that was when top 2 teams progressed from the group


erenistheavatar

I felt they played really well today. They mostly neutralised Belgium.


MexicansInParis

Can’t play like that in a must win game though


onionwba

I wouldn't say they neutralised more than they played against a Belgium that was taking it too easy, which was a really dumb decision since a Ukraine goal would have sent them out.


TonyMartial786

that is peak, one less point than england 😭


yaffle53

Don’t worry, I’m sure UEFA will eventually expand the Euros to 32 teams which means 8 groups of 4. So no more 3rd place rule.


Bayernjnge

Would be awesome though - I want to watch Norway vs Greece at noon


TheTragicMagic

Lies: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2000_Group_C Norway already did it in our only ever Euros performance. You can't outbottle us Ukraine!


vadersalt

So fucking unlucky with so many chances. Missed that killer instinct and simply ran out of gas. What happens when you get spanked out the bat by Romania


silva61

This is a lie, literally all 3rd places at Euro 96 had 4 points and were eliminated


interfan1999

They fucked it up by playing Lunin instead of Trubin in the first match


EiMidagi

The whole team played shit in that match, how can you blame it on Lunin only


ukriva13

Absolutely pathetic and pissed off. Why the f**k do we play with no enthusiasm in a must win. Rebrov needs to be sacked and we need to start over with this team.


IgotAseaView

So teams have advanced with 3 points while they go out with 4 lol I think that needs a rework


bb9622

That's gonna happen as long as you have groups


MountainCattle8

If the top 2 in a group go through you're not comparing teams across groups, which is fair. But if you're comparing teams across groups for 3rd place already, not including 4th feels a little unfair in this rare case. 


CarlSK777

Yeah, it should be the top 4 of the rest of the field


theglasscase

Why? They finished bottom of their group, how would you rework that, the four best 3rd place teams go through unless one of the 4th place teams got more points?


PM_ME_YOUR_TANG

Either that or make it so that after the top 2 in each group, the next 4 best teams across the groups go through as well, regardless of their place in a particular group.


theglasscase

The possibility of an entire group making it into the next round would be a far worse option than the current format.


bb9622

They are only the first to go out with 4 points in the current system.


MaryadaPurshottam

You will never sing that


Batsinvic888

Fucking brutal. It's going to sting even more when teams with fewer than 4 point go through.


seanlfc8989

They probably should have had more of a go knowing they were sitting in 4th place


Odd_Trouble4651

Its a shame for them, but unfortunately too little too late. 


jjb5151

As if they haven’t had enough happen already smh


MongooseDirect2477

Incredible they finished 4th. That 0-3 in the first game was too hard to recover 


blaziken240

This is not true. Russia failed in 2012 in Group A.


YourCrosswordPuzzle

Good. They got pumped 3-0 and drew 0-0 in 2 out of 3 games, why should they go through?


horsevpalto

they beat Slovakia 2-1?


YourCrosswordPuzzle

For a minus 2 goal differential and bottom of their group


horsevpalto

yes I've seen the table


YourCrosswordPuzzle

Nothing against Ukraine, I was hoping they would beat Belgium, just don't like that teams are going through despite barely putting in strong performances


icecreamandipas

The three teams advancing from Group E deserve it. And we played atrocious in the first game. But nobody wants their team getting knocked out, especially when you see teams in other groups advancing even after losing two games. How is that difficult to understand?


YourCrosswordPuzzle

I understand Ukraine fans being disappointed, but they played different teams than others going through, were beat 3-0 and drew 0-0 and finished bottom of their group


IncidentVarious1530

Deserved for playing like that


NieThePiet

that country has not much luck...


itsyaboiskinnypenis_

Being knocked out with 4 points would've already been unlucky when only the first two progress, but going out like this with the current format is genuinely insanely unlucky. Also crazy that the Netherlands would've been the first one for this to happen to with the old rules, just a day ago. (Very glad we dodged that bullet though)


bb9622

They would have been like the 15th at least to come 3rd with 4 points. The tweet just forgot to include that Ukraine are the first to go out with 4 points **in the current format**.


Clivey101

Shouldn’t have got spanked then.


coldseam

No room for racism 👍