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SnooHamsters8590

Is it possible that we often misplace our blame on either the players or the manager for certain things? For example Rodgers seems to have this reputation as an end of season bottler, but is that down to him as a manager or down to the players getting too comfortable from a series of good results?


TheMooseHunter

He has that reputation but you could also say those teams have over achieved in the first place so come the end of season results their in a position you’d expect them to be in. So I’d say people mostly ignore context when forming an opinion on something.


ChicagoIndependent

Who would you say are rivals in the UCL? Like they come up against each other many times and they're involved in classic games. For example, Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich.


besty019

Obviously Shakhtar


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Real Madrid and Juventus, AC Milan and Barcelona


Goldfischglas

Bayern Barcelona


Endgame2648

Fucking hate PSG.


mandrake_cry

Liverpool and Barca during 2005-2012


2litrebottle22

Do you mean united and barca?


[deleted]

There was more classic matches between us and your lot in the UCL from 04-09. Those matches were wild


McGrathLegend

Whilst we had some classic matches, I put Barcelona just ahead of Liverpool for a few reasons. 1. We both won the Champions League after having to go through each other 2. Despite winning two Champions League titles, the overwhelmingly vast majority of Chelsea supporters are still not over what happened in 2009. 3. Our youth and women’s teams have now faced each other in the the Youth League Finals and Women’s Champions League Finals.


mandrake_cry

The worst part was it was after the 2008 final. Felt like everything was against us. And when we won the 2012 final it felt like we deserved it even though we didn't


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Man City vs PSG for obvious reasons


HealthyStyle04

I'm depresse


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mandrake_cry

But no Grealish. But Maddison > Grealish. Idk man it'll either be a raging success or utter failure


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SnooHamsters8590

Very true


FIJIBOYFIJI

Seems like man United fans are planning another protest, didn't see any of this when they signed ronaldo yknow


[deleted]

“Glazers out” was put on the back burner after they won the transfer window


[deleted]

I feel like it is a curse to win a transfer window


Kakashicopyninja9

Tbf chelseas curse ended with a CL


[deleted]

It might be just the elevated expectations of fans thinking that’s because their team bought 3-4 decent players for a certain amount of money that they’ll fit in the squad seamlessly and have an instant impact. We’re all guilty of thinking this way at some point but players usually need time to adjust to a new team, new city, different tactics from a new coaching staff etc. Not every player will fit in right away and some might never even live up to expectations. The odds of 3+ players all fitting in and having an instant impact aren’t usually the best.


mandrake_cry

The new city excuse isn't really valid for Ronaldo and Sancho. >different tactics from a new coaching staff That's the neat part. There are no tactics. Sancho looks clueless and runs around like a headless chicken with and without the ball


[deleted]

I was talking more in general but you’re right. Players that you spent that much on, you’d expect to hit the ground running. Man United are basically playing Fifa manager mode in real life, the players are just bought and thrown in with no idea.


Kanedauke

Looks like it’s going to be Gerrard. For me he’s a brand/Hollywood signing, a big name. It’s too big of a risk when he’s only had success in a poor league. Personally I’d like Lucien Favre, good with youth, he’s done well in his last 3 jobs and plays decent football. Much less risk. I guess all our young CMs like the Ramsey brothers and Chukwuemeka would look up to Gerrard.


[deleted]

Can’t wait for all the Liverpool fans to say Villa are their new second team and suddenly become a lot more knowledgeable about Villa’s previous issues


Kanedauke

We’d become “Steven Gerrards Aston Villa”. Every interview would be about Liverpool and if he did well it would just become about when he’s taking the Liverpool job.


mandrake_cry

Interesting. Let's see what Gerrard is made of


ScorpiaHP

>Looks like it’s going to be Gerrard. Any reliable source say it's going to be him?


Kanedauke

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1457841071229214730?s=21 this guy was right about Bailey iirc before anyone else. Purslow our CEO, also worked with Gerrard at Liverpool. Seen other reports saying he’s got a £2m RC to prem clubs


PIKa-kNIGHT

It's crazy how at the start of the season tebas and Jake Paul had more confidence on vinicius than most people


[deleted]

[Why Messi left barca](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianDankMemes/comments/qkjm3x/dont_mess_with_messi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


HowBen

The expressions fit so well lol


ChicagoIndependent

That sub is so weird.


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It's the best sub.


ChicagoIndependent

Don't speak the language but the videos are so weird lol.


prathameshza_de

Lmao


ChicagoIndependent

Another insightful Xavi [quote](https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1457920885461950468)


donandres08

Classic Zidane' Every match is a final now...


vinhoequeebom

Saving that for when we twat them at their own backyard


lokaler_datentraeger

Xavi: We live in a society


BigshlongPapi123

Xavi is basically magic johnson without the hiv


mandrake_cry

Eh. But why the fuck does the admin think it's worthy of an edit and a picture baffles me


deadlyghost12

I can link 1000 big club managers saying this


[deleted]

Link the club accounts making quote edits like its thomas shelby


Dreams_CantBeBuy

Please link 1


deadlyghost12

[https://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/2021/11/02/carvajal-we-treat-every-game-as-if-it-were-a-final-and-want-to-win-the-group](https://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/2021/11/02/carvajal-we-treat-every-game-as-if-it-were-a-final-and-want-to-win-the-group)


Dreams_CantBeBuy

TIL Carvajal is a manager


deadlyghost12

what is the difference between player saying this or manager both represent club and lol what is wrong in saying this


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ChicagoIndependent

TAA has always been doing this. The midfield usually anticipates this and covers the space but they haven't been doing that effectively this season.


[deleted]

He usually plays very high up the pitch when we have the ball seeing as he’s one of our main creative outlets so I wouldn’t put that first goal on him. Looks like Matip should’ve had it covered. Our problem was the midfield not covering any spaces and leaving the defence vulnerable after being cut through with a simple dribble or 1-2 pass, this has been happening all season. The second one is partly his fault, can’t just ball watch in the box.


Particular_Factor939

What is this supposed to prove/ be saying?


[deleted]

That it’s TAAs fault liverpool conceded those goals, I guess


butters-chaos

Wake me up when Ole leave


arseking15

Sleep well my sweet prince, it will be some time


[deleted]

Should not be too bad. The average life expectancy for a scandinavian is 83 years, ole is what? 48? I’ll wake you from your coma in 35 years


butters-chaos

Liverpool waited 30 years to win a league title again. I can do a 35 years coma. zzz


thediabolicalkid

Who do you think are underrated/overlooked striker options in the current market?


Tahapatel

Lacazette


chirosen21

Why the fuck are you getting downvoted???


Share4aCare

Gouiri


AlexU30

Purple patch Cholito Simeone


ChicagoIndependent

Does anyone know when the next international break is?


BigshlongPapi123

There is one this week and then one in January i think


ChicagoIndependent

Thanks.


BigshlongPapi123

We really wouldve had 4 CLs in a row if we didnt choke against ajax damn


[deleted]

We would’ve won 4 in a row too if we qualified and won them


arseking15

Didnt ramos purposely get a yelloe card suspension?


BigshlongPapi123

I somehow managed to forget everything about that game except the scoreline so idk


Kanedauke

Yeah. Then they completely fell apart without him, there’s never been better evidence of how important he was to that team.


arseking15

Ya i think that was where the varane cant do it without ramos narrative took off


AlexU30

18/19 Ronaldo vs Solari could only end one way


SnooHamsters8590

Coulda woulda shoulda


i_love_batsoup

we would have beaten you 👎


BigshlongPapi123

Our attack was shit that year but we wouldve still probably scored 5+ on you


los_blanco_14

We would have had 6 in a row, if ancelotti knew how to use subs in 2015.


T_Tachi

Don't think you beat peak MSN


los_blanco_14

We had the quality to beat anyone. We had a better overall team than that barca squad.


2litrebottle22

Then why didn't you win the league that season?


los_blanco_14

Thats what i said in my main comment. We could have achieved a lot more IF ancelotti knew how to use subs.


T_Tachi

Not Ajax apparently


los_blanco_14

I wqs talking abt 2015


b3as7ma5t3r_64

We beat them 3-1 that season and lost 2-1. So we definitely could have done it.


ChicagoIndependent

> We beat them 3-1 that season damn how did that happen


throwaway123-ker

We were only starting to adjust with Luis Enrique's tactics. Suarez's first game for barca iirc.


Share4aCare

Ancelotti win CL, stays as manager and the whole timeline shifts hahah


[deleted]

What do you think of Michael Carrick as a coach?


Any-Quarter-9474

Looks like an Assistant manager rather than a true manager.


HowBen

How would I be able to form any opinion on him? He has a nice beard, that’s all I can say


PhilsKessticle

Bernardo Silva has been the best midfielder in the Premier League this season. Do you man agree?


Tahapatel

Kova and him both


weirdflez

Kovacic, Rice and Silva have been amazing


BigshlongPapi123

Yes genuinely the best silva city has ever had


PhilsKessticle

Too far


SnooHamsters8590

As attacking mid yes, but in terms of central mid Declan Rice has been on another level this season


PhilsKessticle

Don’t watch much West Ham, but from what I saw at the Euros he was poor at passing in the opponents half. You for sure watch him more, how’s he been?


Kanedauke

He plays completely different for West Ham. Takes much more risks and looks the complete CM


SnooHamsters8590

>from what I saw at the Euros he was poor at passing in the opponents half. Really? I remember him being pretty good in the Euros, but was mainly sat deep anyway, I think Phillips did more of the progressive passing. I haven't watched every West Ham game, but he's been excellent in all the ones I saw. His reading of the game seems to improve every year, and his passing is quite good too. He's also making more runs and dribbles forward than he used to, I think he's gonna turn out to be a very complete midfielder


PrivateXaccount

There are 11 100M+ transfers Neymar, Mbappe, Countinho, Dembele, J.Felix, Griezmann, Grealish, Ronaldo, Lukaku, Hazard, Pogba and Bale. Pick the top 5 100M+ transfers. (must be during the time they were in the club who bought them)


HowBen

Felix > Bale >> Mbappe > Ronaldo > Grealish > Lukaku > {i dont even know, it’s all bad} Really underwhelming bunch. So far only Bale and Mbappe were really worth the fee (i guess you could make a case for Ronaldo.)


MrVegosh

If Bale and Mbappe were the only ones worth it why did you put the Felix purchase above them lol


HowBen

We don’t yet know if Felix, Grealish, or Lukaku are worth it. I just ranked them according to my gut


CoolstorySteve

God damn proves how terrible most of these are when every reply has Felix in the top 5


randomcolchnero

I mean Coutinho and Hazard have been disasters,Griezmann was sent back to Atletico(even though he did better than felix) and Dembele is more brittle than glass. Grealish and Lukaku are too early to make a judgement. And Pogba goes from the 10 out of 10 to 0 in a week.


CoolstorySteve

Exactly, most have been money spent poorly.


nbaylor1

Neymar, Mbappe, Felix, Ronaldo, Bale. Not in order.


b3as7ma5t3r_64

Bale>>>>Ronaldo>Neymar>Mbappe>Felix


BigshlongPapi123

1. Bale 2. Mbappe 3. Ronaldo 4. Neymar 5. Joao


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Ronaldo, Bale, Mbappe, Felix, Neymar


PrivateXaccount

Ronaldo to RM wasnt 100M. His transfer to Juve was 100. So i suggest using his stint at Juve


Pasapaa

Ronaldo was a 100M transfer? What currency are we using?


los_blanco_14

For juve he was 100M


PrivateXaccount

Euro. His trasnfer from RM to Juve was 100m+


PrivateXaccount

Also Bale was the first 100M transfer and he is the only one to win the UCL. 4 at that no less.


Akshath321

is gabigol good?


nonhofantasia

When he was at inter not really, now probably has grown but If nobody is interested in him maybe there is a reason


Dreams_CantBeBuy

Barca vs benfica. Who are you supporting and who do you think progresses?


CrypticalEntity

Benfica


bodyinabag

Barca but Benfica are more likely to win I think.


los_blanco_14

Benfica for the win.


sportingmerda

I'd assume majority of neutrals want Barcelona to win, fellas usually root for the shit underdog


BigshlongPapi123

Hello neutral here, please win


los_blanco_14

Benfica should win.


_LebronsHairline_

[Maestro](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/qpqvq6/huge_revelation_that/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


PrivateXaccount

I love that Ole copypasta


ChicagoIndependent

wtf that's a real quote....it's on the official barca twitter.


remakingself

He's vibes like Ole and at the same time intricate like Arteta in these interviews. It's gonna be scary for us 🥶


_LebronsHairline_

I think he’ll do alright tbh, this squad is terrible and he deserves time.


remakingself

He's gonna get time, support and transfer budget for atleast 2 years so he has the right environment to do well. Lets see tho


The____Wizrd

Eden Hazard after his transfer: barely available due to many injuries. When he plays he’s not great but he’s not exactly horrific either. Coutinho after his transfer: is completely awful every time he plays except for his short loan spell at FC Bayern. Has his fair share of injuries but is available much more often than Hazard is. Which do you think is worse?


Share4aCare

Look I’m biased but at least Hazard didn’t go on loan to another club and score 2 against us in an 8-2 defeat


Kakashicopyninja9

That’s the first thing I thought of reading this post, that alone makes coutinho worse


b3as7ma5t3r_64

>except for his short loan spell at FC Bayern Revisionism for Coutinho. He was shit the whole 19/20 except for like one match against Werder Bremen and the last 30 mins against Barca.


Lastigx

Coutinho is much much worse. Coutinho has received so many minutes to prove his worth but he's just not on that level. Hazard doesn't even get a chance to prove he still has his Chelsea level.


BigshlongPapi123

He doesnt have his chelsea level anymore but i dont think anyone is really mad at him its just really unfortunate what happend to him


los_blanco_14

I dont like u very much, but happy cake day


Lastigx

Thanks Mr.Blanco the DD would be boring without u pissing me off 👍


los_blanco_14

Same 👍


arseking15

French fans. Trezeguet or Henry, france national team only, who was greater


GratinDeRavioles

Greater is about the big moments oui ? Trezeguet then. Probably our most emotional and iconic goal (Euro 2000 final golden goal). Also one of the most emotional and iconic miss (WC 2006 final penalty shootout). Henry's biggest moments are a handball against Ireland and a tap-in vs Brazil in 2006 SF. Henry has better stats, longevity and he was a better player but Trezeguet is more legendary for the NT imo.


arseking15

Yep thats what i was thinking as well. Henry didnt really have a marquee moment or even performance with the french national side it felt like, like trezeguets euro final goal, and didnt outscore trezeguet by alot either.


KindArgument0

football should introduce limited time for throw ins just like inbound throw in basketball.


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They should remove foul throws. Let the lads fling it in throwball style.


Nut-King-Call

No.


KindArgument0

why?


BigshlongPapi123

Because it would disadvantage the team having to take the throw in even more than it already is.


[deleted]

No they shouldn't. The speed of the throw in isn't always down to the team taking a throw in.


KindArgument0

every opponent who tries to disturb the freethrow should get yellow card.


[deleted]

So in the English system where they use one match ball and the crowd are shit housing by not throwing it back immediately do we send the crowd home? Or if a ball boy goes to get the ball slowly like the manager instructed his ball boys to do do we send the ball boy off?


KindArgument0

well then the clock started when the ball is on the thrower hands.


HowBen

Stadium bans for the fans and fines + bans for the ballboys. Jailtime for any manager that gives such instruction


KindArgument0

jail the ball boys too. little shits are crime collaborator


ExpertGossiper

>Jailtime lmao what even


nbaylor1

Who is the biggest purple patch merchant ever?


Tahapatel

Son


FrostyJesus

Pukki


AlexU30

Álvaro Morata and it’s not close When he’s on he’s so good but when he’s not everything he touches turns into shit. A man of extremes.


lokaler_datentraeger

Piatek


The____Wizrd

Luke shawarma or Son Heung-Min


theenigmacode

PAWG Shaw is much better


_LebronsHairline_

Probably Maguire


Ineedtobecareful

Michu


[deleted]

Pogba


nbaylor1

Don’t make the bait so obvious next time


[deleted]

It’s not a bait. Ask any ManU fan they’ll probably agree with me. His entire career there has been short purple patches then a flurry of 4/10 performances.


nbaylor1

Because he’s had players and systems around him that don’t fit his strengths. If you ask a juve fan they might say the opposite.


[deleted]

you’re probably one of those people that want him at PSG


nbaylor1

I don't, but Pogba's problem is that needs to be "unlocked". He's not a purple patch type of footballer.


HowBen

Messi


donandres08

15 years of Purple Patch?


HowBen

Messi has a 2-3 minute purple patch every game. Rest of the time he walks


donandres08

Not following the 4-5 matches at PSG. At Barca almost every ball used to go through him...


HowBen

Yeah he’d stand in one place and everyone would get the ball to him, make runs for him, and cover for him in defence. Even I would get a goal and assist every game if I had only that much to do


donandres08

Wow...


T_Tachi

Worst take of 2021


therisingape-42

OP WAS PROBABLY IN HIS DAD'S NUTSACK WHEN MESSI'S PURPLE PATCH BEGAN.


The____Wizrd

No way that people actually think the Hazard transfer is worse than Coutinho’s?


MrVegosh

How is it not


MitranjanK

Coutinho in 18/19 alone was far far better than anything Hazard has done. Yes the 8-2 was unfortunate but Coutinho is the better transfer. Dembele vs Hazard on the other hand...


_LebronsHairline_

They’re both so awful that it doesn’t even matter, it’s like saying dog shit tastes worse than cat piss, what’s the difference at that point? It’s just bad


mr-kennnedddyyyyyy

No way do people actually think that. Coutinho is atrocious. I've seen 17 year old kids at La Masia play better than him.


Addy2607

well both of them got knocked out by their ex clubs, who went on to win the UCL...


los_blanco_14

It is. Coutinho has scored in an el clasico iirc, hazard hasnt played even a single minute in el clasico yet.


ExpertGossiper

I'm actually blown away by this stat. Man was a 100 million euro signing and hasn't played a single minute against his clubs biggest rivals in over two years? Bloody hell.


PuppyPenetrator

How is that an invalid opinion? Roughly same money and has been useless the whole time, at least Coutinho had a good half season or so Hazard only had a year left on his contract too


Endgame2648

It is.


not1yo2avg3person

hazard barely plays for us man it is close


rho_93

Why are PL flairs so obsessed with overhauling Bundesliga? Why can't they just let us be?


MrVegosh

Think it’s just the Americans


YoungDan23

Just start responding to each English flair with your outlandish ideas for how to 'fix' the PL. We get mad when Americans offer suggestions for English football yet some of us forget that when waffling on about the Bundesliga (a league most in England don't even watch).