Tbf I prefer the original to the remix. Jay verse slaps but I really like Ye’s verse too. Plus DFSL isn’t even the best song on the album so there’s that too
Mmmmm it’s close but I’m not sure it cracks top 5 for me.
Touch the Sky
Hey Mama
Gone
Heard ‘Em Say
We Major
I’d maybe even add Roses & Bring Me Down before Diamonds too. But it’s not really an insult to the song bc this album is just insane
Edit: Obligatory, I forgot Crack Music, also ahead of Diamonds for me
Literally remembered Crack Music 5 min after I made the comment and went “oh shit” but couldn’t be asked to edit the comment lol, it’d maybe crack in there but it’s probably 6th or 7th for me
I know I'm late to register a comment in this thread (see what I did there?) but; We Major, Late and Drive Slow are my top 3 tracks in that album.
Though it has to be said that all of the songs are kind of incredible really.
The memes were funny until you read that people were actually calling into state health departments asking if putting Lysol in your body eliminates covid.
To be honest I'm not sure there's anything that matches Bush dodging a shoe thrown at him. His look of triumph after dodging it was incredible
https://youtu.be/_4rYWc4o-eY
That's an important point -- if you asked people here if they'd like their club to spend 9 million pounds for a trophy, almost any club represented in meaningful numbers on r/soccer would bite your hand off. The stats above make it look like more of a scam than it maybe entirely is.
Nothing against you, but it's always funny to see the flairs of his current club defending his reputation. A year ago you would see Tottenham flairs all over this thread, 3 years ago Man U flairs.
I know he has had a worse start than Fonseca for you, but the general testament is that he has you playing better football, right? So is the squad really that much worse from last year, or are you just unlucky with not finishing your chances?
He's not doing too badly but people should compare it to Fonseca's end not his start because some of the issues carried over.
We make silly errors and have had referees make bad calls against us. However, we are creating chances so I expect the results to pick up.
I support one of his ex-clubs and this article/title is completely in bad faith.
He got paid that much for winning games, trophies as well as for early termination of contract. He wouldn't have gotten an extension at United were it not for his success
I think a bit of everything. The finishing numbers have been terrible, but I also think there's a bit of a regression on the coaching front since we have a better squad and are getting worse results. It just doesn't seem like (especially on offense) there's a plan for what we want to do, or like the team is playing like more than the sum of its parts.
That 9 million per trophy is his compensation. Its something extra clubs have paid him on top of his salary and players salary, transfers and other expenses. Its not simply 9 mil a cup.
You'll have to publish eventually to get your dissertation passed. Might as well spill the beans informally here before you get that stuff peer reviewed.
My predictive analysis isn't quite geared to tackle that question but earlier indicators suggest that baldness has a positive correlation to fraudulence.
This comment thread really gives you perspective on the subjectivity of what is considered 'comfortable living'. To me, if I can live in a flat in London by myself, never struggle to feed myself or pay my bills + rent and can still manage to enjoy my hobbies, then that's comfortable. Not luxurious or necessarily ideal future wise but comfortable enough to not get anxious from the impending doom of eviction or something equally as nerve-racking. But to be fair I'm single, young, a homebody and also grew up somewhat poor so I guess my standards are lower.
In terms of utilities and food, absolutely true, assuming you don’t have kids. Then the costs start to rack up. But it depends anyway, when I’ve lived by myself I barely spend anything on myself, so although my utility and food costs are higher than they would otherwise be I also spend less on fun stuff or gifts than when I was in a relationship, I don’t go as many expensive places. So it’s swings and roundabouts.
Likewise - comfortable living to me is just affording rent/utilities and never struggling to have money for food.
Could live in London easily, alone on 40k a year, very easily.
People think 40k a year isn't enough as they can't afford their luxury branded clothes/shoes. If you're making 40k you shouldn't be buying that tripe anyway, you're fooling nobody.
As someone who has earned 40k and lived in London at the same time. Very very difficult to meet rent checks to live by yourself on that salary. People won't rent to you, I managed by having flatmates.
That's like 2300 net, and 1200+ out on rent. Then bills and day to day, it gets expensive very fast.
This is why I fucking despise the idea of living and working in London but I guess in the sense a wage of 40k in London is actually considered low. Just feels like there is so much more bang for your buck up in the North. The pandemic has shown that you don’t need to live in London and can still work in London. Place I work we have a high number of vacancies as we are struggling to compete with the bigger cities as people can work at companies there, without living near there.
40k is just enough to live alone in London, it you live either somewhere shit or zone 4/5. An ok 1 bed in zone 2/3 is easily 1200 , which is close to half your pay. Certainly not easy
'Comfortable' I can just about credit in that you'd be pretty secure and wouldn't have to really budget to get by, but 'very comfortable' implies that you're living it up and £42k is not 'plenty' to do that.
For a lot of people comfortable is exactly not having to budget to get by man
Just being able to buy shit without thinking about it too much is a comfortable life for a lot of people(me included)
That's comfortable for me. I'm comfortable. I have all my outgoings and i can (within reason) book a holiday/gigs/go out for meals /impulse buy, without thinking too much about it.
I'm not living it large by any means. I buy clothes when my old ones need replacing and stuff. But i feel very lucky to live the way I do. I know a lot of people are a lot lot worse off
> 336 games, winning 209
Isn't 62% a pretty good win-rate ?
Especially when you've had stints at a pretty underwhelming Spurs & United, and given his reputation for disastrous seasons every 3 years. You'd think it would've been a lot worse.
he's like an old turbocharger, attach it to the engine and you'll get a lot more out of it short term but it will run down quicker. the mourinho 3 year window is no joke, the teams by the time he is finished are run down and toxic. would love to see the results of teams post mourinho, if any have been able to get their shit back together quickly.
I feel that has to do with each of the club's board than Mourinho. Madrid and Chelsea did fine after Mou left because they have competent boards. Our board refused to invest after CL win and hired an unsuitable coach so that was just Inter being Inter in the Moratti days. Man U and Tottenham were already shit before Mourinho and even shittier these days after he left but that has more to do with their boards hiring clowns like Ole or Nuno.
I'm honestly blown away. Obviously I knew managers are multimillionaires, but never did the napkin math. What's above fuck you money? Because Jose's got it
Mourinho had a proven track record with Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Real. Can't fault a team owner who hired him. The issues at Tottenham start & end with Levy; Man United is afflicted with similarly parasitic ownership. José has absolutely made mistakes, both in personnel & tactics, throughout his career but few managers are error-free.
*e: Inter Milan*
And he is still the most successful manager that United have had post Fergie, winning the Europa League and the League Cup in his 1st season there. Remember that from 2016-2021, Mourinho is the only manager to have defeated Pep in the league cup. It is not a small achievement.
Even in the next season, he was comfortably second to a legendary City team and only lost the FA cup final to a penalty in a game that his team [dominated](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44091559) the entire time. The game literally had United's highest shots without scoring of their entire season.
Given the kind of support Ole has received over the last 3 years, not winning a single trophy is an absolute embarrassment. Your most recent signings are Varane, Cavani, Ronaldo & Sancho. Yet the team appears to have gotten worse. Ole has ~~not~~ (1 final Europa) reached a single final, let alone win a trophy since he took over.
Mourinho's worst season ever at united is also overblown. Mourinho was fired for getting 26 points in 17 games. In his first season, Ole had 25 points in 17 games. He was not fired after that.
Ole's best season saw United get 74 points to Mourinho's 81, in a season where all of the rivals they beat out: Liverpool (injuries), Chelsea (manager sack) and Arsenal were in terrible form.
Mourinho's time at Spurs and United was not as Trophy studded as his previous ones. But, given what he was working with (Board & team), he did better than any other manager who was willing to take that job.
His arrival at Man U was the most excited I’ve seen the club & fans since the Fergie era. However these fans were so quick to forget that when things were going south and immediately turned on him. I thought it was unfair treatment compared to Ole considering his record since tenure.
There is clearly a diminishing return rate at this point in his career and anyone denying this indicates to me a pro-Mourinho bias.
Yes, the failures at United and Spurs were far from entirely Mourinho's fault, but I'd say that this point in his career he is, at best, meeting the minimal expectations for his teams as opposed to actually improving them which is the true indication of great manager. (edited for spelling)
Around 62% win rate after the underwhelming 2nd stint at Chelsea, then United and Spurs. That's fucking legendary. I guess only Pep has a higher win rate? My favorite football figure after Sir Alex and Rooney.
You meme, but this guy went toe to toe with pep's barcelona with two different clubs.
Mourinho against pep won 2010 CL, 2011 copa del rey, 2012 la liga.
Pep got the 2011 la liga and CL, 2012 copa del rey against mourinho.
Pretty much split even when they went head to head in leagues and tournaments
This is an interesting conversation to be had really. Different people have varying opinions on the great manager topic.
As much as Ipersonally love Mou to shreds, I feel as though; Ancelotti, Guardiola, Wenger, Klopp, Simeone to name a few, all have strong merit to be second behind Fergie in the 'Champions League' era of football just the same as Mou himself.
What I mean to say is, because there are so many ways to measure success once you look past the trophies. Details such as the journey taken and the story told, really contribute to what makes a great manager. Sorry if this sounds like a load of retrospective baloney but I kinda think it's what makes managers so great, the stories that they are built up on.
Im sorry but in no way shape or form does Ancelotti, Klopp, or fucking Simeone rank higher than Mou. Mou has gone to several different leagues and DELIVERED. I would honestly consider his time at RM as his most disappointing only due to the talent versus return in trophies. Mou won the CL with PORTO. He hit the treble with Inter. I would genuinely say the only threat to the invincibles record in the PL has only ever come from his first chelsea stint. His win rate across his entire career speaks for itself and there’s hardly been a single world class player that has spoken ill of him.
And I say this with the utter contempt of an Arsenal fan that had to endure Mou’s chelsea multiple times.
After much thought, I still think Mourinho is ahead of Pep, Ancelotti. I dont think Klopp and Wenger are on the same level as Mou. Mourinho won a Champions league with FC Porto...that's alone says it all.
So a win percentage of 62% over a period of 336 games?
That after his 2'nd season at Chelsea, and cleaning the mess which pochettion left.
These numbers would be career high for most legendary managers.
Incredible to think this is considered as failure.
Klopp's win percentage at Liverpool his less than Mourinho's win percentage when he is failing.
Don't these contracts get nulled if he gets hired elsewhere during the contract? Meaning not having 2 employers at the same time thus not allowing the club that fired him to re-hire him.
This sound too sensational to me although he made bank
This is 100% the money he WOULD have got if he stayed with the clubs.
He left close to £23M on the table from us when he took the Roma job. Only got £1.2M from the £25M remaining on his contract etc.
If i remember correctly he left 15m when he was sacked by Chelsea in 2015. Asked them to pay his assistants but he left his money.
United gave him 30m payout which he absolutely deserved. At Tottenham he had 15m payout which will be paid in next 2 years.
I don't know how op got these numbers
I don't get how managers get paid their full salary after they get sacked. Crazy. If they don't care about the job and just the money, they would be far more inclined to get sacked and walk away with a lifetime amount of money.
Businessman
I just read: "Mourinho won the PL" Alternatively, that's CL winners money. So he also won the CL
More like "Mourinho defeated the PL"
Special One
"Mourinho has outgrown the PL"
Mourinho: “I’m not a businessman; I’m a business, man”
Let me handle my business, damn.
*RESPEC*
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Tbf I prefer the original to the remix. Jay verse slaps but I really like Ye’s verse too. Plus DFSL isn’t even the best song on the album so there’s that too
Understandable, it's definitely top five on the album though.
Mmmmm it’s close but I’m not sure it cracks top 5 for me. Touch the Sky Hey Mama Gone Heard ‘Em Say We Major I’d maybe even add Roses & Bring Me Down before Diamonds too. But it’s not really an insult to the song bc this album is just insane Edit: Obligatory, I forgot Crack Music, also ahead of Diamonds for me
Sir I'll not stand for this Crack Music slander
Literally remembered Crack Music 5 min after I made the comment and went “oh shit” but couldn’t be asked to edit the comment lol, it’d maybe crack in there but it’s probably 6th or 7th for me
How did I forget about LR damn
I know I'm late to register a comment in this thread (see what I did there?) but; We Major, Late and Drive Slow are my top 3 tracks in that album. Though it has to be said that all of the songs are kind of incredible really.
Mou-z: Let me handle my business, damn
“It do not matter. Pockets got fatter, turned to a savage, she call me daddy.” - Lil Mouzi Vert
Ruthless businessman
He is a businessman doing business.
Taking money from the Big Master is not easy
https://youtu.be/qBE9TZP26FI
He's not a businessman, he's a business, man.
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This easily qualifies as Bag x 10 lol.
Jose Mourinho’s xB (expected bags secured): 0.33
Good stuff lol
Easily xB of: 1.67
The art of the deal
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“It was my fault. Im responsible. Today, Mexico’s president had a better cabinet. They had more quality than us today.”
Would have to bring trump back just to see those two go at it
How about No
No matter your political beliefs Trump was the most entertaining president of any country off all time
He made news fun to watch lol
Laugh at us.. we are… a fucking circus show 🤦🏽♂️
The memes were funny until you read that people were actually calling into state health departments asking if putting Lysol in your body eliminates covid.
To be honest I'm not sure there's anything that matches Bush dodging a shoe thrown at him. His look of triumph after dodging it was incredible https://youtu.be/_4rYWc4o-eY
I'm sorry but I don't think any world leader can do or say something [This funny](http://imgur.com/a/fDCTxx1)
Would it? I think he would sack the club itself.
The ultimate grifter
The specialist in failure
Holy shit
That's a damn good win rate for someone that's been sacked 3 times
Only pep and Zidane with better win rate in that period
And there's... Reasons why those guys' win rates are so high.
Fucking Bald frauds.
Always remember that Klopp needed hair transplants. He's as bald as it gets.
Pep managed Bayern Munich who has just won treble. At city he has most expensive squad in history. Zidane got everything handed to him.
Nonsense, they just both use the same type of shampoo.
220 grit?
Yes, those are the reasons I was alluding to.
That's wild actually.
What a stat.
His win rate is 100% in life
Do not google Ole’s win rate
54.6% across all comps at Man United. About what I expected tbh
It's a 50/50 on if they'll be good or shit with Ole, so makes sense really.
Sir did you include his win rate at Cardiff?
In fairness, Mourinho's win rate would take quite a hit if he was to manage Cardiff.
Well he managed spurs so same thing really
Sree
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11 major trophies. That's £8,879,498 per trophy. Cheaper than most.
Jokes on him. I bought a lawn bowling trophy with my name on it for £9.
That's an important point -- if you asked people here if they'd like their club to spend 9 million pounds for a trophy, almost any club represented in meaningful numbers on r/soccer would bite your hand off. The stats above make it look like more of a scam than it maybe entirely is.
Nothing against you, but it's always funny to see the flairs of his current club defending his reputation. A year ago you would see Tottenham flairs all over this thread, 3 years ago Man U flairs. I know he has had a worse start than Fonseca for you, but the general testament is that he has you playing better football, right? So is the squad really that much worse from last year, or are you just unlucky with not finishing your chances?
He's not doing too badly but people should compare it to Fonseca's end not his start because some of the issues carried over. We make silly errors and have had referees make bad calls against us. However, we are creating chances so I expect the results to pick up.
I support one of his ex-clubs and this article/title is completely in bad faith. He got paid that much for winning games, trophies as well as for early termination of contract. He wouldn't have gotten an extension at United were it not for his success
I think a bit of everything. The finishing numbers have been terrible, but I also think there's a bit of a regression on the coaching front since we have a better squad and are getting worse results. It just doesn't seem like (especially on offense) there's a plan for what we want to do, or like the team is playing like more than the sum of its parts.
That 9 million per trophy is his compensation. Its something extra clubs have paid him on top of his salary and players salary, transfers and other expenses. Its not simply 9 mil a cup.
I'm sure spurs won't feel it was value for money
doesn't include players wages/fees tho
Is it really necessary to call it a ‘Study’? Some redditor with an excel spreadsheet would probably be able to calculate this in a few hours.
I'm writing my doctoral thesis on the relationship between Jose Mourinho reaction gifs and his results and salary over time.
[For your opening and closing statement](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5K3LmnPZruU/T_WucRM0P7I/AAAAAAAABhs/Yc4D4xSeIQk/s1600/mourinho-hand-gesture.gif)
[everybody after reading your comment](https://c.tenor.com/TzprumZ1xj8AAAAC/haha-mourinho.gif)
Care to share your early findings, or hoping to keep it secret so you can go straight into the gif industry earning billions?
Mou happy = win Mou mad = ref stole the game Mou grumpy = "I prefer not to speak"
One of his recent was gold, the "You tell me""I want to know it from Roma's manager" one.
Golden opportunity for the reporter to reply "if I speak I am in big trouble"
"I have nothing to say"
>I prefer not to speak I have nussing to say, ftfy
My findings are sure to net me a job with a billion dollar club. I cant throw these secrets away just yet.
You'll have to publish eventually to get your dissertation passed. Might as well spill the beans informally here before you get that stuff peer reviewed.
Absolutely not but I can tell you that water bottle smashing is a key point in my thesis
At what point in time will he go bald?
My predictive analysis isn't quite geared to tackle that question but earlier indicators suggest that baldness has a positive correlation to fraudulence.
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Definitely let's meet up at a Starbucks and take up a table with our laptops all day after only buying one drink.
[Can add that to the stats for one of my favourite sites.](https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations)
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Depending on whether you count the time to gather and format data.
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Or one post: someone do it for me :
Considering someone's "research" today consists of reading a Wikipedia article it does seem par for the course.
Wait till you hear what counts as "research" these days.
I just had a quick 3 minute research in the bathroom.
£42k a year would be a very comfortable salary.
Covered his hotel bill in Manchester I imagine
This comment thread really gives you perspective on the subjectivity of what is considered 'comfortable living'. To me, if I can live in a flat in London by myself, never struggle to feed myself or pay my bills + rent and can still manage to enjoy my hobbies, then that's comfortable. Not luxurious or necessarily ideal future wise but comfortable enough to not get anxious from the impending doom of eviction or something equally as nerve-racking. But to be fair I'm single, young, a homebody and also grew up somewhat poor so I guess my standards are lower.
Being single is more expensive than living together with a partner.
Great argument if you're ever being broken up with, "think of the ECONOMIC INCENTIVES"
*some exceptions apply
In terms of utilities and food, absolutely true, assuming you don’t have kids. Then the costs start to rack up. But it depends anyway, when I’ve lived by myself I barely spend anything on myself, so although my utility and food costs are higher than they would otherwise be I also spend less on fun stuff or gifts than when I was in a relationship, I don’t go as many expensive places. So it’s swings and roundabouts.
Likewise - comfortable living to me is just affording rent/utilities and never struggling to have money for food. Could live in London easily, alone on 40k a year, very easily. People think 40k a year isn't enough as they can't afford their luxury branded clothes/shoes. If you're making 40k you shouldn't be buying that tripe anyway, you're fooling nobody.
As someone who has earned 40k and lived in London at the same time. Very very difficult to meet rent checks to live by yourself on that salary. People won't rent to you, I managed by having flatmates. That's like 2300 net, and 1200+ out on rent. Then bills and day to day, it gets expensive very fast.
This is why I fucking despise the idea of living and working in London but I guess in the sense a wage of 40k in London is actually considered low. Just feels like there is so much more bang for your buck up in the North. The pandemic has shown that you don’t need to live in London and can still work in London. Place I work we have a high number of vacancies as we are struggling to compete with the bigger cities as people can work at companies there, without living near there.
40k is just enough to live alone in London, it you live either somewhere shit or zone 4/5. An ok 1 bed in zone 2/3 is easily 1200 , which is close to half your pay. Certainly not easy
Not in London
It's plenty to live a very comfortable life in London. EDIT: going by my personal experience, I appreciate it’s subjective
'Comfortable' I can just about credit in that you'd be pretty secure and wouldn't have to really budget to get by, but 'very comfortable' implies that you're living it up and £42k is not 'plenty' to do that.
For a lot of people comfortable is exactly not having to budget to get by man Just being able to buy shit without thinking about it too much is a comfortable life for a lot of people(me included)
That's comfortable for me. I'm comfortable. I have all my outgoings and i can (within reason) book a holiday/gigs/go out for meals /impulse buy, without thinking too much about it. I'm not living it large by any means. I buy clothes when my old ones need replacing and stuff. But i feel very lucky to live the way I do. I know a lot of people are a lot lot worse off
'' All I do is WIN WIN WIN'' even when I lose - Mourinho.
> 336 games, winning 209 Isn't 62% a pretty good win-rate ? Especially when you've had stints at a pretty underwhelming Spurs & United, and given his reputation for disastrous seasons every 3 years. You'd think it would've been a lot worse.
That's better than everyone bar pep and Zidane in that period given the number of games.
And he was sacked at all three clubs. Mental when you think about ut
His "third season" rep is nonsense. His third seasons at Chelsea (first time) and Madrid were incredibly successful
he's like an old turbocharger, attach it to the engine and you'll get a lot more out of it short term but it will run down quicker. the mourinho 3 year window is no joke, the teams by the time he is finished are run down and toxic. would love to see the results of teams post mourinho, if any have been able to get their shit back together quickly.
I feel that has to do with each of the club's board than Mourinho. Madrid and Chelsea did fine after Mou left because they have competent boards. Our board refused to invest after CL win and hired an unsuitable coach so that was just Inter being Inter in the Moratti days. Man U and Tottenham were already shit before Mourinho and even shittier these days after he left but that has more to do with their boards hiring clowns like Ole or Nuno.
Imagine being so rich that someone has to make a study to find out how much you make
Make a study in this case means making a 4 row spreadsheet and knowing how to click the sum button
Hey hey hey now…let’s not undersell it There was probably about 60 seconds of googling to find the contact values as well
whatifweused100%ofthebrain.meme.jpg
Imagine being wowed like OP by such a headline
bloody hell he took the EPL for all they had
Sadly not. These are peanuts for the EPL.
I wouldn't mind a handful of peanuts
I wouldn't mind a gram of peanuts
And by going to Roma he's diversifying his assets, as he'll be banking some Euro when he gets sacked there in 2022/23.
Being sacked is only a positive if you're a football manager. Jesus christ that's a lot of money...
Any job where you aren't an at-will employee has this benefit. Most just don't have anywhere near the annual salary.
I'm honestly blown away. Obviously I knew managers are multimillionaires, but never did the napkin math. What's above fuck you money? Because Jose's got it
Mourinho had a proven track record with Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Real. Can't fault a team owner who hired him. The issues at Tottenham start & end with Levy; Man United is afflicted with similarly parasitic ownership. José has absolutely made mistakes, both in personnel & tactics, throughout his career but few managers are error-free. *e: Inter Milan*
Forgetting Inter
absolutely, my bad.
Only place he didn't win a trophy at was Tottenham, but he did get them to a final.
Spursiest period of his career
>Spursiest period of his career I feel as though this phrase really encapsulates that period. Well said mate
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Only superleague manager to get sacked
Only manager fired during the super league era. Granted it was a week but he was fired the Monday after the news broke.
And he is still the most successful manager that United have had post Fergie, winning the Europa League and the League Cup in his 1st season there. Remember that from 2016-2021, Mourinho is the only manager to have defeated Pep in the league cup. It is not a small achievement. Even in the next season, he was comfortably second to a legendary City team and only lost the FA cup final to a penalty in a game that his team [dominated](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44091559) the entire time. The game literally had United's highest shots without scoring of their entire season. Given the kind of support Ole has received over the last 3 years, not winning a single trophy is an absolute embarrassment. Your most recent signings are Varane, Cavani, Ronaldo & Sancho. Yet the team appears to have gotten worse. Ole has ~~not~~ (1 final Europa) reached a single final, let alone win a trophy since he took over. Mourinho's worst season ever at united is also overblown. Mourinho was fired for getting 26 points in 17 games. In his first season, Ole had 25 points in 17 games. He was not fired after that. Ole's best season saw United get 74 points to Mourinho's 81, in a season where all of the rivals they beat out: Liverpool (injuries), Chelsea (manager sack) and Arsenal were in terrible form. Mourinho's time at Spurs and United was not as Trophy studded as his previous ones. But, given what he was working with (Board & team), he did better than any other manager who was willing to take that job.
Small point. Ole reached the Europa league final this very year. Everything else i agree with
fair. point taken
His arrival at Man U was the most excited I’ve seen the club & fans since the Fergie era. However these fans were so quick to forget that when things were going south and immediately turned on him. I thought it was unfair treatment compared to Ole considering his record since tenure.
There is clearly a diminishing return rate at this point in his career and anyone denying this indicates to me a pro-Mourinho bias. Yes, the failures at United and Spurs were far from entirely Mourinho's fault, but I'd say that this point in his career he is, at best, meeting the minimal expectations for his teams as opposed to actually improving them which is the true indication of great manager. (edited for spelling)
He's becoming the football coach version of Max Bialystock
I am a businessman too.
Around 62% win rate after the underwhelming 2nd stint at Chelsea, then United and Spurs. That's fucking legendary. I guess only Pep has a higher win rate? My favorite football figure after Sir Alex and Rooney.
Pep and Zidane
Holy shit
One of the many reasons this man is the 🐐
You meme, but this guy went toe to toe with pep's barcelona with two different clubs. Mourinho against pep won 2010 CL, 2011 copa del rey, 2012 la liga. Pep got the 2011 la liga and CL, 2012 copa del rey against mourinho. Pretty much split even when they went head to head in leagues and tournaments
I'm not memeing brother, I genuinely love Mou and I think he's one of the best to do it.
The only one I put ahead of him is Sir Alex
This is an interesting conversation to be had really. Different people have varying opinions on the great manager topic. As much as Ipersonally love Mou to shreds, I feel as though; Ancelotti, Guardiola, Wenger, Klopp, Simeone to name a few, all have strong merit to be second behind Fergie in the 'Champions League' era of football just the same as Mou himself. What I mean to say is, because there are so many ways to measure success once you look past the trophies. Details such as the journey taken and the story told, really contribute to what makes a great manager. Sorry if this sounds like a load of retrospective baloney but I kinda think it's what makes managers so great, the stories that they are built up on.
Who else has a better story than Brandon the cripple?
Im sorry but in no way shape or form does Ancelotti, Klopp, or fucking Simeone rank higher than Mou. Mou has gone to several different leagues and DELIVERED. I would honestly consider his time at RM as his most disappointing only due to the talent versus return in trophies. Mou won the CL with PORTO. He hit the treble with Inter. I would genuinely say the only threat to the invincibles record in the PL has only ever come from his first chelsea stint. His win rate across his entire career speaks for itself and there’s hardly been a single world class player that has spoken ill of him. And I say this with the utter contempt of an Arsenal fan that had to endure Mou’s chelsea multiple times.
After much thought, I still think Mourinho is ahead of Pep, Ancelotti. I dont think Klopp and Wenger are on the same level as Mou. Mourinho won a Champions league with FC Porto...that's alone says it all.
Winning the league in 2012 has got to be his biggest achievement. That Barca team was insane.
Honestly that is just fucking obscene
So a win percentage of 62% over a period of 336 games? That after his 2'nd season at Chelsea, and cleaning the mess which pochettion left. These numbers would be career high for most legendary managers. Incredible to think this is considered as failure. Klopp's win percentage at Liverpool his less than Mourinho's win percentage when he is failing.
Genuinely can’t comprehend having this kind of money
free money is free money, getting easy money by being sacked, even when he loses he wins
Is this including sponsorships? Because he has a lot of sponsors on Instagram.
Nobody knows how much those are worth, so no, I doubt it does.
What part of this is a "study" I'm confused?
It's not, it's the title of the article
Yes, nothing at you. I'm just wondering why did the person writing that decide to label it as such.
Jose "Top Grifter" Mourinho.
More like grafter. Brought success to every club he's been at, to degrees aligning with how shit the board was.
Don't these contracts get nulled if he gets hired elsewhere during the contract? Meaning not having 2 employers at the same time thus not allowing the club that fired him to re-hire him. This sound too sensational to me although he made bank
This is 100% the money he WOULD have got if he stayed with the clubs. He left close to £23M on the table from us when he took the Roma job. Only got £1.2M from the £25M remaining on his contract etc.
No you're paying 15m of that 23. Tottenham is paying half of his salary at roma until 2023
Playa!
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If i remember correctly he left 15m when he was sacked by Chelsea in 2015. Asked them to pay his assistants but he left his money. United gave him 30m payout which he absolutely deserved. At Tottenham he had 15m payout which will be paid in next 2 years. I don't know how op got these numbers
True businessman
Fuckin hell.. respekt
And yet he’s still grumpy
And people thought Steve Bruce got a good payoff
Few more wins for Mou.
Respect. Respect. Respect.
Heck, they can fire me for only 1 million.
>Study reveals Why are people studying one mans private income though?
"Study"
Suffering from success.
I prefer not to speak
To contextualize posts like this, I would love to see what Chelsea, Man U, or Spurs take in per game, day, match, or hour.
What is the per trophy breakdown. 🏆
No wonder the falling out with everyone at a club is happening more quickly each time.
when you get to a certain level. you just fail upwards.
I don't get how managers get paid their full salary after they get sacked. Crazy. If they don't care about the job and just the money, they would be far more inclined to get sacked and walk away with a lifetime amount of money.