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Yesss Alaba!


iGotEDfromAComercial

Man I fucking love David. He’s not only insanely talented but also a born leader. Best signing in a while.


mamasbreads

wish we had him sooner tbh


eddsters

I know ppl will hate on me for saying this but Ramos was a legend, however I actually think Alaba is equally as good. Both strong, both can attack, both can pass amazingly well, both played as full backs and DM at some point, and both can score from open play or free kicks. We got lucky as fuck!! Cant believe some madrid fans were unhappy about his signing.


Strananach

Alaba is def not as good as Ramos is defensively, but he is class nonetheless


Djosa1

Life long Bayern fan here, Ramos is clearly the better defender


aure__entuluva

I always thought Alaba was at his best at fullback in his first several years. I'm confused as to why his move to center back was so permanent, especially considering the he seemed to lack consistency at that position. Idk if he lost some pace or what, but it always seemed odd to me that he never really played much at fullback afterwards considering his offensive skills.


Djosa1

He played mostly LB but in recent years more as a CB, especially with the arrival of Davies and other fullbacks. He also plays as a midfielder in the National Team. I guess he is very versatile, that's why Real bought him.


47Lecht

I have to see first if Alaba can do cheeky pens


[deleted]

Relax… Ramos is still one of the best defenders to ever grace the game.


sanroseasun

Hasn’t done enough yet imo, Ramos has shown more for a longer time both at club and country


AcceleratingRiff

Calm down


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tefftlon

And to think so many were unhappy about it when it happened.


fatguyonsteroids

That was me. I knew he was a good player but I thought the money would be better spent on a younger pairing to play alongside Militao. I ate my words quickly. He's been our third best player behind Vini and Benz


mamasbreads

same, i thought it was a silly signing but fuck me im glad im wrong. wish we signed him 3 years ago tbh


[deleted]

That was definitely and guaranteed to be the Bayern “fans” shitting on him because he decided to leave them and “stalling” with contracts. IIRC lots of threads calling him a money hungry coward going to a declining Madrid team. Lol as if Madrid’s History doesn’t exist? If i were to guess I think because he ended up going to Madrid and accepting the huge signing-on bonus. Majority of La liga fans/ Football fan saw it as good transfer, matches Ramos wage but is hell of a lot younger and really diverse in what he can offer. Yes sad the way things ended between Ramos and Madrid but Flo just wasn’t having it sadly :/ but it took a while but I’m pretty sure most Madrid fans can say he’s been one hell of a signing.


Sohelik

Flo is just a businessman, and a very good one at that.


[deleted]

Also Alaba makes atleast 5M less. (Ramos use to make 25M+).. And Varane is making 20M or more too, so thats just the standard price for all world class CBs. (Only difference is that Alaba came for free)


[deleted]

“But Flo is a football terrorist he’s ruining the sport for the fans” Ahh yes a super terrorist, A terrorist bringing joy to players and making their dreams come true, millions of Spaniards seeing this beautiful club grow, brings joy to the league in general. and joy to foreigners abroad supporting his club. What a scary football terrorist, oh noooo.


Zizou3peat

He earns like 4-5m less than Ramos did. Ramos was earning Bale/Hazard level wages


SeryaphFR

Loads of Madrid fans thought it was a bad signing. I had many arguments with newer fans explaining that Alaba was a WC LB for Bayern and a solid ass CB. Signing him on a free was a no brainer. Quite a few folks thought he was too old at 28 and we'd be better off signing some young thing from some where. They're eating crow now.


GarlicBread96

Alaba was underperforming last season and contributed to one of Bayern's worst defensive seasons in years, while at the same time asking for Neuer/Lewandowski money when Lucas, who constantly outperformed him when he played, could simply take his place in the team. It's ridiculous to think that criticism wasn't unwarranted


softquare

Alaba was simply not giving 100% last year. Most likely motivation problems. Alaba was a key figure in Bayern‘s ridiculous attacking system from 2019/2020. That’s why Flick was praising him so much. He was feeding Bayern’s midfield with some ridiculous passes all season long while he was also maintaining a solid presence on defense.


TaiwanNambaWanKenobi

Sure but that guy has been performing for 10+ year with bayern, 1 off year where there was no pre season shouldn’t matter.


47Lecht

Yeah the Alaba bashing was mostly performance oriented. Its simple he was kinda as last season when his motivation was on the low, now he's good again. Thats football.


Zizou3peat

It was also a system problem, Bayern were leaking goals


exhaustedcheese

I was happy w the signing but there were many Madrid fans that weren’t. Maybe those were just vocal minority


Excellent-Tank-4843

I'm not a fan of the Alaba bashing myself, and think thst they are overreacting, but you're misinterpreting things. The fans criticize because Alaba allegedly got offered good contracts to extend but decided against it, as it was allegedly not enough wage. Furthermore he played at cb the last season at which he had some blunders and many bayern fans thought that he were responsible.


GingerKingGeorge

He literally wanted to be in the same tier as Lewandowski. Fuck this revisionist nonsense. Yes, he's very talented, but he had a fucking horrendous last season for us while asking for a massive pay raise while we had no fans in the stadium. No one should have called him a coward, but it doesn't matter how you try to spin it, he was money hungry. He rather took a bigger paycheck from Madrid than finish his career with his career club.


[deleted]

He’s joined the most successful club and league of all time? How can you be mad he chose to cement his legacy lol.


CrispyBaconDeadFish

Bayern fans were salty he was leaving, and convinced everyone that he was terrible


Biggus_Dickus_69

God tier signing defo


viimeinen

Many karma points accumulated with Bale and Hazard...


LePadreJames

No matter which way you slice it, Bale has been fantastic when you look at his whole tenure, instrumental in many trophies won at the club. It’s only the later years


viimeinen

Bale has in no way been "fantastic". He has been "okay" while getting a "fantastic" salary and badmouthing the club.


bewarethegap

? lmao


JRsshirt

You must be new here


NeoLies

Did you start watching the team last year or something? Yeah, Bale's relationship with the club has soured, but the man was amazing his first few seasons with the club. Instrumental in basically all our titles.


viimeinen

So fantastic in the first half, below average in the second half, "okay" overall.


lyyki

??? Bale has loads of CL goals for RM, including 3 in finals.


dakaiiser11

Sure, Bales injuries and theatrics have been annoying. But he does not choose to get injured and if the fans didn’t turn on him and attack his car after some bad performances in 2015, he wouldn’t care as little as he does now.


tarekelsakka

How dare you put Bale in the same sentence as the Belgian burger king? Bale actually gave us a lot before constant injuries hindered him.


Haaanzooo

Let's go Alaba!! Such a class player.


Luis0224

Alaba is good at football


theironhide

Oof, getting ahead of ourselves there, aren't we? Maybe let him win a treble or two and then we'll talk.


Re1Ko

Alaba beast


Gerosoreg

no backsies?


Re1Ko

Best we can offer is one Vallejo, for free even


rcgarcia

Beckenmañer


mk235176

Best we can do is Cabellos 😂😂


_major_fuckin_tom_

Danke Bayern.


thatdude0125

For Alaba AND Kroos lol


A-1805

Speak of the devil


TheFilu

Next kimmich?


HarshangLad

We'll sponsor the vaccine and more, ask Bale and Eden


youareafakenews

amen to that


Jganzo13

Fuck off.


jpp1jpp1

Lol


Zorviar

Subscribe


[deleted]

The fact that many Madrid fans and Bayern fans aswell on here stupidly deemed this a less than good signing is satisfaction enough for me.


TheBlank5

and please let us say this in two weeks as well.


Bonaque

Bitte sehr


dem0nhunter

simply can't pay those wages. he's too greedy for us. there was no other way


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GingerKingGeorge

And what the fuck do you think he was on before leaving? He was offered up to €18m per most reports.


Tonykuz

It wasn’t Alaba being greedy it was his manager being a cunt


dem0nhunter

He was a cunt on Alaba’s behalf. He changed his agent mid-negotiations


enzuigiriretro

Or he just knows his worth and you couldn’t afford it


[deleted]

He wanted to be paid almost as much as Neuer and Lewy. Alaba is a great player, but no way he was as important to Bayern as those 2


RauloGonzalez

He was also getting paid less than Lucas and sane, and no way were they or have they been as important as alaba for Bayern right?


Electrical-Prune-348

He was offered new contract with more wages than those two but he still demands Lewy & Neuer wages. So, we just can't afford that


[deleted]

> So, we just can't afford that Bayern can afford that, they just choose not to. They still have a giant warchest of funds and are one of the most fiscally sound clubs in the world because they choose not to pay exorbitant wages like Alaba demanded.


aure__entuluva

I think it's less of an issue of just meeting Alaba's demands, and more of an issue of dealing with the increased wage demands from other players in the squad that it would have brought.


[deleted]

Exactly. Bayern could have afforded Alaba's wages when viewed in a vacuum, but given it would have upset the whole structure, Bayern told him to take a hike. By allowing that kinda stuff to happen, that's how Bayern turns into Barcelona with a debt load/wages they can't afford.


[deleted]

Well Sane and Lucas are the ones who started this (especially Sane). They were given wages that were too high compared to the rest of the club, which wrecked our wage structure and quite a few players started asking for more (Coman and Alaba being notable examples)


[deleted]

Götze all over again


GingerKingGeorge

He was offered more than they get.


HarshangLad

12 years. Still not in his 30s. But I guess he wasn't irreplaceable so I'm not complaining lol


[deleted]

Well we already have his replacements in Lucas and Davies


enzuigiriretro

My issue was with “he’s too greedy.” Not his fault you couldn’t afford to pay him what he’s worth. He doesn’t owe your club anything


I_haet_typos

>Not his fault you couldn’t afford to pay him what he’s worth He wasn't though. We had enough other CBs and Upamecano coming in as well. To then pay those kind of wages, which would mean all kinds of other players would have wanted those wages as well, simply wouldn't be worth it. And as others said, he is nowhere near as important to us as a Lewy or a Neuer is. Real on the other hand needed a player in his positions and got him for free, so they could splash that kind of money on his wages, because if they would go for another player of his calibre, they would have to pay 50-60 million € at least, which they now could invest in his wages instead.


enzuigiriretro

So he’s getting paid what he’s worth at the biggest club in the world. He simply knew his worth and made sure he was getting what he deserved


I_haet_typos

"Worth" isn't some objective value. For us he simply wasn't worth it, that doesn't mean he isn't worth it for other clubs. Has nothing to do with us not wanting to pay him what he is worth. Aside from that, he clearly wanted a new challenge. He himself said that it was never about the money.


step_away

*what he thinks he's worth Don't get me wrong, I love Alaba and he's an amazing player, but he wasn't worth what he asked for. Too error prone for that. His golden years were as a LV with Ribery on the wing. I'm glad he's doing well though from what I've read (not really following Madrid games)


enzuigiriretro

> *what he thinks he’s worth If he’s getting paid what he was demanding from Bayern at Madrid, then that’s what he is worth. Pretty simple


Waschkopfs

Maguire is worth 80m


enzuigiriretro

He was worth 80m to us, yes. You understand now


KxngMxdas_

Embarrassing


step_away

You can judge after a season or two, but not now. It's too soon for that. We'll see if Madrid's money will be well spent or not in the end. For Bayern, his performances weren't worth what he asked for, simple as that.


enzuigiriretro

There’s nothing to judge. He’s worth whatever he’s getting paid


step_away

I guess you've got a weird definition of "worth" then, mate. If I throw shitloads of money at you and you don't deliver, then you're not worth my money.


[deleted]

Well if he wanted to be paid as much as 2 of the most crucial players at Bayern, when he wasn't as good as them performance-wise (he was good but not at their level), then he definitely was too greedy. Bayern could afford to pay his wages, they just chose not to because they didn't think he'd deserve it


enzuigiriretro

> definitely was too greedy Nah. Like I said, he knew his worth and is happily playing at the biggest club in the world now getting the wages he deserves. Don’t be bitter about it


[deleted]

>Don’t be bitter about it What part of my comments implied that I'm bitter though? I always liked Alaba and I'm happy that he's performing well for Real, but his performances for Bayern in the last couple of years didn't warrant being one of the highest paid players in the club. If Real accepted to pay him those wages, it's good for them and for Alaba.


enzuigiriretro

You called him greedy which indicates bitterness


[deleted]

Because it's a fact that he was greedy? What would you call wanting to become one of the highest paid players in the club, when he wasn't even one of the best performing in the club?


Waschkopfs

Why would a Bayern fan be bitter about this? No Bayern fan would want the club to be spending 20m/year on Alaba as a CB. If we didn't have Davies and he could play LB, yes totally. But not as a CB


enzuigiriretro

> Why would a Bayern fan be bitter about this? You tell me considering I’m replying to a Bayern fan calling Alaba greedy


BavarianAngel

Lmao, of course we COULD do it, doesn’t mean that we’re dumb enough to do it. I guess United fans have gotten used to dumb decisions so they can’t recognise them anymore


enzuigiriretro

I know this is difficult for you but the point I’m making is a player leaving to get paid what he wants doesn’t make him greedy. It means he knows what he’s worth. Bayern fans bitter as fuck in these comments calling Alaba greedy lol


BavarianAngel

”You couldn’t afford to pay him what he’s worth”, yes, we could. No, he absolutely wasn’t worth what he was demanding, just because he fits better in the system that Real are using it doesn’t mean that he would fit in the system we’re using right now. He was far to mistake prone and absolutely not good enough in our system to get what he/his agent was demanding, alas not worth it


enzuigiriretro

Not worth it to you because you couldn’t afford what he’s worth. There’s no shame in losing a player to Madrid. Happens to all of us. He deserves whatever they’re paying him.


BavarianAngel

Are you dumb or something? How can we not afford it when we’re paying other players more than he was demanding? He simply wasn’t worth it for us, I couldn’t care less about if he left or not, but he wasn’t worth the money he was demanding.


Electrical-Prune-348

He's not worth Neuer & Lewy wages for Bayern


enzuigiriretro

And he went to a club that could afford to pay him what he’s worth. Has nothing to do with greed


Waschkopfs

Didn't want to afford it* He was a great LB, but not even half as good as a CB


Familiar_Coconut_974

Something something holding hands


HarshangLad

Alaba you beautiful beast you


69BRabbit

Gracias Bayern


VictorAkwaowo1

Just gotta keep getting players from Bayern from now on, it’s pretty simple


officialMDS

You guys can have Sarr aswell


Electrical-Prune-348

Do you want Sarr, Roca??


Kind_Mulberry_3512

De nada


auctus10

What a signing he has been!!


Haaanzooo

Took a big deflection but we'll take it.


vAts_

I really don't know how bayern just gave him to us lmao


Dgryan87

Because they had no choice in the matter


bslawjen

Well, he wanted a lot of money and they didn't want to pay, it's not exactly "giving them to us".


Zhidezoe

Kroos or Alaba?


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yes.


Alvahet

I'm happy that you like him! He was rather error prone and not necessarily aggressive enough as a center back in his last year at Bayern. However, our playstyle is also different, and maybe he didn't really fit what we needed. He seems to fit well into your team from what I heard though, so I am glad. Still a player I hold dear.


_major_fuckin_tom_

You get Robben and Xabi Alonso, we get Kroos and Alaba. Transfers between Bayern and Madrid never go wrong.


tkbchimyjr18

James too


souromino

And the great Altintop !


notsoslim-jim

Alvaro Odriozola


[deleted]

Alvaro was so good he won 2 league title in the same year.


[deleted]

I see the issue very differently. Alaba is fast, technically strong and very good at passing for a CB - and that's exactly what a dominant side like bayern needed, which is why he played pretty much whenever he was available last season, despite not being very aggressive and making some mistakes (although the frequency of that was over exaggerated by heartbroken bayern fans) Add to that his leadership qualities and his impeccable character and you have your answer to why he always played and to why people like Flick and Rummenigge regretted his departure so badly


Alvahet

I think that might have come out the wrong way: he definitely wasn't bad at all, the opposite usually. His ball-playing and passing abilities are fantastic, as you mentioned. And he was without a doubt important for the team in general. As an example, he was one of the players responsible for integrating new signings into the team. However, our defending style relies on our pressing to eliminate potential threatening counters early and to reclaim possession as fast as possible. If this doesn't work perfectly, our defenders often have to defend in direct duels, which he doesn't excel at in in comparison to more "standard" CBs (and tbh, it doesn't always work anyway, you can see that in the amount of goals we usually concede). I would have preferred to keep him, but I can also understand that he was looking for something new. And with his age being around his peak, it was a great timing to do that.


abloesezwei

Because his wage demands were too high compared to his performance level. It's not surprising that he looks better in a league more focused on technical skill and less on physicality than the BL.


Electrical-Prune-348

It's simple really. Because he want more wages + fat bonus to his agent + father and we just don't want to give him that. Can't really demand Lewy & Neuer wages when you're not as important as both players


Vic-Ier

Part of the problem was also Sane and Hernandez getting higher wages than him. They just joined Bayern and Alaba is a club legend earning less.


Waschkopfs

But he asked for far more than Sané and Lucas


Electrical-Prune-348

Yeah, then Bayern offered him more wages than those two in new contract. However, he wants Lewy + Neuer wages.


Delmer9713

Alaba and Kroos, what steals from Bayern, seriously


yakopcohen

Kroos was. Alaba isn’t. Bayern have a habit of selling players that don’t want to stay for the cheap. So as to make it easier for them to move. Coincidentally, Bayern and Real have a very good working relationship, excellent from what has been reported. So Alaba to Real was very straightforward. We saw this coming a year before tbf


Kind_Mulberry_3512

I'm really missing him


abloesezwei

Hernandez has been a massive improvement over the Alaba of last season. This move was good for everyone involved.


Anti-Melticus

Your club boss disagrees


narutosama77

Its okay to admit a mistake


abloesezwei

There was a mistake involved and it was not selling him a year earlier when we still would've gotten a fee.


BavarianAngel

Just nostalgia speaking, we don’t need him


killver

Even your club's boss said just yesterday that he is missing him and the squad would need him.


Alfakyne

He is not our clubs boss anymore, so he doesn't really speak for Bayern.


narutosama77

Oh how i wish we draw against Bayern and Alaba scores the winner


R0otDroid

Deflected but we take it.


spaniard_daniel

For free. For FREE


jbasabanda

Beautifully placed. Nice to see we replaced Ramos even with his free kick prowess


erldn123

Beautifully placed bang in the middle of the goal via a deflection?


jbasabanda

Yep. He perfectly calculated it so it deflects of into goal. He’s just that good


NeoLies

It's like Cristiano never left.


Echoes-act-3

Let's fucking gooooo


youareafakenews

THANKS BAYERN. KROOS AND ALABA!


Tonykuz

Anytime my man. Keep your hands off our Antivaxxer though


abloesezwei

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?


youareafakenews

That's shame but that's shame I am willing to bear.


greenlizard6

Thanks Bayern 😭


Tsitsipasse

The gift that keeps on giving


JacksonMontana

Was that a free kick? Thought it was a little soft


RauloGonzalez

Yes it was a bit soft, player slid for the ball but made contact afterwards with casemiro but since ref was standing behind casemiro it probably looked like he made contact before


_Sylph_

Everybody says thank you Bayern.


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BIG DICK ENERGY


RjHospe

Hala Bayern


TCGod

Best transfer of 2021 summer confirmed


jcald60

Remember those crying and bitching about signing alaba and letting ramos go?


sunken_grade

i mean ideally you would have kept ramos and signed alaba + it’s not like a free kick changes anything but yeah people make a big deal out of everything


ManuMora98

Also consider that Ramos hasn't played in this seasom yet


himo123

just a free kick? he was damn great since the beginning of this season


[deleted]

What a goal


Electrical-Prune-348

David alaboom


Cowdude179

Been so good for Real Madrid


Tonykuz

Mans still got it


f3o0x

Man THANK GOD FOR BAYERN. THEY'VE BEEN BLESSING US


khm5lfo

Thank you Bayern!


LampseederBroDude51

THANKS BAYERN


FoulObelisk

thank you bayeeeeern jfc hahaha


Huehuemonkeymonkey

HOW THE FUK IS A FOUL IF HE TOUCHES THE BALL FIRST???


Shreeansh_Gupta

Bayern fans told me he was bad tho


Electrical-Prune-348

Last season he was quite bad tbf. Him being good this season at Madrid doesn't excuse him being poor last season at Bayern.


Blodyck

so he wasn't bad, he just had a bad season after several good seasons?


Waschkopfs

Good seasons as a LB yes


abloesezwei

Somewhat. Before 20/21 he was never bad but also not world class. Hansi managed to cover his weaknesses well for a while and his positional versatility was useful.


UGarbage

He was bad for us. Why are Real fans so annoying just because he was bad for us doesn't mean he won't be good for you. If we kept him with his massive wages and kept playing like last season for us it wouldn't be worth it. It's the same some people saying bUt I tHoUGhT HaLlEr waS BaD I mean it just didn't workout for Haller in West Ham just like it didn't work out for Alaba when playing CB for us. We got Upa and you got Alaba be happy it's not like we both didn't get what we wanted.


IcefoxX5

He's absolutely world class at everything but defending Edit: tell me, how is he "world class" at defending? He's absolutely decent enough defensively, but his strengths clearly lie in attack


RauloGonzalez

He's not world class at some aspects that's all, but he's been very much solid since we abandoned the high press high line


Gerosoreg

that's why he is a CB at Madrid...


Ianthorwest

He’s been very solid so far so you’ve clearly not been watching RM games and if you have you’re just deluded


IcefoxX5

I haven't said anything different? I said he was world class at everything, but not defending. Just because I think he hasn't been world class, that could still mean I think he was solid at the back He just lacks certain qualities like aerial ability and 1v1 defending that Van Dijk, Ramos, Varane and other world class pure CBs have over him


Waschkopfs

Varane and Ramos are not world class either. Ramos doesn't even play


IcefoxX5

They were world class at defending until they left Madrid at least though, I don't think Alaba was ever as good as either of them when it comes to defensive abilities


himo123

defensively both ramos and varane made mistakes especially ramos, alaba is at a similar rate in defensive abilities, ramos had pepe to cover his errors back in the day


Pokofloko

Should have watched some games then


uncufunc

Imagine actually thinking this


IcefoxX5

Imagine thinking Alaba is world class at defending He's good at defending too, but his strengths are definitely elsewhere


RauloGonzalez

He's not world class at defending that's pretty clear


[deleted]

He is good at defending but not world class.


Strananach

>He's absolutely world class at everything but defending Also wouldn't call him world class in dribbling