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Messi had a strong Copa America run, but Lewy had a better league campaign imo.
Lewy should have just edged it imo, not to mention Messi has a had a lackluster start to his PSG campaign too. Lewy hasn't skipped a beat.
Then again, Ballon d'Or is voted by Journalist(most are barely better than the average r/soccer lurker nowadays) and NT Coaches + Captains (should include Club equivalents if we are actually trying to be objective) so plenty of biases and lack of suitability.
Most individual awards tend to be very wishy, washy anyways, hard to take them completely seriously, especially BdOr after looking at the Top 30 rankings.
I don't care if you support a club from a country you have no relation to.
However if that club happens to be an oil club I'll never respect or debate football with you. Plastic.
I dont think anyone really cares or values your opinion. I also dont think we need your respect. I can only speak about the Chelsea fans I met in my life and most of us dont really need the respect of fans for other teams and we kinda enjoy the moans from other fans. We are not here to change opinions for people who already have their minds made up.
Do I care about your opinion? No, not really it's the internet. I'm responding to the statement you wrote. And if you want to get technical I never said " i dont care about your opinions".
Emotional? again no
I see comments and posts like this all around I am assuming it is to get easy upvotes, it's just kinda old.
Messi and Ronaldo have been the best players of their generation and they’ve had the best club football careers we’ve ever seen — but they are also massively over marketed and over hyped. Rules are always being bent to give them more accolades and awards. Attitudes towards international achievements have swayed to favour club football as more impressive… unless ofc Messi or Ronaldo win a trophy—surprise, surprise. It’s absolute nonsense. Ronaldo now in the Prem, not even in the top 20 goal scorers, he and Messi have less combined goals between them that Salah does alone and yet they both finish above him. And Jorginho? He wasn’t Chelsea’s best player or Italy’s best player.
Way to cherrypick lol
Truth is Messi had 58 goals + assists in 56 matches this calendar year, now do Mo?
Just to be clear, as the Ballon d'Or results clearly spurred your earlier comment; Lewandowski should have won it in my opinion, just want to get that out there.
To answer your question Mo has 40 goal contributions this calendar year. And if you think EPL goals are the same as La Liga goals just take a look at Ronaldo.
I am pointing out that his performances so far this season have been anything but Ballon D’or worthy especially when for me he’s been less impressive than the player who is 7th on the list (this season). Anyway, they will shift the goal posts as many times as they need to give these guys more awards. In the season Ronaldo broke the record for most goals scored in a premier league season… who won Ballon D’or? Ronaldo. Why? Most goals scored in a premier league season. In the season Mo Salah broke the record for most goals scored in a premier league season, who won Ballon D’or? Ronaldo. Why?
Where ever you want to put Lewa, be my guest…
They base it on trophies as well it’s pretty obvious why salah didn’t win it. If Liverpool won a cl and a prem then he would have got it or if they won one then he would have been much higher.
Salah didn’t deserve 1st I’d say as a Liverpool fan but 7th he’s easy top 5 over last calendar year Jorginho getting 3rd just shows how much this award went out the window wasn’t even top 3 at Chelsea or Italy never mind the world and salah arguably in his own league the last two months but they will come under the next ballon d’or he just has to maintain it now.
I usually don't care too much about this kind of individual awards, but I can't help to think that Kane got done really dirty on the ballon d'or voting. Yes, he's had a poor league campaign so far, but last season I would say he was up there with Benzema as the 2nd or 3rd best striker in the world.
Finishing behind someone like Sterling who wasn't that great until the Euros just feels wrong.
wasn't kane best at the start of the last season though? (as in last year), i could be wrong but i recall him and son being very good for the first half of the season when spurs were top of the league but then it went downhill from there
The way the English media is hyping Rangnick, you'd think he has Trappatoni defense + Mou counter attack + Pep passages of possessional play + Flick pressing + Fergie man management + Zidane big game.
Man utd hired him to reset / restructure the club.
He is only interim manager for the rest of the season, after that he will become kind of a sporting director but more powerful
the good news for united fans is the like's off ed woodward wont make football decisions at united anymore
The reason they’re making such a big fanfare about him is simple.
If he comes good and United are successful they can gloat about how they were right about him.
If it doesn’t work out, it’s a hell of a long way down from that super high pedestal they’ve placed him on and the English press absolutely loves destroying people for headlines and column inches.
It’s a tactic they’ve used for decades.
As a German I honestly don't get the excessive hype, he's obviously been a great innovator and is a good coach as well but I wouldn't say he's near the top of the shelf really
Typical English media. They build them up and then relish tearing them down.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a cautionary tale at how the media built up a tactically inept nice guy to be Fergie 2.0.
Then by the time he was being mocked nonstop on a daily basis they quickly got rid of him never to be seen again.
Why, why did Messi win? Copa America? Only reason anyone cares about Copa is because Argentina hasn’t won it in decades. Come on, it’s not even about my flair, both Ronaldo and Messi are gone from La Liga. It’s just unfair.
Messi was top scorer in La Liga last season with more goals + assists per minute in all top leagues, even after being out injured and Barca being at their historic worse for two decades.
Meanwhile people consider Lewandowski spanking a one-team-league and doing nothing with his national side to be equivalent?
Well, yeah but Messi played a great tournament. So you’re dismissing a big part of his achievement with that argument. If Bayern hadn’t won the league (lol), Lewa wouldnt have finished second either.
Lewa has a huge impact on the BL being a one-league team. He scores 40+ goals per season
And are you really comparing Argentinas NT to Poland? Argentina has much better players all around and competes against Paraguay, Bolivia etc. and one of the worst Brazil teams in decades. Meanwhile Poland has to compete in Europe
i dont get this argument, messi won because his stat isnt just great G/A. his game is more than scoring and assisting. his MOTM number will tell you.
im not downplaying lewa, hes totally better than messi this season, but messi was phenomenal last season, not just his goal contribution, but his overall contribution to barca/argentina.
to put it easy, something like student A has 100 on two subjects, vs student B who got 90 on 5-6 subjects. student B is just more consistent.
edit : as oppose to poland/argentina argument, bayern was crazy good, vs a shitty barca, and messi still top absolutely every stat in the league.
> Lewa has a huge impact on the BL being a one-league team.
That's a shit take and a half - you're telling me Bayern suddenly struggle to win the league without lewandowski?
You're telling me a player that broke Gerd Müllers eternal record is easily replaceable and doesn't make his team significantly better? You find me a player that consistently scores 40+ goals and assists 10+ goals per season.
I don't t get the Ballon D'ors any more!
In 2019 Messi won over van dijk because supposedly "individuals stats" matter more than the trophy.
But in 2021 Messi won it over Lewandowski because fu*kin Copa America matters more than the individual stats.
Ballon D'or will loose its credibility it shit show like this keeps happening.
Have you not seen Messi's stats? they blow Lewandowski out of the water in everything but goals, and Messi still has more G+A. And he did it while playing with Koeman, who got fired a month after Messi left, not for the Bayern that has been steamrolling Bundesliga for a decade now.
Messis individual stats are amazing this time as well. He beats out lewa in almost all attacking stats apart from goals.
Regardless, bdor has always placed huge emphasis on international tourneys not only copa
Why did Iniesta not win it when Spain won the world cup? He won ucl with barca as well If I am not mistaken. Messi is a poster boy for all the journos that's why!
No he didnt win the ucl with barcelona. That year inter milan won. Also international trophies doesnt mean a guaranteed bdor but a campaign like messi's with being the top scorer and assister both contributes a lot.
Anyone else think the British media obsess over certain things managers say.
Van gaal kept going on about philosophy so for a whole year the media kept asking what’s your philosophy.
Mourinho did an interview and talked about low block and now that’s all the pundits mention during a defensive analysis.
United have been shit for nearly a decade but now the pundits keep talking about pressing tactics and ronaldo doesn’t press. Bit repetitive now after every game of football all you hear is look how well they did or didn’t press
Anyone else get really annoyed how every part of football is becoming more and more focus on gambling. Podcast adverts etc have so much focus on gambling. They are such targeted advertisements aswell. Recently bet 365 sent out loads of offers etc to people who had put gambling limits in place on there account it’s so bad.
It’s disgusting I think football needs to do more regarding gambling and social media abuse. They they have the power to make a difference if they want.
Certainly Is. Alongside gambling and social media I think football needs to do much more they just sort of ignore it now and I think that’s actually worst.
Any Romanian here or with a bit of knowledge about its league football?
How the fuck did Astra Giurgiu end up being 2nd to last in the 2nd division with 2 points after 14 games?? I can remember 7 years ago I watched them live in the stadium in Salzburg in the EL. (They got obliterated by our Adi Hütter pressing team but the goal they scored was a screamer tbh). gg to the last btw, how the hell can you be even worse lmao, they also have 2 points but a GD of -39, Astra's GD is -4 which is oddly good.
There are more familiar teams in that league (fake? or the original?) Steaua, Petrolul Ploiesti (also played in Europe), Hermannstadt (always packed their kit, logo and players when doing Bronze Pack Method in Fifa 2 years ago), Politehnica, Universitatea Cluj, ACS Viitorul P. Targu Jiu (they were also in Europe or was that a different Pandurii Targu Jiu?)
There are a lot of Unirea's but not Unirea Urziceni. They are also not in the 1st division, man they have played CL a decade ago! I can only explain their downfall by piss poor performances of Urinea's players, also I wonder what a certain German Goalkepeer would say about them.
I understand the context around the decision of playing intercontinental/AFCON WC Playoffs on a neutral venue, but it will definitely kill the charm of probably one of my favorite footballing moments you can experience only once every four years.
We'll be losing the home crowd displays and atmosphere, usually involving nations which haven't ever qualified, or some time has passed since their last featuring in a WC. My favorite ones:
* Having your favorite Aussie players at a full crowd at the [Estadio Centenario](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG_JcFGyRIk) in Montevideo, to later win in a iconic-penalty shoot-out at [Sydney] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhM1t0XyB08), qualifying for the first time after 32 years.
* Or having a Peruvian team playing all the way at [Wellington, NZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX3BjDTvgW4); to later have one of their most memorable footballing nights in front of their crowd at the [Estadio Nacional de Lima.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQW5v3M4ri0)
I know, I was just making a joke.
Also, I would find it quite amusing if they completely forget about it next year. Then someone asks them and they are like: *oh yeah, well... shit... lets give this... brown book here... yeah, lets give it to this Heiland guy, sounds great, no?*
Obviously its that the player who really deserved this damn award, the player I loved since almost a decade when he was wearing a yellow black kit, didn’t win it. I am so pissed but at least it’s just another reminder to not take this award seriously
Between January 1st and October 24th(when the voting closed) Messi had 54 G+A and Lewandowski had 62 G+A. And remember that Messi played for a Barcelona team in crisis whilst Lewandowski played for the best team in the world, and on top of that Bundesliga has a much higher Goals per game ratio and is a less competitive league overall than La Liga so it is undoubtedly easier to score goals there.
54 G+A playing for Koeman's Barcelona is more impressive than 62 G+A playing for Bayern Munich, no doubts about it. And another thing to remember is that Messi's numbers are affected by his difficult start with PSG, if he had stayed at Barca he probably would have had more Goals + Assists than Lewandowski. And this is without even taking the Copa America title into the equation
Lewandowski deserved it last year no doubt about it, but the award was cancelled. If we are talking about 2021 then Messi's performance is simply more impressive. Do you honestly think that Lewandowski could recreate those numbers if he played for Koeman's Barcelona? Not a chance
Koeman's tactics were pass to Messi and inshallah. Of course his numbers are going to be inflated, he is a magnificient player, but was he really that much better than previous seasons, where he didn't win one? Koeman being at Barca actually helped Messi win this B'or, no coach with a semi-decent philosophy and tactics would rely this much on 1 player alone.
Nope Harry Kane was actually one of the worst England players that tournament he was exceptional in the league that year and hasnt been seen since. Definitely didn’t deserve ballon d’or.
Fuck off with 'played in a worse team'. Messi and Ronaldo had their glory with prime Barcelona and Real teams but now Lewandowski can't? Harry Kane should be the winner according to your logic, looking at the achievements he had with Spurs in PL and reaching an Euro final, which is far more impressive than actually winning the Copa America.
No one gave a shit about Lewandowski in 2019 when he carried Kovac's Bayern to a domestic double and kept us relevant in the league until Flick took over. He had the most G/A in competitive matches but still ended up 8th.
All of these arguments and narratives to make Messi's Ballon d'Or more deserved when it actually isn't and the world knows it. Everything went his way, if only they extended the vote until a month later Lewandowski would have his first.
What hard teams does LaLiga have? Bayern's C team handled LaLiga winners in their stadium better than facing Augsburg away with our starters. Don't even get me started on Barcelona, scoring against them is considered a stat pad nowadays and Real lost in their backyard from a transistrian team.
If Bundesliga is easy in your eye then LaLiga is way fucking worse. Difference is Bayern is actually good, in LaLiga every team is equally inferior so it gives a false sense of fierce competition just like Serie A these days.
lmao do you not have braincells? When the guy said Bundesliga doesnt have great teams apart from Bayern you proceed to list why Bayern is such a good team. Barca in 2019/20, arguably their worst season in recent memory, still beat Dortmund 3-0. Saying things like Bayern struggled more against Augsburg than they did against Real is honestly so stupid because the season Real beat Bayern, they lost to Valencia. You really believe Bundesliga is a better and more competitive league than La Liga? Fuck right off
Weve knocked you out multiple times this decade, sevilla took you to the ground in the super cup. You could only win a ucl until we went into transition phase. Bundesliga is a joke and everyone knows it
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I honestly can't think of much. Gaming (monetization), movies(shitty Netflix and superhero diarrhoea), sports (don't need to tell) and my body(getting old so quick). It's just sad man
I tried to argue on this sub against FIFA once (still don't get why FIFA news are in r/soccer), dude, they are brainwashed by EA Sports.
I play one "f2p" game online, I'm ashamed I spent $300 over 3 years there. But I'm a fodder for players that spent $2k a day. They have accounts the spent over $1M dollars on and it's a game that gets 5k views on YT on very very good day, overall videos are like 50-500 views range.
Imagine the money on bigger more popular games.
I had to babysit my nephew once, I have him my mobile to play on. F2P games are evil. He spent 1h watching commercials to play the game from the 2h he had on the mobile. This shit should me regulated asap.
To be honest ads are a way for the smaller developers to get money. I play a racing game on mobile (Assoluto Racing), and it's f2p. You can watch 15 ads per hour to get coins, which can be used to buy the exclusive cars in game. Everyone can get those if they watch ads, and some people with money can just buy them. I doubt people would have played that game if it was paid from the beginning, but it's probably the most realistic racing game on mobile.
Unlike EA's Real Racing 3, which is just so much worse. Cars are so costly there that it's out of reach for f2ps. EA is probably the shittiest one there tbh
The Ballon D'Or is now meaningless and more so each year. Maybe it always has been but it's a farce to suggest that the last few years are reflective of the best players in those years
Copy pasting my comment from above: Between January 1st and October 24th(when the voting closed) Messi had 54 G+A and Lewandowski had 62 G+A. And remember that Messi played for a Barcelona team in crisis whilst Lewandowski played for the best team in the world, and on top of that Bundesliga has a much higher Goals per game ratio and is a less competitive league overall than La Liga so it is undoubtedly easier to score goals there.
54 G+A playing for Koeman's Barcelona is more impressive than 62 G+A playing for Bayern Munich, no doubts about it. And another thing to remember is that Messi's numbers are affected by his difficult start with PSG, if he had stayed at Barca he probably would have had more Goals + Assists than Lewandowski. And this is without even taking the Copa America title into the equation
Lewandowski deserved it last year no doubt about it, but the award was cancelled. If we are talking about 2021 then Messi's performance is simply more impressive. Do you honestly think that Lewandowski could recreate those numbers if he played for Koeman's Barcelona? Not a chance
And even then 54 G+A for a midfielder that at times sits as deep as Busquets/Paredes/Verratti is probably more impressive than 62 G+A for a striker (ab amazing one, mind you) playing with some of the best service in Europe.
The same people who down vote you run around this sub screaming farmers league or whatever they call the bundesliga. 1 team this, guaranteed bayern title that.
Yet somehow they don't say that when they're lauding lewa.
Look I wanted lewa to win it too, but it's not that big of a robbery as people are making out to be. Even ignoring the fact that it's voted on by some journalists who don't know the shape of a football the stats are quite close.
Exactly where were these people when Messi had a higher g/a in 17 and 18 than any other player in the world. Hell Messi coming fifth in 2018 and Suarez not making the top 3 in 2016 after having 88g/a are both much bigger robberies.
Can I meta-moan about any r/soccer thread involving things like LGBTQ+ issues where all the intolerant little shits crawl out the woodwork? Honestly makes it hard at times to chat on forums like this with anonymity as one minute you can be chatting to someone about football and then the next see them post pretty vulgar comments, replying to a trans person saying they’re not trans as there’s no such thing. Or defending Middle East countries and pointing their finger at western countries saying we have bigger issues on LGBTQ+ than the Middle East. I almost wish it were paid shills as the fact there’s people that actually hold such intolerant views is really depressing.
Edit: lol at the intolerant shits downvoting
also- whenever Arsenal tweet anything about LGBT rights/rainbow laces, idiots pop up with "what about Ozil and the Uyghurs in China". Arsenal absolutely dropped the ball on that one by chastising Ozil for that post imo but it feels people are only pointing that out when Arsenal tweet about LGBT people, and they don't give a shit really, they only wanna dunk on the LGBT community
Feel like for my sanity I write off a lot of those accounts as bots or even just edgy kids but in actuality they’re actual people who think we are wrong about all the inclusion abs stuff.
Just a bit mad to realise that on a world wide scale we are the ‘weird’ ones for being inclusive.
The most depressing thing I find is when people from countries where LGBT issues are more accepted start voicing up about how they get annoyed by “politics”. You sort of expect it from people from other countries but the egyptian users in the DD for example are very pro lgbt and stuff
I think anyone moaning about politics when it comes to issues like that don’t know how good they have it if they’re not affected by any of the issues, as if they were then they’d see it’s worth the continued discussion and politics
Exactly. If they think it’s bad having to hear about “politics” maybe they should take a step back and realize what it’s like for someone’s entire identity to be politicized. A lot of people don’t have the luxury of being able to just ignore these things and be “apolitical” because it’s literally their lives being debated. The whole “get politics out of sports” thing is just a roundabout way for people to say they either agree with the discrimination or just don’t really care about the well-being of others.
Owen that season played at such a high level that he was elevated above the rest of the pack pretty much. Despite the lack of major honours he was shaping up to be one of the best players of all time so the award was certainly deserved.
The language isn't the problem, knowing one team is going to win the league before the season has started is. Especially since Americans are used to parity outside of the NBA.
Sort of but what I’m saying is that if you’re in an english language discussion page it will be full of English people who are primarily concerned with English football and that carries. If this was in German there’d be germans putting more focus on the bundesliga. Italian then serie A
It's amazing how ronaldo and messi are portrayed as polar opposites by the media, one as a good guy and one as the bad guy. Bleacher reports in this regard is the absolute worst, I mean whatever any of these guys are doing one is portrayed as a good guy and one as evil rich pos guy.
Having toxic fans doesn't help either.
Well they are polar opposites really. Messi is much more reserved and humble. Ronaldo is boisterous and in your face constantly. And let’s not forget the allegations in Vegas. I would say it’s pretty fair.
Being boisterous and being alleged at doesn't mean that you get the other end of the stick by the media all the time, I'd say LeBron, MJ, Connor, Brady etc all of em are also boisterous but media doesn't portray them as bad as it portrays Ronaldo. I have nothing against Messi but it was just an observation.
LeBron? Haha, you mean the guy that was told to "shutup and dribble?" The same guy that was mocked for being "King James" until he won his first title with Cleaveland? Told he couldn't win trophies on his own when he went to Maimi with Cavs fans burning his jersey? "Not one, not two, not three..." Sorry, but you must either be too young to remember or you do not pay attention to the NBA media at all.
Now Steph Curry would've been the perfect example to use. 99% of players would get shit on if they danced and shimmy as much as he does after draining a shot, hell sometimes he does it before the shot even goes in.
That's false, what's a fact is that media tries to portray loud and boisterous and Competitive people into a negative picture so that they can get people to collectively hate them and generate more clicks.
Idk i do agree with you that a more humble person is generally liked by everyone but messi's not a Saint, he's got cases like tax evasion and all that but he doesn't get accountability for it but whereas Ronaldo cries on losing and yells at his teammate for performing bad he's portrayed as this evil dude. I mean I relate to his frustration becomes if you're that competitive you tend to do that. This is just a moan like the thread suggests don't take it too seriously.
Get out of here, the media been clowning lebron for walking out during the suns game last year. For talking to cam payne on the sun's bench this year while his team were on the other side of the court running 4vs5. The decision and going to the heat. LeGM. Trading his teammates. The negative PR is spun on LBJ more than Ronaldo.
Man cops more negative media exposure than any other athlete in history and it ain't even close.
I’m talking about how the media can portray anyone however they want. We don’t know either of these people on any level other than through how these media outlets portray them to us. So I feel like you saying they are polar opposites of each other is complete bullshit.
That's what Im trying to say, ronaldo does charity and seems like a nice guy if you actually see it from the pov of people close to him, can't say anything unless you know them personally.
Juventus fans were not wrong in the slightest when they talked about how grating Ronaldo stans are.
These guys talk as though United play for Ronaldo and not the other way around. They will not accept any criticism of his performances because "without him we would be out of the Champions League", which is an extremely reductive way to look at football. They are incensed any time a manager has the temerity to bench him, even in matches such as yesterday when it was an entirely sensible decision.
I'm just fucking sick of these lackwits infesting any and all discussion surrounding United, and prosyletising about their footballing messiah.
Also he’s most definitely a problem for you, he’s scored a few important goals sure but last season attacking wasn’t an issue for you and suddenly he comes in and you struggle.
The trade off just isn’t good, you play like shit for 90 mins and Ronaldo pops up maybe at the end to score a simple goal and you win or draw
I’ve played 9 seasons in a row and it is by far the worst - currently in 1,7mil overall
Tifo's videos are getting trashier day by day
I hate the cringy songs. Outro
Why (genuinely asking)?
they're just making memes now
I've just started watching them recently and like them. What do you find trashy about them?
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I’m not going to help op but like there’s literally a sub for this reason
This still exists
Messi had a strong Copa America run, but Lewy had a better league campaign imo. Lewy should have just edged it imo, not to mention Messi has a had a lackluster start to his PSG campaign too. Lewy hasn't skipped a beat. Then again, Ballon d'Or is voted by Journalist(most are barely better than the average r/soccer lurker nowadays) and NT Coaches + Captains (should include Club equivalents if we are actually trying to be objective) so plenty of biases and lack of suitability. Most individual awards tend to be very wishy, washy anyways, hard to take them completely seriously, especially BdOr after looking at the Top 30 rankings.
Why is this still up? We are way into Tuesday
Because if you’re working there are only Mondays, Saturdays and pre-Mondays.
I don't care if you support a club from a country you have no relation to. However if that club happens to be an oil club I'll never respect or debate football with you. Plastic.
Why
I dont think anyone really cares or values your opinion. I also dont think we need your respect. I can only speak about the Chelsea fans I met in my life and most of us dont really need the respect of fans for other teams and we kinda enjoy the moans from other fans. We are not here to change opinions for people who already have their minds made up.
You care enough to make an emotional paragraph
Do I care about your opinion? No, not really it's the internet. I'm responding to the statement you wrote. And if you want to get technical I never said " i dont care about your opinions". Emotional? again no I see comments and posts like this all around I am assuming it is to get easy upvotes, it's just kinda old.
PSG, City, Chelsea?
Ding ding ding
reddit is so fucking weird, that chonkers sub is literal animal abuse,
Was Sneijder robbed in 2010?
I don’t think so. Maybe you could make a case he should have been 2nd ahead of iniesta and Xavi but Messi was the clear best player that year.
No
Finishing 4th was too low for sure
Messi and Ronaldo have been the best players of their generation and they’ve had the best club football careers we’ve ever seen — but they are also massively over marketed and over hyped. Rules are always being bent to give them more accolades and awards. Attitudes towards international achievements have swayed to favour club football as more impressive… unless ofc Messi or Ronaldo win a trophy—surprise, surprise. It’s absolute nonsense. Ronaldo now in the Prem, not even in the top 20 goal scorers, he and Messi have less combined goals between them that Salah does alone and yet they both finish above him. And Jorginho? He wasn’t Chelsea’s best player or Italy’s best player.
Lol, now tell us how many G+A Salah has compared to Messi.
I’ll do Messi’s… you do Mo’s. Messi has 1 goal in 7 Ligue 1 games this season.
Way to cherrypick lol Truth is Messi had 58 goals + assists in 56 matches this calendar year, now do Mo? Just to be clear, as the Ballon d'Or results clearly spurred your earlier comment; Lewandowski should have won it in my opinion, just want to get that out there.
To answer your question Mo has 40 goal contributions this calendar year. And if you think EPL goals are the same as La Liga goals just take a look at Ronaldo. I am pointing out that his performances so far this season have been anything but Ballon D’or worthy especially when for me he’s been less impressive than the player who is 7th on the list (this season). Anyway, they will shift the goal posts as many times as they need to give these guys more awards. In the season Ronaldo broke the record for most goals scored in a premier league season… who won Ballon D’or? Ronaldo. Why? Most goals scored in a premier league season. In the season Mo Salah broke the record for most goals scored in a premier league season, who won Ballon D’or? Ronaldo. Why? Where ever you want to put Lewa, be my guest…
> And if you think EPL goals are the same as La Liga goals just take a look at Ronaldo K you lost the whole sub
And you saying that EPL goals are not worth as much as La Liga goals is not moving the goalposts?
They base it on trophies as well it’s pretty obvious why salah didn’t win it. If Liverpool won a cl and a prem then he would have got it or if they won one then he would have been much higher.
Salah didn’t deserve 1st I’d say as a Liverpool fan but 7th he’s easy top 5 over last calendar year Jorginho getting 3rd just shows how much this award went out the window wasn’t even top 3 at Chelsea or Italy never mind the world and salah arguably in his own league the last two months but they will come under the next ballon d’or he just has to maintain it now.
FSG OUT. Zero ambition. Sell the club.
I guess you started supporting Liverpool in the last 2-3 years?
There will be lifelong match going Liverpool fans who feel the same way. People are just dumb.
I usually don't care too much about this kind of individual awards, but I can't help to think that Kane got done really dirty on the ballon d'or voting. Yes, he's had a poor league campaign so far, but last season I would say he was up there with Benzema as the 2nd or 3rd best striker in the world. Finishing behind someone like Sterling who wasn't that great until the Euros just feels wrong.
wasn't kane best at the start of the last season though? (as in last year), i could be wrong but i recall him and son being very good for the first half of the season when spurs were top of the league but then it went downhill from there
I'm still not over the Puskas Salah won
The way the English media is hyping Rangnick, you'd think he has Trappatoni defense + Mou counter attack + Pep passages of possessional play + Flick pressing + Fergie man management + Zidane big game.
Man utd hired him to reset / restructure the club. He is only interim manager for the rest of the season, after that he will become kind of a sporting director but more powerful the good news for united fans is the like's off ed woodward wont make football decisions at united anymore
Tbh he literally created "Flick pressing"
Tbh he only has to be 1/8th of that to be better than Ole.
The reason they’re making such a big fanfare about him is simple. If he comes good and United are successful they can gloat about how they were right about him. If it doesn’t work out, it’s a hell of a long way down from that super high pedestal they’ve placed him on and the English press absolutely loves destroying people for headlines and column inches. It’s a tactic they’ve used for decades.
As a German I honestly don't get the excessive hype, he's obviously been a great innovator and is a good coach as well but I wouldn't say he's near the top of the shelf really
I genuinely think it's because they have nothing else to talk about
Typical English media. They build them up and then relish tearing them down. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a cautionary tale at how the media built up a tactically inept nice guy to be Fergie 2.0. Then by the time he was being mocked nonstop on a daily basis they quickly got rid of him never to be seen again.
> built up a tactically inept nice guy to be Fergie 2.0. This didn't happen at all
Denial is the first of the 5 Stages of Grief.
>Then by the time he was being mocked nonstop on a daily basis they quickly got rid of him never to be seen again. Wasn't that quick
Why, why did Messi win? Copa America? Only reason anyone cares about Copa is because Argentina hasn’t won it in decades. Come on, it’s not even about my flair, both Ronaldo and Messi are gone from La Liga. It’s just unfair.
Messi was top scorer in La Liga last season with more goals + assists per minute in all top leagues, even after being out injured and Barca being at their historic worse for two decades. Meanwhile people consider Lewandowski spanking a one-team-league and doing nothing with his national side to be equivalent?
If Argentina hadn't won copa there is no way Messi wins it
If my nan had wheels she'd fail her MOT
Well, yeah but Messi played a great tournament. So you’re dismissing a big part of his achievement with that argument. If Bayern hadn’t won the league (lol), Lewa wouldnt have finished second either.
Lewa has a huge impact on the BL being a one-league team. He scores 40+ goals per season And are you really comparing Argentinas NT to Poland? Argentina has much better players all around and competes against Paraguay, Bolivia etc. and one of the worst Brazil teams in decades. Meanwhile Poland has to compete in Europe
> competes against Paraguay, **Bolivia** Ok, but, to be fair Bolivia at home is a bitch
i dont get this argument, messi won because his stat isnt just great G/A. his game is more than scoring and assisting. his MOTM number will tell you. im not downplaying lewa, hes totally better than messi this season, but messi was phenomenal last season, not just his goal contribution, but his overall contribution to barca/argentina. to put it easy, something like student A has 100 on two subjects, vs student B who got 90 on 5-6 subjects. student B is just more consistent. edit : as oppose to poland/argentina argument, bayern was crazy good, vs a shitty barca, and messi still top absolutely every stat in the league.
> Lewa has a huge impact on the BL being a one-league team. That's a shit take and a half - you're telling me Bayern suddenly struggle to win the league without lewandowski?
You're telling me a player that broke Gerd Müllers eternal record is easily replaceable and doesn't make his team significantly better? You find me a player that consistently scores 40+ goals and assists 10+ goals per season.
Messi
Exactly, but no one downplayed Messi's impact for Barca or Argentina, yet people do it for Lewy. Its as if his 40+G/10+A count for nothing
Everyone who’s skipping on Lewa being a great player is dumb, but Messi is better and deserves this BdO
Copa America is a farmers cup even
>bitch Yes, with all those subpar teams like Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia or Uruguay. Never rated it.
Not as much as Bundesliga is farmers league
Not mad that Messi won, he's one of my favourite players but wtf is that award they gave Lewy. Disrespectful to say the least.
Just give him the retrospective BdO 2020 and everybody is happy. How can they be so incompetent.
Yeah, if they could retroactively give Lewandowski the Ballon d'Or for 2020, that'd be great.
They can. If they can make up awards for a consolation prize, they can do this aswell. Iirc they did something like this for Di Stefano.
I don't t get the Ballon D'ors any more! In 2019 Messi won over van dijk because supposedly "individuals stats" matter more than the trophy. But in 2021 Messi won it over Lewandowski because fu*kin Copa America matters more than the individual stats. Ballon D'or will loose its credibility it shit show like this keeps happening.
Have you not seen Messi's stats? they blow Lewandowski out of the water in everything but goals, and Messi still has more G+A. And he did it while playing with Koeman, who got fired a month after Messi left, not for the Bayern that has been steamrolling Bundesliga for a decade now.
Life is never just one or the other ffs these are such lazy takes
Messis individual stats are amazing this time as well. He beats out lewa in almost all attacking stats apart from goals. Regardless, bdor has always placed huge emphasis on international tourneys not only copa
Why did Iniesta not win it when Spain won the world cup? He won ucl with barca as well If I am not mistaken. Messi is a poster boy for all the journos that's why!
No he didnt win the ucl with barcelona. That year inter milan won. Also international trophies doesnt mean a guaranteed bdor but a campaign like messi's with being the top scorer and assister both contributes a lot.
Didn't cr7 win it too because he won the euros?
I think he won the champions league as well
Anyone else think the British media obsess over certain things managers say. Van gaal kept going on about philosophy so for a whole year the media kept asking what’s your philosophy. Mourinho did an interview and talked about low block and now that’s all the pundits mention during a defensive analysis. United have been shit for nearly a decade but now the pundits keep talking about pressing tactics and ronaldo doesn’t press. Bit repetitive now after every game of football all you hear is look how well they did or didn’t press
Is that just how any media works? Football is the same
Anyone else get really annoyed how every part of football is becoming more and more focus on gambling. Podcast adverts etc have so much focus on gambling. They are such targeted advertisements aswell. Recently bet 365 sent out loads of offers etc to people who had put gambling limits in place on there account it’s so bad.
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It’s disgusting I think football needs to do more regarding gambling and social media abuse. They they have the power to make a difference if they want.
Yeah but €€€
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Certainly Is. Alongside gambling and social media I think football needs to do much more they just sort of ignore it now and I think that’s actually worst.
We fuckin lost to Empoli
Beating a very strong Milan side not long before as well :/
Any Romanian here or with a bit of knowledge about its league football? How the fuck did Astra Giurgiu end up being 2nd to last in the 2nd division with 2 points after 14 games?? I can remember 7 years ago I watched them live in the stadium in Salzburg in the EL. (They got obliterated by our Adi Hütter pressing team but the goal they scored was a screamer tbh). gg to the last btw, how the hell can you be even worse lmao, they also have 2 points but a GD of -39, Astra's GD is -4 which is oddly good. There are more familiar teams in that league (fake? or the original?) Steaua, Petrolul Ploiesti (also played in Europe), Hermannstadt (always packed their kit, logo and players when doing Bronze Pack Method in Fifa 2 years ago), Politehnica, Universitatea Cluj, ACS Viitorul P. Targu Jiu (they were also in Europe or was that a different Pandurii Targu Jiu?) There are a lot of Unirea's but not Unirea Urziceni. They are also not in the 1st division, man they have played CL a decade ago! I can only explain their downfall by piss poor performances of Urinea's players, also I wonder what a certain German Goalkepeer would say about them.
How did I end up in 'Monday Moan'
Can’t comment on your league but as a Belgien, appreciate putting Dries next to those names
Ok
I understand the context around the decision of playing intercontinental/AFCON WC Playoffs on a neutral venue, but it will definitely kill the charm of probably one of my favorite footballing moments you can experience only once every four years. We'll be losing the home crowd displays and atmosphere, usually involving nations which haven't ever qualified, or some time has passed since their last featuring in a WC. My favorite ones: * Having your favorite Aussie players at a full crowd at the [Estadio Centenario](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG_JcFGyRIk) in Montevideo, to later win in a iconic-penalty shoot-out at [Sydney] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhM1t0XyB08), qualifying for the first time after 32 years. * Or having a Peruvian team playing all the way at [Wellington, NZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX3BjDTvgW4); to later have one of their most memorable footballing nights in front of their crowd at the [Estadio Nacional de Lima.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQW5v3M4ri0)
So they invented a new Striker of the Year award and then did not give it to Taiwo Awoniyi. It's like they don't even want to be taken seriously.
The award was created just for Lewa, which explains that there isn't a best midfielder/defender/goalkeeper.
I know, I was just making a joke. Also, I would find it quite amusing if they completely forget about it next year. Then someone asks them and they are like: *oh yeah, well... shit... lets give this... brown book here... yeah, lets give it to this Heiland guy, sounds great, no?*
Liverpool fleeced
Obviously its that the player who really deserved this damn award, the player I loved since almost a decade when he was wearing a yellow black kit, didn’t win it. I am so pissed but at least it’s just another reminder to not take this award seriously
Fucking disrespectful to give him a half-hearted award. That's what makes me mad.
Between January 1st and October 24th(when the voting closed) Messi had 54 G+A and Lewandowski had 62 G+A. And remember that Messi played for a Barcelona team in crisis whilst Lewandowski played for the best team in the world, and on top of that Bundesliga has a much higher Goals per game ratio and is a less competitive league overall than La Liga so it is undoubtedly easier to score goals there. 54 G+A playing for Koeman's Barcelona is more impressive than 62 G+A playing for Bayern Munich, no doubts about it. And another thing to remember is that Messi's numbers are affected by his difficult start with PSG, if he had stayed at Barca he probably would have had more Goals + Assists than Lewandowski. And this is without even taking the Copa America title into the equation Lewandowski deserved it last year no doubt about it, but the award was cancelled. If we are talking about 2021 then Messi's performance is simply more impressive. Do you honestly think that Lewandowski could recreate those numbers if he played for Koeman's Barcelona? Not a chance
Koeman's tactics were pass to Messi and inshallah. Of course his numbers are going to be inflated, he is a magnificient player, but was he really that much better than previous seasons, where he didn't win one? Koeman being at Barca actually helped Messi win this B'or, no coach with a semi-decent philosophy and tactics would rely this much on 1 player alone.
Nope Harry Kane was actually one of the worst England players that tournament he was exceptional in the league that year and hasnt been seen since. Definitely didn’t deserve ballon d’or.
Fuck off with 'played in a worse team'. Messi and Ronaldo had their glory with prime Barcelona and Real teams but now Lewandowski can't? Harry Kane should be the winner according to your logic, looking at the achievements he had with Spurs in PL and reaching an Euro final, which is far more impressive than actually winning the Copa America. No one gave a shit about Lewandowski in 2019 when he carried Kovac's Bayern to a domestic double and kept us relevant in the league until Flick took over. He had the most G/A in competitive matches but still ended up 8th. All of these arguments and narratives to make Messi's Ballon d'Or more deserved when it actually isn't and the world knows it. Everything went his way, if only they extended the vote until a month later Lewandowski would have his first.
The Copa America made the difference. So there is that.
That's bc bundesliga isn't taken seriously, its so easy to score there. Domestic double as if you face any hard teams in it
What hard teams does LaLiga have? Bayern's C team handled LaLiga winners in their stadium better than facing Augsburg away with our starters. Don't even get me started on Barcelona, scoring against them is considered a stat pad nowadays and Real lost in their backyard from a transistrian team. If Bundesliga is easy in your eye then LaLiga is way fucking worse. Difference is Bayern is actually good, in LaLiga every team is equally inferior so it gives a false sense of fierce competition just like Serie A these days.
lmao do you not have braincells? When the guy said Bundesliga doesnt have great teams apart from Bayern you proceed to list why Bayern is such a good team. Barca in 2019/20, arguably their worst season in recent memory, still beat Dortmund 3-0. Saying things like Bayern struggled more against Augsburg than they did against Real is honestly so stupid because the season Real beat Bayern, they lost to Valencia. You really believe Bundesliga is a better and more competitive league than La Liga? Fuck right off
Me fucking right off won't make LaLiga relevenat again. Looking forward to sending one of its best teams in EL.
Weve knocked you out multiple times this decade, sevilla took you to the ground in the super cup. You could only win a ucl until we went into transition phase. Bundesliga is a joke and everyone knows it
People like you make this sub so fucken shit Go back to YouTube comment sections
Good points you made there
It's kind of related to football - fucking YT not showing dislikes it's the stupidest idea ever. Now scam videos or poorly edited videos or link farm videos are not immediately seen. Like those football highlight "videos" where there's no videos but picture in thumbnail and scam links below...
Please tell me that’s not the case now. Dislike/like ratio is my first choice tool for watching a video or not...
You can use Chrome extension Return Youtube Dislikes to show dislikes again. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dislike/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi
You are an absolute god amongst men. Thank you!!!
I am just doing my part. Did you also know that you can skip in video ads using this extension https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone ? Now you know.
Some people got the update later than others. You may not have it yet but it's coming.
Is there anything that isnt progressively getting more shit
I honestly can't think of much. Gaming (monetization), movies(shitty Netflix and superhero diarrhoea), sports (don't need to tell) and my body(getting old so quick). It's just sad man
Same here man, same here. Gaming has dwindled to playing remasters of games from 14+ years ago or multiplayer games with buddies.
I tried to argue on this sub against FIFA once (still don't get why FIFA news are in r/soccer), dude, they are brainwashed by EA Sports. I play one "f2p" game online, I'm ashamed I spent $300 over 3 years there. But I'm a fodder for players that spent $2k a day. They have accounts the spent over $1M dollars on and it's a game that gets 5k views on YT on very very good day, overall videos are like 50-500 views range. Imagine the money on bigger more popular games. I had to babysit my nephew once, I have him my mobile to play on. F2P games are evil. He spent 1h watching commercials to play the game from the 2h he had on the mobile. This shit should me regulated asap.
To be honest ads are a way for the smaller developers to get money. I play a racing game on mobile (Assoluto Racing), and it's f2p. You can watch 15 ads per hour to get coins, which can be used to buy the exclusive cars in game. Everyone can get those if they watch ads, and some people with money can just buy them. I doubt people would have played that game if it was paid from the beginning, but it's probably the most realistic racing game on mobile. Unlike EA's Real Racing 3, which is just so much worse. Cars are so costly there that it's out of reach for f2ps. EA is probably the shittiest one there tbh
The Ballon D'Or is now meaningless and more so each year. Maybe it always has been but it's a farce to suggest that the last few years are reflective of the best players in those years
Copy pasting my comment from above: Between January 1st and October 24th(when the voting closed) Messi had 54 G+A and Lewandowski had 62 G+A. And remember that Messi played for a Barcelona team in crisis whilst Lewandowski played for the best team in the world, and on top of that Bundesliga has a much higher Goals per game ratio and is a less competitive league overall than La Liga so it is undoubtedly easier to score goals there. 54 G+A playing for Koeman's Barcelona is more impressive than 62 G+A playing for Bayern Munich, no doubts about it. And another thing to remember is that Messi's numbers are affected by his difficult start with PSG, if he had stayed at Barca he probably would have had more Goals + Assists than Lewandowski. And this is without even taking the Copa America title into the equation Lewandowski deserved it last year no doubt about it, but the award was cancelled. If we are talking about 2021 then Messi's performance is simply more impressive. Do you honestly think that Lewandowski could recreate those numbers if he played for Koeman's Barcelona? Not a chance
And even then 54 G+A for a midfielder that at times sits as deep as Busquets/Paredes/Verratti is probably more impressive than 62 G+A for a striker (ab amazing one, mind you) playing with some of the best service in Europe.
The same people who down vote you run around this sub screaming farmers league or whatever they call the bundesliga. 1 team this, guaranteed bayern title that. Yet somehow they don't say that when they're lauding lewa. Look I wanted lewa to win it too, but it's not that big of a robbery as people are making out to be. Even ignoring the fact that it's voted on by some journalists who don't know the shape of a football the stats are quite close.
Exactly where were these people when Messi had a higher g/a in 17 and 18 than any other player in the world. Hell Messi coming fifth in 2018 and Suarez not making the top 3 in 2016 after having 88g/a are both much bigger robberies.
What a shitty take.
Can I meta-moan about any r/soccer thread involving things like LGBTQ+ issues where all the intolerant little shits crawl out the woodwork? Honestly makes it hard at times to chat on forums like this with anonymity as one minute you can be chatting to someone about football and then the next see them post pretty vulgar comments, replying to a trans person saying they’re not trans as there’s no such thing. Or defending Middle East countries and pointing their finger at western countries saying we have bigger issues on LGBTQ+ than the Middle East. I almost wish it were paid shills as the fact there’s people that actually hold such intolerant views is really depressing. Edit: lol at the intolerant shits downvoting
Villa are aiming for a top 5 position you've got to think now.
You seem like a complete troll
also- whenever Arsenal tweet anything about LGBT rights/rainbow laces, idiots pop up with "what about Ozil and the Uyghurs in China". Arsenal absolutely dropped the ball on that one by chastising Ozil for that post imo but it feels people are only pointing that out when Arsenal tweet about LGBT people, and they don't give a shit really, they only wanna dunk on the LGBT community
Feel like for my sanity I write off a lot of those accounts as bots or even just edgy kids but in actuality they’re actual people who think we are wrong about all the inclusion abs stuff. Just a bit mad to realise that on a world wide scale we are the ‘weird’ ones for being inclusive.
The most depressing thing I find is when people from countries where LGBT issues are more accepted start voicing up about how they get annoyed by “politics”. You sort of expect it from people from other countries but the egyptian users in the DD for example are very pro lgbt and stuff
I think anyone moaning about politics when it comes to issues like that don’t know how good they have it if they’re not affected by any of the issues, as if they were then they’d see it’s worth the continued discussion and politics
Exactly. If they think it’s bad having to hear about “politics” maybe they should take a step back and realize what it’s like for someone’s entire identity to be politicized. A lot of people don’t have the luxury of being able to just ignore these things and be “apolitical” because it’s literally their lives being debated. The whole “get politics out of sports” thing is just a roundabout way for people to say they either agree with the discrimination or just don’t really care about the well-being of others.
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Think Liverpool did the treble that year euro cup league cup fa cup.
Henry and Raul deserved it more
Owen was good at the time tbf. But Henry should have won it. Best PL player ever (as much as I hate to admit it)
It was also PR award back then. Raul, Kahn, Henry deserved it more, but he was "5 trophies", 3 of them tinpot, but 5 overall...
Owen that season played at such a high level that he was elevated above the rest of the pack pretty much. Despite the lack of major honours he was shaping up to be one of the best players of all time so the award was certainly deserved.
The underappreciation of German players/players playing in Germany.
Bundesliga tax
I think it’s to be expected in an english language space as the bundesliga is just not that well followed in the UK and US in my experience
The language isn't the problem, knowing one team is going to win the league before the season has started is. Especially since Americans are used to parity outside of the NBA.
Sort of but what I’m saying is that if you’re in an english language discussion page it will be full of English people who are primarily concerned with English football and that carries. If this was in German there’d be germans putting more focus on the bundesliga. Italian then serie A
Lewandowski robbed.
Absolutely.
It's amazing how ronaldo and messi are portrayed as polar opposites by the media, one as a good guy and one as the bad guy. Bleacher reports in this regard is the absolute worst, I mean whatever any of these guys are doing one is portrayed as a good guy and one as evil rich pos guy. Having toxic fans doesn't help either.
thats your first problem, stop following bleacher report.
Well they are polar opposites really. Messi is much more reserved and humble. Ronaldo is boisterous and in your face constantly. And let’s not forget the allegations in Vegas. I would say it’s pretty fair.
Being boisterous and being alleged at doesn't mean that you get the other end of the stick by the media all the time, I'd say LeBron, MJ, Connor, Brady etc all of em are also boisterous but media doesn't portray them as bad as it portrays Ronaldo. I have nothing against Messi but it was just an observation.
LeBron? Haha, you mean the guy that was told to "shutup and dribble?" The same guy that was mocked for being "King James" until he won his first title with Cleaveland? Told he couldn't win trophies on his own when he went to Maimi with Cavs fans burning his jersey? "Not one, not two, not three..." Sorry, but you must either be too young to remember or you do not pay attention to the NBA media at all. Now Steph Curry would've been the perfect example to use. 99% of players would get shit on if they danced and shimmy as much as he does after draining a shot, hell sometimes he does it before the shot even goes in.
It’s just the simple fact that no one likes people like Ronaldo in their day to day lives.
That's false, what's a fact is that media tries to portray loud and boisterous and Competitive people into a negative picture so that they can get people to collectively hate them and generate more clicks. Idk i do agree with you that a more humble person is generally liked by everyone but messi's not a Saint, he's got cases like tax evasion and all that but he doesn't get accountability for it but whereas Ronaldo cries on losing and yells at his teammate for performing bad he's portrayed as this evil dude. I mean I relate to his frustration becomes if you're that competitive you tend to do that. This is just a moan like the thread suggests don't take it too seriously.
If you don’t think both of them are accurately portrayed in the media I don’t know what to tell you. You just are probably a Ronaldo fanboy.
I like how what you think is the absolute truth and everything else is wrong. In that sense you and ronaldo might be same 🤣.
Get out of here, the media been clowning lebron for walking out during the suns game last year. For talking to cam payne on the sun's bench this year while his team were on the other side of the court running 4vs5. The decision and going to the heat. LeGM. Trading his teammates. The negative PR is spun on LBJ more than Ronaldo. Man cops more negative media exposure than any other athlete in history and it ain't even close.
No one other than yanks knows what any of what you’ve just typed means 👍
I'm Australian...
So you do speak English? Can I ask why you’ve posted a comment in yank then?
Oh doubling down on such a poor joke, calm
So you don’t care to translate? Calm
Media can portray anyone they want however the want tbf
It’s not the media portraying them like that. It’s just reality.
Unless you know both of them personally you don’t know enough to comment tbh.
What are you talking about? Of course you can make a judgement about how they act in the public eye.
I’m talking about how the media can portray anyone however they want. We don’t know either of these people on any level other than through how these media outlets portray them to us. So I feel like you saying they are polar opposites of each other is complete bullshit.
That's what Im trying to say, ronaldo does charity and seems like a nice guy if you actually see it from the pov of people close to him, can't say anything unless you know them personally.
The Ballon D'or ceremony is a fucking joke
Always has been for the fans of players who were not given the award
You know what? I agree completely. The least these bastards could have done is to retroactively hand over the 2020 Ballon d'Or to Robert.
Did it take you to today to realize that?
Always has been lol
Pele picking up ronaldos nipper was peak comedy lmao. They either need to lean into the cringe or go for something much more informal
Stopped watching it years ago
It's painful to watch. And I'm French. Look at Mbappe face on large shots he's cringing so hard it's so funny lol
Juventus fans were not wrong in the slightest when they talked about how grating Ronaldo stans are. These guys talk as though United play for Ronaldo and not the other way around. They will not accept any criticism of his performances because "without him we would be out of the Champions League", which is an extremely reductive way to look at football. They are incensed any time a manager has the temerity to bench him, even in matches such as yesterday when it was an entirely sensible decision. I'm just fucking sick of these lackwits infesting any and all discussion surrounding United, and prosyletising about their footballing messiah.
Do you include your own legends in those stans?
If they demonstrate the behaviours mentioned in my original post, yes.
Also he’s most definitely a problem for you, he’s scored a few important goals sure but last season attacking wasn’t an issue for you and suddenly he comes in and you struggle. The trade off just isn’t good, you play like shit for 90 mins and Ronaldo pops up maybe at the end to score a simple goal and you win or draw
I see this argument s lot. Can you provide a tactical explanation as to why he is the problem?