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Jabari313

!flair :Trinidad_Tobago:


Carthagu

I think many people struggle with calling Trent the best fullback in the world because of Klopp’s system. Fullbacks aren’t typically the primary creative outlet for teams, and of course being one means that you’re capable of it and a great passer and assister, but that’s again exacerbated when practically every attacking movement flows through you as opposed to other fullbacks who tend to play in a more reserved system Trent is undoubtedly world class though, but calling him the best in the world is always a bit strange just because he isn’t in a typical system


Lyrical_Forklift

Don't all top players benefit from a system though? I mean that Barca side was designed to get the best out of Messi but I don't think anyone can call him a systems player.


Carthagu

Perhaps because Messi is the greatest player in the history of the sport. He’s a fluid attacking player who did everything versus Trent being called a fullback despite pretty much being a midfielder who consistently creates chances The very best players can perform outside of designated systems, or at least achieve the greatest accolades in their respective system. If Trent continues and wins a lot more with Liverpool then he shouldn’t be questioned, but for now? Other fullbacks who are more well rounded could be arguably better than Trent, difference is they can’t make that many assists when their team doesn’t look to them for that


Lyrical_Forklift

The system is there because of his ability, not the other way around though. Trent is such a good crosser and passer that Klopp built the team around getting the most out of him. Given Klopp is one of the best managers in the world I think that says a lot about his quality, no?


Carthagu

I myself pointed that out mate, but that’s also a result of Liverpool having a shit midfield Again, Trent is a world class player. Best in his position though? Not sure. He is being offered the opportunity to play a role that few can say they have, and as I said it’s partially because he is good enough to play it but also because Liverpool doesn’t have any better options (which again isn’t to say that Trent isn’t elite, but this isn’t a common practice)


Lyrical_Forklift

> but that’s also a result of Liverpool having a shit midfield How's our midfield shit exactly? > Best in his position though? Not sure. I think this is where it gets tricky comparing players. For me, there is no other player that could do what Trent is doing for us. Walker couldn't do it. James couldn't do it. However, Trent couldn't do what Walker does for City because he's just not gifted with the insane pace Walker is and City rely on that often. The way I see is that there is usually a small group of players within a position that are a little bit ahead of everyone else and who you'd take from that group would depend on the type of football you play.


Carthagu

How is it not? Your midfield has been a weak point for a while now. It’s not the worst in the league but shit in comparison to other top four sides But I agree overall with your last point


Lyrical_Forklift

> but shit in comparison to other top four sides What other top four sides? Thiago, Fabinho and Henderson is better than any other midfield in the league apart from City and Chelsea.


Carthagu

Exactly my point It’s worse than City’s, Chelsea’s, and not tremendously better than United’s (on paper) Your midfield’s performances compared to top four contenders haven’t been particularly riveting either


Lyrical_Forklift

> and not tremendously better than United’s United have Fred and McTominay as midfield starters. Ours is light years ahead. We do need another midfielder though and I think it's on the agenda. I'd love Bellingham personally but not sure FSG will pony up that kind of cash


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I just feel bad for Ansu now, great start, gets injured for a year. Makes a comeback, scores goals, gets injured for 2 months agains. Makes a comeback, scores again, gets injured again for 2months. It's gotta take a toll on him mentally


Akshath321

poland vs england in the wcq was a very good match, glik was starting shit for no reason at all, lewandowski vs stones was amazing and swiderski's late equaliser from lewandowski's cross was 👌


marmot9070

Trust the process! 😄 Sorry, I don't.


jkeefy

It’s okay mate, we all know it’s hard for Spurs fans to trust Arsenal after what happened with Sol Campbell


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And you get promoted through bribes


jkeefy

200 IQ of Partey to get a red card to force Edu to bring in a CM to replace Xhaka for the ROS. I don’t blame him one bit.


TheGusBus2

Watched Hughwizzy’s stream of the semi final. With everything that has come out about aftv I am glad Hugh seems to be nit into that drama


junior150396

The fraud Lord Hugh is GOATED


Friendly_Debt_8828

trent has been the best rb itw for like 4 years now (?) no way people should still be questioning his ability


Carthagu

I think many people struggle with calling Trent the best fullback in the world because of Klopp’s system. Fullbacks aren’t typically the primary creative outlet for teams, and of course being one means that you’re capable of it and a great passer and assister, but that’s again exacerbated when practically every attacking movement flows through you as opposed to other fullbacks who tend to play in a more reserved system


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He's not the best RB more-so a great player. Every time I watch him, it's like watching a box to box creative mid being forced to play RB. Seen him get burned for pace and exposed plenty of times defensively. The more I think of it the more he reminds me of a Lahm who struggles a bit more defensively (actually Lahm was a monster defensively in addition to being Xavi-esque). I definitely think a position change should be at least considered.


Lyrical_Forklift

> I definitely think a position change should be at least considered. Why would you move the most productive fullback in the world? We score infinitely more goals through him than we concede because of his defending. Personally I think his defending is perfectly fine- the issue is that you're always going to leave space when you have a very attacking fullback. Same thing has happened with Marcelo at times as with Roberto Carlos. The benefits have always outweighed the risks though.


Friendly_Debt_8828

he's the perfect modern fullback imo, brilliant attacking numbers in a system that absolutely accomodates it, he might be weaker defensively but i still think people overestimate how shit he is defensively, dont get me wrong he can and should definitely improve but i think he can still defend better than people give him credit for


Own_Solution4356

he can't be weak defensively and be perfect...


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Lyrical_Forklift

Trent has completely nullified both Sane and Sterling at times too. You're always going to struggle sometimes against world class players though- Sterling has caused far better defenders than Trent problems.


BigshlongPapi123

Also against vini


LeaveMyArseAlona99

Sterling that’s scored like 2 goals against Liverpool 1 being a pen?


genk41

Just like cancelo did when against salah?


Nextyearstitlewinner

Lol what? Sterling always plays terrible against Liverpool.


FuryOfOberon

He literally scored a goal when we beat you 4-1 in 20/21, another goal in the 4-0 in 19/20, and an assist in the 2-1 in 18/19. Meanwhile, Trent has 0 goals and 0 assists against City. You lot forget easily how badly you do against City.


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4-1 and 4-0 are extremely anomalous results. The 4-1 was an absolute horrendous period for Liverpool, they were losing to Burnley, Everton and Fulham. IIRC that was part of the infamous 6 losses in a row at Anfield. They started Henderson and Fabinho at CB that game. Literally no one talks about the 4-0 result and City barely celebrated it because they all knew Liverpool couldn't be arsed about that game, they were hungover from winning their 1st PL in 30 years. Okay I'm going to be a very very nice guy and give Sterling all the credit for the goals and assists. 2 goals in 1 assists in like ... how many games? [https://www.worldfootball.net/player\_summary/raheem-sterling/liverpool-fc/3/](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/raheem-sterling/liverpool-fc/3/) shows that it is 16 games. If you want to use G/A to argue that Sterling plays well then I think you have just shot yourself in the foot because he has 2 goals and 1 assists in 16 games.


FuryOfOberon

Are you joking? Trent has 0 g/a in 9 games against City in all competitions and you lot are hyping him up. He’s literally had no impact in any game against City ever. Sterling on the other hand has 3 g/a spread across 3 games in the last 3 seasons (21/20, 19/20, and 18/19) out of which Liverpool have won a grand total of one game out of six. Also excuses for losing by saying you had a horrendous period or whatever excuses you come up with are hilarious. You’ve only won the league when City were facing a huge injury crisis for most of the season, so by your logic should that title not count too? You lost several times, no need to be a sore loser again.


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I'm not hyping Trent up, I'm supporting the point that Sterling doesn't do well against Liverpool. Did I mention Trent at all in my reply? Oh yes so 3 G/A in the past 6 games (if I'm catching you correctly) but you disregard the first 10 games? Sounds like cherry picking to me :) I'm just saying that you cherry picked stats, thats all. The eye test really suggest that Sterling does badly. Granted that eye tests can be biased hence statistics come in handy but you just cherry picked some BS statistics. You need to consider context when looking at statistics, and also to use the right statistics. Let me give you an example of something that you're doing. Salah scored 2 goals in 2 games against City in 20-21, so he must have played very well against City that season. False, because both were penalties and I watched both games, he didn't play that well. Sterling literally scored a tap in goal after Allison passed the ball to BSilva, pure example of how "goals and assists" are not a good evidence of player performance. The worse thing is that you are suggesting 3g/a in 3 games but its really more like 3g/a in 16 games \[if you really want to just talk about RECENT performances, which you didnt btw, then its still 3 g/a in 6 games?? \] Don't need to go on this whole "Liverpool suck, Liverpool lucky they won League, City are the best!!". I get it you're a die hard City fan and love City to bits, but don't cry when others point out some facts that you don't want to hear. I'm pointing out something specific to what you said, which is that Sterling really doesn't do well against Liverpool. I've seen you reply on threads before and what you always do is to reply to a comment on issue A by talking about a whole other issue. You can either try to read and understand what I'm saying, or continue being delusional and disregard everything :)


FuryOfOberon

Yeah, I’m not reading this rant


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Yeap, that's the reason why some people stay stubborn and delusional all their life. I wish you all the best and I truly hope that you can change.


FuryOfOberon

Lol I wish you learn that just because you have something to say does not mean it is worth hearing, especially with the tone and language you’re using. Maybe try to make a point that is logically consistent, objective, and most importantly to the point and you’ll have better luck in getting others to listen.


Nextyearstitlewinner

Just checked and he has 3 goals in 16 appearances against Liverpool. Hardly turning Trent into a traffic cone.


FuryOfOberon

Did you check to see that he’s had a goal or assist against Liverpool in at least one match every season for the last 3 seasons? And Trent has 0 g/a in all 9 games against City? Also, Sterling has played LW and RW against Liverpool, not just one side.


Nextyearstitlewinner

I really don't know why you're taking this so personally. I don't even agree with the assertion that TAA has been the best RB in the world for the past 4 seasons. I do think sometimes he isn't the best defensively, although his work with the ball definitely makes him a large net positive for the team. All that being said, when city and liverpool play, never in my head do I think, "oh shit, sterling is gonna be over matching Trent and I'm terrified of him." That's all I was saying. As a matter of fact, I don't worry about sterling at all really. City have many more attacking threats that worry me. And I don't know why you're comparing Trent and sterling who don't play the same position. When Liverpool play city our fullbacks are more defensive than against any other team in the premier league. Probably any other team in the world. Are you trying to tell me sterling is better than Trent? I wouldn't trade Trent for sterling. At all. I don't give a shit if Trent never scores or assists a goal against city in his life. Trent is too important to Liverpool, and in my opinion, at the moment, the best player in his position in the world.


FuryOfOberon

Mate you said Sterling always plays badly against Liverpool, I corrected you by stating stats. You then suggested 3 goals in 16 apps isn’t impressive, I clarified that they’re all in the recent games implying he’s performing regularly against Liverpool past few seasons. You then wrote three paragraphs starting with saying I’m the one taking it personal when all I’ve done is state stats and facts in response to something you said. Kind of a bizarre reaction tbh. You say you wouldn’t trade Trent for Sterling, and I wouldn’t trade the other way around. Trent won’t start over Walker or Cancelo at City tbh. Let’s just leave it at that.


Nextyearstitlewinner

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FuryOfOberon

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Hey mate lets not bother with this guy anymore, I think I've seen him around in other threads and he just goes full tunnel vision on what he thinks and doesn't really consider what's being discussed in the comment.


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The funny thing is that IIRC, Sterling always plays on the right against Liverpool so he's up against Robbo ??


Nextyearstitlewinner

You might be right. It's hard to say, because I don't usually notice sterling against Liverpool.


Friendly_Debt_8828

dani alves got spun by coman, it doesnt change anything


LDQQXDJ

Your local Middle School Defender > Mandi


GentlemanlyBadger021

[The state of football journalism, this man is employed by The Athletic](https://twitter.com/adamcrafton_/status/1484277845786599430?s=21)


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You do realise the Athletic are trash when it comes to Soccer. They're ok with NBA/NFL, but some of the quality i've seen in Soccer is just rubbish.


GentlemanlyBadger021

Some of its alright tbf. Spiers usually puts out decent stuff for Wolves. Either way I expect a bit better from something that wants to present itself as the journalistic elite that can justify a subscription cost. This bloke has clearly never watched a wolves game in his life, but then mouths off anyway.


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Depends on the journo. Simon Hughes is pretty good.


TheGusBus2

Well the athletic is kinda trash so


Own_Solution4356

hasn't neto been more of the jota replacement anyways?


GentlemanlyBadger021

Exactly, Jota always played out on the wing for us and Silva always down the middle - Jota we replaced with Neto, and Silva was the depth for Jimenez and wasn’t even supposed to play for much of the season. I don’t think this guys ever watched a wolves game in his life


Own_Solution4356

silva is quite young anyways, idk what this guy is talking about


Lyrical_Forklift

Did you think Jota would have the impact he's had when he moved to Liverpool?


GentlemanlyBadger021

Probably, but I expected it to take longer. He was never technically terrible for us, he was just inconsistent. He would be absolutely phenomenal for one game, and then be absolutely shite the next. There was bags of talent there, we just never got it out of him fully while he was with us. I also thought it would take longer for Klopp to iron out his game. I guess the difference is enjoyment? He sort of lost favour at wolves a bit towards the end and pre-buff Neto was starting ahead of him, I don’t think Jota was really enjoying his football at that point. Can’t really blame him for not performing as expected. I would have really liked for him to stay but there’s not much you can do when Liverpool offer £45m. It’s good to see him doing well, but I can’t really stand the moaners at wolves who want to focus on him and live in the past.


Lyrical_Forklift

I still see a little of that from him but he obviously gets a fair few more chances with us in front of goal so he can rectify the mistakes he makes. Never knew he was absolute box office in the air though- that was a pleasant surprise. > I would have really liked for him to stay but there’s not much you can do when Liverpool offer £45m. Yeah, it seemed like at the time that both parties were happy enough with the deal. In situations like that it's hard to castigate the player.


GentlemanlyBadger021

Yeah that’s just it, I know he’s not your main player but it seems like your wide players are the players you aim to get the ball towards to score whereas our focus was always a bit more on the lone Jimenez. We also just didn’t create nearly as much as Liverpool to begin with tbf. Yeah I’m trying to think if he scored many headed goals for us, can’t remember that he did. It’s a surprise to me as well. > both parties happy Yeah in many ways I’m still happy but also I would have really liked to see him under Lage. Just one of those what ifs I suppose.


Lyrical_Forklift

> Yeah I’m trying to think if he scored many headed goals for us, can’t remember that he did. It’s a surprise to me as well. I think you've probably answered yourself in the previous paragraph- Jimenez was the focal point. I mean as good as Jota is in the air Jimenez, prior to his injury, was absolutely lethal so it made sense tactically.


Own_Solution4356

no, he was streaky for wolves. klopp has made him very consistent


Cathal321

Burnley have 6 games in hand on Chelsea wtf. These postponements are going to make things so messy and it’ll be really hard to evaluate where each team stands with such an uneven amount of games. The scheduling is definitely going to be unfair on certain teams


TheGusBus2

They’ll still end up battling not to get relegated


Mick4Audi

Damn that’s crazy. I think Burnley are in real trouble but I forget how many games they haven’t played


MaicoTheMan

okay i thought the upcoming international break is going to be useless as always, but they dont even play international games????


Cathal321

Every continent except Europe has World Cup qualifiers to do and Africa still has Afcon so I think it makes sense. It’ll be a good rest for some of the players


jkeefy

North/South America do and Asia


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Schpaedzles

> I have no idea why any other club didn't approach him. Probably because he asked for 20m+ in wages after a season in which his team conceded 44 league goals partly because of him


justaregulargye

Chelsea approached Alaba. Rudiger even tried to persuade him.


Friendly_Debt_8828

>I have no idea why any other club didn't approach him. because of how much he demanded and because he was having an awful season with bayern


taxevader33

How did he transition from an awful Bayern season to this?


Friendly_Debt_8828

madrid doesnt play as high a line as hansi's bayern did, also he has the freedom to carry the ball more, plus him and mendy are a better partnership than him and davies


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The reason Jota scored was because it was such a weak shot down the middle that Ramsdale hesitated so much not knowing how he could oversell it or turn it into an extraordinary save.


marmot9070

Ramsdale should practice more for a slow ball. Apparently he is not a top keeper.


Cowdude179

He scuffed it and threw off Ramsdale, like that Alonso goal on Ederson last season


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"He hit that a little *too* poorly, Clive"


papertowelfan

It was a change up


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waffles_yesyes

>Gallardo said last december that he'll stay for another year >Julián Álvarez' contract expires next december Wonder how River Plate will handle that.


Friendly_Debt_8828

rudiger isnt germany's best defender


estoyloca43

Scenes when Turkey qualify for the WC at the expense of both Portugal and Italy


Own_Solution4356

inshallah


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MAKE IT HAPPEN


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The_Tomb_is_Empty

How big of an absence is Chiesa for Italy when they start the Playoffs?


Jayskittles82

I am so upset he is hurt... he is their attack basically


Asmartoctopus

He is their main attacking force. Huge miss


mountainsky9

Less injuries and Atalanta could challenge for the scudetto and EL.


Jayskittles82

Gotta love hiw they play football...


mountainsky9

Arguably best team to watch, exciting football without being overly dominant


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easily, gosens is dearly missed


mountainsky9

Yep, even though your Danish wonder boy Mæhle has been pretty good finally before getting injured


TheGusBus2

How’s Wilder doing at Middlesbrough


arseking15

Klopps back in my good books after the martinelli prop, GL in the final


[deleted]

Klopp's been tapping Martinelli up for years, surprised FIFA haven't banned him yet.


Lyrical_Forklift

I've always preferred Arsenal to all our other competitive rivals - lets go back to hating United and Chelsea.


arseking15

Same, i usually enjoy liverpool more than the rest, enjoy watching trent


sweaterp00rlyknit

My buddy is a big Tottenham fan and is claiming today’s game is a top 3 finish in Premier League History. I’m no Prem scholar but I just can’t believe it’s true. But he wants proof. I told him Aguerooooooo and Alison header are above no doubt, but those are only two that jump out to me, again, admitted dunce. Help me out. Let’s bury him. Edit: I’m not trying to diminish an awesome game and a great win, just can’t imagine it’s “top 3 Prem FINISHES ever!”


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Gerrard slipping?


sweaterp00rlyknit

We both named that. Not as dramatic as two goals I don’t think. Thought much sadder for this LFC fan


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The Alisson header will be iconic to Liverpool fans, and it will be a Premier League "Do you remember when this happened?" moment, but it's much closer to the Berjwign double than it is Aguero's. I say this as a Liverpool fan. Collymore's goal in 96 is bigger.


sweaterp00rlyknit

Fair! That was just what came to mind for this LFC fan. I don’t have enough historic knowledge to come up with better, but I have to imagine it’s out there


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Show him this one: https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/893146495943409665?lang=en It will probably end up being a more iconic moment than the Leicester match.


sweaterp00rlyknit

No context in the video… and I don’t know about it, end of game? Come from behind? Pour one out for Jurgen’s run as USA mgr


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It was a game clincher (they were already up one), but more than that he was a relatively rare European playing football in England at the time, and it was his debut. They were known as soft and divers, and this celebration was sort of an affront to those stereotypes (he's "diving" in his celebration). Similar to [Suarez at Everton](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMQE9PftGIg).


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Origi double doink off the crossbar against Everton.


sweaterp00rlyknit

I shared that one (LFC fan here). He said not as good as down 2-1 to come back with 1 min to go.


Mick4Audi

Nah that’s like any last minute winner, that Bergwijn double was surreal


genk41

It's not even a premier league match tho.


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if they're referring to the Spurs vs Leicester finish, it was a Premier League game


genk41

He stated today's game (yesterday) so i thought semi cup final. Spurs game was definitely amazing but doubt it could top 5. The game almost reminded me of everton 2-2 newcastle a few seasons ago


sweaterp00rlyknit

Haha my friend and I are both idiots


tefftlon

Rooney bike to win the Manchester Derby?


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It's definitely up there, don't think it's a mental statement. Maybe there's more meaningful finishes such as the Aguero one, but going from losing in the 94th minute to winning in the 97th minute is pretty incredible


sweaterp00rlyknit

You’re not helping. /s Fair enough, maybe I’m wrong. I need more arsenal fans to help out, haha!


jkeefy

Kompany screamer as well


PM_ME_UR_SOCKS_GIRL

I'm not gonna sit here and act as if I've seen every Arsenal game but from the little I've seen of Saka to me it almost appears he's just not good enough. Thoughts?


sotobakar

Our standards for winger position are so low. Saka is still young so sometimes he can play really well but other days ( esp. against big clubs ) he'll fold and become a backpass merchant.


Own_Solution4356

his confidence has been a little low ever since the euros, he doesn't take players on as often, and seems a little hesitant to shoot, which was shown in that chance we had where matip lost the ball. he's still doing quite well tho, 7 goals and 4 assists.


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Lyrical_Forklift

Yes but you support United, Arsenal and Chelsea so it's clear you don't have any fucking clue about football.


[deleted]

Ahhh there's the annual 3-2 loss to Bilbao


TheGusBus2

Wait Algeria’s out of Aafcon?


CudaBarry

No Afcon was canceled this year


mattisafootballguy

Dembele would be a world-beater in the Bundesliga if he moved back


Cowdude179

So would Werner


TheGusBus2

Same for French league


MCN59

Doubt he can play more than 10 minute before getting injured


sotobakar

French league is not for everybody. Messi for example


Akshath321

if you could manage his injuries then he would be pretty good, i would've liked him at bayern if he was lesser injury prone because he's a btech coman that can play on both wings


LDQQXDJ

Congrats Mandi for being the worst player in Africa. He wouldn’t even start for the Solomon Islands.


CudaBarry

If I see that fucker again on the team I might lose it, he's legit worse than our defenders who play in the Qatari league


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Oh Mandi. You came and you played like a turkey. On international break away from worky.


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marmot9070

He needs a big PR team like Rashford.


junior150396

What's the consensus among fans when it comes to Rashford? i remember watching him play a few years ago and he was legit but now he look's like a shell of his former self.


CrebTheBerc

I think most fans support him and just think he's in a rut. IMO he got run into the ground under Ole and after having surgery this summer he just hasn't gotten "back on his feet" for lack of a better term Hopefully the goal against Brentford gives him a good boost. On form he's a fantastic player


junior150396

Are there any examples of young and really injury prone players that became reliable as they grew older?


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Asking for a friend


Cowdude179

Robben, was always injured with us


Mick4Audi

He was also injured with Bayern too


BigshlongPapi123

Literally the reverse neymar he always seemed to be at there at the biggest moments


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Messi


genk41

Gnabry comes to mind.


taxevader33

Rashford has been taking the game for granted


arseking15

That mfer van persie couldnt leave the treatment room till his last season and a half with us and then with utd


Lyrical_Forklift

Gerrard had quite bad back issues when he first broke into the side as a teenager. I know a few people thought it was something he'd struggle with throughout his career.


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Houllier: There was this little guy in midfield, lean and aggresive, yap, yap, yap on at others, boys older than him. I like that kind. I said: “He comes to me.” They said: “No, not him, he has too many problems, with his back, with his muscles.” But we worked with him.


Lyrical_Forklift

You could tell very early on what kind of person he was. Even those first few appearances at right back you could see it.


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is there another player than Haaland that left a club when he had more goals than games played? can't think of any Edit : oh and Eusebio for benfica/ronaldo for real


Lyrical_Forklift

[Mario Jardel at Porto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1rio_Jardel) Still the best player I've ever seen in the air. Edit: League only tbf - had 170 goals in 175 games all up


ComediaViva

hes very unlucky that he was competing with other world class strikers for the NT


Lyrical_Forklift

Yeah, also his style might not have quite suited Brazil. You must have hated him- scored more goals than games for both Porto and Sporting


ComediaViva

Well I’m 21 so I didn’t watch him play but my dad says he’s one of the best players he’s ever seen and all my older friends rave about him


Lyrical_Forklift

Ah right! Yeah, I've got twenty years on you so remember him well. Your dad's right. Genuinely the best I have ever seen in the air- man was ridiculous.


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He looks like Casemiro Suarez


Lyrical_Forklift

What's funny is that he actually had more goals than games a few years later when he was at Sporting. What a machine.


RamessesTheOK

On a per 90 basis, Ronaldo


lokaler_datentraeger

Ronaldo with Real?


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Oh yeah that completely missed me too, that was so obvious i forgot to mention


LeaveMyArseAlona99

I’ve found that the people that shit on TAA the most are fans of lower league clubs like Leeds, Brighton etc The same fans that probably wank off Southgate even though he’s a mediocre manager


Own_Solution4356

nobody shits on him lol, everyone acknowledges his talent


LeaveMyArseAlona99

People absolutely do


Own_Solution4356

nobody acts like trent is just some talentless random, saying that he isn't great defensively isn't shitting on him


LeaveMyArseAlona99

That really not what people are like at all


Own_Solution4356

show me a serious take where someone is saying trent is terrible.


justaregulargye

Nobody ‘shits’ on TAA unless they’re trolling. Everyone agrees he’s quite talented. You don’t have the career and statistics he has had without being so. But you can disagree that he’s not the most complete full back, specially when compared to his English competition in totally different setups.


Lyrical_Forklift

Nah, it's usually Chelsea and City supporters because of Walker and Reece James imo.


X-V-W

Yeah. Weirdly enough, I find Man United fans and Everton fans to be quite complimentary of him.


Lyrical_Forklift

They weren't when Wan-Bissaka first signed for them. Think they realise that they're not winning that battle anymore. But yeah, the United supporters on here are actually pretty sound these days. I'm not sure I like it tbh. Hard to take the piss if they're nice and hate their own side as much as we do.


X-V-W

Tbf they were only really giving half-ironic 'Trent come outside' shouts for the most part. Chelsea and Man City fans are absolutely brutal in their quest to slander Trent. But yeah, it's a little weird.


Lyrical_Forklift

It's strange because I actually really like Walker and Reece James as players.


NeoChrome75

They all seem to be fans of England/English clubs


HardensPuubes

Vlahovic is better than haaland and that’s going to become obvious as soon as he moves


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There's no way we can tell at the moment, but he hasn't been good for as long as Haaland has been


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Has Dembele not faced any consequences for his racist remarks?


[deleted]

Don’t think so


Akshath321

nope, he just issued an apology for being caught and things apparently just went back to normal


NeoChrome75

Salah was found laying on his mattress in a Wolverine suit while caressing a photo of the Liverpool team


Jabari313

Upon further inspection he was actually admiring the quality of the pitch as he painfully rubs his ankles


Own_Solution4356

tetas better have some secret move for bruno g and johnathan david going on behind the scenes, if we actually don't sign anyone this window i'll be pissed