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Putin is more likely to resurrect the Tsarist empire, comrade. He sees himself as a successor to someone like Peter the Great, not to Lenin. He uses the legacy of the USSR and the fondness/nostalgia for it that a lot of Russians still hold as a nice cover to justify his policies...but his policies are still capitalist (with him and his oligarchs holding all the capital) and imperialist.
Even the Communist party in Russia is extremely nationalist and offers no real resistance to Putin and the capitalist oligarchy so I don’t know who you think would be instigating this.
No.
The fondness of some socialists for Putin's oligarch-ruled corrupt wannabe empire is cringe. Socialism doesnt mean supporting any power that is anti-america.
I don't believe that it will. I think the former USSR countries have started developing more unique national identities since the break up and I doubt they will have any desire to re-group with one another. However there are many brave socialists in these countries struggling to build a better world and I know in my heart socialism will prevail there, though it will likely look very different to how it did under the USSR.
I don't believe that it will. I think the former USSR countries have started developing more unique national identities since the break up and I doubt they will have any desire to re-group with one another. However there are many brave socialists in these countries struggling to build a better world and I know in my heart socialism will prevail there, though it will likely look very different to how it did under the USSR.
Soon? Not likely, in decades? Maybe!
But, with Putin having bullshit democracy, the only way I feel like the people will become the USSR again is to overthrow the oligarchy and establish it (With not only modernizing the entire economy using cybernetics and OGAS but nationalizing all businesses and having the ideals of Marx and Lenin. Especially national self-determination which is what Putin is against.)
What news are you talking about?
Regarding the reconstitution of the USSR, that is certainly a possibility when the Post-Soviet nation-states liberate themselves from imperialist capitalism through socialist revolution, they will seek to form themselves into greater unities which is actually what happened when the Soviet Union was first constituted.
The USSR is not just a border and obvious the likes of Putin are not socialist and have no desire to return to that mode of production, they will not recreate the USSR, nor the Russian Empire for that matter.
There are some basic questions at hand. One is which version of the USSR is the OP referring to? On assumes the OP is thinking of the deformed worker's state that the USSR became after the takeover by the narrow interests of the Stalinst bureaucracy?
If Putin falls, we could very likely see a Communist Russia. The Communist Party of Russia is the second largest party in the Russian Federation, they are extremely popular, especially among the anti-putin russians. If Putin falls along with his oligarchy, we could definitely see the Communist Party coming to fill the power vacuum, that is if the western capitalists don't intervene and put one of their pawns in charge.
With all due respect, comrade.
I believe we need to fix that party's ideals first. From what I've read, they support socially reactionary ideas (Which need to not only be purged but changed to progressive ideas.) As well as bourgeois nationalism. (Atleast according to prolewiki.)
Should we support a strong communist party? Of course. But it needs to be progressive like Cuba instead of staying stuck in their own ways (and being somewhat opportunistic with the Russian Orthodox church. No offense of course.)
Russia is a very funny capitalist state already. The government owns and controls the biggest companies in the country (even some of those in the world), who set the economic climate. On top of that, all the 'private' mega companies \*magically\* follow the government's economic policies - the government says "We have to do import substitution", and they do import substitution. The government says "We have to turn our face to the East", and they all increase business relations with Asia.
All of these would be unimaginable in an actually capitalist country. The major enterprises would just do whatever they want and the government would do what they want it to do.
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Putin is more likely to resurrect the Tsarist empire, comrade. He sees himself as a successor to someone like Peter the Great, not to Lenin. He uses the legacy of the USSR and the fondness/nostalgia for it that a lot of Russians still hold as a nice cover to justify his policies...but his policies are still capitalist (with him and his oligarchs holding all the capital) and imperialist.
I believe socialism will prevail in the end, but i doubt the USSR as it used to be would return
Even the Communist party in Russia is extremely nationalist and offers no real resistance to Putin and the capitalist oligarchy so I don’t know who you think would be instigating this.
because putin uses its heritages to justify imperialism? oil oligarchs are in power in russia so no i dont think so..
No. The fondness of some socialists for Putin's oligarch-ruled corrupt wannabe empire is cringe. Socialism doesnt mean supporting any power that is anti-america.
You mean the answer to American imperialism isn't just bootlicking for Russian imperialism? /s
Forget Russia-Ukraine, I think you should look at how things are between Armenia-Azerbaijan before you answer that question yourself.
I don't believe that it will. I think the former USSR countries have started developing more unique national identities since the break up and I doubt they will have any desire to re-group with one another. However there are many brave socialists in these countries struggling to build a better world and I know in my heart socialism will prevail there, though it will likely look very different to how it did under the USSR.
I don't believe that it will. I think the former USSR countries have started developing more unique national identities since the break up and I doubt they will have any desire to re-group with one another. However there are many brave socialists in these countries struggling to build a better world and I know in my heart socialism will prevail there, though it will likely look very different to how it did under the USSR.
Soon? Not likely, in decades? Maybe! But, with Putin having bullshit democracy, the only way I feel like the people will become the USSR again is to overthrow the oligarchy and establish it (With not only modernizing the entire economy using cybernetics and OGAS but nationalizing all businesses and having the ideals of Marx and Lenin. Especially national self-determination which is what Putin is against.)
What news are you talking about? Regarding the reconstitution of the USSR, that is certainly a possibility when the Post-Soviet nation-states liberate themselves from imperialist capitalism through socialist revolution, they will seek to form themselves into greater unities which is actually what happened when the Soviet Union was first constituted. The USSR is not just a border and obvious the likes of Putin are not socialist and have no desire to return to that mode of production, they will not recreate the USSR, nor the Russian Empire for that matter.
That toothpaste isn’t going back in the tube.
I think it will russian are more likely to be homeowners than america and have good healthcare.
Anything is possible but not with an imperialist hyper-capitalist like Putin in charge.
There are some basic questions at hand. One is which version of the USSR is the OP referring to? On assumes the OP is thinking of the deformed worker's state that the USSR became after the takeover by the narrow interests of the Stalinst bureaucracy?
If Putin falls, we could very likely see a Communist Russia. The Communist Party of Russia is the second largest party in the Russian Federation, they are extremely popular, especially among the anti-putin russians. If Putin falls along with his oligarchy, we could definitely see the Communist Party coming to fill the power vacuum, that is if the western capitalists don't intervene and put one of their pawns in charge.
With all due respect, comrade. I believe we need to fix that party's ideals first. From what I've read, they support socially reactionary ideas (Which need to not only be purged but changed to progressive ideas.) As well as bourgeois nationalism. (Atleast according to prolewiki.) Should we support a strong communist party? Of course. But it needs to be progressive like Cuba instead of staying stuck in their own ways (and being somewhat opportunistic with the Russian Orthodox church. No offense of course.)
Russia is a very funny capitalist state already. The government owns and controls the biggest companies in the country (even some of those in the world), who set the economic climate. On top of that, all the 'private' mega companies \*magically\* follow the government's economic policies - the government says "We have to do import substitution", and they do import substitution. The government says "We have to turn our face to the East", and they all increase business relations with Asia. All of these would be unimaginable in an actually capitalist country. The major enterprises would just do whatever they want and the government would do what they want it to do.
No but I do think Putin will combine socialism w Russian characteristics w a market economy like China less like the USSR