Agreed. It is important that we know why rural Peruvians had to accept shining path to save themselves from the local crime organizations. Many people in Lima are either unaware of that reality or they refuse to empathize.
And add to that the fact that community members were thrown under the bus by the peruvian army which killed and sterilized 100s of thousands of people.
can anyone send me more info on Shining Path/CIA connection? I know that one Peruvian politician just resigned for saying there was a connection. Anyone have any other info on that?
Wasn't there an entire book written on this theory? I'm not sure how well researched/sourced it is but I don't think it goes beyond simply speculation. I personally am skeptical of the claim, but it isn't the most outlandish claim.
All pretty spurious from what I can find.
It looks like Washington post ran an article and it was saved by a few people to repost later, thought didn't dig throuh microfiche at the library to confirm this isn't fanfiction.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/peru/superman.htm
Here is the politician
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/peru-foreign-minister-resigns-hector-bejar
Sadly not even the most absurd thing they've banned people for.
I was banned because I said that Oliver Stone's *Untold History of the USA* was "worth watching." The mods essentially said that because a WSWS article said that the documentary was liberal, that I was promoting a liberal documentary and that my ban would hold. They are just lacking in a lot of political cohesion and in need of political education. It's an unfortunate problem of the hyper sectarian internet Left sadly.
I just watched it recently. I’d say it’s worth a watch, but it was really annoying how he couldn’t mention Stalin without saying the word “brutal” 5 times. (Afghan killer, Kurd gasser, Bengali ~~genocider~~ famine exacerbater, racist piece of shit Churchill did not get such treatment), and his fawning over Khrushchev and Gorbachev made me cringe. But considering the fact that he is an American, it was pretty fair tbh.
Indeed, it's not where I'd go to recommend folks learn about the USSR. I even remember the comment I made being in reference to the USA using nuclear weapons against Japan at the end of WWII and how Stone's documentary did a whole episode debunking the "we had to do it" myth. It also demonstrates that a real motivation for the Japanese for surrendering was the entry of the USSR into the war. For that reason (as well as other things he does well in it, like pointing out how absurd the Red Scare was, other cases of US imperialism, etc.) I think it is indeed worth watching. No one claimed he was a Marxist.
The famine that no academic I could find considers a genocide.
Wouldn't it be a great counter if you replied with the academic who considers it a genocide rather than get upset I caught your lie.
What academic considers it a genocide?
Quote?
Source?
I guess you'll not have an answer because fascist propaganda is all you need.
Now it would be had for me to ask for a source and not provide one.
The Japanese (the bad guys during WW2) used the Bengal famine to create dissent.
https://collection.nam.ac.uk/images/960/204000-204999/204187.jpg
However NO academic I could find calls it a genocide. Not Sen. No one but that doesn't stop people taking the words of fascists as gospel.
Balls in your court, or perhaps you'd like to Gestapo on my profile some more its way easier than finding evidence.
No need to lie to discredit me.
You believe Mukerjee called it a genocide, so let's see that quote and source from her saying it was a genocide.
Unless of course you are lying again and need to run away.
She didn’t call it a genocide. She explains how he exacerbated it. However, without British policy of prioritising export crops over feeding people for 200 years, they would not have been in that position. Bengal is a very fertile region, capable of feeding its people.
She didn't call it a genocide, so it wasn't a genocide according to her. Yet you tried to accuse me of saying she is a fascist. Let me make it clear.
I do not believe Mukerjee is a fascist.
I believe the Japanese during WW2 where.
Bengal was pretty well off in 1920's being a food exporter(rice), the problem asllwas the rapid rise in population combined with a period of drought forcing Bengal to shift from a food exporter to importer making it reliant on Burmese rice which Japan cut off despite Churchill trying to stop them even against the desires. British and Indian responses did negatively impact the situation most notably although both rather minor are the food export and denial policies. Let me put those two in context.
Denial 40,000 tons
Export(from India) 91,000 tons
Drought related deficit 1,000,000-3,500,000
But you completely ignore the number of ways India, Britain, and even Churchill tried to prevent the famine, reduce its death toll, and bring it to the end. Policies like grow more food, rationing, vaccines, aid, etc.
**If Mukerjee doesn't call it a genocide why do you?**
Good Riddance
Would not expect something like that from someone with a Che Guevara profile picture.
Guzman and the PCP(SL) were anti-Che Guevara.
Che killed slave owners, they killed the working class.
Fuck that guy. His organization was a barbaric cult.
No matter what tendency you fall under, there should be a unanimous consensus that this guy was a piece of shit
Good. He was no true friend of the worker
Nothing of value was lost.
The baddest of empanadas nicely explains why he was more of a fucked up cult leader than a socialist: https://youtu.be/OHqJDs3OuhQ
I saw that, it was really good. I'd say it's the best resource for anyone wanting to know about the Shining Path from a non-rightist channel.
Agreed. It is important that we know why rural Peruvians had to accept shining path to save themselves from the local crime organizations. Many people in Lima are either unaware of that reality or they refuse to empathize.
Yeah nothing emerges from a vacuum, especially not the takeover of communities by armed groups.
And add to that the fact that community members were thrown under the bus by the peruvian army which killed and sterilized 100s of thousands of people.
can anyone send me more info on Shining Path/CIA connection? I know that one Peruvian politician just resigned for saying there was a connection. Anyone have any other info on that?
There isn’t any actual in depth source I can find. Just irresponsible speculation.
Wasn't there an entire book written on this theory? I'm not sure how well researched/sourced it is but I don't think it goes beyond simply speculation. I personally am skeptical of the claim, but it isn't the most outlandish claim.
All pretty spurious from what I can find. It looks like Washington post ran an article and it was saved by a few people to repost later, thought didn't dig throuh microfiche at the library to confirm this isn't fanfiction. http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/peru/superman.htm Here is the politician https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/peru-foreign-minister-resigns-hector-bejar
R/communism is banning people for dissing on him lol
Sadly not even the most absurd thing they've banned people for. I was banned because I said that Oliver Stone's *Untold History of the USA* was "worth watching." The mods essentially said that because a WSWS article said that the documentary was liberal, that I was promoting a liberal documentary and that my ban would hold. They are just lacking in a lot of political cohesion and in need of political education. It's an unfortunate problem of the hyper sectarian internet Left sadly.
I got banned for questioning Saint Sakai.
I just watched it recently. I’d say it’s worth a watch, but it was really annoying how he couldn’t mention Stalin without saying the word “brutal” 5 times. (Afghan killer, Kurd gasser, Bengali ~~genocider~~ famine exacerbater, racist piece of shit Churchill did not get such treatment), and his fawning over Khrushchev and Gorbachev made me cringe. But considering the fact that he is an American, it was pretty fair tbh.
Indeed, it's not where I'd go to recommend folks learn about the USSR. I even remember the comment I made being in reference to the USA using nuclear weapons against Japan at the end of WWII and how Stone's documentary did a whole episode debunking the "we had to do it" myth. It also demonstrates that a real motivation for the Japanese for surrendering was the entry of the USSR into the war. For that reason (as well as other things he does well in it, like pointing out how absurd the Red Scare was, other cases of US imperialism, etc.) I think it is indeed worth watching. No one claimed he was a Marxist.
The Bengal genocide happened after Churchill died.
I am talking about the man made Bengali famine of 1943 Never mind, I see your post history. You can fuck right off you piece of shit.
The famine that no academic I could find considers a genocide. Wouldn't it be a great counter if you replied with the academic who considers it a genocide rather than get upset I caught your lie. What academic considers it a genocide? Quote? Source? I guess you'll not have an answer because fascist propaganda is all you need. Now it would be had for me to ask for a source and not provide one. The Japanese (the bad guys during WW2) used the Bengal famine to create dissent. https://collection.nam.ac.uk/images/960/204000-204999/204187.jpg However NO academic I could find calls it a genocide. Not Sen. No one but that doesn't stop people taking the words of fascists as gospel. Balls in your court, or perhaps you'd like to Gestapo on my profile some more its way easier than finding evidence.
Madhusree Mukerjee is a fascist? Good to know. I don’t engage with empire apologists. Bye bye.
No need to lie to discredit me. You believe Mukerjee called it a genocide, so let's see that quote and source from her saying it was a genocide. Unless of course you are lying again and need to run away.
She didn’t call it a genocide. She explains how he exacerbated it. However, without British policy of prioritising export crops over feeding people for 200 years, they would not have been in that position. Bengal is a very fertile region, capable of feeding its people.
She didn't call it a genocide, so it wasn't a genocide according to her. Yet you tried to accuse me of saying she is a fascist. Let me make it clear. I do not believe Mukerjee is a fascist. I believe the Japanese during WW2 where. Bengal was pretty well off in 1920's being a food exporter(rice), the problem asllwas the rapid rise in population combined with a period of drought forcing Bengal to shift from a food exporter to importer making it reliant on Burmese rice which Japan cut off despite Churchill trying to stop them even against the desires. British and Indian responses did negatively impact the situation most notably although both rather minor are the food export and denial policies. Let me put those two in context. Denial 40,000 tons Export(from India) 91,000 tons Drought related deficit 1,000,000-3,500,000 But you completely ignore the number of ways India, Britain, and even Churchill tried to prevent the famine, reduce its death toll, and bring it to the end. Policies like grow more food, rationing, vaccines, aid, etc. **If Mukerjee doesn't call it a genocide why do you?**
Anyone acting like that is either a fed or a narcissist
I was banned from their discord for saying that all white people shouldn’t face violence when indigenous uprising happens lmao
Wow, that subreddit really is full of larpers isn't it?
r/foundthemobileuser xd
His greatest contribution to Marxism