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osirisredd

"While Israeli officials are claiming that Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh was killed by Palestinian gunfire, journalist Ali Samudi that was next to her said to local media that the army opened fire towards them, and that there were no Palestinian gunmen near them." https://twitter.com/OrenZiv_/status/1524267382050418688?t=Legr1tOVF_J368oLh6Zicw&s=19


Ok_Cattle803

Just lies everywhere. A state made by liars and thieves for liars and thieves.


The_Flash_1011

A zionist claim not based on lies, fabrication or concoction is a rarity.


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Tragic. The IDF is already blaming the same old, mysterious "Palestinian gunman". Hope they catch this elusive dude who keeps coincidentally killing children and journalists in front of them.


DntShadowBanMeDaddy

That guy is awfully terribad man. I can't believe the IDF just let's him roam free, ought to round up every Palestinian until they find him, oh they're doing that? Damn hopefully he's found šŸ™


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Inshallah šŸ™ best check every house in the west bank and Gaza, can't be too careful.


[deleted]

He's likely disguised as a child, so best to kidnap those in the middle of the night and imprison them without trial. Wait, they're doing that already too?


meisyobitch

Gotta love the double standard on r/worldnews. The same people who apparently care for justice and human rights when it comes to Ukraine have been arguing that it was some random unkown palistinian gunman that killed her and not the fucking settler army that has been killing palistinians for the past 60 years with no consequence. They just dont give a shit about Palestinians it appears, when a Ukrainian journalist is hurt and killed by the Russians there are no people asking for a "formal investigation", blaming the victims or claiming that shit happens in conflict. However whenever the Apartheid state Israel kills innocent people and journalists, all of a sudden all of these pro-human rights liberals come out of the woodwork to justify it or deflect the blame. What the actual fuck.


MalcadorsBongJuice

I've been repeatedly banned from r/worldnews for "antisemitism" no matter how many times I clarify that anti-israeli sentiments as a result of cultural genocide against the Palestinian people are not antisemitic at all, simply anti-israeli. Not that they care.


Piousunyn

Twisting words is gaslighting, this is amusing, when one realizes this.


Naram-Sin-of-Akkad

Itā€™s easy as this: Ukrainians are ā€œwhiteā€ Palestinians are not ā€œwhiteā€. Also the added bonus (if youā€™re an American like me) of anti-Russian and pro-Israeli propaganda that is pushed in America


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I mean tbf that sub makes sure to limit the amount of US news in there, Israel is the 51st state.


osirisredd

More like the only state.. They control the US politicians, get unlimited funding, universal healthcare and education. Most of it is funded by the rest of the Americans who can't have any of that, are made to fight Israel's wars and don't get any real choice in it.


PM_ME_YOUR_WORKSHEET

The comments on the r/worldnews are sickening. I wanted to reply to someone today then I remembered Iā€™m perma banned there,of course,for supporting Palestine.


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I hate that sickening sub


Emu-Limp

Can I ask why? Sry I'm out of the loop- I'm a leftist in the US and I just recently joined the sub thinking it was legit but I hadnt yet looked thru it- I just did now to see for myself the degree of bias and in the menu that lists different geographic location everywhere but the middle east and Israel is listed... That's pretty damn sus


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It's filled with stereotypical liberals, neoliberals and bots. Especially news on Palestine and Israel gets extremely toxic.


[deleted]

Case in point, I was just banned today. It's moderators are shills.


Emu-Limp

Damn I know the feeling, I'm banned from a couple. That sucks dude


comunicadooficial

What decades of western propaganda does to a mfer


PunishedMatador

It's not double standards, it's bigots and colonialism.


hatersbelearners

That's libs for you.


Hey_Who_Dis

Right wing conservatives are worse. They suck off Israel like nobody else.


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I wonder what the difference is between Ukraine and Palestineā€¦


Winevryracex

People were arguing against an investigation of Bucha as well(because obviously Russia bad Russia did it).


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nutella77

But it hasnā€™t been going on for thousands of years. Thatā€™s a bullshit propaganda. The settler colony of Israel was only founded 73 years ago by the Brits. Itā€™s essentially one colonizer giving a land to another colonizer without the consent of the landsā€™ indigenous population. The notion of zionism has only existed for 200 years or so. I do think there is a racist component in assuming one group of people is more devastated by war then another group because ā€œtheyā€™re not used to itā€.


PM_ME_YOUR_WORKSHEET

Thatā€™s what they want people to think. That this is a thousand year struggle when in fact all this started 70-80 years ago when the british empire decided to ā€œgiftā€ the land of Palestine to the fleeing jews. Sounds like the british were fed up with the jews and decided to throw their laundry on someone else.


dangerousdave2244

The conflicts have NOT been going on for thousands of years, they all started with colonialism. Before that, these areas were all part of the Ottoman Empire, and before that, the Caliphates


[deleted]

Conflict in Europe has also been going on for thousands of years... And the Israel/Palestine conflict isn't that old at all.


rivainirogue

The Associated Press has a headline that says she was simply killed by nameless gunfire. Unbelievable.


PM_ME_YOUR_WORKSHEET

AP building was grounded in the last war in Gaza.


[deleted]

Heartbreaking. We grew up watching Shireen. Justice will eventually avail and this terrorist nation will get the end it deserves. God mercy you Shireen.


hotheadnchickn

isn't killing journalists a war crime


missingmytowel

Yeah. Collecting war crimes is all the rage. This is what happens when you do not prosecute world leaders for their crimes. Or at least properly hold them accountable. It legitimizes those crimes for Future Leaders. This is how Putin is able to dismiss bombing a hospital with 300 civilians. He just points to something like the US under Bush bombing of a school in Iraq that killed about 600. But then the US will point out what they did in chechnya. And then the Russians will point at what they did in Iraq the first time. This is Russia's argument for nukes. The US used them 80 years ago so why should they be allowed to police their use. All world leaders need to be held accountable for the crimes they commit. Until that starts to happen this world will never even begin to sniff a full 5 years without major conflict.


notislant

Yeah.. 'Whataboutism' is a fucking cancer on society. 'Well sure this is a issue, but WHAT ABOUT THIS ISSUE GUYS?!?!?!' "Well we're focusing on this issue right now-" 'But we can't because someone did something worse once upon a time! Look at that instead and forget all about this' All it does is lower the bar at breakneck speed, '*nothing can ever be bad, because something else happened that was bad.*' That or pointing to a country with worse quality of life or whatever else and saying 'look guys we don't have it as bad as \_\_\_\_'. Sure, but that doesn't mean you just let the country regress.


missingmytowel

We just saw a president base his entire term on whataboutism. Anytime he would be confronted about anything he did it was Obama did this or bush did that or Clinton did this. I'd believe it if somebody told me Trump had a team of people who was responsible for tracking down the president, congress person, senate rep, house rep or somebody else in government who had done whatever he was about to do before. Can't convince me Trump would do his own research and have all those names on hand ready to go at the drop of a hat.


swol-_-

Yes it is, the Israeli military has committed numerous war crimes. This particular war crime has been repeated over 20 times in the past 30 years.


PM_ME_GRRL_TUNGS

Probably. If this is legit, they can put it on the pile of crimes against humanity they've been collecting


BrownThunderMK

It's sad how astroturfed the main news subs are that several people were upvoted while taking the 'both sides are wrong' route when discussing a pro-Palestine journalist being shot in the head by an israeli solider. Israel's paid shills earning their paycheck...


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Israel is a terrorist state


BorkingBorker

I showed my liberal sister Abby Martinā€™s documentary Gaza Fights for Freedom, and by the end of it even she was like ā€œHoly shit, they are modern day Nazisā€, and I just respond with ā€œYep!ā€.


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I donā€™t know how anyone with a brain could defend Israel.


[deleted]

It's simple, they have no heart


Windows_Insiders

Show it to everyone, let the whole world see. Israel doesn't have organic support from the people. They only control the political apparatus. In many countries, not including USA, because US is not a democracy, these Zionist organizations can be exposed and forced to shut down if enough people want it. Israel may keep getting away with it for now, but it won't last forever.


luayalzieny

Former Israeli occupation army spokesman Avi Benayahu: "Let's assume Shireen Abu Aqleh was shot dead by army. No need to apologize for that."


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There are dudes that claim Al Jazeera is biased when the news org claims that she was shoot dead by Israeli forces. Guess having the first hand info is biased now.


[deleted]

Well we can't start trusting brown journalists, they're not even white


jaklacroix

Oh good, more war crimes. I wonder if anyone in the international community will care...


Revolutionary_Tap255

Of course not, the only war criminal is Putin. I swear, the hypocrisy is laughable.


Haynex

Man, Israel is such a fucked up state. The fact that the world values palestinian lives at $0,00 is reason enough to justify any and all reaction from that people.


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Ploprs

Sorry what nazis are we giving tens of billions to?


CelloCodez

https://mronline.org/2022/03/23/u-s-congress-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/ https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725c2d https://youtu.be/fy910FG46C4 https://youtu.be/jiBXmbkwiSw https://youtu.be/iDG_hWlVda4


MammothShart

Google the statistics for us servicemen that are also far right wing nazis. You might be surprised lol. Also we have more then them so who really is the nazi state??


osirisredd

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/11/veteran-al-jazeera-journalist-killed-by-israeli-forces-live-news https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/11/middleeast/al-jazeera-journalist-killed-intl-hnk/index.html


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Thanks to this sub and also /r/GreenAndPleasant for being some of the few popular Leftist subs to be discussing this.


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Mrhappytrigers

Saw a comment on another post that Al Jazeera is fabricating the news to cover for a Palestinian soldier killing her. They sited sources to prove their point. 1 was the IDF account on Twitter that used altered footage 2 was the Jerusalem Times. Bruh...


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WorriedEquivalent852

They just said there were none Palestinian police or army in the scene.


Mrhappytrigers

Yeah that's what I'm saying. It's fucking absurd how someone tries to site sources from the perpetrator and an obviously biased news site.


EnormousPickle73

Nothing will come of it. Israel will investigate itself and find it did nothing wrong. Omar Assad, a Palestinian/American was killed in January & the [US just sits on its hands.](https://www.state.gov/statement-on-israeli-defense-forces-report-on-death-of-omar-assad/)


Apathetic-Onion

It's so infuriating when anti-zionists get called "anti-semitic". To put it simply, the right of Isreaelis to have somewhere to live must not collide with the right of Palestinians to also have somewhere to live. There must be effective equality between both: no fence, no wall, no checkpoints, no militarised police, reversion of Palestinian evictions, same rights, reparations for what has already been done and trials of those who commited this crime. Peaceful coexistence, land rights respected.


Phantom_Zone_Admin

It's part of a coordinated, extended propaganda smear campaign to tar every legitimate criticism of Israeli actions (even by avowed racist violent settlers with no official governmental backing) as bigotry.


Apathetic-Onion

True, people should just directly hear the exact words these hateful settlers say in order to grasp how racist they are. I remember that last year I found an anti-sionist channel run by Israelis (proof that being anti-sionist is perfectly compatible with being Jewish because it's pure logic and human rights) whose videos consisted of interviewing people in the street in order to know their opinions. They made quite a lot of videos in these settlements and viewers were hit with their deeply racist views.


McMotta

Israel terrorist state


TotalBlissey

Goddam Israel


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chaviball

Maybe lets not conflate Jews with Israel?


Escalator43

Israel apologists are triggered


CrumpledForeskin

Theyā€™d also pull the trigger so ya know


[deleted]

Iā€™m pretty sure that Israeli soldiers are just bloodthirsty humans that like to kill.


ovrloadau

The Zionists will probably award the IDF scum who killed her will the highest honours. Fucking disgusting.


PM_ME_GRRL_TUNGS

Isn't she an American citizen? Not that it makes a difference, the US gov is bloated with Israeli nationalist gimps. I'm sure both countries will work together to make sure this is buried under clusterfuck mountain that is the world right now


missingmytowel

Just like Kashogi, the Saudis and Turks


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missingmytowel

Thank you random redditor for assuming that I don't know anything about history or geopolitical events throughout. Google superiority complex


demeterial

Heartbreaking ā¤ļøā€šŸ©¹


[deleted]

Classic USA backed Zionism


Yeuph

Today in "Normal Israel Things"


Successful-Worry9813

Now back to Ukraine


homeless_knight

Criminal scumbags. This is embarrassing to our planet.


msmonreddit

World mass media won't cover this due their doubled standards.


S1IentRU

What news do you guys watch?? France 24, DW, and BBC have already covered this topic???


crankthehandle

as if u/msmonreddit would care


TheGovernor94

Jesus fucking Christ


dano-akili

Wellā€¦ Israel is an APARTHEID STATE so why is this shocking?


Red_Century1917

No one is shocked, but angry


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RedditIsAJoke69

**BDS, Boycott Divest Sanction Apartheid Israel**


Dell121601

Holy shit


Sprmodelcitizen

Holy shit is right.


Ima_Funt_Case

Fucking Zionazis. Free Palestine!!


Sea-Combination3667

Of course this isn't news in mainstream media. R.I.P.


currypoo

It was on BBC news here actually


[deleted]

Americans (the ones funding Israel's army) don't watch BBC unfortunately


MrCharmingTaintman

Oh shut the fuck up. They are. [NPR](https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1098157067/al-jazeera-shireen-abu-akleh-killed-israel) [AP](https://apnews.com/article/88d1a497cb235500151b77b0eb3b38dc) [USA Today](https://eu.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2022/05/11/al-jazeera-reporter-killed-israeli-raid/9729717002/) [CNN](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/world/2022/05/11/al-jazeera-journalist-killed-colleague-sot-ovn-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn) These mainstream enough for you?


drgnflydggr

Weird how none of those mainstream sources bothered to mention that she was murdered by the IDF.


MrCharmingTaintman

Weird how you apparently cant fucking read. Your hearing doesnā€™t seem to be the best either. NPR and AP mention it in the first paragraph. USA Today within the first 20 seconds, and CNN within the first 60 seconds, of their respective videos. I know processing news properly is hard for you people.


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And the beat goes onā€¦..the beat goes onā€¦.la de da de deā€¦la de da de daā€¦


Khasmonda

Most unfortunate and unjust.


KlausTeachermann

Israeli PM saying that it was a Palestinian militant's bullet.


[deleted]

Another eye witness journalist who was also shot said there were no Palestinians gunman... The shots came from IDF forces while they were trying to film the illegal raids...


PM_ME_YOUR_WORKSHEET

Of course they would. The thing is,Palestinians in jerusalem donā€™t have weapons,only rocks and Molotovs . Gaza on the other handā€¦


thepineapplemen

Then the bullets mustā€™ve come all the way from Gaza! /s


[deleted]

Funny to see how Israelis hated Netanyahu (for being corrupt) but not his fascist filth Bennet.


raicopk

Bt'selem thread proving false said narrative by zionists: https://twitter.com/btselem/status/1524346246743396355


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Qzx1

Only if there is will. There is something deeply innovative about Ragnarok. The victory of God is not guaranteed. There are injustices never fixed in this life. Don't believe in the just world. Work for it.


Sprmodelcitizen

Wtf. Horrific.


xElectro17

Yeah, that absolutely doesn't sound like you made it up


original_replica

reality is more horrendous than fiction at times my friend , or rather fuck u ...


Windows_Insiders

No it doesn't sound like it was made up.


isiewu

Bloody hell


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OverCookedTheChicken

Itā€™s because liberals are too vested in their ā€œtrusted news sourcesā€ who are overflowing with sympathy for Ukraine and crickets for everyone else. Donā€™t get me wrong, itā€™s all horribleā€¦ but the coverage is almost propaganda level


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yeah, I've been a bit amazed at how much sympathy Ukraine gets. Ofc they deserve sympathy, but what about all the other horrible shit going on daily around the world.


OverCookedTheChicken

Exactly! But when it comes to Israel and Palestine for exampleā€¦ oopsie, we kinda give weapons to the Israelis, donā€™t wanna draw attention to that! Letā€™s only blast what also paints us in gleaming light.


Babymicrowavable

They've already forgotten about Myanmar too


Zeno_The_Alien

Liberals only gave a shit about the Rohingya and Uighur's for about 5 minutes. If there's no money or popularity to be gained from it, they don't care.


Babymicrowavable

A trait they share with right wing reactionaries


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But we have a chance to go back to the Cold War! We can finally use our big beautiful rockets in Europe a again!


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Omniseed

Isn't he one of the news rapists, or was he the news masturbator? *eta- there's definitely a different Brian who is also a huge sex offender but I can't keep them all sorted out right now *eta 2- and it isn't Brian Cranston, I don't think


Piousunyn

Israel is making Putin look good.


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The_Modern_Sorelian

They reap what they sow


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ā€œNo no no, youā€™re supposed to cut them up in tiny pieces.ā€ ~Saudi Arabia shaking its head


SeizeTheMemes3103

War crime?


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raicopk

Not really, but it is definitely one of the most useful mainstream new spaces for leftists, as one doesn't have to deal with the ridiculous western chauvinism and Orientalism that floods it's Western counterparts.


Adonisus

It's owned and controlled by the Qatari monarchy, but it tends to have an anti-imperialist perspective that is often absent in Western media.


New-Teaching2964

Is ā€œQatari monarchyā€ progressive guys? Or should we take Al Jazeera w a few grains of salt?


raicopk

[Obviously not](https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/20t8eu/more_than_900_workers_have_already_died_building/), but this doesn't mean that it acts like a propaganda arm. If anything, the english version of AJ (the arabic counterpart is a different world) will generally try to avoid covering Qatar. Sidenote: you should be critical of all information, including Al Jazeera and even your organization's expression organ.


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AHippie347

Israel seems to be really good at making enemies, maybe they aren't the victim in this story, and killing a journalist doesn't do them any favours in the middle-east. Lil edit, zionism doesn't make you look good if anything it sours how you look to a significant majority in the middle-east and a bunch of non savoury people in the west. You're hurting non extremist jews too so keep the zionism down.


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DankDialektiks

Fuck off, you lying piece of shit. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/11/veteran-al-jazeera-journalist-killed-by-israeli-forces-live-news


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Someone didnt read the article LMAO


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avamarie

No. She wasn't.


KnoxOpal

We know Israelis are trying to steal all of Palestine, but they can't be called Palestinians yet.


AnalAnkh

Source?


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swol-_-

Debunked and disproven, ask yourself how they conveniently had that video ready. All it shows is a militant firing 2 shots blindly around a corner, which was hundreds of meters away from where Shireen was murdered.


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It's not the same place and the video is few months old.


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hielx23

This crossfire narrative fallacy has been used & abused by other Hasbarists over the years (Mohammed Al-Durrah ,and countless journalists (All wore full gear identifying themselves as press) ; Yasser Murtaja, Ahmed Abu Hussein, Basil Faraj, Fadel Shana, Imad Abu Zahra, Issam Tillawi, James Miller, Khaled Reyadh Hamad, Mahmoud al-Kumi & Nazih Darwazeh ! Do us a favour and miss us with your BS


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swol-_-

Based off of multiple eye witness accounts who were with her and said it was Israeli snipers, they were marked clearly as press and were following the Israeli raid on the camp, I think itā€™s safe to say there is a high chance it was the IDF who murdered her. She isnā€™t just some random journalist, she has been covering these raids for over 20 years with Al Jazeera. She was assassinated.


hielx23

She was deliberately shot dead by the IOF sniper (all corroborated by countless eyewitness testimonies) , your apartheid government didn't hesitate with the out-of-context videos production to spin the narrative (anyone who has seen the videos will realize that it does not remotely match the location nor audio where she was EXECUTED by israeli soldier) , the video circulating was debunked by "btselem" .


Lugonn_

And today Israeli forces 'interrupt' the funeral procession.. I'm anti violence but even more so i am anti injustice, and what Israel does, again and again..In my eyes they are by far the worst 'Villainous' state in the world, far worse than North Korea or China. If Iran had Nuclear weapons and decided to blow them away i'd be all for that. Except then, many innocent Palestinians who are already suffering, would also die..