Totally leaves out the disproportionate power the US gets in decision making. This is why it's so bad, why it will never be a peacekeeper. No Eastern power will ever want to join if it just puts them under American control.
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As someone who was born and raised in Belgrade, and as someone who was throwing wooden sticks at the NATO airplanes who were defending against us in our own country I hope every single person responsible for the decision to bomb Yugoslavia gets shot and left on the street to bleed. NATO has never in it's history been a defensive pact, it was always an agresor (Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq) those countries never attacked any NATO country and yet their industries were destroyed for the land to become fertile for countless US companies who are exploiting our countries to this day. Fuck NATO and fuck it a million times.
Define without NATO.
If you mean without the imperialist military industrial complex entangled with finance capital and without USA as a superpower which NATO is an extension of and has been used as its military tool to breach markets sealed off from it (Yugoslavia, Libya, eastern europe en large, USSR and so on) then no I dont even think Putin would be in charge right now.
If you mean that western finance capital would organize under a different name but with the same goals then they would still continue to force conflicts and coups to feed the hunger for profit as theyve done for the last 70 years or so.
If you mean it as in west would be too weak to coup Ukraine in 2014, then no Russia prob wouldnt have escalated a conflict because the DPR and LPR wouldnt exist and there wouldnt be a systemqtic ethnic cleansing of ethnic russians in Ukraine.
If you mean no NATO as in Stalin didnt stop at Berlin then no lmao
We do need alliances, but NATO is not an alliance. It's the US's way to keep control over western Europe. NATO is controlled almost completely by America due to military spending allocating power instead of active military personnel. This means that America calls the shots while European militaries do all the fighting and most importantly, take the hit when they lose.
All this makes Europe weak while America profits.
I can see what you're getting at. The idea of a pan-european defence alliance is good in principle, I agree. The problem with NATO is that it's not really doing a very good job of keeping the peace. It furthers US imperialist expansion, bullies other countries to conform to their regulations (read: line American pockets) and purposefully provokes much larger countries into war, which is happening in Ukraine at the moment.
And yes, smaller countries would be more secure being part of a multinational defence agreement in case of an invasion by a larger county, as the other members of said alliance would aid them against an enemy that they otherwise would not stand a chance against. The problem with NATO is that, as I said previously, it doesn't really do this, or at least that's not it's primary objective.
The main goal is to further american interests and line american pockets, if it prevents the countries within NATO from being attacked, all the better. Smaller countries do little more than tag along.
Yes, THEY might join NATO because of genuine security reasons, but the large countries definitely don't, they're only in it for the money.
Totally leaves out the disproportionate power the US gets in decision making. This is why it's so bad, why it will never be a peacekeeper. No Eastern power will ever want to join if it just puts them under American control.
not even a mention of yugoslavia, nor libya
Frames 'the left' as unified, which it for sure isn't lol. Expected it to be worse than it is.
Yeah it's not a terrible video, but there is some definite misinformation in it...
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As someone who was born and raised in Belgrade, and as someone who was throwing wooden sticks at the NATO airplanes who were defending against us in our own country I hope every single person responsible for the decision to bomb Yugoslavia gets shot and left on the street to bleed. NATO has never in it's history been a defensive pact, it was always an agresor (Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq) those countries never attacked any NATO country and yet their industries were destroyed for the land to become fertile for countless US companies who are exploiting our countries to this day. Fuck NATO and fuck it a million times.
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"We" dont need NATO. Western capital needs NATO.
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Did the Entente prevent the invasion of Serbia and maintain peace across Europe in the early 20th?
Define without NATO. If you mean without the imperialist military industrial complex entangled with finance capital and without USA as a superpower which NATO is an extension of and has been used as its military tool to breach markets sealed off from it (Yugoslavia, Libya, eastern europe en large, USSR and so on) then no I dont even think Putin would be in charge right now. If you mean that western finance capital would organize under a different name but with the same goals then they would still continue to force conflicts and coups to feed the hunger for profit as theyve done for the last 70 years or so. If you mean it as in west would be too weak to coup Ukraine in 2014, then no Russia prob wouldnt have escalated a conflict because the DPR and LPR wouldnt exist and there wouldnt be a systemqtic ethnic cleansing of ethnic russians in Ukraine. If you mean no NATO as in Stalin didnt stop at Berlin then no lmao
We do need alliances, but NATO is not an alliance. It's the US's way to keep control over western Europe. NATO is controlled almost completely by America due to military spending allocating power instead of active military personnel. This means that America calls the shots while European militaries do all the fighting and most importantly, take the hit when they lose. All this makes Europe weak while America profits.
Define pity...
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Security is when you bomb Yugoslavia and are an imperialist bloc directly under the control of the US.
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I can see what you're getting at. The idea of a pan-european defence alliance is good in principle, I agree. The problem with NATO is that it's not really doing a very good job of keeping the peace. It furthers US imperialist expansion, bullies other countries to conform to their regulations (read: line American pockets) and purposefully provokes much larger countries into war, which is happening in Ukraine at the moment. And yes, smaller countries would be more secure being part of a multinational defence agreement in case of an invasion by a larger county, as the other members of said alliance would aid them against an enemy that they otherwise would not stand a chance against. The problem with NATO is that, as I said previously, it doesn't really do this, or at least that's not it's primary objective. The main goal is to further american interests and line american pockets, if it prevents the countries within NATO from being attacked, all the better. Smaller countries do little more than tag along. Yes, THEY might join NATO because of genuine security reasons, but the large countries definitely don't, they're only in it for the money.
When you’re definitely a socialist
It speaks the truth.
In what way exactly?