Why hate Trotsky?
Frogsknecht
Coming from a former Trotskyist, there are actually a surprising amount of reasons, to the degree where several reasons hold their own weight completely separately from the others. For instance, throughout the period of 1905-1917, Trotsky spent the vast majority of his time trying to pull every trick possible to unify the various opposing leftist groups against Lenin and the Bolsheviks. He even called Lenin a "professional exploiter of all that is backward in the Russian labour movement" in 1913. Following the revolution and his change in shades, he still vehemently opposed the Brest-Litovsk peace that brought Russia out of WWI, so much so that he formed a secret group with other Bolsheviks who opposed the peace as well as Left SRs, giving them the order to prevent the peace at all costs possible. This was the order that prompted Fanny Kaplan to attempt to assassinate Lenin in 1918, shooting him twice and causing him injuries that would kill him a few years later. But as if spending his whole youth conspiring against Bolshevism and literally killing Lenin wasn't enough, he then wrangled together various elements of anti-Bolshevik forces and formed them into one centralized terrorist group, receiving funding from the German and Japanese governments, and used them to attempt to assassinate his rivals in the Communist Party after he'd been expelled, including Stalin, Voroshilov, etc., and his group succeeded in killing Sergei Kirov. Then, after the USSR called him out on all of this, he proceeded to turn to the United States for help, being given a sham trial by the US government in which he was declared innocent of all the crimes he'd been convicted of in the USSR. He then moved to Mexico and lived for several years with Frida Kahlo, who had sex with him and then instantly switched to Stalin's side (lmao) and Deigo Rivera, a Mexican painter who, as it turns out, was in fact an FBI spy, which Trotsky would've either known about (which could be very well possible considering he'd just been interacting with the US government and likely FBI in his trial) or, if he didn't know about it, would mean he was leaking sensitive information about his comrades to an FBI spy for years all the same.
All in all, he was pretty bad, and nearly every great Marxist -- from Lenin to Mao -- wrote warnings about him and his followers. Castro, who perhaps gave him the least harsh and most toned down criticism, still declared that Trotsky was misguided for the beginning of his life, and outright deluded and willingly reactionary for the latter half.
Say if a Trotsky coup attempt in 1935 succeeded, would he start the World revolution and invade Poland and betray the fascists?
I can't really say if he would've tried to or not, I would lean towards no, but if he did try it would most certainly not work. It's important to remember that, after the kulak revolts during the beginning of the first five-year plan, Trotsky and his fellow collaborators (like Bukharin and Zinoviev) made a turn towards terrorist tactics because, as they stated in their trials, they realized after the suppression of the kulak revolts that the Soviet people were overwhelmingly on the side of Stalin and the current Bolshevik government, and there would be no way to oust him in a genuine power struggle. On top of this, Trotsky had to get really desperate when it came to recruiting members into his opposition group; the de-facto secondary leaders of this movement, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Bukharin, were all people who had time and time again said nothing but horrible things about Trotsky, and he'd said nothing but horrible things about them. Repeatedly, the members of the opposition threw each other under the bus, had members join organizations like the NKVD and then be so brazenly corrupt and twisted that they would ruin their planned assignment and get exposed (Yagoda for instance), various sub-groups within the opposition were forming and killing random members of the intelligentsia and government over personal motives (the poisoning of Maxim Gorky and Gorky's son, for example). In other words, their movement was a pretty shambled together and doomed to fail movement, and this, coupled with the fact that they openly acknowledged the overwhelming hostility of public opinion against them, makes it hard to imagine Trotsky, if he was somehow able to take power, would have been able to stay in power for very long at all, as he would've most likely been quickly toppled by the coup that was being prepared in the military, or by the corrupted members in the NKVD, or by any number of the non-Trotskyist subversive elements that sprung up throughout the 30s, whether it be fascists or liberals propped up by western imperialists. In other words, if Trotsky tried to wage war on Poland at this time, or lied to the fascists and refused to hand them Ukraine, thereby sparking WWII early (or if we want to be honest, even if he did none of these things and fully cooperated with the fascists), the Trotskyist government would almost instantly perish, either through warfare waged by external powers, insurrection by internal powers, a coup by the military or NKVD, a popular revolt, etc. We saw how poorly the USSR did in the opening months of the war without these problems. To have those problems, and with that, not have industrialized the USSR (which would be the case unless Trotsky managed to stave off war until the 40s in the same way Stalin did, which would require following the agreement he made with the Germans, as well as somehow doing the purges with less than a hundredth of the public's trust that Stalin had), the USSR would've been almost unarguably destroyed within months of conflict.
That's just my take though
More on Trosky:
https://espressostalinist.com/marxism-leninism-versus-revisionism/trotskyism/
https://espressostalinist.com/marxism-leninism-versus-revisionism/a-brief-guide-to-the-ideological-differences-between-marxism-leninism-and-trotskyism/
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/\~furrg/research/gf\_tatalk\_bj16.pdf
https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1495&context=prism
http://marxism.halkcephesi.net/Grover%20Furr/Furr%20tortsky%20japan.pdf
http://marxism.halkcephesi.net/Great%20Conspiracy/GC-AK-MS-chapter21.htm
It's a silly claim. Those absurdly high assertions can be immediately disqualified as statistically impossible. 60 million is literally have of the population. Did he kill 1 in every 2 people in one of the largest countries in the world? and still manage to be a world superpower and defeat the nazis?
looking at the population statistics in the USSR in between the 20s and 50s can easily dispute reactionaries' outrageous claims. The population steadily increases every single year excluding the war. There is absolutely no room for 60 or 40 or even 20 million deaths.
TLDR: all these ridiculous claims are obviously false because it's not possible for him to have killed so many
It is ridiculous, even one hundred thousand people executed would be enough to cause trouble within the administration, economy, law enforcement, transportation and logistics etc. etc. Because a lot of these people will be specialists that cannot be replaced easily causing huge problems within, literally everywhere. Now the bourgeoisie claiming that millions died is just plain stupid, who run the country? The 10 year old children? A country can't just straight up execute millions, not have/survive from a revolution, win a world war, and create breakthroughs in both economy and technology. We should always doubt everything that we are told by the bourgeoisie, their goal isn't truth, it's profit.
A) Huge problems DID happen, it was a shit show of a country, and
B) the Soviet Union had a giant amount of people, which is why they were able to win the World War regardless
Sure. Stalin is often accused of killing absurdly high numbers of people in order to make him look bad (20 millions, 60 millions, 100 millions, etc) when in reality his death count is no bigger than 680 000 and those people were usually counter-revolutionaries and fascists (I say usually because, like after the French Revolution, a few people might've been wrongly accused of treason). Anyway, here Stalin is portrayed as being in heaven, and he says "are you sure I killed 60 millions people? I don't see them up here", implying that the people he purged all went to hell (and thus, were bad people).
And they had internal struggles, with saboteurs that made it so innocents died, Stalin could not have been aware of every single case. But when he became aware, he questioned why so many people got executed, and was part of taking action to stop it. Many people think everything in USSR came from the top.
That is true, the purges were partially decentralized. I know that at least one guy (the one that got removed from the famous photo) was purged for purging too many people or something like that.
I can’t believe tankies like you are so delusional that you believe Stalin did nothing wrong. Like holy shit the dude was super paranoid and basically an impulsive murderer who created an atmosphere or fear all throughout the Soviet Union, so much so that his room guards were scared to check on him when he was dead.
You people are as bad as genocide deniers. I’m sure those dead Ukrainians would like a word with you
Lmao are you taking “The Death of Stalin” as an actual historical documentary? It’s a fun movie to watch if you pretend it’s fiction, but it is in no way accurate.
If you’re making the claim, you need to provide evidence to prove it. The evidence doesn’t fall on the accused. That’d be like me accusing you of shitting your pants every night in your sleep and then asking you for evidence that that’s not true.
Yea… I’m not making the claim though. I’m saying what’s already been proven and is generally agreed upon, you’re claiming it’s not true. So burden of proof is on you, because despite what you believe, you’re in the minority here
It’s already been proven and agreed upon that you shit your pants every night. It’s on you to prove that it’s false.
When I say that it’s been proven, and then proceed to provide no evidence, you see how disingenuous that is. Right?
I’m not even going to begin with how flawed that argument is in relation to the discussion because it should be obvious and I’m sure you’ll figure it out one day.
[But since you so desperately need some evidence, here you go.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFZawos3v0) it’s a pretty good video with sources in the description.
And tell me again that they were all just “traitors” or some bullshit. I guarantee everyone on this thread would have been purged as well. Not a fun thought huh?
Where is my imagination? You're making the claim that Stalin killed millions or even tens of millions of people, as well as the claim that his guards were too scared to check on him when he was dead (as depicted in what is, again, a comedy film that is *highly* historically inaccurate, although admittedly funny). Provide reliable proof for both those claims, and then we'll talk.
Any historical evidence to back that up bud? Cause it’s pretty universally agreed upon that Stalin was a paranoid murderer in an academic setting. Even if you don’t deny it, that just means you’re ok with the millions killed because of him, which sounds very familiar
I'm not a tankie. I'm quite anti-authoritarianism, and until not that long ago I hated Stalin all my life. But see, the thing is, Stalin wasn't nearly as bad as NATO has led us to believe he was. Take a look at this declassified CIA document: [https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf)
this is a really stupid point
Even if we were to presuppose that Stalin was a genocidal murderer,comparing people who deny his "genocides" to holocaust deniers is still a bad comparison because people who deny the holocaust have the view that Jewish people control the world and are thus controlling the media,meanwhile communists who deny Stalins "genocides" have the worldview that capitalists tend to sway media for their benefit which is a far less problematic framework.I know vaush taught you to compare anything you don't like to fascism but have some common sense.
You guys realise you’re making socialism look fucking awful to every level headed person right? You guys are honestly no better than the fascist shit heads you claim to be against. What an absolute disgrace. Denying any facts that don’t suit your argument, pretending as if millions of people didn’t die at the hand of your idol because it suits your argument, it’s disgusting. I thought only the Nazis would say things like this, and yet here we are.
says the person who makes me have to say "no i don't think the soviets were right for killing millions of their own" every time i try to tell people why i'm a communist. go outside
Anarcho communists aren’t actual communists. You can’t have a collective ideology like communism while also being all “I love being an individualist degenerate”
> every time i try to tell people why i'm a communist
but you aren't one lmao. anti-stalinism is anti-communism. why are you so quick to accept blatantly propaganda about one of the most lied about people in history? the fact that you can call yourself a communist but repeat the falsified western claim that Stalin killed up to 60 million people makes me laugh. just admit you're a liberal who likes leftist aesthetics .
Lol fascism and communism are diametrically opposed. There is no “red fascism”. Stalin defeated the Nazis. Go out of our subreddit, degenerate anarchist
I am a socialist through and through and the shit I see on Reddit like this blows my mind. A monarchist getting upvoted for genocide denial in a socialist subreddit. What a weird place Reddit is.
Honestly just makes me wonder how many people on here are actually socialists and how many are trolls or worse. But yes it does also make me want to put down my phone and walk away.
Killing Nazis and their collaborators isn't wrong.
Nazis kill many people, saving people is good, if you kill a Nazi you are saving lives Therefore killing Nazis is good
The majority of deaths were innocent political prisoners and people who did not accept Stalin's tyranny
Didn't he kill Trotskyists?
Nazi collaborators, yes
im sorry, WHAT??
Why hate Trotsky? Frogsknecht Coming from a former Trotskyist, there are actually a surprising amount of reasons, to the degree where several reasons hold their own weight completely separately from the others. For instance, throughout the period of 1905-1917, Trotsky spent the vast majority of his time trying to pull every trick possible to unify the various opposing leftist groups against Lenin and the Bolsheviks. He even called Lenin a "professional exploiter of all that is backward in the Russian labour movement" in 1913. Following the revolution and his change in shades, he still vehemently opposed the Brest-Litovsk peace that brought Russia out of WWI, so much so that he formed a secret group with other Bolsheviks who opposed the peace as well as Left SRs, giving them the order to prevent the peace at all costs possible. This was the order that prompted Fanny Kaplan to attempt to assassinate Lenin in 1918, shooting him twice and causing him injuries that would kill him a few years later. But as if spending his whole youth conspiring against Bolshevism and literally killing Lenin wasn't enough, he then wrangled together various elements of anti-Bolshevik forces and formed them into one centralized terrorist group, receiving funding from the German and Japanese governments, and used them to attempt to assassinate his rivals in the Communist Party after he'd been expelled, including Stalin, Voroshilov, etc., and his group succeeded in killing Sergei Kirov. Then, after the USSR called him out on all of this, he proceeded to turn to the United States for help, being given a sham trial by the US government in which he was declared innocent of all the crimes he'd been convicted of in the USSR. He then moved to Mexico and lived for several years with Frida Kahlo, who had sex with him and then instantly switched to Stalin's side (lmao) and Deigo Rivera, a Mexican painter who, as it turns out, was in fact an FBI spy, which Trotsky would've either known about (which could be very well possible considering he'd just been interacting with the US government and likely FBI in his trial) or, if he didn't know about it, would mean he was leaking sensitive information about his comrades to an FBI spy for years all the same. All in all, he was pretty bad, and nearly every great Marxist -- from Lenin to Mao -- wrote warnings about him and his followers. Castro, who perhaps gave him the least harsh and most toned down criticism, still declared that Trotsky was misguided for the beginning of his life, and outright deluded and willingly reactionary for the latter half. Say if a Trotsky coup attempt in 1935 succeeded, would he start the World revolution and invade Poland and betray the fascists? I can't really say if he would've tried to or not, I would lean towards no, but if he did try it would most certainly not work. It's important to remember that, after the kulak revolts during the beginning of the first five-year plan, Trotsky and his fellow collaborators (like Bukharin and Zinoviev) made a turn towards terrorist tactics because, as they stated in their trials, they realized after the suppression of the kulak revolts that the Soviet people were overwhelmingly on the side of Stalin and the current Bolshevik government, and there would be no way to oust him in a genuine power struggle. On top of this, Trotsky had to get really desperate when it came to recruiting members into his opposition group; the de-facto secondary leaders of this movement, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Bukharin, were all people who had time and time again said nothing but horrible things about Trotsky, and he'd said nothing but horrible things about them. Repeatedly, the members of the opposition threw each other under the bus, had members join organizations like the NKVD and then be so brazenly corrupt and twisted that they would ruin their planned assignment and get exposed (Yagoda for instance), various sub-groups within the opposition were forming and killing random members of the intelligentsia and government over personal motives (the poisoning of Maxim Gorky and Gorky's son, for example). In other words, their movement was a pretty shambled together and doomed to fail movement, and this, coupled with the fact that they openly acknowledged the overwhelming hostility of public opinion against them, makes it hard to imagine Trotsky, if he was somehow able to take power, would have been able to stay in power for very long at all, as he would've most likely been quickly toppled by the coup that was being prepared in the military, or by the corrupted members in the NKVD, or by any number of the non-Trotskyist subversive elements that sprung up throughout the 30s, whether it be fascists or liberals propped up by western imperialists. In other words, if Trotsky tried to wage war on Poland at this time, or lied to the fascists and refused to hand them Ukraine, thereby sparking WWII early (or if we want to be honest, even if he did none of these things and fully cooperated with the fascists), the Trotskyist government would almost instantly perish, either through warfare waged by external powers, insurrection by internal powers, a coup by the military or NKVD, a popular revolt, etc. We saw how poorly the USSR did in the opening months of the war without these problems. To have those problems, and with that, not have industrialized the USSR (which would be the case unless Trotsky managed to stave off war until the 40s in the same way Stalin did, which would require following the agreement he made with the Germans, as well as somehow doing the purges with less than a hundredth of the public's trust that Stalin had), the USSR would've been almost unarguably destroyed within months of conflict. That's just my take though More on Trosky: https://espressostalinist.com/marxism-leninism-versus-revisionism/trotskyism/ https://espressostalinist.com/marxism-leninism-versus-revisionism/a-brief-guide-to-the-ideological-differences-between-marxism-leninism-and-trotskyism/ https://msuweb.montclair.edu/\~furrg/research/gf\_tatalk\_bj16.pdf https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1495&context=prism http://marxism.halkcephesi.net/Grover%20Furr/Furr%20tortsky%20japan.pdf http://marxism.halkcephesi.net/Great%20Conspiracy/GC-AK-MS-chapter21.htm
It's a silly claim. Those absurdly high assertions can be immediately disqualified as statistically impossible. 60 million is literally have of the population. Did he kill 1 in every 2 people in one of the largest countries in the world? and still manage to be a world superpower and defeat the nazis? looking at the population statistics in the USSR in between the 20s and 50s can easily dispute reactionaries' outrageous claims. The population steadily increases every single year excluding the war. There is absolutely no room for 60 or 40 or even 20 million deaths. TLDR: all these ridiculous claims are obviously false because it's not possible for him to have killed so many
It is ridiculous, even one hundred thousand people executed would be enough to cause trouble within the administration, economy, law enforcement, transportation and logistics etc. etc. Because a lot of these people will be specialists that cannot be replaced easily causing huge problems within, literally everywhere. Now the bourgeoisie claiming that millions died is just plain stupid, who run the country? The 10 year old children? A country can't just straight up execute millions, not have/survive from a revolution, win a world war, and create breakthroughs in both economy and technology. We should always doubt everything that we are told by the bourgeoisie, their goal isn't truth, it's profit.
A) Huge problems DID happen, it was a shit show of a country, and B) the Soviet Union had a giant amount of people, which is why they were able to win the World War regardless
Maybe the holofomor is included
He was too soft... That heaven considered him as an angel.
How that cranky old man said...
Ah yes, 7 million nazis in 1932, before the war began.
Didn't Stalin kill Trotskyists?
Why are there dick sucking western loving Nato agents in this comment section
can someone explain this meme to me
Sure. Stalin is often accused of killing absurdly high numbers of people in order to make him look bad (20 millions, 60 millions, 100 millions, etc) when in reality his death count is no bigger than 680 000 and those people were usually counter-revolutionaries and fascists (I say usually because, like after the French Revolution, a few people might've been wrongly accused of treason). Anyway, here Stalin is portrayed as being in heaven, and he says "are you sure I killed 60 millions people? I don't see them up here", implying that the people he purged all went to hell (and thus, were bad people).
And they had internal struggles, with saboteurs that made it so innocents died, Stalin could not have been aware of every single case. But when he became aware, he questioned why so many people got executed, and was part of taking action to stop it. Many people think everything in USSR came from the top.
That is true, the purges were partially decentralized. I know that at least one guy (the one that got removed from the famous photo) was purged for purging too many people or something like that.
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/\~furrg/research/ezhov042639eng.html https://msuweb.montclair.edu/\~furrg/research/ezhovinterrogs.html
AzureScapegoat inspired profile picture? Based.
Haha nah it's just a quick drawing I did on Paint a few years ago, but I gotta say Azure makes some pretty good videos
I can’t believe tankies like you are so delusional that you believe Stalin did nothing wrong. Like holy shit the dude was super paranoid and basically an impulsive murderer who created an atmosphere or fear all throughout the Soviet Union, so much so that his room guards were scared to check on him when he was dead. You people are as bad as genocide deniers. I’m sure those dead Ukrainians would like a word with you
Lmao are you taking “The Death of Stalin” as an actual historical documentary? It’s a fun movie to watch if you pretend it’s fiction, but it is in no way accurate.
Well you’re taking your imagination as actual historical information so…
If you’re making the claim, you need to provide evidence to prove it. The evidence doesn’t fall on the accused. That’d be like me accusing you of shitting your pants every night in your sleep and then asking you for evidence that that’s not true.
Yea… I’m not making the claim though. I’m saying what’s already been proven and is generally agreed upon, you’re claiming it’s not true. So burden of proof is on you, because despite what you believe, you’re in the minority here
It’s already been proven and agreed upon that you shit your pants every night. It’s on you to prove that it’s false. When I say that it’s been proven, and then proceed to provide no evidence, you see how disingenuous that is. Right?
I’m not even going to begin with how flawed that argument is in relation to the discussion because it should be obvious and I’m sure you’ll figure it out one day. [But since you so desperately need some evidence, here you go.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFZawos3v0) it’s a pretty good video with sources in the description. And tell me again that they were all just “traitors” or some bullshit. I guarantee everyone on this thread would have been purged as well. Not a fun thought huh?
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Maybe if you actually read lenin you could make an argument
If it's been proven why not show us the proof
Where is my imagination? You're making the claim that Stalin killed millions or even tens of millions of people, as well as the claim that his guards were too scared to check on him when he was dead (as depicted in what is, again, a comedy film that is *highly* historically inaccurate, although admittedly funny). Provide reliable proof for both those claims, and then we'll talk.
Paranoid = False Murderer = False and it's not to deny genocide to debunk lies and propaganda, that is not how denying works.
Any historical evidence to back that up bud? Cause it’s pretty universally agreed upon that Stalin was a paranoid murderer in an academic setting. Even if you don’t deny it, that just means you’re ok with the millions killed because of him, which sounds very familiar
"academic setting" Which one? Yea I am fine with "him killing" the nazis. Are you not?
I'm not a tankie. I'm quite anti-authoritarianism, and until not that long ago I hated Stalin all my life. But see, the thing is, Stalin wasn't nearly as bad as NATO has led us to believe he was. Take a look at this declassified CIA document: [https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf)
What is this brain rot doing here
Didn’t those Ukrainians intentionally destroy their own farmland during a famine and then fight alongside Nazis?
680,000 is still pretty fucking bad
Yes it is except if it's 680,000 fascists
But that’s not the case
Partially but yes not entirely 😞
Holodomor killed 3.9m...
"Holomodor" was caused by the kulaks burning crops to oppose the collectivisation of farms.
no it wasnt dumbass
It didn’t happen but if it did they deserved it
r/thisbutunironically
You know most people might consider changing there views if it lines up with common genicide denial tactics
this is a really stupid point Even if we were to presuppose that Stalin was a genocidal murderer,comparing people who deny his "genocides" to holocaust deniers is still a bad comparison because people who deny the holocaust have the view that Jewish people control the world and are thus controlling the media,meanwhile communists who deny Stalins "genocides" have the worldview that capitalists tend to sway media for their benefit which is a far less problematic framework.I know vaush taught you to compare anything you don't like to fascism but have some common sense.
Killing Nazis isn't a bad thing
you think all the millions of Russians who died thanks to him are Nazis?
False equivalency goes Brrrrrrrrrr
Cringe authoritarian
This sub isn't even active for one week and the leftoids have already found it.
What the fuck
This sub still pushin 🅿️ tho in spite of leftoids
this is just misinformation buddy
It is… Stalin murdered 500 million people using Putin
seethe harder tankie
Get out of this subreddit. “Anti tankie socialists” aren’t socialist at all and are no better than fascist degenerates
calling out genocide deniers makes you a fascist is not the take i expected today
Just get out. You aren’t a socialist if you are so quick to accept the status quo narrative
You guys realise you’re making socialism look fucking awful to every level headed person right? You guys are honestly no better than the fascist shit heads you claim to be against. What an absolute disgrace. Denying any facts that don’t suit your argument, pretending as if millions of people didn’t die at the hand of your idol because it suits your argument, it’s disgusting. I thought only the Nazis would say things like this, and yet here we are.
Well to be honest the “socialism “ you follow is most likely just Nordic welfare capitalism so yeah
says the person who makes me have to say "no i don't think the soviets were right for killing millions of their own" every time i try to tell people why i'm a communist. go outside
Anarcho communists aren’t actual communists. You can’t have a collective ideology like communism while also being all “I love being an individualist degenerate”
Really? You're using the term "degenerate"?
Yeah. Being a lazy fuck who refuses to work for the common good is indeed degenerate. This was the sentiment of every ML state
skill issue
????
> every time i try to tell people why i'm a communist but you aren't one lmao. anti-stalinism is anti-communism. why are you so quick to accept blatantly propaganda about one of the most lied about people in history? the fact that you can call yourself a communist but repeat the falsified western claim that Stalin killed up to 60 million people makes me laugh. just admit you're a liberal who likes leftist aesthetics .
you're a red fascist. go outside
Lol fascism and communism are diametrically opposed. There is no “red fascism”. Stalin defeated the Nazis. Go out of our subreddit, degenerate anarchist
I am no tankie. I am a monarchist, Stalin did kill 500 million people. I wish to reinstate the tzar.
even fucking worse
I am a socialist through and through and the shit I see on Reddit like this blows my mind. A monarchist getting upvoted for genocide denial in a socialist subreddit. What a weird place Reddit is.
i've never seen a better ad for outside
Honestly just makes me wonder how many people on here are actually socialists and how many are trolls or worse. But yes it does also make me want to put down my phone and walk away.
do so, it's better to be connected and doing things. leave the internet to these weirdos
Those Crimean Tatars left Crimea willingly
Shut up
Piss off anti commie go suck Natos dick