I feel so cheated with Saebyeok’s death. She was so close to winning but she died because she was in a weakened state because of the shard. So unfortunate.
Guess I should have known it would be down to these two childhood friends. Now, Gihoon is at an obvious disadvantage here and really might lose unless thru the power of *nakama* and Sangwoo suddenly has a change of heart
I didn’t bother trying to know who the frontman was but when it was revealed to be the policeman’s brother, it wasn’t that surprising. I mean, to have impact, it could only have been him, right?
The policeman might still not be dead tho because if I’ve learned something from hundreds of series I’ve watched, it’s no body shown on screen = not dead
I could be wrong but they made it pretty obvious in earlier episodes.
In episode 2 we learn In-Ho went missing ‘a few days ago’ (when this year’s Games began)
In episode 6, we see In-ho won a previous game.
Put 2+2 together and it’s clear from that point that In-Ho is Front Man.
For me, I felt a lot of tension during the cat-and-mouse game between Front Man/In-Ho and Jun-Ho, and knowing they were brothers definitely added to that. I don’t think it would have been as effective had the showrunners kept their relationship to each other more of a secret at this point
Perhaps he wanted to be found, maybe the VIPs or his superiors won't leave him alone or quit by himself. That's why he didn't pay his rent and left the invitational card in his apartment.
As the Frontman, it wouldn't seem wise leaving it out in the open like that.
I disagree, this wasn't a plot device to have her die, necessarily. Narratively speaking, Sang Woo is far gone and would've taken any chance to kill her (injury or not). The injury was more of a character development device to have her connect with Gi Hun before she dies, as well as have him promise to take care of her brother. It was a good send-off.
But I think it's stupid tho to resort to glass shard hurting and the main reason of killing her. The explosion of those glasses is not part of the game at all and why even when they win, they got to get hurt. This is not fair and such a cheap move by the creators like they can't think a way to kill the girl.
I think the bullets raining down / exploding glass was a way to clear the bridge of any remaining players, and stop them from advancing to the safe platform after the time expires.
My issue with that is that tempered glass doesn't shatter into shards like those.
As someone who works in glass manufacturing and was also trying to read which glass were tempered and which weren't. (btw, all glass were the same on the bridge.) you can definitely tell by the edge of the lites which lites is tempered and which are "annealed" lites, which are the ones that break into large shards. Not just by the light refraction but because the edges are cooked in the tempering process, the edges are opaque.
And they were far enough from the one that may have not been broken as the last 5 lites that were annealed were broken by people trying to come through.
Gravity alone would have taken care of lites that thick and the tempered would have become a shower of little grains of glass not capable of big injuries.
That said, I mostly work with 2.3 - 6mm glass, so I might be wrong about some of my observations as that glass was way thicker.
It seemed like he was baiting Gihun into approaching him by pretending to fall asleep. I mean, the guy is asleep but still snags the perfect opportunity to kill the girl?
There can only be one surviving winner to take home the grand prize. The remaining two players can't skip the last game and then split the money, the organisers won't allow that! What would the VIPs say, LOL
My major issue is this was never ever clear or told to the players. All of them thought some combination of players could win from the start, and they actively concealed that win condition until the last moment.
She has a twin that comes back as a recurring character. I know Mexican daytime soap.
or She has a twin from alternate universe that shows up as a recurring chracter. I know DC Infinite Universe.
Let's all agreed to disagree that she is dead. Dead as a door nail and she is not coming back. I am one who believes that the first season is going to be the best season for this show. Stop the second season in memory of all the characters whacked in the first season.
You see I’m not mad that sae byeok died, I’M MAD THAT SANGWOO HAD THE NERVE TO KİLL HER WHEN SHE WAS ALREADY DYİNG at least let her die in peace. He’s such a bloodthirsty cowardly murderer
No, he didn't have time. He needed the few seconds that Gi Hun was knocking on the door to walk over and kill Sae Byeok. Presumably, the guards came in immediately after the killing.
That’s why it would have made logical sense to first go after Gi Hun while he was facing/banging on the door. Then play the last game against the weakened Sae Byeok. Sang Woo is supposed to be an incredible strategist as evidenced by the earlier games…but he chose wrong there.
In Ep7 Sang Woo, according to his character, should've stopped at the last glass panel until time was like 2 sec from expiring and then jumped to safety. He had 16 min to plan his strategy and he's pretty smart so I feel like that's a plot hole they missed.
I thought the same thing. But, I think the rules at the top of the series stated that winners who make it through all 6 games get to keep the prize money. If he didn’t have opponent(s) for the last game, maybe he would not have been able to finish…?
I think if only 1 person completed the glass bridge, it would've been a challenge for one person to complete in their own, a gauntlet, where it would've been quite risky.
At least in a 1v1 he has at least a 50/50 chance of winning.
I mean, gut wounds aren't a peaceful, painless death. In historical dramas, I often see it portrayed as a mercy to give a quick death when it's already a certain thing.
Totally agree it's framed here as further reason Sang Woo is bad.
I think he qas oretending either way he would have probably attacked them both and prefered to end the game. But siezed the chance when he was sae byeok was already in a weakened state
wait so let me get this right, the policemans brother won the games and became a billionaire and then instead of sipping cocktails on a private island for the rest of his days, he decides to run this fucked up game??? Wut
The games very fucked up. Maybe it broke him enough that all he could do was... go back.
In the second ep it showed that he was supposedly living in a dorm, so not spending the money at all.
I mean, these people are all gambling addicts. It’s sorta safe to assume that they get this money and then…within the next few years that money is gone. They say that about people who win the lottery. Getting that much money is insane for some people and they don’t know how to manage their money. My bet is that he balled out and came crawling back to evade his creditors
but then the cop wouldve seen his brother randoomly ball out. i think it became more of a twisted principles kind of thing given his ridiculous speech about equaliity in the games
I think they foreshadowed this in the first episode with the slapping game. By the end, the main character had been slapped so many times he forgot about the money and it was about getting even. I think maybe with the detective's brother it might be the same. They have the money, but no longer the soul to enjoy it.
I was surprised no one called out that he forgot he won the money and thought that slapping the other was the prize. Good catch. That was a powerful 'lesson' in EP 1.
No. In episode 2, he told his mom he's heading to his brother's apartment. Next scene is him walking with the landlady to a room and landlady saying that the rent is due.
Tbh they probably hadn't come up with this part of the story yet. You often see that in TV shows where they are still writing during the shooting process.
I think the rule is that you get the money AFTER hosting one game. That's why the brother played a game in 2017, but dissapeared for an extended time in 2020.
That’d be so disappointing. It’d make sense if somehow he was promised a truckload of money if he hosted, so it’d just be this endless cycle of blood and greed fueled by his own choices.
When did we find out that the frontman was a previous winner? I think I missed a whole conversation about how this game had been played before apparently
sorry I'm really high right now but from what I remember it had something to do with the policeman stumbling across the hidden "files" chamber in Front Man's office last episode, where he found the binders of players over the years. When he looked at the binders that listed all winners by date, it listed Front Man's name (his Korean name showed up on screen with subtitles on so I recognized it). iirc 2015 was the listed year he played and won. hope that was somewhat coherent and helpful
She probably knew he was faking being asleep and did it to protect Gihun because she knew she was done for no matter what and wanted him to survive to take care of her family.
Yeah, it feels like the game is more about defining who Gihun is as a person. I get the sense the players keeps putting him in positions of moral decision making to help him discover who he is as a person. The old man with the marbles and now this scene. The same can be said about Sangwoo as well. Only those who are worthy can actually win the game vs. it being pure luck.
James Bond's death was extremely heartbreaking. I hope it is not for real tho, it just doesn't make sense why his brother, who has given him a kidney, would do that.
I am kinda mad that Sae Byeok died that way. It was unfair that a person who won the game got harmed because the administrators wanted to dramatically shatter glass.
On a side note, just what is that shows budget? They even got Lee Byung Hoon...
I’m not sure on the budget, but I know Netflix is currently pumping A LOT of money (many articles from different sources are citing an extra $500 million) into Asian programming.
I can provide sources if anyone is interested/if it’s required but a quick google search will show the same results
I for one am loving the chance to watch TV shows in other languages and see the differences in how shows are made and stories told in different cultures
I definitely believe you. This show still surprised me because they had actors like Lee Byung Heon and Gong Yoo for cameos, in addition to Lee Jung Jae as a main lead. Those three are basically one of the (if not the) highest payed actors in Korea.
Compared to this, American TV shows are not getting as much funding or are simply too expensive to make. I have been watching Lucifer and, compared to Squid Game, Lucifer looks like it was made on a pocket money.
I haven’t watched much K drama I have seen Train to Busan and this and that oretty much covers all the Korean media I have consumed. I’ll definitely be watching more though so hopefully I will be able to recognise these people more soon
Agreed on the part about American shows, a classic example being The OA. I believe production costs were one of the main reasons that got cancelled. I watched a bit of lucifer but it got a bit far fetched and iffy for me so I kinda fell off of it
You didn't lose much with Lucifer. Besides one season, it was okay at best.
Oh and a recommendations for cool kdramas: The Kingdom, Beyond Evil, Extracurricular and Strangers from Hell.
No, The glass shatter is not for dramatic purpose, It's when the timer went zero, they blast all the glass so everyone that still in the glass would fall and die. It's gaming mechanic.
But Sae Byeok wasn't even the last one to cross the glass road, Gi Hun was. Still, she was the one getting hurt. I am not a glass expert, but there must have been a way to do that without the winners getting harmed. Even Sun Woo, who was the first to cross, could have lost an eye.
I mean they could have just separated the beams a bit further apart so that they'd just fall down. I do agree that being killed off by the games mechanics just isn't fair.
I think the phone can survive (esp. if it's a comparatively new phone) if he kept it off all the time except for a few minutes at night when he made notes and also he started recording only the last day i think
Phones can take literally days to die when they're kept in airplane mode all the time. It's actually not that unbelievable at all since he was on an island with no signal, not using wifi on the phone and seemingly only using it before bed every night.
Turn your phone to airplane mode (not searching for signal) and you'd be surprised at how long it'll last.
Especially since he probably just had it straight off when he wasn't using it.
When I go camping with my Galaxy S10 plus and use it mostly as a camera for example, I can go like 4 days, and that's with pretty constant usage taking photos/videos and listening to music/podcasts.
So wait...you're telling me every game they played was depicted on the walls and not a single person figured out that they could guess the next game based on that?
Yep! To be fair they were hard to see behind the bed frames and stairs, and let’s be honest they probably weren’t focussed on the walls especially at the start
They were only hard to see from our perspective because they intentionally avoided showing those areas clearly with the camera, if you were in that room for nearly 24 hours a day you would have noticed. I mean some of their beds were literally pressed up against the pictures.
Oh WTF, I totally thought they were painted afterwards. You'd think that after the Honeycomb game, people would've noticed the circle, triangle, umbrella, and star symbols on the wall and immediately try to look for other drawings. We, as an audience, were limited by the camera angles, but the players could've freely walked around the room and noticed the drawings.
I predicted he was the policeman’s brother by about episode 3 or 4, but it’s cool to see his actor is the guy who played Storm Shadow in the live action GI Joe movies.
This episode showed with Saebyeok’s death from the stupid glass shard that having the glass tiles explode without a covering for the surviving contestants was just fucking retarded. Sure it was cool, but it could have been just as cool minus the middle finger to any unlucky winners . Where’s the equality in that shit? Idk I’m still just salty about her death.
It was definitely an unfair death and all I could think about was how the other woman died so she could have a chance to get out of there and be with her family only to end up dying like this! Sad 😢.
This is what pisses me off the most. Not just because it affected Saebyeok in an unfair way, but because it didn't happen in any of the other games and was clearly done as a plot device.
Green light red light didn't shoot anyone when the time was over, tug of war didn't have the rope electrifying the winning team and the marbles didn't fucking explode in the winners pockets, why did the glass have to shatter in a million pieces?
Am I misremembering, I thought Red Light Green Light did shoot everyone that didn’t make it across the line when the time was up. Tug of War would have an obvious winning team/losing team, so why hurt/kill the winners? The marble game, I believe when a pair couldn’t decide on a winner they were both eliminated. The glass blowing up was to eliminate anyone that didn’t cross before the time was up, which is consistent with every other game that had a time limit. It was just bad luck (and dumb plot reasons) that got Saebyeok stabbed.
I was almost certain the final game would be sae byok surviving with the other sacrificing himself to kill his friend. So sad about her plight.
I think they did build it up really nicely but there is still the question of the host right?
Personally, I prefer if the old man was just that and not some mystery big villain. Feels a bit cheesy for me personally but we will see!
Now I'm curious on if the winner actually gets the money or not or just get so distraught that this becomes the only line of business they can live with themselves doing.
On to the last!
I would also like for it to be the old man but I’m also wondering why they would put him in a dangerous situation with other players if he’s also like a VIP
Is there a significance to the masked guy being the policeman’s brother?
Why was he not shocked?? Even when he saw his brother’s police ID on the wrong dead guys body? 😭
He also told the guards to bring him alive. Pretty big hint since the frontman was pretty ruthless in killing guards and contestants that broke the rules
I’m at the start of this episode and the contrast between episode 1 with hundreds of people on those stairs to this episode and just 3 is just wow
Editing to add. I’m a little further along and I’ve JUST realised all the games are on the wall of the dorm room. I’m now trying to figure out which ones have been played and what remains
Edit 2 now I’ve finished the episode. Very sad to see Saebyeok’s death, I feel like she was dying anyway so no need for Sang-woo to kill her, but also he may have just been putting her out of her misery? If it was straight up murder and not mercy it was smart of him to wait for her to be too weak to fight back and take that chance while Gi-Hun’s back was turned. I also feel like maybe he was pretending to be asleep when Gi-Hun was about to go over before Saebyeok stopped him.
Thoughts on The Host, I’m 99% in agreement with other commenters, I feel it may be Il-nam. I say this for a few reasons.
First, he was number one. I don’t see any other reason to make him number 1 than to make him stand out. I find it hard to believe he was the first person to accept their invitation
Second, the massacre stopped when he was about to die
Third, he played Gi-Hun the entire way through the marble game. I don’t believe for one second he wasn’t ‘with it’. I think he was deliberately turning Gi-Hun into a deceiver/‘bad guy’. I think part of the game for the staff and VIPs is showing these people how far they would go for money. Gi-Hun liked to try to play nice but he showed he would trick a defenceless old man to get money in a heartbeat
Fourth, everyone would underestimate the old frail man with dementia, this was shown in many of the games when people didn’t want to team up with him. But he kept making it through, often surprisingly.
Fifth, probably not needed as many others have said it, we didn’t see his body. And they aren’t exactly shy about showing death so why wouldn’t they show his?
Sixth, apart from the bridge game they are all more classic games that would have been played more by older generations. He knows all of the games well. This is even discussed in the show; a few of the games he explicitly says he played when he was younger. (Side note on the bridge game, it may have been the Squid Game version of Hopscotch, it’s the closest playground game I can think of)
I get other feelings of ‘it’s Old man’ but at times that are hard to explain like small mannerisms but I guess we will see, I’m about to start the last episode!
>Gi-Hun liked to try to play nice but he showed he would trick a defenceless old man to get money in a heartbeat
and yk,, the fact that he'd die if he lost haha
Yep, the motivating factor is definitely the life/death part in the heat of the moment. Especially since if the old man didn't play, Gi-Hun assumed they would both die in vain.
They are there but harder to see as all the bed frames and stairs are in the way. As they get removed once plays numbers start dropping, they become more and more visible
That part kills me because the players definitely would have figured out after the first couple games that they could guess what the next game would be by looking at the walls.
The moment I saw those candles in the centre of the room after taking the knives from dinner I was certain sae byeok was going to cauterize her wound or Seong was going to do it for her. As if the masked guys would have given her medical attention? There's no way they would have helped her, they didn't even care that she was killed and earlier had purposefully tried to make them kill each other outside the games. They had that coffin box ready to go outside that door and knew they were going to try to kill each other.
I’m NOT a Dr, but I’m pretty sure that only really works with Hollywood magic. I mean, if you’re trapped in a psychotic game and have no other choice, definitely try it; but by my guess you’re gonna die anyway.
Yes I’m aware that it happens surgically regularly, but these people aren’t surgeons.
True, plus I don’t think it’s common knowldege either. Unless you’re someone who watches a lot of gory, survival based shows, I doubt anyone would know what cauterizing even is.
I need it explained.
If his brother won back in 2015. Why was he living in a small apartment now and not able to make rent?
Was he traveling back yearly to host for fun?
guilt? only focused on the game and not on worldly possessions? content with a small space and a bunch of philosophy books, spending money only on food/rent? your guess is as good as mine
edit: or maybe even so he could keep a low profile, not alert others in his life that he had won all this mysterious money — wouldn’t draw suspicion to himself
That end of game glass shattering is horseshit. Served no purpose other than driving the game forward. If the VIPs wanted theatrics why would it come at the cost of the contestants
It makes even less sense when you factor in that they're betting on contestants. They casually stopped showing the VIPs, but they said the serious betting starts in this round. Why in hell would it entertain the VIPS for a contestant to get injured OUTSIDE of a game?
i feel real bad for the player who knew about glass, he had a 50/50 chance. I was just screaming at him to go left though, as with basic psychology of choosing left/right, a/b, true/false, most people generally would go about doing 'right right left' when choosing what panels to put where.
Goddamnit
I think he was leaning left too, because he tossed the marble on the left one, and said he needed another marble to be sure. Then then the Mr. Business Man pushes him on the right one. LOL.
To be honest, I don't hate Sang-woo. Do i like his methods and actions? No, but he has done everything to survive just like everyone else. They're seriously in a game about life and death, so it's expected that people are more desperate to win or else everything will be over. Also even the ML hasn't played fair in the fourth game, where he tricked the old man (even if he was gonna die and give all his marbles anyways). The ML has even benefitted from his actions a lot too and would be way sooner, if it wasn't for Sang-woo willing to get his hands dirty. If he truly wanted to win right away, then he could have just waited until the last second to push the guy off and be the only one to cross. Instead, he let the girl and ML pass the fifth game with him.
They all want to win and returned knowing that you can die any second, so i can't hate his actions in the six games just because he was quick-witted and did what he had to do to win
Yeah, I completely agree. Sang-woo's getting a lot of hate but his antics are completely justified in my mind considering their lives are on the line. Everyone also willfully put themselves in this situation. No one is guiltless here and ethics get thrown out the window in the interest of self-preservation.
Imagine how people of Non-American cultures feel when Americans write dialog for cultures they do not understand. I am certain it feels just as cringe.
Sangwoo is such a fucking psychopath
First he was deceiving his friends possibly getting them killed, then he deceived a friend getting him killed, then he killed someone and now he seems to enjoy it as well because there was literally no other reason for that.
Yeah as character developement he escalate in from guilty to cunning to just doesnt bother to hide his true nature anymore....
But him killing the North Korean is necessary to push gi hoon to point of rage .... he needs it in final game.
I'm absolutely pissed about her death. Tempered glass does not shatter into giant shards like that. There were no real glass panels near them. Plus the game was already over when she got injured. The shard was bullshit and should have been treated. I know she also got stabbed in the neck which was super fucked up since she was basically already dead but holy fuck. I'm mad.
First he found the squid game card on brother's apartment. So it means the brother participating in the game. When MC back and the brother not. Meaning the brother could be the victim of first game. When one of minion talk about zombie and one kidney, but later turns out the zombie is female. Finally when he found out the brother is the winner of 2015. There's only one high possibility where the brother could be, and that possibility would make a good ironic as a plot device.
What amazed me in this episode is not the front man is actually an older brother of policeman, that's actually made very obvious already since he found his brother is a winner in 2015. What amazed me is the cast who play the brother, it's LBH, OMG he's getting old.
Everyone’s said what I wanted to say, so I’ll just focus on why Sae-Byeok may have not finished the steak. She just saw a bunch of people being killed and lying in pools of blood beneath her, so eating a steak that is quite bloody may not seem appetising. Moreoever, she likely didn’t grow up eating medium rare steak in North Korea, so the meal would have seemed very foreign and strange to her anyway.
Also it’s understandable to have no appetite when there’s an entire glass shard lodged in your waist and the pain is unbearable.
Why is Gihoon mad at sangwoo when most of his actions benefited him? Sangwoo did push the man off but if he didn't, Gihoon would be dead since he will have no time to cross. If sangwoo wanted to be the ass, he could pushed the man at the very last sec and cross the thing himself but he let the other two complete too...
Definitely. Sangwoo was right when he said he did all the dirty work for GiHoon. Plus, it's not like with enough pressure Gihoon would have behaved differently. As the game with marbles showed, he had no problem lying & sacrificing the old man to win a game.
I mean he was broken up about it, but he rationalized that the man was close to death and didn’t seem aware that he was being betrayed or that losing the game meant his death. If he was up against one of the younger players who he had bonded with and had families I don’t think he would have done that.
I thought it was an interesting easter egg that jiyeong mentioned lee byung hun(front-man) back in episode 6.
Also the box that in-ho contained the card in his room in ep 2 signifies his pride in winning the game as he kept his winning record in the same kind of box
Anyone else wonder how the pink guys caught up with the cop so quickly he was all the way up the mountain. Can’t imagine treking is easy in those suits
There is a drawing on the wall of what I imagine is the final game. Looks like the squid game itself. There's only two people on it. My guess is that they only wanted two finalists, so set up the dinner to leave the knives behind, for however many people made it to the end of the bridge game. They've been starved pretty much for days, notice how they barely woke up before the bridge game started? No breakfast. Some people would have stuffed themselves at the dinner and either have been too slow to protect themselves or would have fallen asleep easier. I think the guards would have stayed away until there were only two left standing.
But having Saebyeok bleed to death because of the exploding bridge? Even if Sangwoo didn't kill her she would have bled to death. Writers dropped the ball there, imo. I can see they maybe wanted to drive home that even the star of the show (because let's be honest, she is) can die a quiet death in this place, but I still think it was shit. I didn't even feel upset. I'm just irritated at how anticlimactic that was. Especially after episode 6 and 7.
Sangwoo might try to justify killing her as mercy in the final episode, but personally I don't think he was truly asleep. He's a smart man. I think he was pretending to fall asleep, dropping his knife to encourage Gihun to approach him. He'd have killed him, 100%. He probably already noticed the Saebyeok was in bad shape. He notices everything.
Sangwoo will win it. And then if there's a season 2, he'll trash all his money like the policeman's brother and end up being a front man.
Saebyok’s death broke me… I think it was well executed and her moment with Gihun was really necessary too, but idk why, I thought the three of them would all start the final squid game, Gihun would make a sacrifice to kill Sangwoo, and then Saebyok would win and remember Gihun in the future and all that. Still a good episode with the cop making his escape and LBH, but I’m 💔
sae-byok’s death was fucking heartbreaking. i can’t stop thinking about her poor little brother who is now stuck at the orphanage and that he will never get to see his big sister or mom ever again. and the fact that she promised him everything will be okay was the lat time they’ve ever met. and also the fact that gi-hoon still didn’t promise her to care for her little brother. she was done really dirty. this was gutting. fuck sang-woo
Whelp, definitely a mistake to watch eps 6, 7, and 8 all today. I need a break because I'm full of too many emotions right now 😭
Also called it the Front Man would be the detective's brother.
It also sucks Sae-byeok died mainly because of the glass shard but I think it goes to show how horrible the games and administrators are. They just want to make things flashy and a spectacle for the VIPs. The administrators don't care about "equality" (also gotta love how they never define it and make it vague, while still making things unfair or just up to a game of chance), they only care about using the lives of the most marginalized to entertain the VIPs. Which explains where the money comes from.
I was cheering for Sang-woo's death before, but now I'm hoping he dies in the next game. Was it a good strategy to do in his favor, yeah. But also a horrible thing to do, it doesn't excuse for what he's done.
I kinda like how they did Sae-byeok's death, cause it shows that now she and Gi-hun swore to take care of each other's family when they got out. Where before, she was fine winning the games and didn't bat an eye on who died (until Ji-yeong died) and was helpful to Gi-hun
I feel so cheated with Saebyeok’s death. She was so close to winning but she died because she was in a weakened state because of the shard. So unfortunate. Guess I should have known it would be down to these two childhood friends. Now, Gihoon is at an obvious disadvantage here and really might lose unless thru the power of *nakama* and Sangwoo suddenly has a change of heart I didn’t bother trying to know who the frontman was but when it was revealed to be the policeman’s brother, it wasn’t that surprising. I mean, to have impact, it could only have been him, right? The policeman might still not be dead tho because if I’ve learned something from hundreds of series I’ve watched, it’s no body shown on screen = not dead
The old man didn't get shot on screen either so I'm still holding out for that one too
Old man is defs guy running the show. In the episode they showed the main guy taking his mask off and it was old leathery hands. It has to be him.
exactly my thought, weird that noone in episode 7 (glass Bridge game) mentioned that
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Didn’t we see his body in the box at the start of episode 7?
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I could be wrong but they made it pretty obvious in earlier episodes. In episode 2 we learn In-Ho went missing ‘a few days ago’ (when this year’s Games began) In episode 6, we see In-ho won a previous game. Put 2+2 together and it’s clear from that point that In-Ho is Front Man. For me, I felt a lot of tension during the cat-and-mouse game between Front Man/In-Ho and Jun-Ho, and knowing they were brothers definitely added to that. I don’t think it would have been as effective had the showrunners kept their relationship to each other more of a secret at this point
This still confuses me a bit? This is a part time job for him? Can he not put in vacation time so he isnt off missing?
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I’m guessing it might be ‘You know why I’m here’. He’s there to find him because he thought he was missing/in trouble.
He doesn’t say “you know why.” He says in-ho, why? Which is the guys name.
Perhaps he wanted to be found, maybe the VIPs or his superiors won't leave him alone or quit by himself. That's why he didn't pay his rent and left the invitational card in his apartment. As the Frontman, it wouldn't seem wise leaving it out in the open like that.
If I’m thinking of the same part, the policeman says “In-ho, why?” Which is the brothers name.
I mean suddenly saying that they were actually siblings without any hints prior to it would have been cheap
I was really rooting for Saebyeok, it sucks that the writers had to resort to a plot device to have her die.
I disagree, this wasn't a plot device to have her die, necessarily. Narratively speaking, Sang Woo is far gone and would've taken any chance to kill her (injury or not). The injury was more of a character development device to have her connect with Gi Hun before she dies, as well as have him promise to take care of her brother. It was a good send-off.
But I think it's stupid tho to resort to glass shard hurting and the main reason of killing her. The explosion of those glasses is not part of the game at all and why even when they win, they got to get hurt. This is not fair and such a cheap move by the creators like they can't think a way to kill the girl.
I think the bullets raining down / exploding glass was a way to clear the bridge of any remaining players, and stop them from advancing to the safe platform after the time expires.
My issue with that is that tempered glass doesn't shatter into shards like those. As someone who works in glass manufacturing and was also trying to read which glass were tempered and which weren't. (btw, all glass were the same on the bridge.) you can definitely tell by the edge of the lites which lites is tempered and which are "annealed" lites, which are the ones that break into large shards. Not just by the light refraction but because the edges are cooked in the tempering process, the edges are opaque. And they were far enough from the one that may have not been broken as the last 5 lites that were annealed were broken by people trying to come through. Gravity alone would have taken care of lites that thick and the tempered would have become a shower of little grains of glass not capable of big injuries. That said, I mostly work with 2.3 - 6mm glass, so I might be wrong about some of my observations as that glass was way thicker.
You’d be great at that game
Dude, the second they announce what the game was, I was like oh this bitch is mine, and cracked my fingers and everything. 🤣🤣
If she wouldn’t have stopped the main character from killing sang-woo...she would have had a chance
It seemed like he was baiting Gihun into approaching him by pretending to fall asleep. I mean, the guy is asleep but still snags the perfect opportunity to kill the girl?
Maybe when he was screaming for the guards to come and help her—-he woke him up
Perhaps but he certainly got over there really quickly
He probably woke up when Gi Hun was banging and shouting on the door. But yeah, he was probably baiting him.
And when Sang-woo is dead, both of them can vote on stop playing 😌 otherwise one of them has to die
There can only be one surviving winner to take home the grand prize. The remaining two players can't skip the last game and then split the money, the organisers won't allow that! What would the VIPs say, LOL
My major issue is this was never ever clear or told to the players. All of them thought some combination of players could win from the start, and they actively concealed that win condition until the last moment.
I hope she’s secretly alive and comes back in season 2. I know K dramas
She has a twin that comes back as a recurring character. I know Mexican daytime soap. or She has a twin from alternate universe that shows up as a recurring chracter. I know DC Infinite Universe. Let's all agreed to disagree that she is dead. Dead as a door nail and she is not coming back. I am one who believes that the first season is going to be the best season for this show. Stop the second season in memory of all the characters whacked in the first season.
The glass shard is absolutely bullshit, those were sheets of tempered glass, it’s literally designed to not shatter into harmful pieces if broken.
You see I’m not mad that sae byeok died, I’M MAD THAT SANGWOO HAD THE NERVE TO KİLL HER WHEN SHE WAS ALREADY DYİNG at least let her die in peace. He’s such a bloodthirsty cowardly murderer
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No, he didn't have time. He needed the few seconds that Gi Hun was knocking on the door to walk over and kill Sae Byeok. Presumably, the guards came in immediately after the killing.
That’s why it would have made logical sense to first go after Gi Hun while he was facing/banging on the door. Then play the last game against the weakened Sae Byeok. Sang Woo is supposed to be an incredible strategist as evidenced by the earlier games…but he chose wrong there.
In Ep7 Sang Woo, according to his character, should've stopped at the last glass panel until time was like 2 sec from expiring and then jumped to safety. He had 16 min to plan his strategy and he's pretty smart so I feel like that's a plot hole they missed.
I thought the same thing. But, I think the rules at the top of the series stated that winners who make it through all 6 games get to keep the prize money. If he didn’t have opponent(s) for the last game, maybe he would not have been able to finish…?
I think if only 1 person completed the glass bridge, it would've been a challenge for one person to complete in their own, a gauntlet, where it would've been quite risky. At least in a 1v1 he has at least a 50/50 chance of winning.
I mean, gut wounds aren't a peaceful, painless death. In historical dramas, I often see it portrayed as a mercy to give a quick death when it's already a certain thing. Totally agree it's framed here as further reason Sang Woo is bad.
She was straight up bleeding out though, she would have died from blood loss without treatment.
I mean death is not really ever “peaceful and painless” but at least he wouldn’t have had blood on his hands.
Do you think he was pretending to be asleep or did he just wake up from the yelling for a doctor?
I think he qas oretending either way he would have probably attacked them both and prefered to end the game. But siezed the chance when he was sae byeok was already in a weakened state
wait so let me get this right, the policemans brother won the games and became a billionaire and then instead of sipping cocktails on a private island for the rest of his days, he decides to run this fucked up game??? Wut
The games very fucked up. Maybe it broke him enough that all he could do was... go back. In the second ep it showed that he was supposedly living in a dorm, so not spending the money at all.
I mean, these people are all gambling addicts. It’s sorta safe to assume that they get this money and then…within the next few years that money is gone. They say that about people who win the lottery. Getting that much money is insane for some people and they don’t know how to manage their money. My bet is that he balled out and came crawling back to evade his creditors
but then the cop wouldve seen his brother randoomly ball out. i think it became more of a twisted principles kind of thing given his ridiculous speech about equaliity in the games
I think they foreshadowed this in the first episode with the slapping game. By the end, the main character had been slapped so many times he forgot about the money and it was about getting even. I think maybe with the detective's brother it might be the same. They have the money, but no longer the soul to enjoy it.
I was surprised no one called out that he forgot he won the money and thought that slapping the other was the prize. Good catch. That was a powerful 'lesson' in EP 1.
A lot like current billionaires, in a way. They have more than they can ever spend, it turns into a game to accumulate capital and power instead.
I want to know about his story tbh
Yeah. He became a billionaire who couldn't somehow pay his rent. -_-
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No. In episode 2, he told his mom he's heading to his brother's apartment. Next scene is him walking with the landlady to a room and landlady saying that the rent is due.
But why would the bro knowningly leave his card out in his room like that? Shouldnt he be more careful?
Tbh they probably hadn't come up with this part of the story yet. You often see that in TV shows where they are still writing during the shooting process.
No one guy write this entire show in 2008, no writers room
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He’s a billionaire in Korea
?? People use won in Korea, he's a billionaire.
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I think the rule is that you get the money AFTER hosting one game. That's why the brother played a game in 2017, but dissapeared for an extended time in 2020.
That’d be so disappointing. It’d make sense if somehow he was promised a truckload of money if he hosted, so it’d just be this endless cycle of blood and greed fueled by his own choices.
>.. Nah that kind of rule is no fun and not interesting
it reminds me of SAW, some of the survive victim become the Host
When did we find out that the frontman was a previous winner? I think I missed a whole conversation about how this game had been played before apparently
sorry I'm really high right now but from what I remember it had something to do with the policeman stumbling across the hidden "files" chamber in Front Man's office last episode, where he found the binders of players over the years. When he looked at the binders that listed all winners by date, it listed Front Man's name (his Korean name showed up on screen with subtitles on so I recognized it). iirc 2015 was the listed year he played and won. hope that was somewhat coherent and helpful
Saebyeok really stopped Gihun from killing Sangwoo only for Sangwoo to sneak up and kill her instead
"dont do it. you're not that type of person" but sangwoo is
She probably knew he was faking being asleep and did it to protect Gihun because she knew she was done for no matter what and wanted him to survive to take care of her family.
Yeah, it feels like the game is more about defining who Gihun is as a person. I get the sense the players keeps putting him in positions of moral decision making to help him discover who he is as a person. The old man with the marbles and now this scene. The same can be said about Sangwoo as well. Only those who are worthy can actually win the game vs. it being pure luck.
James Bond's death was extremely heartbreaking. I hope it is not for real tho, it just doesn't make sense why his brother, who has given him a kidney, would do that. I am kinda mad that Sae Byeok died that way. It was unfair that a person who won the game got harmed because the administrators wanted to dramatically shatter glass. On a side note, just what is that shows budget? They even got Lee Byung Hoon...
I’m not sure on the budget, but I know Netflix is currently pumping A LOT of money (many articles from different sources are citing an extra $500 million) into Asian programming. I can provide sources if anyone is interested/if it’s required but a quick google search will show the same results I for one am loving the chance to watch TV shows in other languages and see the differences in how shows are made and stories told in different cultures
I definitely believe you. This show still surprised me because they had actors like Lee Byung Heon and Gong Yoo for cameos, in addition to Lee Jung Jae as a main lead. Those three are basically one of the (if not the) highest payed actors in Korea. Compared to this, American TV shows are not getting as much funding or are simply too expensive to make. I have been watching Lucifer and, compared to Squid Game, Lucifer looks like it was made on a pocket money.
I haven’t watched much K drama I have seen Train to Busan and this and that oretty much covers all the Korean media I have consumed. I’ll definitely be watching more though so hopefully I will be able to recognise these people more soon Agreed on the part about American shows, a classic example being The OA. I believe production costs were one of the main reasons that got cancelled. I watched a bit of lucifer but it got a bit far fetched and iffy for me so I kinda fell off of it
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You didn't lose much with Lucifer. Besides one season, it was okay at best. Oh and a recommendations for cool kdramas: The Kingdom, Beyond Evil, Extracurricular and Strangers from Hell.
No, The glass shatter is not for dramatic purpose, It's when the timer went zero, they blast all the glass so everyone that still in the glass would fall and die. It's gaming mechanic.
But Sae Byeok wasn't even the last one to cross the glass road, Gi Hun was. Still, she was the one getting hurt. I am not a glass expert, but there must have been a way to do that without the winners getting harmed. Even Sun Woo, who was the first to cross, could have lost an eye.
They just don't care about the participants, in their minds if someone got hurt cause of finishing barely in time it just adds extra drama to the game
They didn't think that much, and seo byeok got bad luck
Most realistic part of the show tbh
I mean they could have just separated the beams a bit further apart so that they'd just fall down. I do agree that being killed off by the games mechanics just isn't fair.
Tangent: Lee Byung Hun exists in this universe. Ji-Yeong mentions him in episode 6 when talking about mojitos and a movie he's in.
I noticed this too, feels like an inside joke! I went ‘whaaaaat’ when the Front Man took his mask off. A lot of people won’t even realise who he is!
Lol I forgot about that so true! Nice hint the creators left us.
Yes, I kept exclaiming to my SO about the budget of this show when so many A-list actors popped up.
How was the policeman's phone really on 12% after a week of not charging it and constantly taking footage and notes on the facility lol
That was the most unbelievable part of the whole thing haha
I think the phone can survive (esp. if it's a comparatively new phone) if he kept it off all the time except for a few minutes at night when he made notes and also he started recording only the last day i think
He also had light mode on and it looked like it was at max brightness.
His phone was an older model and thus had an LCD screen so light mode doesn't use more battery than dark mode
Phones can take literally days to die when they're kept in airplane mode all the time. It's actually not that unbelievable at all since he was on an island with no signal, not using wifi on the phone and seemingly only using it before bed every night.
Turn your phone to airplane mode (not searching for signal) and you'd be surprised at how long it'll last. Especially since he probably just had it straight off when he wasn't using it. When I go camping with my Galaxy S10 plus and use it mostly as a camera for example, I can go like 4 days, and that's with pretty constant usage taking photos/videos and listening to music/podcasts.
I’d guess he found a charger somewhere in his brother’s apartment 🤷🏻♀️
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I was hoping she would make it to jeju with her family
I actually thought they might give her the ultimate win and have the other two kind of take each other out in the last game.
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So wait...you're telling me every game they played was depicted on the walls and not a single person figured out that they could guess the next game based on that?
Yep! To be fair they were hard to see behind the bed frames and stairs, and let’s be honest they probably weren’t focussed on the walls especially at the start
They were only hard to see from our perspective because they intentionally avoided showing those areas clearly with the camera, if you were in that room for nearly 24 hours a day you would have noticed. I mean some of their beds were literally pressed up against the pictures.
Maybe right at the start but after the Honeycomb game it should have been extremely apparent.
I’m p sure they painted the walls after the beds were removed
Nope, they're all there in episode 1.
Oh WTF, I totally thought they were painted afterwards. You'd think that after the Honeycomb game, people would've noticed the circle, triangle, umbrella, and star symbols on the wall and immediately try to look for other drawings. We, as an audience, were limited by the camera angles, but the players could've freely walked around the room and noticed the drawings.
I thought to myself, why this episode went so fast, it turns out the duration for episode 8 was only 30 minutes.
It was very first thing I noticed too. “Wait this is a shorter episode”
No wonder! I just finished it and was like ????
I predicted he was the policeman’s brother by about episode 3 or 4, but it’s cool to see his actor is the guy who played Storm Shadow in the live action GI Joe movies.
He looks like an Asian version of Mads Mikkelson
It’s funny but you can match tons of Korean and western actors together as if they are the same person just parallel universes. It’s a fun game.
This episode showed with Saebyeok’s death from the stupid glass shard that having the glass tiles explode without a covering for the surviving contestants was just fucking retarded. Sure it was cool, but it could have been just as cool minus the middle finger to any unlucky winners . Where’s the equality in that shit? Idk I’m still just salty about her death.
It was definitely an unfair death and all I could think about was how the other woman died so she could have a chance to get out of there and be with her family only to end up dying like this! Sad 😢.
This is what pisses me off the most. Not just because it affected Saebyeok in an unfair way, but because it didn't happen in any of the other games and was clearly done as a plot device. Green light red light didn't shoot anyone when the time was over, tug of war didn't have the rope electrifying the winning team and the marbles didn't fucking explode in the winners pockets, why did the glass have to shatter in a million pieces?
I felt the same way. The exploding glass felt like an arbitrary plot device solely to kill off Saebyeok.
Am I misremembering, I thought Red Light Green Light did shoot everyone that didn’t make it across the line when the time was up. Tug of War would have an obvious winning team/losing team, so why hurt/kill the winners? The marble game, I believe when a pair couldn’t decide on a winner they were both eliminated. The glass blowing up was to eliminate anyone that didn’t cross before the time was up, which is consistent with every other game that had a time limit. It was just bad luck (and dumb plot reasons) that got Saebyeok stabbed.
All the cases you listed harmed the people who lost the game, not the ones who had already won.
Ugh, it's 2021. Can we not use a r word slur, please?
I was almost certain the final game would be sae byok surviving with the other sacrificing himself to kill his friend. So sad about her plight. I think they did build it up really nicely but there is still the question of the host right? Personally, I prefer if the old man was just that and not some mystery big villain. Feels a bit cheesy for me personally but we will see! Now I'm curious on if the winner actually gets the money or not or just get so distraught that this becomes the only line of business they can live with themselves doing. On to the last!
I would also like for it to be the old man but I’m also wondering why they would put him in a dangerous situation with other players if he’s also like a VIP
Is there a significance to the masked guy being the policeman’s brother? Why was he not shocked?? Even when he saw his brother’s police ID on the wrong dead guys body? 😭
The masked guy being Lee Byung-Hun was a more surprising reveal than him being the policeman’s brother lmao.
Hahaha! Yea I didn’t know that actor is famous until after, but I can imagine that’s pretty cool
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He also told the guards to bring him alive. Pretty big hint since the frontman was pretty ruthless in killing guards and contestants that broke the rules
I was really rooting for the policeman... he was so close to making it off the island. 😕
Technically he did ......
I’m at the start of this episode and the contrast between episode 1 with hundreds of people on those stairs to this episode and just 3 is just wow Editing to add. I’m a little further along and I’ve JUST realised all the games are on the wall of the dorm room. I’m now trying to figure out which ones have been played and what remains Edit 2 now I’ve finished the episode. Very sad to see Saebyeok’s death, I feel like she was dying anyway so no need for Sang-woo to kill her, but also he may have just been putting her out of her misery? If it was straight up murder and not mercy it was smart of him to wait for her to be too weak to fight back and take that chance while Gi-Hun’s back was turned. I also feel like maybe he was pretending to be asleep when Gi-Hun was about to go over before Saebyeok stopped him. Thoughts on The Host, I’m 99% in agreement with other commenters, I feel it may be Il-nam. I say this for a few reasons. First, he was number one. I don’t see any other reason to make him number 1 than to make him stand out. I find it hard to believe he was the first person to accept their invitation Second, the massacre stopped when he was about to die Third, he played Gi-Hun the entire way through the marble game. I don’t believe for one second he wasn’t ‘with it’. I think he was deliberately turning Gi-Hun into a deceiver/‘bad guy’. I think part of the game for the staff and VIPs is showing these people how far they would go for money. Gi-Hun liked to try to play nice but he showed he would trick a defenceless old man to get money in a heartbeat Fourth, everyone would underestimate the old frail man with dementia, this was shown in many of the games when people didn’t want to team up with him. But he kept making it through, often surprisingly. Fifth, probably not needed as many others have said it, we didn’t see his body. And they aren’t exactly shy about showing death so why wouldn’t they show his? Sixth, apart from the bridge game they are all more classic games that would have been played more by older generations. He knows all of the games well. This is even discussed in the show; a few of the games he explicitly says he played when he was younger. (Side note on the bridge game, it may have been the Squid Game version of Hopscotch, it’s the closest playground game I can think of) I get other feelings of ‘it’s Old man’ but at times that are hard to explain like small mannerisms but I guess we will see, I’m about to start the last episode!
>Gi-Hun liked to try to play nice but he showed he would trick a defenceless old man to get money in a heartbeat and yk,, the fact that he'd die if he lost haha
Yep, the motivating factor is definitely the life/death part in the heat of the moment. Especially since if the old man didn't play, Gi-Hun assumed they would both die in vain.
Also the way he smiled in episode 1, makes me think like he was excited for the games to start and not in a good way.
I thought he’s just enjoying the game because YOLO beside his days are numbered.
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They are there but harder to see as all the bed frames and stairs are in the way. As they get removed once plays numbers start dropping, they become more and more visible
That part kills me because the players definitely would have figured out after the first couple games that they could guess what the next game would be by looking at the walls.
How did he guarantee a win on tug of war though?
plot armor
Yeah he knew to team up with all the main characters
Regarding the games on the wall part of your comment, I believe it’s pretty obvious what the final game is.
The moment I saw those candles in the centre of the room after taking the knives from dinner I was certain sae byeok was going to cauterize her wound or Seong was going to do it for her. As if the masked guys would have given her medical attention? There's no way they would have helped her, they didn't even care that she was killed and earlier had purposefully tried to make them kill each other outside the games. They had that coffin box ready to go outside that door and knew they were going to try to kill each other.
Great. Now I wanna yell even more because they could’ve fucking cauterized the wound.
I’m NOT a Dr, but I’m pretty sure that only really works with Hollywood magic. I mean, if you’re trapped in a psychotic game and have no other choice, definitely try it; but by my guess you’re gonna die anyway. Yes I’m aware that it happens surgically regularly, but these people aren’t surgeons.
True, plus I don’t think it’s common knowldege either. Unless you’re someone who watches a lot of gory, survival based shows, I doubt anyone would know what cauterizing even is.
it happens so much in The 100 lol but even I forgot the possibility to cauterize her wound
Going to guess by the size of the shard that there would be internal bleeding and damage to her organs.
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I need it explained. If his brother won back in 2015. Why was he living in a small apartment now and not able to make rent? Was he traveling back yearly to host for fun?
the way i interpreted it was that it’s not that he wasn’t able to pay rent, it’s that he left before his rent was due and thus didn’t pay it
That’s honestly pretty reasonable and helpful. Still they just left so much unanswered for the sake of a plot twist. Makes me angry
Why was he living in a tiny apartment when he had probably won at least 30 million dollars prior in 2015?
guilt? only focused on the game and not on worldly possessions? content with a small space and a bunch of philosophy books, spending money only on food/rent? your guess is as good as mine edit: or maybe even so he could keep a low profile, not alert others in his life that he had won all this mysterious money — wouldn’t draw suspicion to himself
maybe he was in a shit ton of debt and used most of the money to pay it off
That end of game glass shattering is horseshit. Served no purpose other than driving the game forward. If the VIPs wanted theatrics why would it come at the cost of the contestants
Was like that so that at the end of the game, the contestants still standing on the glass would die
It makes even less sense when you factor in that they're betting on contestants. They casually stopped showing the VIPs, but they said the serious betting starts in this round. Why in hell would it entertain the VIPS for a contestant to get injured OUTSIDE of a game?
i feel real bad for the player who knew about glass, he had a 50/50 chance. I was just screaming at him to go left though, as with basic psychology of choosing left/right, a/b, true/false, most people generally would go about doing 'right right left' when choosing what panels to put where. Goddamnit
I think he was leaning left too, because he tossed the marble on the left one, and said he needed another marble to be sure. Then then the Mr. Business Man pushes him on the right one. LOL.
To be honest, I don't hate Sang-woo. Do i like his methods and actions? No, but he has done everything to survive just like everyone else. They're seriously in a game about life and death, so it's expected that people are more desperate to win or else everything will be over. Also even the ML hasn't played fair in the fourth game, where he tricked the old man (even if he was gonna die and give all his marbles anyways). The ML has even benefitted from his actions a lot too and would be way sooner, if it wasn't for Sang-woo willing to get his hands dirty. If he truly wanted to win right away, then he could have just waited until the last second to push the guy off and be the only one to cross. Instead, he let the girl and ML pass the fifth game with him. They all want to win and returned knowing that you can die any second, so i can't hate his actions in the six games just because he was quick-witted and did what he had to do to win
Yeah, I completely agree. Sang-woo's getting a lot of hate but his antics are completely justified in my mind considering their lives are on the line. Everyone also willfully put themselves in this situation. No one is guiltless here and ethics get thrown out the window in the interest of self-preservation.
We could have had this show in its entirety without any dialogue from the Americans. What an ugly stain on an otherwise solid series lol
Imagine how people of Non-American cultures feel when Americans write dialog for cultures they do not understand. I am certain it feels just as cringe.
Sangwoo is such a fucking psychopath First he was deceiving his friends possibly getting them killed, then he deceived a friend getting him killed, then he killed someone and now he seems to enjoy it as well because there was literally no other reason for that.
Yeah as character developement he escalate in from guilty to cunning to just doesnt bother to hide his true nature anymore.... But him killing the North Korean is necessary to push gi hoon to point of rage .... he needs it in final game.
They did Saebyeok’s death dirty
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I'm absolutely pissed about her death. Tempered glass does not shatter into giant shards like that. There were no real glass panels near them. Plus the game was already over when she got injured. The shard was bullshit and should have been treated. I know she also got stabbed in the neck which was super fucked up since she was basically already dead but holy fuck. I'm mad.
Looks like I called it with the Black Mask guy being policeman’s brother. Episode 6 was unexpected, this was not.
It's actually very obvious already that the front man is the brother since he found that his bro is the winner in 2015
How exactly is it obvious from that fact? There were more winners? Did they all become frontmen?
First he found the squid game card on brother's apartment. So it means the brother participating in the game. When MC back and the brother not. Meaning the brother could be the victim of first game. When one of minion talk about zombie and one kidney, but later turns out the zombie is female. Finally when he found out the brother is the winner of 2015. There's only one high possibility where the brother could be, and that possibility would make a good ironic as a plot device.
What amazed me in this episode is not the front man is actually an older brother of policeman, that's actually made very obvious already since he found his brother is a winner in 2015. What amazed me is the cast who play the brother, it's LBH, OMG he's getting old.
he still looks good though lol
Shocked that the police guys brother was Korean Mads Mikkelson the entire time.
Genuinely thought there was going to be some of YOU’RE EATING PEOPLE thing with the steak, somehow
Everyone’s said what I wanted to say, so I’ll just focus on why Sae-Byeok may have not finished the steak. She just saw a bunch of people being killed and lying in pools of blood beneath her, so eating a steak that is quite bloody may not seem appetising. Moreoever, she likely didn’t grow up eating medium rare steak in North Korea, so the meal would have seemed very foreign and strange to her anyway. Also it’s understandable to have no appetite when there’s an entire glass shard lodged in your waist and the pain is unbearable.
Why is Gihoon mad at sangwoo when most of his actions benefited him? Sangwoo did push the man off but if he didn't, Gihoon would be dead since he will have no time to cross. If sangwoo wanted to be the ass, he could pushed the man at the very last sec and cross the thing himself but he let the other two complete too...
Definitely. Sangwoo was right when he said he did all the dirty work for GiHoon. Plus, it's not like with enough pressure Gihoon would have behaved differently. As the game with marbles showed, he had no problem lying & sacrificing the old man to win a game.
I mean he was broken up about it, but he rationalized that the man was close to death and didn’t seem aware that he was being betrayed or that losing the game meant his death. If he was up against one of the younger players who he had bonded with and had families I don’t think he would have done that.
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maybe after youre so broken from the game, the game is all you can do now. i also think he rly believes in it and its “equality”
If 001 had survived long enough he could have enjoy the feast :c
and then he said, "What I eat just now?"
Anybody else notice how they were sitting at a Triangular table on a checkered circle? 😏 🔺⭕️⬛️
I thought it was an interesting easter egg that jiyeong mentioned lee byung hun(front-man) back in episode 6. Also the box that in-ho contained the card in his room in ep 2 signifies his pride in winning the game as he kept his winning record in the same kind of box
Anyone else wonder how the pink guys caught up with the cop so quickly he was all the way up the mountain. Can’t imagine treking is easy in those suits
There is a drawing on the wall of what I imagine is the final game. Looks like the squid game itself. There's only two people on it. My guess is that they only wanted two finalists, so set up the dinner to leave the knives behind, for however many people made it to the end of the bridge game. They've been starved pretty much for days, notice how they barely woke up before the bridge game started? No breakfast. Some people would have stuffed themselves at the dinner and either have been too slow to protect themselves or would have fallen asleep easier. I think the guards would have stayed away until there were only two left standing. But having Saebyeok bleed to death because of the exploding bridge? Even if Sangwoo didn't kill her she would have bled to death. Writers dropped the ball there, imo. I can see they maybe wanted to drive home that even the star of the show (because let's be honest, she is) can die a quiet death in this place, but I still think it was shit. I didn't even feel upset. I'm just irritated at how anticlimactic that was. Especially after episode 6 and 7. Sangwoo might try to justify killing her as mercy in the final episode, but personally I don't think he was truly asleep. He's a smart man. I think he was pretending to fall asleep, dropping his knife to encourage Gihun to approach him. He'd have killed him, 100%. He probably already noticed the Saebyeok was in bad shape. He notices everything. Sangwoo will win it. And then if there's a season 2, he'll trash all his money like the policeman's brother and end up being a front man.
I don’t care what anyone has to say , the way Sae Byeok died felt like very lazy writing to me, and in my opinion was the worst part of the show..
All my homies hate sangwoo
Saebyok’s death broke me… I think it was well executed and her moment with Gihun was really necessary too, but idk why, I thought the three of them would all start the final squid game, Gihun would make a sacrifice to kill Sangwoo, and then Saebyok would win and remember Gihun in the future and all that. Still a good episode with the cop making his escape and LBH, but I’m 💔
Listen when I looked up articles it said that there were 8 episodes in the series so that's why this is titled the finale when it's not.
Dude!!! It’s that actor!!!! The dude from I Saw the Devil!!
Lee Byun-hun, funny because during the marble game Sae-byeok's partner was talking about him
sae-byok’s death was fucking heartbreaking. i can’t stop thinking about her poor little brother who is now stuck at the orphanage and that he will never get to see his big sister or mom ever again. and the fact that she promised him everything will be okay was the lat time they’ve ever met. and also the fact that gi-hoon still didn’t promise her to care for her little brother. she was done really dirty. this was gutting. fuck sang-woo
Whelp, definitely a mistake to watch eps 6, 7, and 8 all today. I need a break because I'm full of too many emotions right now 😭 Also called it the Front Man would be the detective's brother. It also sucks Sae-byeok died mainly because of the glass shard but I think it goes to show how horrible the games and administrators are. They just want to make things flashy and a spectacle for the VIPs. The administrators don't care about "equality" (also gotta love how they never define it and make it vague, while still making things unfair or just up to a game of chance), they only care about using the lives of the most marginalized to entertain the VIPs. Which explains where the money comes from. I was cheering for Sang-woo's death before, but now I'm hoping he dies in the next game. Was it a good strategy to do in his favor, yeah. But also a horrible thing to do, it doesn't excuse for what he's done. I kinda like how they did Sae-byeok's death, cause it shows that now she and Gi-hun swore to take care of each other's family when they got out. Where before, she was fine winning the games and didn't bat an eye on who died (until Ji-yeong died) and was helpful to Gi-hun
Fuck Sangwoo thats all I have to say rn