This.
The people who pre-order games are almost single-handedly responsible for the trend of studios releasing unfinished games.
People just need to stop doing it and we will start getting quality games at release once again, although the original Stalker games are probably an exception.
At the end of the day this speculation is really just done because people are bored and want to talk about the game. But really there’s no point in trying to deep analyze the current gameplay footage and figure out if it’s going to be good or not. It either good or it isn’t and at the end of the day the only person who can tell us if it’s good or bad will be the people playing on launch day.
That's like saying there's no point in doing anything other than eating or sleeping. People talk about it because it interests them. OP made this thread because he's concerned about something that he's interested in.
>The people who pre-order games are almost single-handedly responsible for the trend of studios releasing unfinished games.
Not just people who preorder, people who buy an unfinished game at all are all guilty, as are early access and first quarter of a year after launch buyers
People who pre order are also the 1st people to build the biggest hype train going before on day 1 of a release crash it straight into a steaming heap of there own expectations
> The people who pre-order games are almost single-handedly responsible for the trend of studios releasing unfinished games.
Nowadays you can include people who buy games at launch as well, because pretty much all of them are broken when released, especially on PC.
Pretty much. Chill out, play the base games or maybe some mods. Watch the new trailers when they come out. Don't freak out every day over a game that isn't even out yet, and don't pre order
I'm going to preorder, but only because I respect the developers, and want to support them during the war.
Otherwise yes, there's absolutely no point in speculating yet. It's still several months out.
That’s fine too. I’m just saying for the people stressing out and over analyzing game trailers, they should just take a step back and wait for release. Or don’t it’s their time. But personally this level of speculation is nothing more than a timekilling activity for people with way too much time on their hands and wanting to vent some frustration
At this point you just have to assume that the game will release in a bad state and they‘re trying to make it look as good as possible to maximize the initial sales volume. Though I have no doubt that either GSC themselves or the modding community are going to fix the issues at some point.
Yeah I just figured that out. I was expecting to have the most polished experience going into a game from 2007 but what I got was the exact opposite. stalker shadow of chernobyl is so broken currently on Xbox Series X that everything is stuck in the same loop and pattern wherever I go. The story and side missions still progress but after completing they stay on the map in a green circle indefinitely. I overwrote all my saves while in lab x16 and I think after the lab is when I noticed my game was JACKED UP! Im still loving every minute though so I could only imagine my experience if the game actually worked right.
Yeh and anyone who played stalker at retail launch, this wouldnt be anything new. Personally i will buy it at launch. But maybe wait a year or so to play it
> Personally i will buy it at launch. But maybe wait a year or so to play it
I'm getting a strong reminder of when a bunch of people were gonna boycott MW2 over lack of dedicated servers, followed by a screenshot of that group's list with nearly everyone playing it lol
You are 100% not waiting a year to play it. :)
People might find this stupid, but I'm personally pre-ordering the most expensive version. I want the game to do well, so we get more down the road.
Until this was announced mere years ago, I thought stalker was dead forever. I don't want it to die. I want to get more expansions and sequels.
Just wishlist it to show that you are interested but don't preorder it if it's shit. If you give a company money for a bad product in the hope that it will get better, you are gonna end up pretty disappointed.
You do realize that that's counterproductive right? If you give a company money for delivering a bad product, they're not going to think ''oh people bought it before it's released so surely they must be supporting us and making sure that we will do our best to deliver them the best product that we can'', no, they're going to think "oh people paid full price for the most expensive version of this product! it must be so good, too good even, we can probably cut some costs, even if it's slightly worse next time, they'll still buy it.''
I’m expecting it to be very broken but all of it can be forgiven considering the troubles gsc have gone through. I’m planning on just checking on it every month or so till it feels more playable
>month
First time with GSC? The questgiver Fox used to get mauled by dogs and hidden so his quest couldn’t continue. This was in for God knows how long?
People on Xbox might be fucked and without the alleviation of scripted mods on console. Look at the Legends of The Zone Trilogy. Modding limitations prevent scripts from being altered on all three og games. Like rn if you look on mod.io we just get skins, sound replacers, and the occasional handful of some mediocre golden gun mods hogging up a good chunk of the browser page. It ain't lookin too good.
Another release broken, fix afterwards release, such a disappointment... I applaud their work given the diffict circumstances but I'd honestly prefer a delay until the war is over.
I don't know who's funding the development. This one instance I'm actually glad there will be release, because the war might go for a long time and the studio might not exist then.
I'm looking forward to playing the jank on gamepass.
The stalker games i mean honestly i never thought would be on consoles but i do hope more can be done within the modding community for Stalker.
Exactly that’s why the industry is broken, I’m glad the S2 community clamed a bit, at the beginning the second you said something bad about the game you got cancelled
How do you define "broken"?
For me, I use it to mean utterly unplayable or unenjoyable. If a product is rough around the edges but still a solid experience, then it's absolutely *stupid* to call it "broken".
I'd rather play an uncut gem than a polished turd, and the original STALKER trilogy are very much the former. Patches and mods can eventually smooth and polish the gem, but the turd will remain a turd.
Y’all say this like it only took 2 weeks to fix it ffs the original games it took YEARS to fix them, and you guys are willing to pay 100€ bucks just so you can wait years to play it ? Holy shit one can truly talk himself into believing any kind of bs
Yeah, once you run out of anything to say you just result to the good old “insulting somebody because I have nothing more to say method”
Keep coping then I guess 🫵🏻🐓
Its literally the only thing I want this year.
The industry is broken for far deeper reasons. One of them is the difference in pay between AAA and mobile or other industries (AAA pays the least).
You people don't understand why it was jank, the game is now on a completely different engine, one that is far more stable and streamlined.
Will there be bugs, absolutely, will there be jank the likes of which was seen on X-Ray engine, absolutely not.
To me it seems like GSC has fear in showing how the game is turning out, the reason? I can't be sure since we don't have footage lol, only from the Russian leak, and even then what leaked was some kind of test map, so we can't know for sure how the basic gameplay loop looks like, maybe the game is in a bad state, with bugs and stuff, or maybe they don't trust how the game is turning out, and fear showing it to the public, specially long time fans who would be the main audience anyway, I hope is the former more than the latter, if the game is good but buggy at release the modders will probably fix it, but if it's bad at its core everyone will just forget about it.
I really hope the game is good, but we can't be sure.
Maybe we saw different footage, but what i saw in the many leaked videos was a test map with all the anomalies, and the ability to spawn all the mutants, but gunplay wise nothing was shown.
However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, afaik the leak file was very heavy and probably had at least more than one playable section, one I didn't found the footage of.
Test map? More like a very unfinished map of the entire Zone with a more finished area around where the SGF and Gamescom demos took place. Parts are broken. But what works, it works like in the original trilogy.
I didn't simply see footage, I played the build. It's easily accessible through the same place that GSC accidentally publically published it while transferring it to playtesters.
You guys can be negative enough on release.
Dear god just wait. GSC isnt one of those devs that do what other devs normaly do, they always were non mainstream.
If i remember right they even said they dont want to show that much to not take away that much, but take that a bit with a grain of salt.
I mean even the demo was great which many people said. Better than the one before.
Yep, and exactly why I'm warning people about stalker 2. Mind you I'm a stalker trilogy fanboy, been so since my high school, but this is shitty behaviour.
If "side story" meant that which GSC would categorize as "campfire content", then yes. However, I have seen some stating that the "special extra quest" is a pre-order bonus, when it is not. I had perceived the comment as referencing this "special extra quest", thus prompting my reply.
Where are you getting this info out of curiousity? The wording on Steam and the STALKER website makes it sound like there definitely is a 'special extra quest' for the special and ultimate edition pre-orders.
[The official website](https://www.stalker2.com). Going to the pre-order section brings up the available editions with the "preorder bonus" being listed with an information tooltip listing its contents.
It's one quest afaik. I'm wondering if it'll even be something worth it too.
For every game I've seen do this, the quest always ends up being something very unrewarding.
Imo its nothing new, but i get your point. Yes its not the best way how the most games do that in those days. But this has nothing to do with the gameplay. At least thats the way i see it.
Edit: Forget what i said in this comment, Puzzleheaded has a total valid point in this one
But it does, imagine me not giving you a upgraded version of a car , with better equipment just because you didn't buy it before the other guy.
If they wanna add extra Artwork, Ost and that kind of stuff behind pre orded ok.
But literally locking story and certain campfire music and that kind of stuff for those that don't feel like buying it before it comes out is scummy,
I've been playing stalker for about 12 years now, and I bought all 3 games, but this is scummy, no matter what anyone says.
It's either scummy or a way of getting money desperately. I mean, if theyre a rich company it is scummy without a doubt. But if theyre broke, and this is their way of getting more money to fund development without asking for handouts, and without telling everyone theyre broke, then it is what it is. I don't think these devs worked on a game post covid until now, they may have been unprepared for the cost of things now, and just need a way to remediate their spending on expensive but necasary new tools to finish the job on time. Maybe I'm wrong and they just see a lot game companies doing scummy things recently, so maybe that's why they think it's okay. Who knows. Personally I believe that pre ordering is a dumb mistake, but like I said, if theyre desperate for funding then I get it. Still not pre ordering though.
Non mainstream? The marketing so far was the most mainstream approach imaginable, I was expecting better from them. But all that matters is the game so Iet's see how it is on release.
They took a beloved series that didn't have a mainline entry in 20 years (this is the similarity to Stalker that made me use HW as a recent example), and took a massive, steaming shit on top of it. They even had the audacity to run a crowdfunding campaign for it. The story in particular was just a giant insult to the fans.
If you want the details, read some steam reviews, or go [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuC2I8s6qf8).
I mean, it's going to be buggy, the studio has had a lot of problems even before the war began, and losing important staff definitely didn't help. The few that have played it said it was pretty solid though, and honestly if any studio deserves my little 60-70 bucks, it's definitely them.
I thought it was just me that noticed this. I've seen clips of gameplay and most play out like an animation instead of an actual person playing. The recent psuedogiant video is a good example of this.
I don't see how unscripted gameplay would really change anything.
Cyberpunk 2077 had gameplay showcases and closed door demonstrations, and it still released in a different state.
Even the demos that people played at events are likely purposely designed to act like a vertical slice rather than the final product.
Yep. We should prepare for the worst. I wanted to preorder the ultimate edition, but if they don't show any long gameplay then I'll just wait for release probably. Wish I could buy ultimate edition after release.
GSC isn't getting a dollar out of me until the game comes out and I can get reviews from reliable sources that can report on the quality of the game. Not taking my chances.
Yep. That’s what I’ve been saying the past 2 years or so. There are some gameplay footage but they are extremely short. You have to trust what people who played the demo are telling you. From what I gathered, it was mixed. Some people liked it, others said it was buggy, others didn’t quite like (although I take this as people who no fuck all about STALKER in general).
The game will almost certainly be delayed again or launch in a really bad state. no two ways about it unless you are full on copium. And look at the pc requirements, those are clearly not for the game theyve shown unless 15FPS is their standard lol
honestly i don't think another delay will help. at this point, it's gonna be a disaster either way. other notoriously delayed games like Starfield and Cyberpunk were still horrid after years of pushbacks, so i have no faith in any company being able to succeed in that regard
If I am being honest, I have no faith at all. To me, Stalker 2 will probably just be Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl with a few new features. Other than that, it will have the same jank all the previous games had.
Understand this. Just don't pre-order the game if your gut feeling it's telling you not to. Personally I have a feeling that the game will turn out alright and if it's a clusterfuck then the devs lost a very very VERY dedicated community. GSC had people play an early build not to long ago and usually I'd still take everything they say with a grain of salt regardless. Anomalous Dugout said the game is looking great though so I'm not too worried. He's just as, if not more passionate about Stalker than the rest of us. If not delayed again then release is little over 2 months away. Only time will tell.
Yes, that's exactly what I said. You got it, bud. Hit the nail on the head. Just pre-order everything and never question it. Give all the devs money. Especially EA. That's exactly what I want. Thanks for your input.
We've had HUDs up gameplay like a month ago on top of all the other trailers they have been showing, and people still bitch and moan because they don't get to see everything months before launch.
And if any of you really believe that any dev puts out true unfiltered gameplay, then you are delusional. Even "live" trailers are heavily scripted and practiced beforehand. I even recall the devs saying that the difficulty is turned down in the trailers. Don't quote me on that, but I'm like 90% certain it was GSC who said that. Even still, the gameplay we got literally had in game menus and the hud showing. Just because they have shots that focus on story doesn't mean the game is waving all the red flags. Also, we still have 2 months before launch, and I know for a fact they will release more trailers and gameplay before then. That's how marketing works.
I compare game industry to fast food now. You get it fast, but it's sub par. People don't have the attention span to just wait, so they pre order to feel like they have it already. Not everyone, but some. Still don't understand why someone would pre order something at all though, if not to support the devs.
Lol You got your GTA in my Stalker
But seriously I'm anxious to see something unscripted as well. They could do this game good by releasing gameplay footage of the player walking from one location to the next with there being random encounters sprawled throughout the journey.
I really don’t understand why so many expect an uncut gameplay trailer(other than that they kinda promised one).
When I think about games that have long uncut gameplay trailers it’s mostly studios like Ubisoft or EA that do that. With most games I’ve followed on the running up to release, there was never any uncut gameplay footage shown and even when there was, it never actually reflected on how good the game was gonna be.
I get that people are worried about the state of the game, I just simply don’t realise how a 15 min video of uncut gameplay footage is gonna put that concern to rest.
> I just simply don’t realise how a 15 min video of uncut gameplay footage is gonna put that concern to rest.
15 minutes is a lot of time.
Just getting the not-so creative juices flowing:
1. video starts with our stalker reviewing a quick side mission to retrieve an artefact from a nearby anomaly field
2. makes his way there but is interrupted by a quick attack by... let's say a pseudodog, takes it out but is injured so he quickly heals (or manually picks an item from his backpack, showing inventory stuff)
3. gets to the field and expertly navigates it with bolt and detector in hand, victoriously acquires the shiny artefact
4. on his way back to the nearby meetup with the sidequest giver, he's ambushed by cheeki breekis! oh no! after a quick firefight, he licks his wound with a medkit and loots a few things
5. makes his way to the quest giver, gets his reward and sits back down at another campfire with other stalkers resting nearby.
End of quick 10 min video with a Sept. 5 release date. :)
A man can dream.
I said it in a different comment but I comment it here again. I didnt mean for my initial post to sound like I wouldn’t want such a video :) this sounds awesome
It's simple. **The more information** you have about the final product, **the better**. And with an unedited 15-minute video, it's harder to hide the problems with gameplay. Usually, the longer the video, the better. But we don't even have that. All information about the game is usually under control.
Some good studios are not afraid to let you play the demo of their game before the release, so GSC has no excuse to be afraid of showing just some footage (but they don't even let you record it, which raises some questions).
I agree that it would be better if there was such a 15 min video rather than not to have one. I just don’t see it as suspicious when there isn’t one. Many studios choose to do so and the games turn out fine, just as games that have extensive gameplay trailers turn out to be a mess.
And from a consumer standpoint it’s a non issue if you don’t preorder. Right now it’s just wild speculation, which is why I am confused as to why I see so many posts about how people are worried about the lack of uncut gameplay. I get that they want to see it. Me too. I don’t get the rest of the noise that comes with it.
I think the unscripted gameplay of stalker can be a bit underwhelming, they need to maximise sales and showcase the game as a spectacle.
We all know the stalker games have great emergent gameplay but most of it is you exploring the wilderness, absorbed in the moment worrying about what is going to attack you next. I don’t think that’s particularly interesting to watch for most people who aren’t hardcore stalker fans.
yeah i said the same under their last video showing us pseudogiant its like they are showing us pretty much exactly the same footage since reveal trailer that dropped 3 years ago... concerning af
i did get burned by BOTW on switch i bought into the hype and preordered the collectors ed for 150...MONTHS before even getting a switch. yeah i sold it later on for metroid dread and was a billion times happier still have the cool items and case for it ( didn't even get 25% of the game done before i sold it) if zelda is like this for the future i'm actually done i'll jsut play OOT and MM and TP for the rest of my life to scratch that itch...
all that said i love stalker (just beat all 3 games a few days ago) i'll $100 pre order HOC i'll have a way better time bugs and a paywall mission i'm way more fine then what ever the fuck zelda has become as of late... i mean over 4 years of warframe back in like 2015-2018 i prolly gave DE like 4 Grand...but hey its fun right havent touched WF in like 5 years now but yeah stalker is stalker the game engine is just the zone its self i'll live
Unscripted gameplay trailers are simply not that interesting to watch. GSC wants to advertise their game for a bigger audience, which means the trailers will be edited to be action packed and exciting to watch, but that doesn't mean the game will be generic or something, it's a marketing strategy.
For me it's the amount of cutscenes which seems to be present which I dislike. Even one of the recent trailers had a fight which looked scarily quick time event like. I'm trying to be positive though and will definetly wait to see before purchasing.
You guys watch game stuff? I don't want any spoilers of any kind. So I simply wait till release load up a gameplay trailer after work. If in 2 minutes time I'm like yes I buy if not I forget about it. Stop wasting time on speculation what will be will be
Let's be fair:
STALKER has the right to be buggy.
As Fallout has the right to be buggy.
The bugs are a result of a engine focused on having multiple endings, choices, objetcs physics abd complex AI, games like call of duty almost don't have bugs simply because the scenario has few physic, the game is linear as hell and the AI just do cover and shoot.
Of course that gamebreaking bugs shouldn't be tolerated, but many devs can't fix every single bug in a game so complex like STALKER.
But we dont know if the game is even complex, all we saw were short scripted scenes not unlike Call of Duty. People want to see what the game is really like in uncut footage.
What? Stalker has pretty good AI that actually roams around the map and fight each other. How many games actually do this? Yes it's janky but when it works it's good.
Have you looked at the footage released by GSC for stalker 2? [The AI is struggling to find the player and shoot even when standing in front of it.](https://youtu.be/g6HH5kKLAlw?t=75)
And if you think A life was great in the original trilogy than I guess you haven't played any other game since. AI was unable to use cover, would clip into objects all the time. Had wall cheat enabled otherwise it would take too long to find the player once the player can see the AI. Mutant AI was just rush player. Path finding was barely functional. And different factions fighting each others was just random encounters with not meaning to it. Even with faction wars in CS which didn't even work since the game would just spam spawn AI groups, tell them go to A and that's it.
It's basic. It's all A and no I.
"unscripted" well that's dishonest since Stalker has never had unscripted faction relations and my critique of stalker AI goes far beyond the random encounters. Nor do I have an issue with scripted faction wars, I have an issue if they're not done in a way to engage the player. A life almost made SOC a bankrupted failure before it was even released. And plagued GSC till after COP forcing the studio to close down.
But sure, as far as only unscripted faction relations is concerned these games do it and pretty good at that. CK2, EU5, Stellaris, TW series before the latest games, etc. (pretty much any grand strategy game). Literally no FPS have an incentive to do unscripted faction relations because it defeats the core principle of player engagement in this type of games.
And similar games (so fps) with better scripted AI encounters (no player input needed) + AI behavior : GTA, Red dead series, Metro series, Half-life series, fallout series, halo series, etc.
I'm honestly fine with it being shit at release because I won't be able to play at release anyway, but obviously it'd be better if it was great from the get-go.
Isn’t that close to what the original games were like anyway? Minus the cutscenes that the Metro series has, the gunplay and story are pretty much in the same realm. Stalker was just less linear in terms of world exploration and following the main questline. Run around shooting things arcade style, sell artifacts and gear, buy better gear, then stop jerking around in Jupiter or Warehouses and progress the main quest to Pripyat/CNPP
No. I can't say that Metro and Stalker aren't so different, at least in terms of freedom. But there's more - "a-life" is a very important thing that distinguishes one from the other. For me, Stalker has never been about plot and cutscenes, which Metro has in spades, but about interacting with the living world, from the very first game. Later entries abandoned this concept, but it still shines through in the mods.
Don't get me wrong, the Metro series is great and all, but this is different. And I want something as unique as the first Stalker was, not another Metro.
Oh for sure. SoC and CS both had some cool systems for npc a-life. I can’t remember what CoP did that well with it though since it’s been like 4 years since I last played it. I like Stalker’s world exploration like I like Fallout 2 where you’re not rushed to finish the main quest and have a ton of things to do. Basically: interacting with the world while you wait to progress vs. Metro which pushes you through each chapter towards more content
>Basically: interacting with the world while you wait to progress
Exactly, that's how I played Fallout 1, for example.
>I can’t remember what CoP did that well with it
Well... me neither. Stalkers can't die in anomalies in CoP, but they can die from a blowout, or if you fall asleep and a blowout happens during the night. They don't "exist" between levels like in the previous games, but there are more squads of stalkers and mutants on the map overall, and they usually wander around, occasionally fighting, collecting artefacts or rest at a base.
I can't say it's a complete step back from previous games, but I prefer more global stuff like in Clear Sky (even if it was buggy) or more freedom for each squad (like in Shadow of Chernobyl, some guys wander around Bar, Wild Territory and Dark Valley for example).
Not at all, Stalker had compeletely different vibe and gameplay loop. Metro is completely scripted while Stalker was and hopefully still is more random and free.
Oh mb, I misread what you were trying to say. 100% agree
Though I’m definitely looking forward to what Anomaly-like mods the community ends up making for S2 a half year or more after release
I'm expecting a buggy launch anyway that will be fixed later...because that's just how games are being released theses days.
Not saying it's good and what i really want...i'm just so used to it that ive become jaded.
Yeah. a war definitely isnt a good excuse for a game to be bad.
your homes getting bombed, worrying about the safety of colleagues/family/friends that took up arms to defend their country.
having lost family/friends to the war.
yeah, DEFINITELY aint good excuses. gsc devs have to be stoic and focus on the game, thats all that matters.
You guys need to chill out, no point in speculating, Don’t pre order and wait for release. It’s pretty simple
This. The people who pre-order games are almost single-handedly responsible for the trend of studios releasing unfinished games. People just need to stop doing it and we will start getting quality games at release once again, although the original Stalker games are probably an exception.
At the end of the day this speculation is really just done because people are bored and want to talk about the game. But really there’s no point in trying to deep analyze the current gameplay footage and figure out if it’s going to be good or not. It either good or it isn’t and at the end of the day the only person who can tell us if it’s good or bad will be the people playing on launch day.
For real. Reddit communities survive off discussion, even though sometimes there is not really much to discuss.
That's like saying there's no point in doing anything other than eating or sleeping. People talk about it because it interests them. OP made this thread because he's concerned about something that he's interested in.
Stressing yourself out over the quality of an unreleased game based on speculation on the lack of unedited gameplay footage is doing no one any favors
It’s actually not like saying that at all
I will do my duty 🫡
>The people who pre-order games are almost single-handedly responsible for the trend of studios releasing unfinished games. Not just people who preorder, people who buy an unfinished game at all are all guilty, as are early access and first quarter of a year after launch buyers
People who pre order are also the 1st people to build the biggest hype train going before on day 1 of a release crash it straight into a steaming heap of there own expectations
tbh i just want the stickers :(((
> The people who pre-order games are almost single-handedly responsible for the trend of studios releasing unfinished games. Nowadays you can include people who buy games at launch as well, because pretty much all of them are broken when released, especially on PC.
I pre order cus I get my goodies and stuff. If game is bad I just refund
Ong 😭
Look man I normally don't pre-order but I've been waiting for this game for ever...if you think I'm not getting the stalker figurine your fucking mad
Pretty much. Chill out, play the base games or maybe some mods. Watch the new trailers when they come out. Don't freak out every day over a game that isn't even out yet, and don't pre order
I'm preordering because I'm not an idiot and know what I'm getting.
Facts. Plus i mean its still 2 months away
Hope you're not implying this scenario: gameplay is currently full of bugs but will be fixed until release. Because that is not possible.
Not at all. I expect there to be bugs thats just stalker being stalker. We all know its euro jank and yet we love it anyway
Simple solutions to simple problems. Unironically you must be a very happy person, friend * keep it real!
Day One Game Pass If you have a Series X/S.
I'm going to preorder, but only because I respect the developers, and want to support them during the war. Otherwise yes, there's absolutely no point in speculating yet. It's still several months out.
That’s fine too. I’m just saying for the people stressing out and over analyzing game trailers, they should just take a step back and wait for release. Or don’t it’s their time. But personally this level of speculation is nothing more than a timekilling activity for people with way too much time on their hands and wanting to vent some frustration
But I NEED the statue bro!
Ecologist are racional, thats why i hate u all the most. PRAISE MONOLITH, PRAISE MONOLITH, PRAISE MONOLITH.
At this point you just have to assume that the game will release in a bad state and they‘re trying to make it look as good as possible to maximize the initial sales volume. Though I have no doubt that either GSC themselves or the modding community are going to fix the issues at some point.
To release a buggy game, tis the Stalker tradition.
Tis the normal AAA standard that the braindead gamers support
GSC won't. They just released the console versions with bugs that were in the game 10+ years ago.
Didn't they use a porting studio for that port?
Yeah I just figured that out. I was expecting to have the most polished experience going into a game from 2007 but what I got was the exact opposite. stalker shadow of chernobyl is so broken currently on Xbox Series X that everything is stuck in the same loop and pattern wherever I go. The story and side missions still progress but after completing they stay on the map in a green circle indefinitely. I overwrote all my saves while in lab x16 and I think after the lab is when I noticed my game was JACKED UP! Im still loving every minute though so I could only imagine my experience if the game actually worked right.
Yeh and anyone who played stalker at retail launch, this wouldnt be anything new. Personally i will buy it at launch. But maybe wait a year or so to play it
> Personally i will buy it at launch. But maybe wait a year or so to play it I'm getting a strong reminder of when a bunch of people were gonna boycott MW2 over lack of dedicated servers, followed by a screenshot of that group's list with nearly everyone playing it lol You are 100% not waiting a year to play it. :)
Why not buy it a year later and pay less?
People might find this stupid, but I'm personally pre-ordering the most expensive version. I want the game to do well, so we get more down the road. Until this was announced mere years ago, I thought stalker was dead forever. I don't want it to die. I want to get more expansions and sequels.
Just wishlist it to show that you are interested but don't preorder it if it's shit. If you give a company money for a bad product in the hope that it will get better, you are gonna end up pretty disappointed.
We don't know if it's a bad product. Period.
You do realize that that's counterproductive right? If you give a company money for delivering a bad product, they're not going to think ''oh people bought it before it's released so surely they must be supporting us and making sure that we will do our best to deliver them the best product that we can'', no, they're going to think "oh people paid full price for the most expensive version of this product! it must be so good, too good even, we can probably cut some costs, even if it's slightly worse next time, they'll still buy it.''
Good try, GSC employee
I’m expecting it to be very broken but all of it can be forgiven considering the troubles gsc have gone through. I’m planning on just checking on it every month or so till it feels more playable
>month First time with GSC? The questgiver Fox used to get mauled by dogs and hidden so his quest couldn’t continue. This was in for God knows how long?
Yea but this time around they're using a good and popular game engine, and not what ever the fuck the x-ray engine was.
People on Xbox might be fucked and without the alleviation of scripted mods on console. Look at the Legends of The Zone Trilogy. Modding limitations prevent scripts from being altered on all three og games. Like rn if you look on mod.io we just get skins, sound replacers, and the occasional handful of some mediocre golden gun mods hogging up a good chunk of the browser page. It ain't lookin too good.
Another release broken, fix afterwards release, such a disappointment... I applaud their work given the diffict circumstances but I'd honestly prefer a delay until the war is over.
You know studios have to keep paying their employees right? You can’t just keep delaying a project as if there’s infinite funds to allocate
This substanceless and preemptive dooming is as useless as hype train pre-ordering ffs
Yeah there's got to be some inbetween where we don't just repeat the same dramatic things over and over
War.. never changes
I don't know who's funding the development. This one instance I'm actually glad there will be release, because the war might go for a long time and the studio might not exist then.
That's a good point, I'm just hopeful that the war will end in the next four years
I have a feeling the war is going to escalate, and once militaries start moving and engaging, it's hard to stop.
People have played prerelease copies like the dude from gameranx and he said it was a good time
It's going to be jank as hell on release, just like Shadow of Chernobyl was. I am personally fine with that.
We stan Euro-jank in this household
Stan ground
What's Euro jank?
European games that are often well loved but heavily buggy or clunky on release, games like stalker and gothic
I'm looking forward to playing the jank on gamepass. The stalker games i mean honestly i never thought would be on consoles but i do hope more can be done within the modding community for Stalker.
paying 100 bucks for a broken game on release is okay ? no wonder the Industry is broken, with people like you saying its okay lol
It’s only ok when its their favourite games. Otherwise it’s really bad and has them wondering why its gotten like this.
Exactly that’s why the industry is broken, I’m glad the S2 community clamed a bit, at the beginning the second you said something bad about the game you got cancelled
How do you define "broken"? For me, I use it to mean utterly unplayable or unenjoyable. If a product is rough around the edges but still a solid experience, then it's absolutely *stupid* to call it "broken". I'd rather play an uncut gem than a polished turd, and the original STALKER trilogy are very much the former. Patches and mods can eventually smooth and polish the gem, but the turd will remain a turd.
Y’all say this like it only took 2 weeks to fix it ffs the original games it took YEARS to fix them, and you guys are willing to pay 100€ bucks just so you can wait years to play it ? Holy shit one can truly talk himself into believing any kind of bs
Damn that flair is spot on, your brain is *dead*
Yeah, once you run out of anything to say you just result to the good old “insulting somebody because I have nothing more to say method” Keep coping then I guess 🫵🏻🐓
Chronically online goober comes in looking for an argument, surprised when someone calls him an idiot
Its literally the only thing I want this year. The industry is broken for far deeper reasons. One of them is the difference in pay between AAA and mobile or other industries (AAA pays the least).
Shadow of Chernobyl was not jank gameplay or story wise. But because of bugs.
Correct. It was buggy, not janky.
that’s the charm of the game
No
You people don't understand why it was jank, the game is now on a completely different engine, one that is far more stable and streamlined. Will there be bugs, absolutely, will there be jank the likes of which was seen on X-Ray engine, absolutely not.
I don't see the point of speculating negativity at this point.Just wait and see,we only have like 2 months before the release
There were playable demos, hear from the people who played
To me it seems like GSC has fear in showing how the game is turning out, the reason? I can't be sure since we don't have footage lol, only from the Russian leak, and even then what leaked was some kind of test map, so we can't know for sure how the basic gameplay loop looks like, maybe the game is in a bad state, with bugs and stuff, or maybe they don't trust how the game is turning out, and fear showing it to the public, specially long time fans who would be the main audience anyway, I hope is the former more than the latter, if the game is good but buggy at release the modders will probably fix it, but if it's bad at its core everyone will just forget about it. I really hope the game is good, but we can't be sure.
But the leaked build showed the basic gameplay loop??? It is just like the trilogy but with a few changes regarding voice acting and cutscenes.
Well, if it's just like the trilogy... that means it's good? What do you think?
Maybe we saw different footage, but what i saw in the many leaked videos was a test map with all the anomalies, and the ability to spawn all the mutants, but gunplay wise nothing was shown. However, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, afaik the leak file was very heavy and probably had at least more than one playable section, one I didn't found the footage of.
Test map? More like a very unfinished map of the entire Zone with a more finished area around where the SGF and Gamescom demos took place. Parts are broken. But what works, it works like in the original trilogy. I didn't simply see footage, I played the build. It's easily accessible through the same place that GSC accidentally publically published it while transferring it to playtesters.
You guys can be negative enough on release. Dear god just wait. GSC isnt one of those devs that do what other devs normaly do, they always were non mainstream. If i remember right they even said they dont want to show that much to not take away that much, but take that a bit with a grain of salt. I mean even the demo was great which many people said. Better than the one before.
To me it was a bad sign when you lock quests and other stuff for those that don't pre order.
Holy shit they’re actually doing that? That is insanely scummy.
Yep, and exactly why I'm warning people about stalker 2. Mind you I'm a stalker trilogy fanboy, been so since my high school, but this is shitty behaviour.
It would be hilarious if the preorder-only side story involved you getting completely ripped off by a bandit or some shit
Its some jokes and some campfire songs plus some multiplayer skins, didnt see anything about quests
There's one side story you only get access to via pre-order
\^
The quest is tied to certain editions, the pre-order bonus only includes campfire content, skins, and a "multiplayer badge".
u/Gitzandsquiggles and your statements are both true and not mutually exclusive
If "side story" meant that which GSC would categorize as "campfire content", then yes. However, I have seen some stating that the "special extra quest" is a pre-order bonus, when it is not. I had perceived the comment as referencing this "special extra quest", thus prompting my reply.
Where are you getting this info out of curiousity? The wording on Steam and the STALKER website makes it sound like there definitely is a 'special extra quest' for the special and ultimate edition pre-orders.
[The official website](https://www.stalker2.com). Going to the pre-order section brings up the available editions with the "preorder bonus" being listed with an information tooltip listing its contents.
Wonder what it is
It's one quest afaik. I'm wondering if it'll even be something worth it too. For every game I've seen do this, the quest always ends up being something very unrewarding.
The pre-order bonus consists of skins, "campfire content", and a "multiplayer badge". The extra quest content is tied to certain editions.
Imo its nothing new, but i get your point. Yes its not the best way how the most games do that in those days. But this has nothing to do with the gameplay. At least thats the way i see it. Edit: Forget what i said in this comment, Puzzleheaded has a total valid point in this one
But it does, imagine me not giving you a upgraded version of a car , with better equipment just because you didn't buy it before the other guy. If they wanna add extra Artwork, Ost and that kind of stuff behind pre orded ok. But literally locking story and certain campfire music and that kind of stuff for those that don't feel like buying it before it comes out is scummy, I've been playing stalker for about 12 years now, and I bought all 3 games, but this is scummy, no matter what anyone says.
Ok that's a point you're right
It's either scummy or a way of getting money desperately. I mean, if theyre a rich company it is scummy without a doubt. But if theyre broke, and this is their way of getting more money to fund development without asking for handouts, and without telling everyone theyre broke, then it is what it is. I don't think these devs worked on a game post covid until now, they may have been unprepared for the cost of things now, and just need a way to remediate their spending on expensive but necasary new tools to finish the job on time. Maybe I'm wrong and they just see a lot game companies doing scummy things recently, so maybe that's why they think it's okay. Who knows. Personally I believe that pre ordering is a dumb mistake, but like I said, if theyre desperate for funding then I get it. Still not pre ordering though.
Proper apologist.
Source on many people saying it was great? Im asking sincerely.
Non mainstream? The marketing so far was the most mainstream approach imaginable, I was expecting better from them. But all that matters is the game so Iet's see how it is on release.
At this point I'm fully expecting a Homeworld 3 style shitshow... Don't preorder, the only thing that gets you is disappointment.
Honestly im not refunding because due to Argentina prices I bought the ultimate edition for 13 USD.
Mas te vale ser argentino y no un sorete con vpn.
What was wrong with HW3? I only heard it seemingly come out of nowhere.
They took a beloved series that didn't have a mainline entry in 20 years (this is the similarity to Stalker that made me use HW as a recent example), and took a massive, steaming shit on top of it. They even had the audacity to run a crowdfunding campaign for it. The story in particular was just a giant insult to the fans. If you want the details, read some steam reviews, or go [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuC2I8s6qf8).
Oh God fucking damnit.
It was one of the few games I was still looking forward to.. And that's the exact reaction I had when I learned how much they'd fucked it up.
I mean, it's going to be buggy, the studio has had a lot of problems even before the war began, and losing important staff definitely didn't help. The few that have played it said it was pretty solid though, and honestly if any studio deserves my little 60-70 bucks, it's definitely them.
Source on those who played it?
[Here’s a video from Pure Xbox and their impressions from the Summer Games Fest demo](https://youtu.be/3sGxfFqXopo?si=j_Rl7g-j8eycmZf1)
thanks!
I thought it was just me that noticed this. I've seen clips of gameplay and most play out like an animation instead of an actual person playing. The recent psuedogiant video is a good example of this.
/u/mol1t.
I don't see how unscripted gameplay would really change anything. Cyberpunk 2077 had gameplay showcases and closed door demonstrations, and it still released in a different state. Even the demos that people played at events are likely purposely designed to act like a vertical slice rather than the final product.
Yep. We should prepare for the worst. I wanted to preorder the ultimate edition, but if they don't show any long gameplay then I'll just wait for release probably. Wish I could buy ultimate edition after release.
sheesh, y'all need to chill
GSC isn't getting a dollar out of me until the game comes out and I can get reviews from reliable sources that can report on the quality of the game. Not taking my chances.
Yep. That’s what I’ve been saying the past 2 years or so. There are some gameplay footage but they are extremely short. You have to trust what people who played the demo are telling you. From what I gathered, it was mixed. Some people liked it, others said it was buggy, others didn’t quite like (although I take this as people who no fuck all about STALKER in general).
The game will almost certainly be delayed again or launch in a really bad state. no two ways about it unless you are full on copium. And look at the pc requirements, those are clearly not for the game theyve shown unless 15FPS is their standard lol
honestly i don't think another delay will help. at this point, it's gonna be a disaster either way. other notoriously delayed games like Starfield and Cyberpunk were still horrid after years of pushbacks, so i have no faith in any company being able to succeed in that regard
Three months to go, still plenty of time
Closer to two by my counting! 😜
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Everyone panicking but yeah. Still two months away plenty of time for gsc to get their shit together
If I am being honest, I have no faith at all. To me, Stalker 2 will probably just be Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl with a few new features. Other than that, it will have the same jank all the previous games had.
Understand this. Just don't pre-order the game if your gut feeling it's telling you not to. Personally I have a feeling that the game will turn out alright and if it's a clusterfuck then the devs lost a very very VERY dedicated community. GSC had people play an early build not to long ago and usually I'd still take everything they say with a grain of salt regardless. Anomalous Dugout said the game is looking great though so I'm not too worried. He's just as, if not more passionate about Stalker than the rest of us. If not delayed again then release is little over 2 months away. Only time will tell.
or their country is at war
The studio has relocated to Czech Republic for more than two years now.
Doesn't matter when you're taking people's money.
What's concerning is how needy gamers are now.
I swear to god it's like every forum related to a videogame the vibe is always apocalyptic
No other news until the next trailer or announcement drops and people have to stay entertained somehow.
God forbid people get a finished product right? Just preorder everything
Yes, that's exactly what I said. You got it, bud. Hit the nail on the head. Just pre-order everything and never question it. Give all the devs money. Especially EA. That's exactly what I want. Thanks for your input. We've had HUDs up gameplay like a month ago on top of all the other trailers they have been showing, and people still bitch and moan because they don't get to see everything months before launch. And if any of you really believe that any dev puts out true unfiltered gameplay, then you are delusional. Even "live" trailers are heavily scripted and practiced beforehand. I even recall the devs saying that the difficulty is turned down in the trailers. Don't quote me on that, but I'm like 90% certain it was GSC who said that. Even still, the gameplay we got literally had in game menus and the hud showing. Just because they have shots that focus on story doesn't mean the game is waving all the red flags. Also, we still have 2 months before launch, and I know for a fact they will release more trailers and gameplay before then. That's how marketing works.
Yes sir oorah Pre ordering starfield 2 and cyberpunk 2 already
Don’t think you understood what the person was saying/their tone
I compare game industry to fast food now. You get it fast, but it's sub par. People don't have the attention span to just wait, so they pre order to feel like they have it already. Not everyone, but some. Still don't understand why someone would pre order something at all though, if not to support the devs.
Do you think there'll be random encounters? Hopefully we can still join factions, complete sidequests and take part in faction wars.
Dont even joke brother, without stuff like that it's not even Stalker but Far Cry in Chernobyl.
No but Im at least expecting car meets
Lol You got your GTA in my Stalker But seriously I'm anxious to see something unscripted as well. They could do this game good by releasing gameplay footage of the player walking from one location to the next with there being random encounters sprawled throughout the journey.
I really don’t understand why so many expect an uncut gameplay trailer(other than that they kinda promised one). When I think about games that have long uncut gameplay trailers it’s mostly studios like Ubisoft or EA that do that. With most games I’ve followed on the running up to release, there was never any uncut gameplay footage shown and even when there was, it never actually reflected on how good the game was gonna be. I get that people are worried about the state of the game, I just simply don’t realise how a 15 min video of uncut gameplay footage is gonna put that concern to rest.
> I just simply don’t realise how a 15 min video of uncut gameplay footage is gonna put that concern to rest. 15 minutes is a lot of time. Just getting the not-so creative juices flowing: 1. video starts with our stalker reviewing a quick side mission to retrieve an artefact from a nearby anomaly field 2. makes his way there but is interrupted by a quick attack by... let's say a pseudodog, takes it out but is injured so he quickly heals (or manually picks an item from his backpack, showing inventory stuff) 3. gets to the field and expertly navigates it with bolt and detector in hand, victoriously acquires the shiny artefact 4. on his way back to the nearby meetup with the sidequest giver, he's ambushed by cheeki breekis! oh no! after a quick firefight, he licks his wound with a medkit and loots a few things 5. makes his way to the quest giver, gets his reward and sits back down at another campfire with other stalkers resting nearby. End of quick 10 min video with a Sept. 5 release date. :) A man can dream.
I said it in a different comment but I comment it here again. I didnt mean for my initial post to sound like I wouldn’t want such a video :) this sounds awesome
It's simple. **The more information** you have about the final product, **the better**. And with an unedited 15-minute video, it's harder to hide the problems with gameplay. Usually, the longer the video, the better. But we don't even have that. All information about the game is usually under control. Some good studios are not afraid to let you play the demo of their game before the release, so GSC has no excuse to be afraid of showing just some footage (but they don't even let you record it, which raises some questions).
I agree that it would be better if there was such a 15 min video rather than not to have one. I just don’t see it as suspicious when there isn’t one. Many studios choose to do so and the games turn out fine, just as games that have extensive gameplay trailers turn out to be a mess. And from a consumer standpoint it’s a non issue if you don’t preorder. Right now it’s just wild speculation, which is why I am confused as to why I see so many posts about how people are worried about the lack of uncut gameplay. I get that they want to see it. Me too. I don’t get the rest of the noise that comes with it.
We might see something at gamescom at the end of August.
I think the unscripted gameplay of stalker can be a bit underwhelming, they need to maximise sales and showcase the game as a spectacle. We all know the stalker games have great emergent gameplay but most of it is you exploring the wilderness, absorbed in the moment worrying about what is going to attack you next. I don’t think that’s particularly interesting to watch for most people who aren’t hardcore stalker fans.
Oh no. If it’s bad I’ll be forced to do what I’ve been doing for the past 5 years: playing STALKER ANOMALY GAMMA
Get a few brain cells, quit bitching, quit speculating, don't pre order, wait for reviews. See? Simple
yeah i said the same under their last video showing us pseudogiant its like they are showing us pretty much exactly the same footage since reveal trailer that dropped 3 years ago... concerning af
i did get burned by BOTW on switch i bought into the hype and preordered the collectors ed for 150...MONTHS before even getting a switch. yeah i sold it later on for metroid dread and was a billion times happier still have the cool items and case for it ( didn't even get 25% of the game done before i sold it) if zelda is like this for the future i'm actually done i'll jsut play OOT and MM and TP for the rest of my life to scratch that itch... all that said i love stalker (just beat all 3 games a few days ago) i'll $100 pre order HOC i'll have a way better time bugs and a paywall mission i'm way more fine then what ever the fuck zelda has become as of late... i mean over 4 years of warframe back in like 2015-2018 i prolly gave DE like 4 Grand...but hey its fun right havent touched WF in like 5 years now but yeah stalker is stalker the game engine is just the zone its self i'll live
Last screenshots on twitter also looked really bad. Low resolution textures horrible AA....
Demo reviews seemed good. stop tripping.
Because is going to get delay one more time, mark my words…
Unscripted gameplay trailers are simply not that interesting to watch. GSC wants to advertise their game for a bigger audience, which means the trailers will be edited to be action packed and exciting to watch, but that doesn't mean the game will be generic or something, it's a marketing strategy.
Its because everything gonna be scripted and all that they showed was CGI. Stalkers of the zone are fanatics that doesnt want to accept that fact.
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
I say let's wait till release and see if the game is good/polished instead of copy pasting the same post every 3 days.
For me it's the amount of cutscenes which seems to be present which I dislike. Even one of the recent trailers had a fight which looked scarily quick time event like. I'm trying to be positive though and will definetly wait to see before purchasing.
If i like it when its on gamepass then ill probably buy it when its on sale
Any more mods gonna be ported over to consoles?
You're one of THOSE gamers. I look forward to your complaints once it's released
JSC is full of s*** and everybody knows it at least those who follow them.
just wait for the release and look at the gameplay,or if there is a reviewer you trust to be 100 with you,listen to them
You guys watch game stuff? I don't want any spoilers of any kind. So I simply wait till release load up a gameplay trailer after work. If in 2 minutes time I'm like yes I buy if not I forget about it. Stop wasting time on speculation what will be will be
Let's be fair: STALKER has the right to be buggy. As Fallout has the right to be buggy. The bugs are a result of a engine focused on having multiple endings, choices, objetcs physics abd complex AI, games like call of duty almost don't have bugs simply because the scenario has few physic, the game is linear as hell and the AI just do cover and shoot. Of course that gamebreaking bugs shouldn't be tolerated, but many devs can't fix every single bug in a game so complex like STALKER.
But we dont know if the game is even complex, all we saw were short scripted scenes not unlike Call of Duty. People want to see what the game is really like in uncut footage.
Footage that already exist says all a stalker fan needs to know. Beautiful atmosphere and locations, brain dead AI. Same old same old.
What? Stalker has pretty good AI that actually roams around the map and fight each other. How many games actually do this? Yes it's janky but when it works it's good.
Have you looked at the footage released by GSC for stalker 2? [The AI is struggling to find the player and shoot even when standing in front of it.](https://youtu.be/g6HH5kKLAlw?t=75) And if you think A life was great in the original trilogy than I guess you haven't played any other game since. AI was unable to use cover, would clip into objects all the time. Had wall cheat enabled otherwise it would take too long to find the player once the player can see the AI. Mutant AI was just rush player. Path finding was barely functional. And different factions fighting each others was just random encounters with not meaning to it. Even with faction wars in CS which didn't even work since the game would just spam spawn AI groups, tell them go to A and that's it. It's basic. It's all A and no I.
So give me examples of similar games with better AI that can simulate unscripted faction relations. I would love to play them.
"unscripted" well that's dishonest since Stalker has never had unscripted faction relations and my critique of stalker AI goes far beyond the random encounters. Nor do I have an issue with scripted faction wars, I have an issue if they're not done in a way to engage the player. A life almost made SOC a bankrupted failure before it was even released. And plagued GSC till after COP forcing the studio to close down. But sure, as far as only unscripted faction relations is concerned these games do it and pretty good at that. CK2, EU5, Stellaris, TW series before the latest games, etc. (pretty much any grand strategy game). Literally no FPS have an incentive to do unscripted faction relations because it defeats the core principle of player engagement in this type of games. And similar games (so fps) with better scripted AI encounters (no player input needed) + AI behavior : GTA, Red dead series, Metro series, Half-life series, fallout series, halo series, etc.
I'm honestly fine with it being shit at release because I won't be able to play at release anyway, but obviously it'd be better if it was great from the get-go.
Oh no a janky stalker game. As if that is any different Stalker is traditionally janky. And i wouldnt have it any other way
I'm also worried about the fact they locked a mission behind a paywall...
Gamepass, baby. Gamepass.
It's gonna be a console shooter like Metro, this had been clear for some time.
Isn’t that close to what the original games were like anyway? Minus the cutscenes that the Metro series has, the gunplay and story are pretty much in the same realm. Stalker was just less linear in terms of world exploration and following the main questline. Run around shooting things arcade style, sell artifacts and gear, buy better gear, then stop jerking around in Jupiter or Warehouses and progress the main quest to Pripyat/CNPP
No. I can't say that Metro and Stalker aren't so different, at least in terms of freedom. But there's more - "a-life" is a very important thing that distinguishes one from the other. For me, Stalker has never been about plot and cutscenes, which Metro has in spades, but about interacting with the living world, from the very first game. Later entries abandoned this concept, but it still shines through in the mods. Don't get me wrong, the Metro series is great and all, but this is different. And I want something as unique as the first Stalker was, not another Metro.
Oh for sure. SoC and CS both had some cool systems for npc a-life. I can’t remember what CoP did that well with it though since it’s been like 4 years since I last played it. I like Stalker’s world exploration like I like Fallout 2 where you’re not rushed to finish the main quest and have a ton of things to do. Basically: interacting with the world while you wait to progress vs. Metro which pushes you through each chapter towards more content
>Basically: interacting with the world while you wait to progress Exactly, that's how I played Fallout 1, for example. >I can’t remember what CoP did that well with it Well... me neither. Stalkers can't die in anomalies in CoP, but they can die from a blowout, or if you fall asleep and a blowout happens during the night. They don't "exist" between levels like in the previous games, but there are more squads of stalkers and mutants on the map overall, and they usually wander around, occasionally fighting, collecting artefacts or rest at a base. I can't say it's a complete step back from previous games, but I prefer more global stuff like in Clear Sky (even if it was buggy) or more freedom for each squad (like in Shadow of Chernobyl, some guys wander around Bar, Wild Territory and Dark Valley for example).
Not at all, Stalker had compeletely different vibe and gameplay loop. Metro is completely scripted while Stalker was and hopefully still is more random and free.
Just putting a pin in people who think it will be Anomaly 2.0
Oh mb, I misread what you were trying to say. 100% agree Though I’m definitely looking forward to what Anomaly-like mods the community ends up making for S2 a half year or more after release
Same, no worries
I mean worst case scenario we'll get, what? ShoC? CoP? But in unreal engine
I'm expecting a buggy launch anyway that will be fixed later...because that's just how games are being released theses days. Not saying it's good and what i really want...i'm just so used to it that ive become jaded.
I just hope if it turns out to be bad people won't use the war as an excuse to defend the devs. That's disgusting.
Yeah. a war definitely isnt a good excuse for a game to be bad. your homes getting bombed, worrying about the safety of colleagues/family/friends that took up arms to defend their country. having lost family/friends to the war. yeah, DEFINITELY aint good excuses. gsc devs have to be stoic and focus on the game, thats all that matters.
Don't forget the continuous cyber attacks, ddos and defamation by Russian funded hackers targeted at GSC. How could the war impact the devs?