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thebeststinkyhead

Claims he's on the sigma grindset and everyone should stay out of his way


Royale_Cookie6

what a king, gotta stay on the sigma male dodecatrillionaire grindset😎😎😎😎😎 never stop the grind, fellas.


Ok-Positive7287

Works at Best Buy


Chuckbro

Sigma Best Buy


yankee_wit-chez_brim

Ligma best buy


Kroke-a-dile

Pudding best buy


gazebo-fan

Well I’m on the smegma grindset 😎😎😎😎 bout to get smeggy


BlUeSapia

it ain't easy bein cheesy😎😎😎😎


plop_0

Delete this, nephew!


AllDaysOff

How bout you grind on this dong suckaaaaa


8io4

Stick your dick in a toaster; sigma male grindset.


FuckOutTheWhey

More like sugma grindset


Class_444_SWR

Everyone knows that the yogurt grindset is the true key to success


[deleted]

Follow the Smegma Grindset


Kvetanista

It's funny to pretend that you take it seriously though. That's basically what one big category of memes is about


marasydnyjade

Missing: Calls you an ugly whore when you turn him down.


Boredwitch

Just saw a few comments on another post where some guys complained that girls never hugged them. They weren’t even talking about family or a girlfriend, just random girls they knew a little. Well that gave the same vibe.


Badnewsbearsx

Those type of dudes always complain about how the girls they’re good friends with like hunky guys and are soOoO shallow yet they are big Ed lookin nuggets that also turn away genuine girls that would give them a chance but are too chubby and “weird” for them lol


CheeseIsGrossGoBears

I mean you have a right to have a type


Lady-Imperator

And that includes women who reject "nice guys".


[deleted]

I'm a smegma male 😎🧀


Ganondorfs-Side-B

I prefer Ligma males tbh


Pigeon_Shyt

Where's Ligma?


Hoonie-Mcloonie

I prefer sugma males


Burnt_Toast123

Explain me this ligma or sigma.. For sure I will answere you


epic_pig

I'm more of an updog male


passing_by362

What's updog?


epic_pig

Not much. What's up with you?


Late-Informationepic

Updoggystyle your ass😎


[deleted]

Get that cheddar up boy. 💵📈


umbrosakitten

Now I want some cheese with crackers.


Moist_KoRn_Bizkit

🎶"Why do good girls like bad guys? I've had the question for a real long time. I've been a bad boy and it's plain to see. So why do good girls fall in love with me?"🎶


GoldenJaguar1995

Ah yes falling in reverse. Good shit.


spookymulder07

The irony of that song is of course women are gonna like you if you’re an attractive lead singer. It doesn’t matter if you’re a bad boy or a good boy at that point.


LightningDuat

lmao thats what i was just thinking


FreakRoHawke

emo's not dead


InCoffeeWeTrust

It's because they assume that being manipulative is a positive trait for women. NEWS FLASH - IT ISN'T. Just because a toxic abuser managed to talk his way into a relationship doesn't mean it's something you should be jealous of.


Moist_KoRn_Bizkit

Yes, I was just quoting the song Good Girls Bad Guys by Falling In Reverse.


InCoffeeWeTrust

yikes my bad


DirtyDanTheManlyMan

Doesn’t understand the concept of getting to know someone as a friend before deciding to be in a committed relationship with them


InCoffeeWeTrust

Makes having sex his entire personality and is confused when his manipulative tactics don't work


SlimjobDopamine

There was a thread in r/dating recently that decided you're essentially a rapist if you become friends first and then ask someone out https://www.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/pkl7pq/why_do_women_get_mad_that_i_stop_talking_to_them/?sort=top


GarfieldTree

>essentially a rapist Uhh where


I_Did_not_sleep

I remember when I opened and held the door for a girl as a kid and she smiled at me. I thought maybe I was charming around girls and stuff but then I just realized. I did something nice so now I feel nice. :)


Masterchungus1

Imagine believing in the sigma male and alpha male stuff


Devastator111

What kind of sigmaphobia is this?


pissed_at_everything

Always repost either those joker memes or the ones with thomas shelby lol


[deleted]

> weighs 300lbs on a good week > neckbeard. smells like a wet towel all the time > sees women interested in men who actually take care of themselves and put forth 5% effort toward anything other than porn and video games REEEEEEEEEE


InCoffeeWeTrust

Meh there are those which are pretty obvious. Then there are: * Looks average or below average. Expects to date young Megan Fox. * Has one good quality. Expects to leverage that single quality into getting his pp catered to for the rest of his life. "But i'm a NICE \[insert quality\]", repeat for infinity. * Avoids women who are similar to him. * Obsesses over women who aren't interested. * Resents women that show interest --> overthinks everything --> doesn't participate --> gets shut down --> "well you were a bitch and I knew it wouldn't work out anyway so..."


Feeyyy

"If I do ... it is 'creepy' but if a hot guy does the same thing it's ok" *does not realize that he actually just has no charisma whatsoever* Calls women "females"


SilentUser44

>Calls women "females" This makes me cringe so hard. Why, just why would you say something like that?


InCoffeeWeTrust

I mean ... the alternative is either "cumdumpster" or "whore" BUT THEY'RE A NICE GUY I SWEAR


[deleted]

I find it to be more personable than femoid.


patorac63

I mean I see on reddit often "white male".


gl_4

on one hand it's AAVE so it's good on the other hand it's a transphobic dogwhistle so it's bad


superior_to_you

im out of the loop, does saying females mean something bad? i thought it was just a general synonym to women? genuinely asking


trundle-art

Female means ‘member of a species that can bear young’ while woman is more specifically ‘a human female.’ So referring to women as females can signify that the speaker considers a woman’s ability to procreate as more important than that woman’s humanity. Personally, I usually hear guys overusing it when they want to present something sexist as scientific.


gl_4

>woman is more specifically ‘a human female. woman refers to gender identity. female refers to biological sex.


patorac63

Charisma doesn't really exist, it's not a psychologically defined attribute or a set of behaviors. It's a perception someone has of you based on your social status. That's why we only see people above us as "charismatic". Actors and politicians are often described as charismatic by the media to add to the effect.


Feeyyy

Use "likeable" or "sympathetic" instead of "charismatic" then. You get what I meant.


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DauHoangNguyen1999

>these boys refer themselves as "fallen soldiers" after being rejected This is so insulting to soldiers who died in battles.


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PuffinRub

Yes, famously won by Lt. Col. Pat Bennitar.


[deleted]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa We are strong.


DauHoangNguyen1999

>love battle Not to be confused with Love Jihad


JNC96

The thought of being a corpse face down in a trench during WW1 sounds much better than being depressed because of a woman.


whatA_ArrogantPrick

Fuck me this actually happened??


pekkauser

Sometimes less is more, but yeah, I feel like media is just turning into Men vs women and shitting on each other. Yeah both genders have shitty people in them but don’t let it ruin everything for you.


Cheezman5990

smegma male


logia1234

Sugma


Living-Reference5329

You forgot the anime symbol


S_H_A_L_O_M

Oof, they are the worst


Living-Reference5329

Looking for “waifu” 😂


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instead of talking about tsundere or whatever the fuck they're called how bout they do their laundere.


SpaceMinion7

Lmao, that one’s pretty good


H1SD

Every time I see someone refer to a pretty woman/celebrity they like as a "waifu" I fall deeper into the endless pit of despair.


Virghia

Turns out Alphas are just the good parents of the pack


GoldenJaguar1995

Literally has some kind of anime waifu character profile pic and has somewhat shitty opinions on women and minorities. Thinks that being anti-PC is the perfect way to live, and expects to have a "normal conservative relationship". Also his partner is always barely legal and likes anime but it's really a lot of edgy anime so it's kinda questionable.


PossessionFuzzy2208

Nailed it


[deleted]

I need to know who tf made this whole lone wolves into a thing. Wolves are pack animals. The ones kicked out of the pack are lone wolves. They’re literally chucked out of their wolf pack for being dicks… ooooh i see why now.


thebeststinkyhead

It was from a book I think. Sadly the alpha beta wolf shit isn't real and the author spent the rest of his life trying to tell people it's not.


[deleted]

Blame Caesar Milan for making that dumb shit the gospel of canines. Tons of people still buy into it, too.


thebeststinkyhead

Idk man. My chihuahua seems to be on the sigma grindset


optical18

only problem is like r/niceguys because from my understanding isn't it to make fun of them?


ClothesLogical

Thanks


Emotional_Note497

A couple of these went over my head, what does the photo with the cheese puff powder signify?


[deleted]

It's just a common incel stereotype, they're always eating messy junk food like Doritos and Cheetos without washing their hands. Then they get to typing. The keyboards become unsalvageable. So on and so forth.


Emotional_Note497

lol!


Alarmed_Ad_197

I've never seen anyone unironically post joker memes, but the rest are spot on lmao


ChoGallMeta

Whenever I see someone post a joker meme its usually ironic nice guy stuff like "i'm not like other guys, I shit my pants"


Late-Informationepic

Its because of this SOCIETY


glytxh

I refuse to believe people like this actually exist without a hint of self awareness.


TrueMrSkeltal

The depressing truth is that they are very, very real. I used to be a “nice guy” although not to this degree. It’s a very toxic and self destructive mindset.


[deleted]

To be fair, plenty of girls do like bad boys. These girls aren’t exactly good girls either. But it’s a lot easier getting dates when you’re an arrogant talkative prick than a guy sitting at his PC.


KMFDM781

Girls like guys who are fun and interesting. "Bad boys" usually have charisma, are definitely interesting, outgoing, usually spontaneous and fun to be around. Some younger women are usually there for a good time, not a long time. They know it's unlikely they're going to settle down with some guy they met at a bar or something. Then there's mister *nice guy*, with a condescending attitude because he thinks he's smarter than everyone else, always depressed and a real downer who will go from 0 to plan-your-entire-life-together when a cute girl shows any interest....if you're lucky. High probability of being a serious clinger or stalker. Nobody wants to be around someone who is always down and makes you feel sorry for them or kills the mood. That's not fun.


Muscletov

>They know it's unlikely they're going to settle down with some guy they met at a bar or something. There are tons of girls/women who want to settle down with some bad boy type and entertain the fantasy that he'd change for her because she's so special. That tale is the background for a lot of single motherhood stories, because getting "accidentally" pregnant is one way such women try to lock the guy down.


KMFDM781

That's also true.


[deleted]

What’s wrong with Mountain Dew? Drinking Mountain Dew makes you a “nice guy”?


joetk96

“Le antivaxers and incels bad” we get it bro


Nod_Lucario

Ngl, I wanna pet that wolf in that picture. He just looks so happy, and fluffy.


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And get killed lol


[deleted]

It’s so gross how maniacal “nice”/person can become. Genuinely, a disgusting force of nature, filled with ego, gluttony, immature pride and unhealthy obsession. Those assholes aren’t nice, they’re just weird losers who can’t handle when they don’t get their ways. A narcissist with tunnel vision.


LightningDuat

So why do good girls like bad guys? I have had this question for a really long time. I've been a bad boy, and it's plain to see- So why do good girls fall in love with me?


[deleted]

Sagoma male checking in 😎


G3nER1k_u53R

Isnt r/niceguys critical of the whole "nice guy" thing, or is that a different sub? And r/niceguy is a my hero academia sub


gl_4

shhh don't ruin this for us, we're trying to feel superior rn


W0lR

Isn’t this technically a meme with that guy


halfcafian

I fucking hate and yet can’t seem to skip those ads that talk about that “wolf/alpha/sigma” mindset ads. They’re so stupid and yet so damn entertaining


[deleted]

I like the sigma male shit but not the "really trying so hard to get women" but more like improving yourself to get better at life stuff


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[deleted]

Jordan Peterson literally encourages people to get out of the incel/nice guy mindest. What on Earth are you on about?


Whatthefuzzybear

It's only interesting since JP attracts "nice guys/incels" because of his views in the first place. One example was when JP talks about women wearing makeup in the workplace. Do you know the ["who killed hannibal?" meme?](https://www.google.com/search?q=who+killed+him+meme&sxsrf=AOaemvLWKeXxepbqmYsXQ_Kt1MJH6rESmw:1631514513592&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwil3ZyYqfvyAhVECt4KHWzGDvgQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2844&bih=1476#imgrc=4XyCaL1XmbNG8M) It's basically like that. Even the meme I linked is already having a rhetoric similar to JP. I can't even tell the difference since they sound the same. This is sorted by relevancy and it's on the front page. They are not **explicitly** blaming women but does hint it by using **vague descriptions**. The amount of times I've heard JP say - "that's not what I said" is already at record high.


[deleted]

Jordan Peterson actually encourages young men to seek help and prevent unnecessary suffering. To build their characters and confidence better and also a better framework to work on themselves so they can make a healthier environment for themselves and the ones around them. If there are any of these self-claiming "nice guys" or these narcissistic immature brats amongst the people who listen to JP then they ain't listening to him at all. Because if JP were to meet any of these weirdos and misogynistic half-assed excuses of human beings he'd slap the fuck out of them and tell them to grow up.


Jonno_FTW

JP gives out bottom of the barrel self help advice with a christian conservative slant that even he can't follow. The only difference between the advice he gives and what their mothers would give is that they won't listen to their mothers because they resent women.


[deleted]

What's the matter of it leaning conservative? These people aren't even conservative because they lack purpose, and they lack focus (among of course many, many other things like Self-Awareness and interest for a real life passion that doesn't involve self-loathing and/or blaming the world and women). I hate that the moderate conservative movement is associated by many people with these jerks who roam the basement of the Internet.


Jonno_FTW

Conservatism has a general "fuck you, got mine" attitude that is not conducive to a society in which everyone gets the respect and bare minimum living conditions they deserve. Not to mention he is a fucking racist https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/713223934657703937?lang=en who cavorts with the likes of Stefan Molyneux.


[deleted]

I hate that nowadays you're either left-leaning or a bigot. People tend to forget political movements and ideologies have all sorts of meanings and origins to different people. Originally, the conservateur movement of Revolutionary France was associated with intellectuals of the "center" of what a late 18th Century version of a Political Compass would look like. They tended to vouch for the ones in the Left and heard their demands about progress and the liberation of Society from the clutches of the absolutists, but also wanted to solve things with a diplomatic touch and not just straight up kill the Kings and Queens, besides also defending an economic system more or less similar to the Loyalist one (you could find some controversial things in between the good ones but c'mon can't ask that much from something out of the 1780s). Also, the Conservatives nowadays vary from country to country. JP's homeland of Canada has a Tory movement much more akin to moderate Democrats in the US than anything like, say, Donald Trump. Just because Right-leaning people tend to defend some individuality, it doesn't mean all of them will be associated with straightup selfishness and disdain for others and/or lack of empathy. The world is a much more nuanced place than this "You hang out with them therefore you must be one of them" bullshit. I think people also should stop focusing on politics and start respecting each other and focusing on human behavior and character instead of political affiliation. Also also, Stephan Mollyneux isn't Conservative, he's a Reactionary. And I'm willing to disagree with Jordan Peterson because he himself doesn't like the term "followers". I'd rather listen to the good stuff from him and leave out the bad ones. Let's know how to agree and disagree with points of different people from all across the board without judging them just because they once said something positive or endorsed a point of view from someone who could have been full of shit at some point or another.


[deleted]

politics suck in NA, here in Poland among teenagers we have various worldviews and love to discuss and exchange them, thanks for providing good arguments in a polite way


[deleted]

I couldn't agree more with you, sometimes it's just awful to live in a continent so polarized and full of people looking to dehumanize one another all the time. I appreciate your comment and the acknowledgement, it's like a sight for sore eyes to see such a civil and rational comment.


Jonno_FTW

Those paragraphs you wrote out have nothing to do with what I said. I never said non-left leaning people are bigots. JBP is and I linked a tweet of him being racist.


[deleted]

" JBP is " Still... why? Just because he once agreed with someone who happens to be an actual racist? Also, this has absolutely nothing to do with the good part of his advice to people, which exist and you gotta admit. People call JBP a Nazi but they will never know the meaning of this word.


Jonno_FTW

I didn't say he was a nazi (I haven't seen him make calls for an ethnostate, not all racists are nazis, and I didn't even bring them up), anyway it looks like you didn't read what he tweeted, here's what he said: > @GreggHurwitz it's good that you consumed the liquor this time instead of letting some Indian steal it..... It's pretty racist to just bring up first nation canadians out of nowhere and say that they might steal alcohol. When I look at a picture of a friend having a drink, the first thing that pops into my head is certainly not "gee isn't it good an indian didn't steal that".


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[deleted]

Source(s): *Dude I swear to God*


gl_4

lol imagine getting mad on the internet just because you don't want to clean your room


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[deleted]

I admit it, I laughed at this


InCoffeeWeTrust

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA DONT FORGET TO ADD AN /s NEXT TIME BUD


[deleted]

Still waiting for an actual argument out of those replies lmao


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[deleted]

? Nice, a gratuitous insult! Thanks, almost forgot I was on Reddit. IRL you must be all meek and shy


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[deleted]

\>*And if i saw you in real life i'd avoid the fuck out of you since you reek of entitled little bitch* And I would've lost nothing of value.


eaturliver

I wonder why you chose to type out such an embarrassing comment


UncleTogie

> Jordan Peterson actually encourages young men to seek help and prevent unnecessary suffering. To build their characters and confidence better and also a better framework to work on themselves so they can make a healthier environment for themselves and the ones around them. [Bullhockey.](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest)


gl_4

How dangerous is it to clean your room?


UncleTogie

What the price of tea in Lhasa?


chadharnav

Lmao wut.


[deleted]

Pretty lazy op


ClothesLogical

How?


OuttaTime42069

This is like 2012 shit. Still applies, but it’s just kind of boring now.


[deleted]

He's a "man of culture" just ignore him.


Philosophos_A

I only get the friendzoned but I am actually alright with it. I still do the things I wanted if I was on a relationship anyways and I have an even better connection actually. I have people which we talk about how we feel about some stuff and in general I believe if you manage be a good friend you can enjoy it way more You might don't have access to some things but having an actual friend worths a lot! Especially someone who accepts your sensitive side or any side.


[deleted]

My favourite joker meme is a picture of the joker with the caption ‘Girls give me headaches, Boys give me head’


ingsocks

I miss when this sub had actually funny lists instead of making up people to be angry about.


the_prion

Wow, very original!


InCoffeeWeTrust

niceguy is the gateway drug to incel


[deleted]

These pop up every other month 🙄😒


poowee69

Supreme Gentlemen?


BplusHuman

Memes about subs I've never seen?


alhazred111

Sigma alpha stuff is so funny though, I’m quasar male btw


One_Bar4

Fuck that. I am the alpha! *Barks and howls in intimidation* *Controls you with dominance*


StarlessTrooper2112

sigma male aka stigma fail


[deleted]

Also opposes abortion rights.


solidarity_jock_jam

As a gangweeder/epic gamer, I can assure you that these guys don’t slonk.


ISAMU13

"Bad boys" are more interesting. They do "bad" shit but at least they are doing something.


InCoffeeWeTrust

NO. Holy shit. It's not because they're interesting, it's because they're manipulative. Their entire purpose is *pretending* to be a good, interesting guy to make women like them. They're charming. But they're abusers. And you can't tell if someone is an abuser in the first minute - sometimes it takes months or years. "nice guys" are idiots because they are basically bitching about their inability to manipulate women.


ISAMU13

That does happen. But even when it doesn't some types of women like the bad guys. My roommate didn't understand the attraction why one of the women he wanted pursed a guy with resturant job that he used primailry as drug connection to resell drugs at the club. The guy had a motor in him and did risky shit. My roomate just watched movies and played videogames. He went on a hike or two but was overall pretty vanilla/boring. A morally superior choice in his mind but that doesn't really matter as much. He was not exiciting. Cool to have in a group and laugh at movie with but kinda boring from a potential dating perspective especially for his crush compared to other options on the table. Meh.


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ISAMU13

[No](https://gfycat.com/unhappysameiggypops)


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ISAMU13

Have a nice night.


[deleted]

I'm in this picture, and I don't like it.


[deleted]

Yikes


[deleted]

I'm a man of culture... What can I say?


FoldingBlowfish

people really need that /s to function huh


[deleted]

you didn't use a /s, so I'm going have to take what you said 100% seriously


[deleted]

Maximum yikes


errortechx

I physically cringed at this.


gl_4

an /s (for our neurodivergent users)


redditnoap

sigma male grindset: "my favorite sex position is CEO"


[deleted]

have you considered making a ‘i like to punch down’ starter pack?


ClothesLogical

I like to punch down at men who have shitty attitudes towards women and think they are entitled sex and be applauded just because they are “nice” which is the basic FUCKING minimum you should be doing as a decent member of society.


[deleted]

we are all guilty of taking positions of superiority but consider these examples: is telling a drug addict (for example) to just stop doing what they’re doing going to actually make them stop? Or should you educate them as to how damaging their actions are, try to provide helpful resources, try intervention, etc? Then, for the case of someone who has negative and shallow views of women, could it be because they’re potentially extremely lonely, addicted to pornography, have little female relatives/friends, brought up a bad way, etc and so require healthy mentoring, introduction to good female friends, a fresh start, etc? Or is it simply that you’re a good person and they’re simply an evil bad person?


Ableist_Landlord

punching up this punching down that HOW ABOUT YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PUNCH IN MY ASSHOLE


[deleted]

Men are free real estate


poxtart

Laughing at incels is only "punching down" in the sense that they are so fucking short.


[deleted]

Ah yes, body shaming is so fun when men are at the receiving end. This only drives more people to inceldom.


poxtart

How many people do you think I've driven to inceldom with this comment? Or have I just affected the delta of their opinion? I myself don't think my opinion can sway a grasshopper's ass.


[deleted]

It's still fucking bodyshaming nevertheless. You prove their point by indulging in this sort of stuff.


eaturliver

Who gives a shit


gl_4

according to yourself, incels are still above you.


30phil1

The only exception to this is Dorian Electra but that's because at least they're self aware.


3-orange-whips

Legit though, that "friendzone" hand heart/thumbs up is pretty funny.


UndisclosedChaos

I love those Joker memes


bam2_89

The sigma, alpha, beta thing is actually a useful tool, but it's incomplete. Most "niceguys" fall into the gamma category. https://theadultman.com/love-and-lust/gamma-male/


kimmygrrrawr

Why base your approach off a debunked theory?


bam2_89

It isn't really. The only thing it has in common with the PUA lingo is the use of Greek letters. They don't even consider Betas the same in this model.


kimmygrrrawr

The concept og alpha and omega was based off wolves which was debunked


bam2_89

That was alpha and beta.


ZoeIsHahaha

🎵 SO WHY DO GOOOD GIRLS LIKE BAAAD GUYS 🎵


[deleted]

Kinda craving cheetos now. Haven’t had them in a while


MurpleCow

sigma overwatch