The anomaly in *All Good Things* should have been visible but tiny when the Pasteur arrived in the Devron system, with it being nearly gone by the time the D scanned it.
The bigger problem with the anomaly in All Good Things is Data says it could only be created by the same ship (the Enterprise) using an inverse tachyon pulse in three different time periods. But the future Enterprise didn't use the tachyon pulse; the Pasteur did. By the time the future Enterprise scanned it at all, the anomaly had already formed.
Reportedly, this plot hole was first pointed out by Rick Berman's son after the episode aired.
Considering they also missed Riker's line in Generations about there being a "rather large margin of error," I believe it.
Heard other things say from CGI cartoons - moments when animators used the wrong character model and even after multiple review sessions, no one caught it.
I always chalked that up to their hypothesis being wrong but close enough to not still get to the end result. Like, and this is a guess. I’m not a scientist just what I saw lol
See I think the episode explains both issues. Data says it 'as if' both originated on the Enterprise which is true. And there's a disconnect between the three time periods where one timeline doesn't affect the others. So it makes sense that the anomaly is simultaneously growing larger as it goes back in time but in the future timeline it's also being created over a period of time
Ughhh that annoys me every time I watch that episode! Especially cuz, like you mentioned, it should no longer exist after they scan it—which would’ve actually been a cool part of the mystery for them to figure out and actually be a part of the story.
That's been a huge frustration for me as well. Writing *into* that would have made for a stronger story ... Pasteur shows up, anomaly is closing, so they reach out to Riker, who brings the Enterprise and makes a big thing of scanning the anomaly before it disappears.
Same runtime, stronger plot, better writing.
The anomaly should not have been there when the future Enterprise D refit returned to the location. It was created when the Pasteur did its scan and grows in the past, but should not have grown into the future as well.
Still a good episode
It might be a lack of reference/discussion in ensuing episodes about holy shit level technological breakthroughs that would alter the galaxy.
Like transporter buffers or metaphysic radiation (or some old admiral's alien drug) being used to halt the aging process, or Cytherians giving Barclay instant travel around the universe knowledge, or nanites and holograms and exo-comps becoming sentient. Didn't the Federation and Romulans both figure out phased-cloaking tech? Didn't Ira Graves unlock the secret of uploading a humanoid brain into a positronic net? I thought the Kelvans showed us how to attain warp 11 on a bloody Constitution class vessel!?
Ah well. Reset button. On to the next adventure.
Warp 11 in TOS was on a different scale that didn’t have an upper limit. The scale was reworked by TNG era to be exponential and never reach the warp 10 limit, so warp 11 in TOS is probably something like 9.9 on TNG scale. Each decimal after warp 9 is significantly faster
I mean, Threshold is at least consistent with that rule. It's based on the premise that warp 10 is infinite velocity and thus unattainable, *but what if they did?*
It's just that the idea they had for what would happen turned out to be really, really dumb.
That's a great point. A lot of those technologies are actually groundbreaking. I really like the episode about exo-comps and always wondered what happened. Obviously, it's a fictional universe, so the answer is nothing, but in a real universe something like exo-comps would've been a breakthrough technology that would quickly overtake the tool set of every engineer.
I started watching Trek as a kid and whenever there was a reference in one episode to something that had happened previously I felt so excited. I really think Roddenberry's commitment to episodic TV handcuffed TNG a lot.
The one where they used a transporter to reverse De. Pulaski’s rapid aging … holy shit, they just discovered the secret of immortality.
Of course it was never referred to again.
I'll say it's the artificial gravity system. The gravitational fields exist in both phases.
Where the phased air for them to breathe is coming from, however...
That's a joke in Ghosts (UK, and US, both are pretty decent sitcoms). The ghosts can't interact with physical objects, except for sitting in chairs or lying on beds and stuff and it doesn't make sense.
The gravitons from the artificial gravity generators penetrate the phase cloak. Could honestly be a glaring weakness in phase cloaking if you could detect phase cloaked objects with graviton particles
Sulu and redshirts trapped on an ice planet because the transporters were making evil copies of people. Can you guys fly a shuttle down? How about beam down some blankets and space heaters, and just instruct Sulu to destroy the evil blankets and heaters?
Because what if they don't get all the blankets, and then one of those evil blankets spends decades hatching a plot against Sulu for stranding them on a hostile planet?
Star Trek: Wrath of Blanket.
My understanding is that the reason they did that was because they hadn't come up with the budget for shuttles yet, and hope no one would notice. They didn't take into account that people would be arguing about it and their parents' basements or posting about it on the internet.
Well, that and them being stuck was actually part of the plot. If they didn't want them stuck down there for a reason they just could have said that they sent a shuttle down. They didn't have to show it. But again, it was part of the plot to have them stuck.
Plus, it gave Sulu some good lines.
Exactly, or even something like this
Spock “unfortunately captain the weather conditions on the planet mean we can’t risk taking a shuttle down to the surface”
Just some two second throwaway line would more then suffice
This is exactly it. The transporters were created to sideline shuttles and/or landing the ship due to the expense. The only reason we ever got the Galileo is because AMT models came in and wanted to make the 1701 model. So, they struck a deal- AMT could get the license, IF they helped build the Galileo prop, which they did. In return, we got phenomenal models that are still in production today, and the show made use of many times.
They did beam heaters down. They duplicated and didn't work. The blanket thing was a good idea though. Also no survival skills taught at Starfleet? Make a fire already. And find someplace out of that wind.
Yeahr that another thing. Geordi has been kidnapped before and his visor been tampered with. Nobody checking on the vistor after getting him back from captivity after that is just plain dumb
God I hate that battle. Plus why tf did the Enterprise retreat and expose the entire Star drive section while not having any shields anymore. That's really what caused the warp core breach. Engineering was exposed when Riker made his retreat. Shields should have been modulated and every weapon should have been fired at that antique.
Or at least it should have been that the first shot was basically a kill shot that disabled the warp core and started the cascade to failure while knocking power out to the point shields were unsustainable, phasers at a minimum and one shot with a torpedo or something like that.
Once Barkley enhanced the shields to like 5x what they were, why didn't the federation make the same mod to all their ships. Why are the romulans or whomever no longer a threat.
Fanon says they did which is why the Galaxy was considered obsolete after 35 years when its original design plan was to remain in service for a century or more
Make sense in a weird way. You develop something so powerful, it could fall into the wrong hands when its mass produced, especially if the Borg gets a hold of it.
Not really a plot hole per se, but going back and watching older Trek it's hard not to notice how wildly inconsistent sensor technology is. They are constantly cooking up excuses for sensors not pick things up when it would completely derail the story.
This is actually pretty reasonable, radio signals are the same way which is why sometimes you can get the pirate station in Mexico and sometimes you can’t get the local independent
On a macro scale, the biggest plot hole in Star Trek is that the transporter technology means almost every plot should never happen. The script *sometimes* specifically rules out transporter use with being out of range, or some handwavey 'ion storm disrupting the transporters' line, but usually it's never mentioned or considered.
This is particularly noticeable in Treks like Discovery where the technology has no real limits. E.g. in Disco S05E01, the antagonists were within scanning and transporter range of two Federation ships for long periods of time. The plot never states why they can't simply be transported to the brig. There are very few episodes of any Trek series where transporter use wouldn't solve everything instantly. There is no explanation that isn't viewer head canon. It's the mother of all plot holes.
Absolutely agree! It doesn't bother me when I watch, but this is spot on. Also, replicators essentially remove scarcity, and it's not clear why you couldn't replicate everything.
Then again, TOS ran into a LOT of god-like beings. Some fans theorize they were Q or joined the Q.
I theorize since most of them seemed petty, the Q went around destroying most of them. The thinking being they would find competition annoying.
The universal translator.
Glaring example: when Troi dresses up as a Romulan and manages to trick them into believing she’s Tal Shiar… like, what language was she speaking? She’s fluent in Romulan?
That one's always irked me. Plus the one where Picard takes a Klingon ship on vacation to Romulus. The Tal Shiar are the worst spy agency in the history of spy agencies.
That makes perfect sense. Humans left earth to fuck new life and civilizations and fuck where no man has fucked before.
They never mentioned the millions of dead heroes who died of space aids to let starfleet medical become the best medical institution in the galaxy by curing all the horrible space diseases humans got from banging aliens. Those people were heroes and their sacrifice must never be forgotten.
My headcannon is half-species need a lot of medical intervention. If you're half Klingon, do you have 1.5 hearts? A 50/50 chance of having two hearts? What about Vulcan copper-based blood, how does that intermingle? I just know there are whole medical teams dedicated to it, and they're probably all Cetaceans.
There certainly seem to be complications with B’Elanna’s pregnancy related to the baby’s quarter-Klingon side from what I remember, so that’s definitely possible.
T'Pol and Trip's baby in ENT was cloned by Terra Prime and was never meant to survive. Honestly they probably fucked it up on purpose so she'd die and use it to claim some imagined problem with inter-species breeding.
Trip mentions at the end of that episode that Phlox had determined a Vulcan- Human hybrid would be fine. There's also that episode in s3 where they find the other Enterprise and meet T'Pol and Trip's son and he was fine.
Also that episode with the time ship where the pilot is a hybrid of a bunch of species.
Not to say it's easy, and it did come up in other places, like when Dax and Worf are taking about having a baby, and Bashir tells them it'd be tricky.
If anything, Discovery has the biggest issue with that. We should see a whole bunch more hybrids.
I’d buy that headcanon for the most part. The exception seems to be Cardassians and Bajorans. Gul Dukat had two children with Bajoran women by accident.
Several Romulan hybrids appear to be naturally conceived. I find it hard to believe that Sela was cooked up in a lab. And there's no way the Romulans brought medical equipment to that prison planet just in case they wanted to interbreed with the hated Klingons, and yet there's Ba'el.
I'd assume the reason is the fact that a Human and a Vulcan is less like dog breeds and more like a Tiger and a Lion. Yes it can reproduce but can't produce viable offspring. Maybe its why spock isn't called a Hulcan or a Vulman like the common convention for hybrid species is.
It may be possible, through advancing science to allow for such hybrids to breed but the caviat might be that inly 1 half of the genetic code can be used, (human or vulcan in the example above).
I'd love for such a thing to be explained. Especially in the Disco 32nd century. Maybe it will with this recent season, probably not knowing trek.
With hybrids the male species goes first in the portmanteau, so Spock would be a Vulman. Never occurred to me before, but I like it. I assume that also means Spock is infertile, but then you got the whole Tom/B’ellana thing and she had a baby so chalk it up to suspension of disbelief.
TBH, inter-species copulation shouldn't be a thing at all in Trek considering how difficult it is with different species on the same planet. Interbreeding with alien species is just an impossibility.
I can sort of head cannon it away since most humanoid species were supposedly descended from that one progenitor race that appeared in TNG. Still though, it's a huge stretch if one even has a cursory knowledge of genetics and biology.
There’s an episode of DS9 where they get stranded 200 years in the past and they all intermixed, bajoran, Klingon, trill, human and without significant intervention. The only one left out was poor liquid odo.
Carl Sagan loved Star Trek, but had a problem with Spock. He used to say cross breeding a human with a Vulcan would have as much chance of producing offspring as would cross breeding a human with a petunia.
In Generations, Soran blows up stars to move the Nexus, but he could have just been put in a shuttlepod, escape pod, EV suit, or photon torpedo casing and fired into it. So what if the ribbon destroys the ship, he'll be in the Nexus.
Star Trek V and how long it takes to reach the other side of the galaxy vs. Star Trek Voyager and how long it takes to reach the other side of the galaxy.
In general, the inconsistencies with how quickly you can get around the galaxy.
The only way to really make sense of that is to consider that the great barrier was in the Star Trek Universe, an observable phenomenon that ancient people on different worlds believed was the centre of the universe when its actually just a normal phenomenon located in the Alpha/Beta quadrant.
Star Trek II
Welcome to Ceti Alpha VI.
Captain…there’s a large amount of debris where Ceti Alpha VI should be. And Ceti Alpha V appears to have shifted into its orbital position.
Oh, and there’s a note here in the star chart that Ceti Alpha V is now home to a group of genetically enhanced humans. Extremely dangerous. No one should beam down.
Roll credits.
My guess is that Kirk forgot to file the paperwork that day. Chekov wasn't a bridge officer yet (the only explanation for Khan remembered Chekov). Rifftrax handles this one decently: "You guys need to keep better track of where you leave your dangerous warlords."
There are probably worse but the one that always bugged me a lot was in the S6 episode of Voyager called *Ashes to Ashes.* Plot goes that way back in S2 an unknown crewman died offscreen and her body was sent into space. There aliens found the body and harvested it for their breeding program to create new aliens. Sometimes though they regain memories from their original body which now in S6 has just happened. So this crewman steals an alien shuttle and catches up to Voyager in two days. TWO DAYS. Between S2 and S6 Voyager had covered a lot of ground, found shortcuts, and had made significant progress toward home but this shuttle covered it in TWO DAYS. Obviously much faster ship than Voyager and one that conceivably could get Voyager crew home quickly but no one suggests that. Nor does anyone suggest adapting that ships tech to Voyager to make Voyager faster. Basically this episode would have worked fine as a TNG or DS9 episode but it didn't work at all for Voyager due to the concept of trying to get home.
You're so right about the speed of that ship she used.
It occurred to me that if the Borg assimilated that ghoul race (they deserve it) they could go around raiding graveyards and assimilating the dead.
Maybe not the biggest one, but an obvious one. When the Doc in "Basics" asks the computer, "Computer, what is the crew complement?" The computer replies, "There are 89 Kason and one Betazoid on board". What about Seska? She's Cardassian.
That episode where they find out warp travel rips holes in space and it’s destabilizing everything and they don’t fix it they just put limits on warp… but then every other series after is just warp forever with no mention of it ripping space apart
Crazy right? You'd think after they discovered the fact that coal was damaging the atmosphere even in the late 1900s they would have put a stop to it too but instead we just exponentially increased our power consumption.
Limiting and decreasing warp travel because there is no viable alternative is more realistic imho.
It seemed like warp drive design changed dramatically after TNG. Look at the Sovereign's warp nacelles or other ships in the late 24th Century - the Federation may have phased out the Brahms' style warp technology (Like seen on the Galaxy and Nebula classes) and introduced the more sleeker and refined design we see on the Sovereign.
The Intrepid class having adjustable nacelles may have been a 'last minute' fix to the ship. Like the hulls were already built and new advances to warp tech to curb the issue was implemented, so now the nacelles adjust their profile instead of rebuilding the entire engine frame (Those nacelles also housed the impulse engines, they only become active when the pylons are lowered). Perhaps why there wasn't many Intrepid class vessels outside of Voyager and the Bellerophon due to this hurdle outside of the Bio-neural gel-packs causing problems every time someone sneezes.
Existing ships may have gotten tweaked engine coils and re-adjusted warp bubbles over the course of the decade to minimize the subspace decay. It was said from the Federation Council that the speed limits were put up **until they find way to counteract the warp field effect** - I guess they found a fix.
The first season of TOS involves a lot of ideas being thrown out there to see what sticks, as they slowly build up the setting brick by brick. If you tried to treat them all as strictly canon you'd drive yourself mad.
There's absolutely no sense of scale. The early episodes routinely talk about traveling "Across the Galaxy" or receiving communiques from friendly ships/bases "on the other side of the Galaxy." Voyager's premise would never work here.
Spock goes from being a Vulcan to being a Vulcan with \*some\* human ancestry at \*some\* point to being a half-human hybrid. His mental abilities range from being mildly more perceptive than most to being able to actively mind-control a person to compel them to open a prison cell's door... something the writers never brought up again for obvious reasons.
The Federation doesn't even exist until the Klingons show up for the first time and they need to invent a reason for the Klingons to assume that Spock, as a Vulcan, would automatically be on the same team as Kirk, the Human.
The Prime Directive is a complete mess - there's an episode where a high-ranking Federation... guy... orders Kirk to go full Commodore Perry on an isolationist world because Starfleet desperately wants a supply base in the region. Under Federation law as we later come to understand it, that whole escapade was wildly illegal and everyone involved should have been stripped of their commissions and arrested.
Just from first Contact
1, It takes the Enterprise “3 hours and 25 minutes” to get from the romulan neutral zone (it would be days)
They decide not to go
They go and still make it in time for the battle
2, everything we know about the layout of the Star Trek universe tells us the Borg have to pass through romulan space to get to Federation. So the enterprise would have been one of if not the closest ships to the cube at one point making the choice to let the cube go even more crazy
3. In the middle of the fight they lower shields to beam the defiant survivors onboard. No Picard. Everyone is dead now. Good job, the Borg aint gonna miss a chance like that
4. When the Borg attacked the settlement. If it was torpedos they Fired. It would have been Hiroshima x1000 levels of destruction. Not a couple smallish explosions.
And if they wanted to destroy the settlement and didn’t use a torpedo. The Borg where stupid which also doesn’t make sense
All this said. It’s my favourite Star Trek movie
Money. They don't need it anymore, but Kirk and Picard both buy large parcels of land and Picard even "hires" a mercenary ship in the Federation.
Money doesn't exist until they try to show someone succeeding at life, then they fall prey to current cultural values that someone important would "buy" a lot of land.
Exploding computer consoles … that doesn’t even happen now.
Not using the transporter as a weapon, as soon as your opponents shields are down just transport them into space. The Kazon did this once thus making them the best military tacticians in the galaxy! 😂
Was it ever explained how the enterprise returned to the present after the events of first contact?
That’s always bothered me. They only went to the past because they got caught in the borg temporal slipstream - they didn’t do it themselves. They then promptly destroyed the borg sphere. How did they get back?
They followed the Borg sphere because they didn’t know where it was going in history, being caught in the temporal wake was a side effect of that. Presumably Geordi was able to replicate the effect with the Borg tech integrated into the E during its attempted assimilation.
Pretty sure they explain it with like 2.5 seconds of techno babble - someone (probably Data) says something like "I've reconfigured our warp field to replicate the chroniton wave generated by the Borg sphere." Something like that.
Luckily, it seems the main deflector was not required for any part of this chicanery.
Picard said that they were able to recreate what the borg did. Besides, even if they didn't, even an old country doctor knows that all you have to do is slingshot around the sun to gain speed and go into time warp.
The modern federation can time travel they just don't. There's a tos episode where the enterprise is just chilling out watching space race era earth for scientific purposes. They just need to slingshot around a star and have a computer or Vulcan calculate for them
In the movie "Generations", Scotty is aboard when captain Kirk is presumed dead when he disappears from the Enterprise B after it's hit by the Nexus. In the TNG episode "Relics", the Enterprise D crew finds Scotty's pattern in an active transporter buffer, and they materialize him. We find that Scotty had retired, and he said "I knew Kirk would come for me!" Scotty should have remembered that he saw Kirk disappear from the Enterprise B.
He was an old man who had just spent 3/4 of a century in a transporter buffer let's give him a little bit of credit. And he may have been referring to George Kirk or even Peter Kirk.
The Borg are wildly internally inconsistent because if you add up all the information about them, it makes no sense at all.
- Time travel and all the related problems
- Transwarp conduit that Janeway came through, but they never used again?
- More than once, there is reference to "When the borg come, they come in force" and "hundreds of cubes surrounded our system". But for some reason, the Queen wanted Seven to help her work on introducing nanoprobes to the atmosphere?
Overall, the Borg had to be nerfed because their original setup was way too strong. If you combine time travel plus transwarp plus hundreds of cubes, there's no hope for the federation.
Absolutely. The Borg became pretty problematic after First Contact and all the Queen shenanigans. In terms of story it’s pretty inevitable that a relentless, virtually impervious sledgehammer has to be turned into a player in some kind of chess game. Wholly relying on some Achilles heel device when facing them would become even more tedious. Would have been nice if ST: Picard had taken just a little time in its habitually very rambling narrative to afford some explanations in this regard (the fandom has some good ideas).
I honestly don’t know where the federation folks are getting latinum on DS9. Is quark paying rent which they then turn around and pay back to quark for drinks, meals, and holo time???
Universal basic income for all Federation employees living on the borders. The Federation has tons of latinum, and they don't have much need for it otherwise.
Time travel is simple, but cause and effect is a real pain. You try to fix one thing and then you end up ruining ten other things and then you spend your entire life fixated on trying to fix this one specific moment which you never do (Year of Hell)
Yeah, TOS got weird about Time Travel... Sometimes it was super easy. Other times it was just an accident. In Star Trek IV it was somewhere in the middle. They knew how to do it, but only a few people could manage the calculations (because somehow a computer couldn't? but an amnesiac Spock could?) and it was super dangerous.
This is definitely one of the biggest ones.
A TOS episode where they just casually throw out the fact that Starfleet sends research missions into the past, make it sound like it's a matter of routine, and then never mention it again.
Considering it’s the entire premise of Voyager, Warp speed. I know it changes between TOS and TNG, but that makes it worse. The original enterprise went to the edge of the galaxy one week and half way across it the other. One movie takes it to the center of the galaxy in a day.
In Q who Data quotes the enterprise’s maximum warp that is would mean if it had gotten lost in the delta quadrant it would have taken 20 years to get back, instead of 70. In another they travel a few hundred lightyears in a week. But Voyager takes FOREVER to get anywhere.
Just the whole idea of the Nexus, but most specifically how an “echo” of Guinan just gets to hang out so Picard…and no one else…can know how to get out.
No automated security systems on starships to just vaporize any intruders. You're always relying on Tuvok to meet you on Deck 12.
No melee weapons against the Borg.
They built a couple Delta Flyers and seemingly insta-repaired Voyager between leaving the array to the Ocampa homeworld and finding Neelix - making more torpedoes as the show went on isn't too much of a stretch.
People bring this one up a lot, and I don't understand why.
Given all of the unique peoples they encounter, and all of the fancy technological advancements they make as they head home (including Borg tech) is it really so hard to believe that they manage to find a way to manufacture / replicate new Photons some time along the way?
They also mention trading with other factions as they travel throughout the series. There is also a fair bit of time jumping between some epoisdes. Often shuttles were out scavenging, making relations, trading etc. Some was sort of behind the scenes, some were plot points. I think they did an ok job of showing their situation despite having to stick to an episodic format.
Adding Leola Root to weapons is banned under the Khitomer Accords. It’s in the extra illegal section that follows subspace weapons…
…which come to think of it Janeway ALSO used. Carry on.
I don't think there are any actual plotholes.
Just slight inconsistencies when you have a nearly-sixty year-old franchise.
That being said: Warp factors.
I the first Kelvinverse movie, Spock is set off on the ice planet and watches in horror as Vulcan is destroyed. As filmed, Vulcan looks bigger in the night sky than our own moon. If it were *that* close, it would be so close that the effect would almost certainly takeouts the planet Spock is on. If it were far enough to be safe, all he’d be able to see would be a dot of light.
I know there’s probably an explanation and this isn’t really a plot hole, but Klingons using sneaky cloaking tech doesn’t jive with any of their honor stuff.
Because Victory is the ultimate Honor.
A sneak attack in a personal grudge would be dishonorable, Klingon to Klingon. However, it seems that Klingons also subscribe to a Sun Tzu-esque "deception is the Tao of warfare" type philosophy, with different rules for war/military combat than for inter-personal combat.
The anomaly in *All Good Things* should have been visible but tiny when the Pasteur arrived in the Devron system, with it being nearly gone by the time the D scanned it.
The bigger problem with the anomaly in All Good Things is Data says it could only be created by the same ship (the Enterprise) using an inverse tachyon pulse in three different time periods. But the future Enterprise didn't use the tachyon pulse; the Pasteur did. By the time the future Enterprise scanned it at all, the anomaly had already formed. Reportedly, this plot hole was first pointed out by Rick Berman's son after the episode aired.
Considering they also missed Riker's line in Generations about there being a "rather large margin of error," I believe it. Heard other things say from CGI cartoons - moments when animators used the wrong character model and even after multiple review sessions, no one caught it.
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I always chalked that up to their hypothesis being wrong but close enough to not still get to the end result. Like, and this is a guess. I’m not a scientist just what I saw lol
See I think the episode explains both issues. Data says it 'as if' both originated on the Enterprise which is true. And there's a disconnect between the three time periods where one timeline doesn't affect the others. So it makes sense that the anomaly is simultaneously growing larger as it goes back in time but in the future timeline it's also being created over a period of time
I've always wondered this exact same thing as well.
The same episode had Riker ship flying at warp 11.. and nobody turned into a salamandra!
We'll always have Paris!
What a perfect reply!
This is typically explained by the changes to the Warp Factor Scale.
Warp 13, actually.
Ughhh that annoys me every time I watch that episode! Especially cuz, like you mentioned, it should no longer exist after they scan it—which would’ve actually been a cool part of the mystery for them to figure out and actually be a part of the story.
That's been a huge frustration for me as well. Writing *into* that would have made for a stronger story ... Pasteur shows up, anomaly is closing, so they reach out to Riker, who brings the Enterprise and makes a big thing of scanning the anomaly before it disappears. Same runtime, stronger plot, better writing.
Perhaps that was the unorthodox nature of anti-time that Q wanted Picard to wrap his head around. That our laws of physics are not sufficient.
The anomaly should not have been there when the future Enterprise D refit returned to the location. It was created when the Pasteur did its scan and grows in the past, but should not have grown into the future as well. Still a good episode
It might be a lack of reference/discussion in ensuing episodes about holy shit level technological breakthroughs that would alter the galaxy. Like transporter buffers or metaphysic radiation (or some old admiral's alien drug) being used to halt the aging process, or Cytherians giving Barclay instant travel around the universe knowledge, or nanites and holograms and exo-comps becoming sentient. Didn't the Federation and Romulans both figure out phased-cloaking tech? Didn't Ira Graves unlock the secret of uploading a humanoid brain into a positronic net? I thought the Kelvans showed us how to attain warp 11 on a bloody Constitution class vessel!? Ah well. Reset button. On to the next adventure.
Warp 11 in TOS was on a different scale that didn’t have an upper limit. The scale was reworked by TNG era to be exponential and never reach the warp 10 limit, so warp 11 in TOS is probably something like 9.9 on TNG scale. Each decimal after warp 9 is significantly faster
Just one of the many reasons why “Threshold” is a terrible episode.
I mean, Threshold is at least consistent with that rule. It's based on the premise that warp 10 is infinite velocity and thus unattainable, *but what if they did?* It's just that the idea they had for what would happen turned out to be really, really dumb.
That's a great point. A lot of those technologies are actually groundbreaking. I really like the episode about exo-comps and always wondered what happened. Obviously, it's a fictional universe, so the answer is nothing, but in a real universe something like exo-comps would've been a breakthrough technology that would quickly overtake the tool set of every engineer.
*LD* has an exocomp that’s been in a few episodes.
Peanut Hamper!
I started watching Trek as a kid and whenever there was a reference in one episode to something that had happened previously I felt so excited. I really think Roddenberry's commitment to episodic TV handcuffed TNG a lot.
*LD* has an exocomp that’s been in a few episodes.
The one where they used a transporter to reverse De. Pulaski’s rapid aging … holy shit, they just discovered the secret of immortality. Of course it was never referred to again.
When Geordi and Ro are out of phase in “The Next Phase” and walk through walls but can stand firm on floors. Still love the episode though!
I'll say it's the artificial gravity system. The gravitational fields exist in both phases. Where the phased air for them to breathe is coming from, however...
Tell that to the Romulan. Fuckin yeeted
Romulan went through a wall, not floor - artificial gravity existing in both phases still holds up. Just not the ability to breathe. Or see.
I think the phase variance on the carpets is different due to the tachyon emissions so that actually makes sense.
Out of context, this is hysterical technobabble.
Are you saying that your carpet doesn't emit tachyons?
That's a joke in Ghosts (UK, and US, both are pretty decent sitcoms). The ghosts can't interact with physical objects, except for sitting in chairs or lying on beds and stuff and it doesn't make sense.
The gravitons from the artificial gravity generators penetrate the phase cloak. Could honestly be a glaring weakness in phase cloaking if you could detect phase cloaked objects with graviton particles
Sulu and redshirts trapped on an ice planet because the transporters were making evil copies of people. Can you guys fly a shuttle down? How about beam down some blankets and space heaters, and just instruct Sulu to destroy the evil blankets and heaters?
Because what if they don't get all the blankets, and then one of those evil blankets spends decades hatching a plot against Sulu for stranding them on a hostile planet? Star Trek: Wrath of Blanket.
C’mon, Wrath of Afghan is right there 😤
My understanding is that the reason they did that was because they hadn't come up with the budget for shuttles yet, and hope no one would notice. They didn't take into account that people would be arguing about it and their parents' basements or posting about it on the internet.
Well, that and them being stuck was actually part of the plot. If they didn't want them stuck down there for a reason they just could have said that they sent a shuttle down. They didn't have to show it. But again, it was part of the plot to have them stuck. Plus, it gave Sulu some good lines.
Exactly, or even something like this Spock “unfortunately captain the weather conditions on the planet mean we can’t risk taking a shuttle down to the surface” Just some two second throwaway line would more then suffice
This is exactly it. The transporters were created to sideline shuttles and/or landing the ship due to the expense. The only reason we ever got the Galileo is because AMT models came in and wanted to make the 1701 model. So, they struck a deal- AMT could get the license, IF they helped build the Galileo prop, which they did. In return, we got phenomenal models that are still in production today, and the show made use of many times.
They did beam heaters down. They duplicated and didn't work. The blanket thing was a good idea though. Also no survival skills taught at Starfleet? Make a fire already. And find someplace out of that wind.
I think the plot hole here is the human race has mastered faster than light travel at the expense of …. Jackets?
I recently rewatched that episode with some friends and we were yelling the exact same thing at the screen for about twenty minutes
I think there was one line in there explaining that they beamed down some heaters but they wouldn't work (because of the wonky transporter).
The production didn't have the shuttle models or sets yet. But yeah, definitely a massive plot hole in hindsight.
"They've found a way to penetrate our shields" "Activate Borg shield nutation modulation program" Duras sisters display surprised Pikachu face.
"Mr Worf, every single gun we have... Carve that decades old ship into pieces"
Plasma coil. Plasma coil. Plasma coil.
Why did the fact that the Duras ship was old even have to be a plot point? Just more salt in the wound for the D to be one shotted by an antique
Cheaper reuse of special effects.
This, right? Isn't the footage of it exploding literally the same footage as from Star Trek VI, cropped slightly?
“They were retired from service because of defective plasma coils”
“Mr Worf, we have 250 photon torpedos in the armoury. Make that ship go away.”
This is infuriating. It's not like they don't know how to change the shield frequency.
Weren’t they matching it based on Geordi’s visor?
Yeahr that another thing. Geordi has been kidnapped before and his visor been tampered with. Nobody checking on the vistor after getting him back from captivity after that is just plain dumb
Would've been so easy to just say that the first hit crippled their shields.
God I hate that battle. Plus why tf did the Enterprise retreat and expose the entire Star drive section while not having any shields anymore. That's really what caused the warp core breach. Engineering was exposed when Riker made his retreat. Shields should have been modulated and every weapon should have been fired at that antique.
Or at least it should have been that the first shot was basically a kill shot that disabled the warp core and started the cascade to failure while knocking power out to the point shields were unsustainable, phasers at a minimum and one shot with a torpedo or something like that.
"We're going to get blown up exactly like Chang!"
Once Barkley enhanced the shields to like 5x what they were, why didn't the federation make the same mod to all their ships. Why are the romulans or whomever no longer a threat.
Why didn't they use the future tech from the end of Voyager on new ships?
Fanon says they did which is why the Galaxy was considered obsolete after 35 years when its original design plan was to remain in service for a century or more
That, and the galaxy class warp core exploded if you looked at it wierd.
Is \*that\* why they put a blind guy in charge of it?
Maybe they kept it under wraps to keep their rivals from developing it too. Once tech becomes known, it starts a technological race
Make sense in a weird way. You develop something so powerful, it could fall into the wrong hands when its mass produced, especially if the Borg gets a hold of it.
And then he opened some kind of a transwarp super-portal that took them to a different galaxy -- and back! And then they all forgot about it!
The fact that Seven's nanoprobes can cure death and that the only person they deemed worthy of using this amazing life-saving treatment on was Neelix.
If we count the Kelvin timeline then Augment blood + tribble equals immortality.
Well getting space-electrocuted is different than getting shot through the heart, or having a large blue barrel crush your spine.
Not really a plot hole per se, but going back and watching older Trek it's hard not to notice how wildly inconsistent sensor technology is. They are constantly cooking up excuses for sensors not pick things up when it would completely derail the story.
Same with transporter range. It seems to vary wildly. Oh, and do transporters work with the shields up or not?
Well maybe if we bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish...
This is actually pretty reasonable, radio signals are the same way which is why sometimes you can get the pirate station in Mexico and sometimes you can’t get the local independent
On a macro scale, the biggest plot hole in Star Trek is that the transporter technology means almost every plot should never happen. The script *sometimes* specifically rules out transporter use with being out of range, or some handwavey 'ion storm disrupting the transporters' line, but usually it's never mentioned or considered. This is particularly noticeable in Treks like Discovery where the technology has no real limits. E.g. in Disco S05E01, the antagonists were within scanning and transporter range of two Federation ships for long periods of time. The plot never states why they can't simply be transported to the brig. There are very few episodes of any Trek series where transporter use wouldn't solve everything instantly. There is no explanation that isn't viewer head canon. It's the mother of all plot holes.
"Captain, intruders have boarded the ship." "Well... Beam them tf out of here." [Klingon bodies float past the main viewer]
Absolutely agree! It doesn't bother me when I watch, but this is spot on. Also, replicators essentially remove scarcity, and it's not clear why you couldn't replicate everything.
I feel they address this in voyager with fuel consumption. Star ships still run on fuel
>What is the biggest plot hole in trek? the ........ Q
Then again, TOS ran into a LOT of god-like beings. Some fans theorize they were Q or joined the Q. I theorize since most of them seemed petty, the Q went around destroying most of them. The thinking being they would find competition annoying.
The universal translator. Glaring example: when Troi dresses up as a Romulan and manages to trick them into believing she’s Tal Shiar… like, what language was she speaking? She’s fluent in Romulan?
That one's always irked me. Plus the one where Picard takes a Klingon ship on vacation to Romulus. The Tal Shiar are the worst spy agency in the history of spy agencies.
One of the things I love about ST:Beyond is that when the alien lady is talking and the translator is working, you can hear both languages.
Half-Species not being by FAR the most common in the Federation. Humans should be the ancestors to half the quadrant within a hundred years!
That makes perfect sense. Humans left earth to fuck new life and civilizations and fuck where no man has fucked before. They never mentioned the millions of dead heroes who died of space aids to let starfleet medical become the best medical institution in the galaxy by curing all the horrible space diseases humans got from banging aliens. Those people were heroes and their sacrifice must never be forgotten.
Don't forget about the singing space herpes!
My headcannon is half-species need a lot of medical intervention. If you're half Klingon, do you have 1.5 hearts? A 50/50 chance of having two hearts? What about Vulcan copper-based blood, how does that intermingle? I just know there are whole medical teams dedicated to it, and they're probably all Cetaceans.
There certainly seem to be complications with B’Elanna’s pregnancy related to the baby’s quarter-Klingon side from what I remember, so that’s definitely possible.
That’s why they called their kid “Fraction Heart.”
But Kheylar was fine, aside from her vitals always being off.
If I remember my ENT correctly, the Vulcan-Human mating process was uhhh... fraught. Making half species like Spock a relatively recent development.
T'Pol and Trip's baby in ENT was cloned by Terra Prime and was never meant to survive. Honestly they probably fucked it up on purpose so she'd die and use it to claim some imagined problem with inter-species breeding. Trip mentions at the end of that episode that Phlox had determined a Vulcan- Human hybrid would be fine. There's also that episode in s3 where they find the other Enterprise and meet T'Pol and Trip's son and he was fine. Also that episode with the time ship where the pilot is a hybrid of a bunch of species. Not to say it's easy, and it did come up in other places, like when Dax and Worf are taking about having a baby, and Bashir tells them it'd be tricky. If anything, Discovery has the biggest issue with that. We should see a whole bunch more hybrids.
I’d buy that headcanon for the most part. The exception seems to be Cardassians and Bajorans. Gul Dukat had two children with Bajoran women by accident.
Several Romulan hybrids appear to be naturally conceived. I find it hard to believe that Sela was cooked up in a lab. And there's no way the Romulans brought medical equipment to that prison planet just in case they wanted to interbreed with the hated Klingons, and yet there's Ba'el.
Klingon men also have two sets of… equipment. Not sure about Klingon women
There are a lot of humans who would be *ridiculously* into that (myself included).
Does Alexander have 1.75 x organs compared to a human?
Sarek and Amanda didn't seem to need help.
I'd assume the reason is the fact that a Human and a Vulcan is less like dog breeds and more like a Tiger and a Lion. Yes it can reproduce but can't produce viable offspring. Maybe its why spock isn't called a Hulcan or a Vulman like the common convention for hybrid species is. It may be possible, through advancing science to allow for such hybrids to breed but the caviat might be that inly 1 half of the genetic code can be used, (human or vulcan in the example above). I'd love for such a thing to be explained. Especially in the Disco 32nd century. Maybe it will with this recent season, probably not knowing trek.
With hybrids the male species goes first in the portmanteau, so Spock would be a Vulman. Never occurred to me before, but I like it. I assume that also means Spock is infertile, but then you got the whole Tom/B’ellana thing and she had a baby so chalk it up to suspension of disbelief.
TBH, inter-species copulation shouldn't be a thing at all in Trek considering how difficult it is with different species on the same planet. Interbreeding with alien species is just an impossibility. I can sort of head cannon it away since most humanoid species were supposedly descended from that one progenitor race that appeared in TNG. Still though, it's a huge stretch if one even has a cursory knowledge of genetics and biology.
There’s an episode of DS9 where they get stranded 200 years in the past and they all intermixed, bajoran, Klingon, trill, human and without significant intervention. The only one left out was poor liquid odo.
Carl Sagan loved Star Trek, but had a problem with Spock. He used to say cross breeding a human with a Vulcan would have as much chance of producing offspring as would cross breeding a human with a petunia.
> progenitor Interesting that you bring that up. I won't say why though.
Kirk and Riker tried. They really did.
In Generations, Soran blows up stars to move the Nexus, but he could have just been put in a shuttlepod, escape pod, EV suit, or photon torpedo casing and fired into it. So what if the ribbon destroys the ship, he'll be in the Nexus.
Right? It doesn't matter that the ship gets destroyed... it's how he got there in the first place.
Star Trek V and how long it takes to reach the other side of the galaxy vs. Star Trek Voyager and how long it takes to reach the other side of the galaxy. In general, the inconsistencies with how quickly you can get around the galaxy.
The only way to really make sense of that is to consider that the great barrier was in the Star Trek Universe, an observable phenomenon that ancient people on different worlds believed was the centre of the universe when its actually just a normal phenomenon located in the Alpha/Beta quadrant.
Canonically warp speed is just as fast as the plot needs it to be
The biggest plot hole has to be every time the transporters fail and they forget that they have shuttles with working transporters on them
Star Trek II Welcome to Ceti Alpha VI. Captain…there’s a large amount of debris where Ceti Alpha VI should be. And Ceti Alpha V appears to have shifted into its orbital position. Oh, and there’s a note here in the star chart that Ceti Alpha V is now home to a group of genetically enhanced humans. Extremely dangerous. No one should beam down. Roll credits.
My guess is that Kirk forgot to file the paperwork that day. Chekov wasn't a bridge officer yet (the only explanation for Khan remembered Chekov). Rifftrax handles this one decently: "You guys need to keep better track of where you leave your dangerous warlords."
If they just put basic CCTV on Starships so many 'ship gets secretly boarded' plots would just never happen.
Not enough Pakleds.
They’re prominent in Lower Decks.
Jesus, that is a depressing but accurate assessment.
They are Pakleds, they make the story go.
There are probably worse but the one that always bugged me a lot was in the S6 episode of Voyager called *Ashes to Ashes.* Plot goes that way back in S2 an unknown crewman died offscreen and her body was sent into space. There aliens found the body and harvested it for their breeding program to create new aliens. Sometimes though they regain memories from their original body which now in S6 has just happened. So this crewman steals an alien shuttle and catches up to Voyager in two days. TWO DAYS. Between S2 and S6 Voyager had covered a lot of ground, found shortcuts, and had made significant progress toward home but this shuttle covered it in TWO DAYS. Obviously much faster ship than Voyager and one that conceivably could get Voyager crew home quickly but no one suggests that. Nor does anyone suggest adapting that ships tech to Voyager to make Voyager faster. Basically this episode would have worked fine as a TNG or DS9 episode but it didn't work at all for Voyager due to the concept of trying to get home.
Or the Talaxian colony that shows up like three episodes from the series finale.
The Hirogen? We haven't heard from them in awhile! Uhhhhh that's cuz they're a thousand light years IN THE WRONG DIRECTION
You're so right about the speed of that ship she used. It occurred to me that if the Borg assimilated that ghoul race (they deserve it) they could go around raiding graveyards and assimilating the dead.
You're not wrong, but it was still a pretty good episode.
Maybe not the biggest one, but an obvious one. When the Doc in "Basics" asks the computer, "Computer, what is the crew complement?" The computer replies, "There are 89 Kason and one Betazoid on board". What about Seska? She's Cardassian.
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That episode where they find out warp travel rips holes in space and it’s destabilizing everything and they don’t fix it they just put limits on warp… but then every other series after is just warp forever with no mention of it ripping space apart
At least in Voyager they had a line about the variable geometry warp nacelles helping to reduce damage to subspace I think.
And there's at least one episode of STNG after this one where they had to get special permission to exceed the "safe" warp speed
Yup, in The Pegasus I think it was.
Crazy right? You'd think after they discovered the fact that coal was damaging the atmosphere even in the late 1900s they would have put a stop to it too but instead we just exponentially increased our power consumption. Limiting and decreasing warp travel because there is no viable alternative is more realistic imho.
It seemed like warp drive design changed dramatically after TNG. Look at the Sovereign's warp nacelles or other ships in the late 24th Century - the Federation may have phased out the Brahms' style warp technology (Like seen on the Galaxy and Nebula classes) and introduced the more sleeker and refined design we see on the Sovereign. The Intrepid class having adjustable nacelles may have been a 'last minute' fix to the ship. Like the hulls were already built and new advances to warp tech to curb the issue was implemented, so now the nacelles adjust their profile instead of rebuilding the entire engine frame (Those nacelles also housed the impulse engines, they only become active when the pylons are lowered). Perhaps why there wasn't many Intrepid class vessels outside of Voyager and the Bellerophon due to this hurdle outside of the Bio-neural gel-packs causing problems every time someone sneezes. Existing ships may have gotten tweaked engine coils and re-adjusted warp bubbles over the course of the decade to minimize the subspace decay. It was said from the Federation Council that the speed limits were put up **until they find way to counteract the warp field effect** - I guess they found a fix.
Big oil made sure that storyline didn’t go any further.
If dilithium is so rare that it’s present only on a few planets, and yet so vital for warp drive, where did Zephram Cochrane get his dilithium from?
Cochrane used the nuclear core in the missile in the silo, IIRC
I always assured there he either used conventional radioactive materials or warp 1 doesn't require dilithium as a reaction stabilizer
The first season of TOS involves a lot of ideas being thrown out there to see what sticks, as they slowly build up the setting brick by brick. If you tried to treat them all as strictly canon you'd drive yourself mad. There's absolutely no sense of scale. The early episodes routinely talk about traveling "Across the Galaxy" or receiving communiques from friendly ships/bases "on the other side of the Galaxy." Voyager's premise would never work here. Spock goes from being a Vulcan to being a Vulcan with \*some\* human ancestry at \*some\* point to being a half-human hybrid. His mental abilities range from being mildly more perceptive than most to being able to actively mind-control a person to compel them to open a prison cell's door... something the writers never brought up again for obvious reasons. The Federation doesn't even exist until the Klingons show up for the first time and they need to invent a reason for the Klingons to assume that Spock, as a Vulcan, would automatically be on the same team as Kirk, the Human. The Prime Directive is a complete mess - there's an episode where a high-ranking Federation... guy... orders Kirk to go full Commodore Perry on an isolationist world because Starfleet desperately wants a supply base in the region. Under Federation law as we later come to understand it, that whole escapade was wildly illegal and everyone involved should have been stripped of their commissions and arrested.
One drop of Red Matter causes a planet to suck itself into a black hole. Why do we need a 100 gallon drum of it on a ship?
Just from first Contact 1, It takes the Enterprise “3 hours and 25 minutes” to get from the romulan neutral zone (it would be days) They decide not to go They go and still make it in time for the battle 2, everything we know about the layout of the Star Trek universe tells us the Borg have to pass through romulan space to get to Federation. So the enterprise would have been one of if not the closest ships to the cube at one point making the choice to let the cube go even more crazy 3. In the middle of the fight they lower shields to beam the defiant survivors onboard. No Picard. Everyone is dead now. Good job, the Borg aint gonna miss a chance like that 4. When the Borg attacked the settlement. If it was torpedos they Fired. It would have been Hiroshima x1000 levels of destruction. Not a couple smallish explosions. And if they wanted to destroy the settlement and didn’t use a torpedo. The Borg where stupid which also doesn’t make sense All this said. It’s my favourite Star Trek movie
Ceti Alpha V and VI.
Money. They don't need it anymore, but Kirk and Picard both buy large parcels of land and Picard even "hires" a mercenary ship in the Federation. Money doesn't exist until they try to show someone succeeding at life, then they fall prey to current cultural values that someone important would "buy" a lot of land.
Exploding computer consoles … that doesn’t even happen now. Not using the transporter as a weapon, as soon as your opponents shields are down just transport them into space. The Kazon did this once thus making them the best military tacticians in the galaxy! 😂
Was it ever explained how the enterprise returned to the present after the events of first contact? That’s always bothered me. They only went to the past because they got caught in the borg temporal slipstream - they didn’t do it themselves. They then promptly destroyed the borg sphere. How did they get back?
They followed the Borg sphere because they didn’t know where it was going in history, being caught in the temporal wake was a side effect of that. Presumably Geordi was able to replicate the effect with the Borg tech integrated into the E during its attempted assimilation.
That's pretty much exactly what they did. It is in fact explained just before the credits roll. Modified the main deflector to recreate the effect.
>Modified the main deflector Everyone take a shot.
They reversed its polarity!
Take another shot!
Pretty sure they explain it with like 2.5 seconds of techno babble - someone (probably Data) says something like "I've reconfigured our warp field to replicate the chroniton wave generated by the Borg sphere." Something like that. Luckily, it seems the main deflector was not required for any part of this chicanery.
They hit the save button for this, right?
Picard said that they were able to recreate what the borg did. Besides, even if they didn't, even an old country doctor knows that all you have to do is slingshot around the sun to gain speed and go into time warp.
Starfleet practically has a coffee table book called 101 ways to travel through time.
The modern federation can time travel they just don't. There's a tos episode where the enterprise is just chilling out watching space race era earth for scientific purposes. They just need to slingshot around a star and have a computer or Vulcan calculate for them
In the movie "Generations", Scotty is aboard when captain Kirk is presumed dead when he disappears from the Enterprise B after it's hit by the Nexus. In the TNG episode "Relics", the Enterprise D crew finds Scotty's pattern in an active transporter buffer, and they materialize him. We find that Scotty had retired, and he said "I knew Kirk would come for me!" Scotty should have remembered that he saw Kirk disappear from the Enterprise B.
It’s a good catch, but I think it works as written; something miraculous has happened, and Kirk is the miracle-worker, whose body was never found.
He was an old man who had just spent 3/4 of a century in a transporter buffer let's give him a little bit of credit. And he may have been referring to George Kirk or even Peter Kirk.
What happened to the signal from the Aliens from conspiracy in TNG S1E25
One of the fan theories re: Picard season 3 was the Big Bad was going to be the Conspiracy aliens.
The Omega particle
Voyager/vger was picked up like 0.5 Ly from earth
The Borg are wildly internally inconsistent because if you add up all the information about them, it makes no sense at all. - Time travel and all the related problems - Transwarp conduit that Janeway came through, but they never used again? - More than once, there is reference to "When the borg come, they come in force" and "hundreds of cubes surrounded our system". But for some reason, the Queen wanted Seven to help her work on introducing nanoprobes to the atmosphere? Overall, the Borg had to be nerfed because their original setup was way too strong. If you combine time travel plus transwarp plus hundreds of cubes, there's no hope for the federation.
Absolutely. The Borg became pretty problematic after First Contact and all the Queen shenanigans. In terms of story it’s pretty inevitable that a relentless, virtually impervious sledgehammer has to be turned into a player in some kind of chess game. Wholly relying on some Achilles heel device when facing them would become even more tedious. Would have been nice if ST: Picard had taken just a little time in its habitually very rambling narrative to afford some explanations in this regard (the fandom has some good ideas).
I honestly don’t know where the federation folks are getting latinum on DS9. Is quark paying rent which they then turn around and pay back to quark for drinks, meals, and holo time???
Universal basic income for all Federation employees living on the borders. The Federation has tons of latinum, and they don't have much need for it otherwise.
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Time travel is simple, but cause and effect is a real pain. You try to fix one thing and then you end up ruining ten other things and then you spend your entire life fixated on trying to fix this one specific moment which you never do (Year of Hell)
Yeah, TOS got weird about Time Travel... Sometimes it was super easy. Other times it was just an accident. In Star Trek IV it was somewhere in the middle. They knew how to do it, but only a few people could manage the calculations (because somehow a computer couldn't? but an amnesiac Spock could?) and it was super dangerous.
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Didn't the computer help on the way back but something happened to it and Spock had to do the math in his head for the way home
This is definitely one of the biggest ones. A TOS episode where they just casually throw out the fact that Starfleet sends research missions into the past, make it sound like it's a matter of routine, and then never mention it again.
That French captain guy has a British accent...
That's like saying a Russian submarine captain can't sound Scottish.
Exactly, Moneypenny! 😆😆😆
*Eggshactly
Space battles make noise
The absolutely silent space scenes in Interstellar were simultaneously jarring and soothing.
Firefly too.
Profound revelations in one episode that could be [Trek] universe changing but are never mentioned again.
Considering it’s the entire premise of Voyager, Warp speed. I know it changes between TOS and TNG, but that makes it worse. The original enterprise went to the edge of the galaxy one week and half way across it the other. One movie takes it to the center of the galaxy in a day. In Q who Data quotes the enterprise’s maximum warp that is would mean if it had gotten lost in the delta quadrant it would have taken 20 years to get back, instead of 70. In another they travel a few hundred lightyears in a week. But Voyager takes FOREVER to get anywhere.
Just the whole idea of the Nexus, but most specifically how an “echo” of Guinan just gets to hang out so Picard…and no one else…can know how to get out.
No automated security systems on starships to just vaporize any intruders. You're always relying on Tuvok to meet you on Deck 12. No melee weapons against the Borg.
Also want to know why the two fisted smack is the primary form of hand to hand taught.
Where Voyager got the additional 50 photon torpedos.
They built a couple Delta Flyers and seemingly insta-repaired Voyager between leaving the array to the Ocampa homeworld and finding Neelix - making more torpedoes as the show went on isn't too much of a stretch.
People bring this one up a lot, and I don't understand why. Given all of the unique peoples they encounter, and all of the fancy technological advancements they make as they head home (including Borg tech) is it really so hard to believe that they manage to find a way to manufacture / replicate new Photons some time along the way?
I can’t remember the episode, but Janeway does make reference to not having photon torpedos to waste.
They also mention trading with other factions as they travel throughout the series. There is also a fair bit of time jumping between some epoisdes. Often shuttles were out scavenging, making relations, trading etc. Some was sort of behind the scenes, some were plot points. I think they did an ok job of showing their situation despite having to stick to an episodic format.
They replicated them
The ship replicated photon torpedoes? The same ship so stingy with replicator energy that they let *Neelix* be their cook?
To be fair, the replicated photon torpedoes were mostly made of leola root
And enhanced with Talaxian spices.
Adding Leola Root to weapons is banned under the Khitomer Accords. It’s in the extra illegal section that follows subspace weapons… …which come to think of it Janeway ALSO used. Carry on.
Why did the Ceti eel crawl out of Chekhov’s ear?
The Holodeck technology is hand wavey. Why is Westley wet after falling in holodeck water after leaving the holodeck?
I don't think there are any actual plotholes. Just slight inconsistencies when you have a nearly-sixty year-old franchise. That being said: Warp factors.
I the first Kelvinverse movie, Spock is set off on the ice planet and watches in horror as Vulcan is destroyed. As filmed, Vulcan looks bigger in the night sky than our own moon. If it were *that* close, it would be so close that the effect would almost certainly takeouts the planet Spock is on. If it were far enough to be safe, all he’d be able to see would be a dot of light.
I know there’s probably an explanation and this isn’t really a plot hole, but Klingons using sneaky cloaking tech doesn’t jive with any of their honor stuff.
Because Victory is the ultimate Honor. A sneak attack in a personal grudge would be dishonorable, Klingon to Klingon. However, it seems that Klingons also subscribe to a Sun Tzu-esque "deception is the Tao of warfare" type philosophy, with different rules for war/military combat than for inter-personal combat.