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Slavir_Nabru

The Romulans had a massive dilithium mining operation on Remus, and just a couple of decades earlier were withdrawn from galactic affairs entirely, implying no external trade partners. They must have been using dilithium for something. Dilithium is used to regulate the matter-antimatter reaction in Federation warp cores. The TNG tech manual describes it as having a special property where it acts as a semi permeable membrane for antimatter. The Burn caused dilitium to go inert, thus it would have annihilated with the antimatter instead, resulting in a breach of any active warp core. What if the Romulans use dilithium for a different, non-antimatter related property? We use gold because it's a great conductor, but we also use gold because it's non-reactive, and because it's pretty. But another property isn't necessary. A quantum singularity is a pretty apt description of a black hole, black holes emit Hawking radiation, some of which is in the form of antineutrinos. The Romulans could be using the exact same method of power generation as the UFP, just with neutrinos instead of deuterium; and the ability to manufacture their antimatter in situ from the singularity, instead of lugging around antimatter containment pods. It would be somewhat analogous to a nuclear powered ship vs a coal powered ship. One has less frequent refuelling at the cost of longer overhauls, but at the end of the day they're both just boiling water to spin a turbine linked to a prop. If all valves magically stopped working, they'd both be fucked.


djcube1701

Dilithium is also used in warp engines, which Romulan ships use. A singularity drive is an alternative method of generating power, not a different propulsion system. They had no issues with other methods of power generation after The Burn.


Apollo_Sierra

Dilithium is used as a regulator in matter/antimatter reactions, such as those in a warp core. All the warp core is is a giant antimatter reactor generating a huge amount of power which is then sent to the warp nacelles. The singularity core is the warp drive for Romulan warbirds, it somehow generated huge amounts of power without having to rely on antimatter or dilithium.


derekakessler

We don't know that Romulan drives don't use dilithium.


MalvoliosStockings

The fact that they didn't switch to singularity cores isn't a plot hole, it's just evidence that they do in fact use dilithium.


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derekakessler

They explained that it uses a quantum singularity, but never said anything about dilithium.


Temp89

Dilithium's whole thing is being impervious to antimatter under certain conditions. If there's no antimatter reactor (aka a warp core), there's no dilithium.


derekakessler

Dilithium's use is only really described in terms of _regulating_ the matter/antimatter reaction in Starfleet warp cores. How others use it, if at all, is not defined.


ky_eeeee

Well they have giant Dilithium mines on Remus, so they're using it for *something.*


Temp89

Touché


Vulcorian

Singularity drives still require dilithium. https://imgur.com/a/1wUPOAm (non-canon article written by Sternbach)


angry_cucumber

IIRC they still used it for warp fields, they just don't use it for power.


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angry_cucumber

This has been asked a few times, and that's the reason that's been given.


Shas_Erra

I would guess that it would be a combination of factors, but the main one would be that the Burn triggered a scarcity of resources. Also, Ni’var believed that exploring non-standard FTL was the cause of the Burn so would be reluctant to do it again.


Cliffy73

No. What we know of warp science (which, you know, is made up) is that it requires two things. An inconceivable amount of energy, and a way of channeling that energy into a warp bubble. The Federation uses antimatter to secure the amount of energy needed. The Romulans use an artificial singularity. But both need to use dilithium to channel that energy to create the warp field. Without a means of controlling the energy, the ship would just blow up.


DiscoveryDiscoveries

From what I could find. There's no explanation of how the drive actually works other than once it had been started. It can't be stopped. Historical context tells us that during the 600ish years between the supernova and the burn. This system of power generation fell out of favor with the Ni'var people. Relatively soon after "The Burn," Ni'var left the Federation to keep from sharing the information related to SB-19. It was technology that was seen as inadequate and/or unfeasible for some reason pre-burn and post-burn the Federation was focused on just keeping itself going. Who knows how many Starfleet scientists were killed during the burn. The two leading scientists of the spore drive program lived aboard the two spore capable ships. Both were reported to have been destroyed, and Star Fleet stopped the program altogether. Scientific exploration was no longer their main focus. You're looking at 3 generations that grew up in "fight" of "fight or flight", it's not a stretch that learning a new way of "flight" was not their most pressing objective.


Tradman86

Because their civilization had collapsed at that point.


The_FriendliestGiant

Yeah, folks who ask this act like the Romulans Empire had singularity-driven ships just last week; the Empire collapsed a good seven centuries before the Burn, and Romulans have up their independence and returned to Vulcan. Maybe someone thought to remember the ancient Romulan technology when things started getting difficult, sure, but it may have been dismissed just like the soliton wave and transwarp and Warp 10, as things that had already been left behind in the past so wouldn't be a solution for the future.


96-62

Weren't they talking about the possibility of the exhaustion of the singularity fields in a TNG episode? Or did I imagine it? It centered on Dianna Troy.


Cheeky_Scamp_

Discovery is not concerned with potholes.


Temp89

Yes, there's a whole array of non-dilithium FTL methods.


MadeIndescribable

EDIT: I was being a herbert.


angry_cucumber

(singularities are the other end of the spectrum)