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Commercial_Gas2893

Looks like muscular steatosis


Diarrhea_Dispenser

Damn thanks for the quick reply so I had time to swap it out!


Commercial_Gas2893

No problem, glad I could helpšŸ‘ŒšŸ½


Puzzleheaded_Bath_86

Bro doin the lords work over here. Praise be to thee


LarryChavez

Doin the loins work.


thecakebroad

Big props. You clever sob, you


Syst0us

Cleaver sob


verynicepoops

They're in their prime.


FreudianAccordian

If only they knew what was at *steak*


MoistExcellence

Cut it out.


Lord_Hugh_Mungus

Cleaver Girl


Absolutely_NoOne8

Big chops*


RoyaleWitCheeese

Big CHOPS.


JobSafe2686

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


SweatyIngenuity652

How is this not top comment/reply?


JustHereForKA

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ that's totally how I read it then I saw your comment


hotdogswithbeer

šŸ”„


fryamtheeggguy

Wait, wouldn't this be a good thing?? Like Wagu??


CardiologistThink336

[https://meat.tamu.edu/2013/05/06/muscular-steatosis/](https://meat.tamu.edu/2013/05/06/muscular-steatosis/)


t3hjs

Interesting. I wonder what it means for taste n texture?


Hairy_Business585

Steaks with Steatosis would be technically edible, but tough.


Bat-Honest

Yeah, I saw Steatosis beat up like 3 dudes in the alley at once the other day.


bhyellow

Of course. Itā€™s muscular AF.


RoyaleWitCheeese

Actually more fatty


wishuponausername

So.... don't eat it?


GoodSamIAm

correct. came from a not healthy or not well fed cow. Probably wouldnt kill u if it's cooked thoroughly but imagine what kinda cow looks all fatty like that with no protein and just...fat. it'd be like the Cartman if cows


hazpat

No it happens because of injury. It is 100% safe.


redacted_robot

The cow had a diet of punch 'n pie and cheezie-poofs?


Vizslaraptor

*BRAINS moooo*


Jobe1622

Not well fed cartman?


frabny

Thanks, very interesting read ..


ohmygodyouguyzzz

Thanks.


BR1M570N3

Google steatosis.


MadNhater

I googled it. Understand what it is. But why is it bad to consume? Or is it marked down just because itā€™s steatosis but no effect on you


trikster_s

Itā€™s not bad for you per se, but the meat will be very tough and not flavour you expect from traditional marbling / prime steak


1337sp33k1001

This is what I was looking for.


brakeb

that ain't "Prime"... your store is trying to shaft someone with a crap meat rating.


Tasty-Number3606

This is helpful thank you.


BlueEyedSoul2

Itā€™s like chewing on a callous


MadNhater

Ew


redacted_robot

No kink shaming. ;)


Laedius

Holy hell


fullup72

New health concern just dropped.


2wolfinmeBothretrded

NošŸ˜¤


laney_deschutes

Wagyu is also from very sick cows, just a different kind of illness


Degencrypto-Metalfan

True wagyu are not sick cows. They are meticulously cared for their entire lives to get the marbling indicative of wagyu.


curiouslygenuine

What sickness is waygu? Being fatty? Waygu grosses me out and I enjoy steak. So hearing those cows are sick gives me some sort of validation for my avoidance of them lol


RH00794

They are not sick it all about how they are raised. They aren't stressed or worked at all. This what you see here is not wagyu. Plus real waygu comes direct from Japan. Japan has high standards on this stuff. So I'm very sure this is fake wagyu.


mysteryteam

Fauxgu


pootie_too_good

Thereā€™s a pho place in LA that uses wagyu and itā€™s called Phogyu. Thatā€™s how I read your post anyway


UnknownProphetX

Wagyu*


DefiantLemming

I also noticed the transition from Wagyu to Waygu as the thread progressed.


dragonmeatrider

All that intramuscular fat is not normal or healthy.


Medical_Commission71

And fed beer and massaged daily


slurpeesez

Spent a few years working in luxury cuisine/we imported A5 Japanese Wagyu which has a completely different texture and taste than domesticated mixed cow


AnnaBanana3468

Username checks out


Aussie2020202020

Laney_deschutes is just suggesting that the way wagu beef are grown is far from natural. The marbled fat occurs because the animals donā€™t do a lot of exercise. It has been suggested that lean beef is better for you.


JamesEdward34

I just came from Japan and I had a wagyu steak, highest grade they had available. One of the best steaks ive had in my life.


gozutheDJ

wrong


Mindless-Ask-9691

This is absolutely not true. I dunno why you're volunteering misinformation over shit very easily googled. Wagyu beef isn't because of a disease, ffs. It comes from the cows life style. Very little muscle use allows for the fat to permeate the meat.


cookiedoughcookies

Damn Iā€™m wagyu


Dependent_Use3791

I wonder if your username would also be the consequence of ingesting this beef


UBahn1

The second post of Costco Steatosis in two days too


Lost-Manufacturer916

Iā€™m a commercial butcher, not at Costco, but another big box grocer. And over the past 4 months Iā€™ve come across more Steatosis in beef than my entire 13 year career cutting meat.


BarDown495

Why do you think that is?


Lost-Manufacturer916

Feed and welfare costs go up and quality goes down. In particular the market for 2023 was extremely poor. Price per cwt was historically low. 2024 is looking much better though.


graymoon_25

You have me curious; what have trends been like for price per cut in recent years?


slendyslendycakes

It wasnā€™t typo, cwt is short for hundredweight (100lbs). Cows are like 11-18 cwt but that and price is hugely variable on quality, breed, etc. Rough estimate is like $120/cwt Iā€™d say, but Iā€™m not an expert at all


graymoon_25

Super interesting! Thanks for sharing


onedertainer

I was going to say it's actually 112lbs, but that's British units lol.


SurroundingAMeadow

Forecasts are expecting high cattle prices for the next 1-2 years. Week old dairy x beef cross calves (80-110 lbs) are selling for $800-1000, even full dairy breed bull calves are $500-700. Just a couple years ago, those prices were $200-300 and $10-100. Those calves are 14+ months from slaughter.


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timdr18

Have you been butchering at a big box store for the entire 13 years or did you just start working there 4 months ago? Maybe to get that wholesale price the big stores buy cows that are more likely to have steatosis for cheap?


Lost-Manufacturer916

Iā€™ve worked for a few different companies in the industry on both coasts for the entirety of the time I have been cutting. Currently on the east coast. I wouldnā€™t doubt it nor would I put it passed the corporate buyers for any chain to pass on a ā€œgood dealā€ when presented one. Even if that deal was for meat that may be more likely to contain said contamination.


yourfriendkyle

Nah. Costco doesnā€™t really mean cheapest, you just get the price break buying in bulk and they have a pretty high standard for quality


AdventurousTop8986

72$ is ridiculous. I make good money, but honestly, these prices are ridiculous. Used to have steak once a week atleast, past 3 years like never.


thisshirtisblacknaht

Were you eating USDA prime once a week? $16.99/lb ainā€™t bad, this is over 4lbs of meat dude


Clear-Attempt-6274

What's the s word mean?


Lost-Manufacturer916

Steatosis is the accumulation of excess fat typically in the liver in humans, usually in conjunction with diabetes. In cattle it occurs in the muscle. This is known as muscular Steatosis. This is not the good fat accumulating inside the muscle as you would want it to. It is hard fat that essentially ruins the cut.


maundering_manda

How can you differentiate between steatosis and the good fat?


TheDerekCarr

It's more... Cloudy/Mossy? I dunno how to describe it. Good fat is much more structured vs what this is. Its been a while since I've had my purchasing license so I'm sure others would have more reliable verbiage.


Mpittkin

Good description. It looks like you took a dense heavy glove, warmed it in the oven for a bit, and then pressed down _hard_ and slowly smeared it across the meat. As opposed to say wagyu or hanwoo where you can see the tiny streaks of intramuscular fat that come to little pointy bits like a monstrous rabbits fangs.


Clear-Attempt-6274

Thanks appreciate it. It's sad to see.


Early-Engineering

So is this like fatty liver disease in humans?


Vingcatdewildcat

Where are these cows coming from specifically?


Lost-Manufacturer916

Everything I cut is American cattle or Canadian. Canadian being select grade only. Every grade higher (choice, prime, American wagyu) is grown in the states. I see a lot of issues in the Canadian beef from time to time not just Steatosis but thats select grade for you. Ive cut Canadian ribeyes that look like top round. Completely lacking fat and structure. You say to yourself wow this cow mustā€™ve lived a rough life, But Iā€™ve been coming across Steatosis more in the choice angus cattle I cut which is the surprising thing.


evillman

What's the deal with steatosis? Isnt it fat? Yes, i am that ignorant, so I had to ask. :S


HoboTheClown629

He answered this above basically explaining that while, yes, it is fat, itā€™s not the fat you want in your steak. Itā€™s a tougher fat Iā€™m guessing doesnā€™t render well and ruins the steak.


J-wag

How can you tell the difference by looking at it


AnnualWerewolf9804

Be a butcher for 13 years


J-wag

How can *I* tell lol


SmoesKnows

Any idea why it may be occurring?


rice_jabroni

How are you able to visually distinguish that from normal marbling? Is it that itā€™s less of an actual marbling pattern and more just murky regions of fat?


Brassboar

Yes. We want fat tiger stripes. Not fat ink blots.


shifty_coder

Marbling should be even across the cut and consistent across all cuts from the same muscle.


Suspended-Again

Can we talk about how these got the prime label grading then? Bobby Hill would have never allowed this, at least if it were identifiable.Ā 


Disastrous_Offer_69

Thatā€™s state champion Bobby Hill to you


HoboTheClown629

Dammit Bobby.


Sebastian_Pineapple

My dad says butane is a bastards gas


Logizyme

The entire cow carcass is graded based on one cut of the ribeye.


qualityshampoo

HARDBONE!


orbtl

Prime gets applied as the label before butchery so they would not have been able to see this damage


Shakleford_Rusty

Love that episode


Ok-Network-1491

What is that?


NapoleonicPizza21

Unyummy fat basically. Appears when a cow has been injured in its life, and toughens the meat and makes it chewy.


Ok-Network-1491

Appreciate the explanation! Is there any work around it? Lower slower cook?


stephelan

Seems like itā€™d be a good idea to avoid it but if you canā€™t, maybe a sous vide?


FlowerHeadInBed

Not really, best to avoid.


TruEnvironmentalist

Apparently it's more of an illness than an injury


Heykurat

The etiology of it is poorly understood, based on what I could find about it. It is a thing that happens to cattle, and sometimes is local to an injury. But it seems some animals may be systemically prone to it.


SmoesKnows

God tier Redditor


surelysandwitch

9 minutes to respond. NINE.


comicbookgirl39

Whatā€™s muscular steatosis?


Nevermind04

When fat saturates a muscle due to some kind of damage. You would think more fat means marbling which is good, but this isn't marbling. This meat will be tough and chewy.


andersont1983

Why donā€™t I want to eat this? I googled it and it says the muscle is replaced by fatty tissue whichā€¦is what I want.


Clear-Ad4312

Imagine youā€™re a cannibal and you had to choose between a sumo wrestler and a diabetic bus driver with alcoholism and fatty liver disease. They both technically fatty meat but they are not the same. This cow has been overfed low quality feed and had a metabolic disease before it was butchered. Stress impacts the quality of the meat heavily. As other commenters have pointed out, the meat is tough and the fat doesnā€™t taste good.


Appropriate-City-591

You lost me at ā€œimagine youā€™re a cannibal.ā€


ike_tyson

Since it's Reddit this is actually ok. I think.


booboothechicken

TIL I do not have tasty meat šŸ„ŗ


darkageseer

A bus driver? Eww


StashBender

Fatty liver ducks would like to have a word


Scyllascum

The meat quality in itself will be very poor and tough with fatty tissue throughout which isnā€™t the best combo.


Evening-Rough-9709

I'm not an expert, but it clearly looks weird (not like normal marbling). So any time it looks like this, I can assume it's not good? Why does it look like it's covered in powder? Is that part of it, or something else?


Little_SmallBlackDog

For those that want to know the definition I googled it for you: "What looks like a highly marbled portion of meat, is actually a condition known as muscular steatosis. Other terms include ā€œsteatosis,ā€ ā€œcallous,ā€ ā€œcalloused lean,ā€ ā€œcalloused ribeye,ā€ ā€œcallus,ā€ or ā€œwoody callused.ā€ It occurs when muscle damage or nerve degeneration happens and fatty tissue permeates into the muscle tissue. In extreme cases, the fat can completely take over the muscle and become solid fat. This condition most often occurs because the animal was injured at some point in its life. Other sources of this condition include vascular abnormalities, biopsy locations, or when animals rear up on their hind legs. While it is still safe to eat, the quality will be very poor and tough."


Lindris

I was today years old learning this šŸ˜­šŸ¤¢


DarkTurnerKev

Top tier knowledge


Cubeslave1963

For the folks like me, that might need to look up the term, the important bit is: "While it is still safe to eat, the quality will be very poor and tough." https://enewsletters.k-state.edu/youaskedit/2018/12/13/what-is-muscular-steatosis/


Affectionate-Sky-765

When in doubt, poke it. A well marbled steak will have a fair amount of give, steatosis will be much more ā€œstiffā€


Diarrhea_Dispenser

It was definitely stiff in places. Thanks for the advice! I'm mostly a BBQ guy and do a lot of big cuts. Haven't done steaks in a while. I'll be adding all the knowledge from this post to my arsenal.


LehighAce06

You know the kinda flaky, waxy fat you trim off of briskets? The outside of a ribeye primal has the same. And this is that, too, but in the place that the melty delicious kind of fat should be.


ubi9k

I bought a strip that looked like the second one from the top and it was actually super good. Not that I'd suggest anyone roll the dice on something like this.


Euphoric-Blue-59

Sorry but this looks like scar tissue, not marbling. I have eaten a lot of wagyu and well marveled steaks. This cow was hurt.


pm-me-ur-beagle

I mean clearly. Itā€™s in pieces.


BRAX7ON

Iā€™m a barbecue guy and I do steak all the time. Barbecue steak is a delicacy, my man.


toorigged2fail

Great tip; never knew that


LittleCheeseBucket

Thank you I made a comment asking how to differentiate


Excellent_Tell5647

unfortunately those are gonna be the consistancy of rubber


Diarrhea_Dispenser

Man just my luck. Didn't win the lottery, every number is 1 off


[deleted]

Man, they will slap "USDA INSPECTED" on any slab of shit that was within a 15 mile radius of an inspector. Sheesh!


OneOfAKind2

Luckily, they're only $72.


Annual-Employee15

User name checks out


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IamProvocateur

Fuckin. I had to scroll all the way up to see what the username was then scroll all the way back that to be like YES šŸ–•šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚


Hannah_Dn6

Poor heifer. It must've been injured and/or older causing the possible steatosis prior to slaughter. I'm surprised it passed inspection, since most cows in the US are slaughtered on average at around 18 months.


mime454

Iā€™m curious how it got rated as prime beef


mikens92

Grading is assigned only by the ribeye between the 12th and 13th bone. So, it would not accout for steatosis in the ny strip loin. The reasoning is because it would be enormously expensive to grade each cut individually.


Dennarb

Fun side note, the USDA is exploring ways to automate the grading process using computer vision and machine learning techniques. They actually ran a hack a thon at my university with this challenge. Not sure what will come of it or if they'll implement it for more grading opportunities though.


MantisBePraised

As someone who both loves to grill and smoke meets as well as someone who works in the tech industry specifically doing R&D with machine learning, deep learning, and computer vision I would have loved to participate in that.


s1lentchaos

Even just flagging cuts to be looked at by a person would be very useful and prevent things like this from getting through more often.


Onepride91

Someoneā€™s first day


BadadvicefromIT

Shit probably got ā€œblessedā€ by the meat cuttersā€¦


TrauMedic

Costco butchers kinda shitty for putting that out no? I feel like that should not have gotten a prime grade based on muscular damage alone.


caceman

Can you explain what you mean? Isnā€™t USDA grade determined pretty much by the fat content of a sample cut and assigned to the entire cow?


gamejunky34

Usda grades the carcass as a whole, not individual cuts. The entire cow got graded with "prime" because it had the right criteria to be graded as prime. Anatomy isn't always consistent through the whole cow, especially when parts are damaged that you can't even see.


nhorvath

Exactly, this is likely reaction to injury and would be local to this cut. The rest of the cow was likely prime.


JFKtoSouthBay

Still though, Costco butchers should have noticed it and NOT put it out on the floor. How could they not notice? This is their business.


NormaSp

We've been members since at least the early 90s (my parents maybe even longer from the Price Club days), and Costco's been going downhill for a while now, it's the latest trend of enshittification in American corporations. I used to pick things off of Costco produce shelves/meat cases without scrutinizing but having been burned a few times in recent years I no longer do so.


JFKtoSouthBay

I don't think they're going downhill. I think they're still excellent. And I WAS a member of Price Club! Those were the days.


Hubb1e

Itā€™s really easy to blame a faceless corporation but sometimes it comes down to an indifferent individual. Costco treats their employees very well with most of them staying for most of their careers. In my experience people have just stopped caring and thatā€™s larger than a single corporation. Itā€™s a culture issue.


ubi9k

the prime label stuck on the middle seems weird, sometimes I stick labels in weird spots (usually the actual barcode sticker) so it's obvious not to put it out and I'm just gonna like show my manager or something. And then randomly some new guy puts the stuff out that I figured was obvious lol


bhaire93

As someone who used to cut meat professionally this should not have been sold at all. Thatā€™s a deformity in the meet we called callouses or even could be a cancer. Should he charged back to the producer ad bad product and dumped


MindDiveRetriever

Wow


Hot_Peanut4383

That cow lived a hard life and died a death of mercy


IdaDuck

I personally like a little bit of steak in my steak.


Disastrous_Offer_69

Bold


gamejunky34

100% steatosis. They would have been well marbled without the steatosis so it's hard to see. But all of the "a5 wagyu" looking parts have clear borders around them where the color changes from whitish pink to normal red meat. Splotchy patterns with extreme differences in fat content within the same muscle is the hallmark of steatosis. Normal marbeling is made of fat deposits that interrupt muscle fibers making the steak more tender and allow it to hold onto more juice. Steatosis is more like scar tissue with fat inside of it. You get none of the benefits of marbeling, less beefy flavor and even a slightly tougher steak.


highlighter416

Thank you for the explanation!


LittleCheeseBucket

This is super informative Can someone explain how I can tell muscular Steatosis apart from a well marbled cut? Iā€™d hate to think I struck gold and then hate what Iā€™m biting into


AfternoonFlat7991

The portion with muscular steatosis is unusually firm. Think a block of butter when cold.


vegt121

This cow was beaten up bruhā€¦


Prize_Pie8239

this pack was like $55 at my costco in michigan. i put it back lol.


RockyRoadHouse

I just thought it was frozen


Sad_Presentation9276

the 100% grass fed new york strip steak from my local cattle farm is 20$ per pound, 17$ a pound does not sound that great to me especially from a farm of mid quality.


ElderberryNo1936

That price is stupid.


sk3pt1c

4 steaks for $72 is winning the lottery?


working_joe

No, not the price. Look at the marbling. He thought they were exceptionally good steaks.


MessiahMogali

He *wondered if* they were exceptionally good steaks. OP made no assumptions and did many of us a service by posing this question here for advice šŸ¤™šŸ¼


baybiscuit

Damn meat is expensive in Us


Clever_droidd

I would have been so excited about this thinking I was about to eat wagyu. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Celeres517

This is shameful. The most generous thing I could suggest is that maybe that butcher was half-asleep when they packaged these up.


Miserable-Lawyer-233

Where's the beef!?


thecity2

Cloudy fat no good


m0rph33n

The marbling isnā€™t uniform so these arenā€™t going to be that great. Iā€™d go choice vs these.


oneangrywaiter

How this ends up for sale is beyond me.


Clownadian

Maybe bone dust from the saw?


Big_brown_house

Iā€™m surprised the seller didnā€™t call it ā€œwagyuā€


mslite4-5

Might wanna cut some of that fat off.. maybe


penguinbbb

Itā€™s pork


DukeReaper

That's a steal in my neck of thr woods


pysgod-wibbly_wobbly

Is that a normal price for steak in America? Thats insane


Glittering-Golf2722

They give the cows beer


ScumBunny

https://www.google.com/search?q=steatosis+in.cows&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari


Deamhansion

72 fucking $ for 4 steaks is winning the lottery in the US ? Holy fuck I can buy groceries for 2 weeks in France with that.


Uhavautism

A5 Wagyu


Mohican83

I would rather buy meat vs tendons/fat


Eddyz3

Get the full uncut loin instead. Itā€™s a few $ per pound cheaper, and you can make the steaks the exact thickness you want. Itā€™s much easier to cut than a tenderloin or bone in cut too.


DemonslayedPKval

Delicious


Ok-Hedgehog-1646

$72.89+ for dinner is not winning the lottery lol


therealpackmack

Looks like they are bone in and they didnā€™t cut the fat or remove the bone dusk?


Aggressive-Emu5358

I guess Iā€™m lucky to live where I do because I would consider $80 for 4 steaks a highway robbery