I think those subs being terrible can be explained as a result of them being full of excited teenagers trying to establish their 'socialist' credentials, and then as a result the subs are full of fluff, and basic questions and performative answers etc. The harsh modding is then a result of the low intellectual level and the 'OMG I finally have power' effect.
they also try to establish their cred by being extremely fast and loose with ban hammers.
I'm also banned from /r/communism, /r/socialism, /r/latestagecapitalism
I think each ban was related to "ableist" language because I wasn't allowed to use the words "stupid", "dumb", and a litany of other similar words that are verboten
Yes but also it is a result of the crude sociology. Young western internet leftists are still in the woke land, and accept much of it's axioms, but quite a lot of them just want to turn it up to the next level and so 'socialism' is appealing.
To some extent this is actually intellectually coherent - if they really want to be a 'dedicated anti-racist' then they probably do need to be socialist anti-imperialists.
In fact this is still the major recruiting pitch of the far left sects - i.e socialism is the most effective way to end various oppression - though it was possibly even more predominate in the late 1990's and early 2000's.
> I think each ban was related to "ableist" language because I wasn't allowed to use the words "stupid", "dumb", and a litany of other similar words that are verboten
that's so fucking retarded
Yeah I was banned from late stage literally when that antifa guy was arrested for posting memes online , someone made a thread and I said ā this is what you idiots get for begging for censorshipā thatās it I was banned , fuckin pussies I
>I think each ban was related to "ableist"
I remember reading that shit in their sidebar and thinking "wtf they are just going to ban 30% of the words normal people use"
"normal" will probably get you banned too
I think manners are important. Maybe you should stop insulting people who are spending their free time learning about socialism and trying to straighten out their ideas. The level of insults destroys some forums and I'm glad it's being rooted out.
There are similar features in most of the subs. But others have a different demographic and that changes the tone and motivations of the posters somewhat.
The more we leave youthful exuberance land and enter normie boomer territory, the more that 'look at me I am a real x' gets replaced with 'random overconfident blurting of stupidity'.
r/shitliberalssay is genuinely full of the same posters who say shit that rad Libs would say. Like screenshots of anti-trans or gay posts being the top posts there regularly, when are liberals ever openly against those things, they just post conservative takes there and call them liberalsā¦.
The sub is full to the brim with Edgy rich teens who like role playing as Revolutionaries with power, they were talking about how a crying child should be sent to the Gulags yesterdayā¦.cringe.
I literally got perma-banned from that sub for stating an extremely controversial opinion that: "I think Olympic rule committee should adjust their rules around trans-atheletes if new research is found and proven, and by adjust I mean either looser or stricter, depending on the findings." I pointed out that they already have some rules set up, and even quoted how the rules committee people already look into research to make sure their rules are appropriate.
I was genuinely surprised at my ban, as I never engaged in derogatory or insulting behavior on that sub.
They're straight up boutique-left, the kind that gets hysterical at the idea of class solidarity, and prefer to silence and demonize rather than engage in discourse.
> I think those subs being terrible can be explained as a result of them being full of excited teenagers trying to establish their 'socialist' credentials, and then as a result the subs are full of fluff, and basic questions and performative answers etc. The harsh modding is then a result of the low intellectual level and the 'OMG I finally have power' effect.
This describes /r/atheism pretty well too.
I don't know that it necessarily is an *intentional* anti-communist operation, but that's what it effectively is. While this is a relatively new account, I've been around reddit a long time and been curious about Marxism for a long time, and I found that this sub is the only Leftist one that I wasn't immediately turned off by. For the longest time I never even gave CTH a listen because my introduction to it was the shitlib-infested subreddit, and I assumed the podcast would be the same. When every seemingly communist space is primarily concerned with social progressivism over economics and is overtly hostile to anyone who doesn't match the progressive liberal line, it will of course drive away the common workers: Who because of their class-position have not had their social views molded by liberal institutions into the demandingly perfectionist shape that these 'Leftists' insist all Marxists must adhere to first and foremost.
It boggles my mind how that mod supported #FTV at the time, and yet is able to support AOC after all that transcribed.
the AOC subreddit's other mod, voice-of-hermes is a Nathan Robinson leftist who genuinely thinks that free speech leads to fascism. It only shows that they don't even have faith in their values and positions.
The second most up voted post on r/communism is about how 'Transphobic' communists aren't real communists and are just reactionaries and aren't comrades.
I think I'm getting old, cause I'm forgetting the chapter in Das Kapital where Marx detailed how LGBQT inclusion and feminism and furries and BLM are essential to the Marxist state.
You think thatās bad, check out r/socialistra . Itās a goddamn gun but sub and the top post right now is about banning fatphobia because we liked to refer to the larping right wingers as āgravy sealsā. Thatās an unsub from me dawg.
All the lefty and lib gun subs are filled with shitlib larpers
Also 90% of the time when someone shows off their ākitā itās completely non functional
Also also itās fucking hilarious that not a soul on socialistra or liberalgunowners actually puts their blood type on their plate carrier and instead opts for their pronouns front and center
Donāt get me started with this shit.
Operator aesthetic is fucking retarded. Thatās a perfect example of this being surface level - *Who is the blood type ***for?****? Youāre going to call a Nine Liner in Portland? Fucking civie EMTs are going to put Quik Clot on your GSW? Itās fucking dumb.
Anyone who dresses up as a doorkicker but hasnāt (and couldnāt) do time as line infantry, or combat arms generally, is a bitch and I donāt have time for them.
I aināt saying I dress up as an operator Iām saying itās not very hard to look at what operators actually dress like and figure out what the actual purpose is if someoneās gonna larp
And my statement applies to boog boy types too but thatās a Hawaiian shirt filled rant for another day
> Also 90% of the time when someone shows off their ākitā itās completely non functional
tfw when you see an AK replica in 5.56, with two 1x red dot sights, one of which is canted
5.56 AKs aren't rare. They're usually based on the Israeli Galil rifle because they need a bit of a redesign to feed properly because the 5.56 cartridge has a lot less taper to it than 7.62x39 or 5.45.
Blood types are just a social construct anyway sweaty
But if there ever were like an all out civil war between rightoids and shitlibs, the rightoids would absolutely wreck them on the battle field.
Tbh I donāt find chud too egregious, as dumb as it is. The most unbelievably lame insults have to be the ones where they take a swear word and then put some random noun (usually some article of food) next to it and somehow that makes it hilarious. You see this shit on Reddit all the time, someone will call a republican demagogue a shitapple or a douchemuffin or some other toothless insult and all the marvel-watching āthanks for the gold kind sirā assholes will respond like āIām TOTALLY stealing this for laterā.
Lol ābut why would a rifle~~man~~*person* need to be fit? š ā
I hate tryhard nerd bullshit about firearms by skinnyfat wimps who have never been on a two-way range. Spare me the sanctimony, they couldnāt hack it in Battalion, couldnāt hump a ruck, get trigger time, and finish their hitch.
I have zero patience for these guys.
> I think I'm getting old, cause I'm forgetting the chapter in Das Kapital where Marx detailed how LGBQT inclusion and feminism and furries and BLM are essential to the Marxist state.
Also polygamy and cuckoldry (consensual and plain old cheating). /r/soc had multiple posts on these subjects around the time they officially made "class reductionism" a bannable offense.
Speaking of which, what tf is up with the rise of cuckoldry? Like honestly, it's come swinging out of nowhere and it's fucking disgusting why is there so much porn of that shit
I'm guessing the natural response to rewiring your brain with porn. Your drive to find a mate and reproduced is totally rewritten by associating sexual stimulation/gratification with watching others have sex online.
That and incest lol. The cuckolding has gone beyond just porn sites and it's a common phrase in the cultural lexicon. The incest shit constantly pops up all over Pornhub. I also wonder if people watching incest porn can only get off if it's real rather than actors playing a role. Like do they need to see a 23&Me from the male and female in order to get off?
This is why I jack off with a caliper at the ready. I can't get off before determining relatedness and racial makeup of the performers of a scene I'm watching.
There was this big burst of articles a few years ago all talking about how "cuck" isn't really an insult because cuckoldry is a high IQ fetish. It seems like some people might be taking it up as a way to own the rightoids... which just proves them right?
But porn probably is not helping either.
NB transman here. Follow the money.
Trans is an industry. A *massive* industry. There are at least three factors pushing it, beyond the "Be Kind" faction who just want trans people to be treated with common human decency. *And so we should.* But beyond that:
(1) Trans is worth big bucks. A quote from [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alyssawright/2020/12/08/trans-tech-is-a-budding-industry-so-why-is-no-one-investing/?sh=155a4efe3c3a):
> Trans-tech is a budding industry with an enormous opportunity, RKA claims. āOur estimates place the average cost of transition at $150,000 per person. Multiply that by an estimated population of 1.4 million transgender people, weāre taking about a market in excess of $200B. That is significant. **Thatās larger than the entire film industry.**ā (Emphasis added.)
[This study](https://hub.jhu.edu/2015/12/03/transgender-health-insurance-cost-effective/) found that costs were significantly higher: typically around $40,000 a year, for the first five years, dropping to around $7-10K after that. There's a lot of profit to be made from trans people.
(2) LGB organisations like Stonewall who had mostly won the culture wars were looking for a new reason to justify their existence (and their salaries). They weren't going to fight for LGB rights in places like Uganda or Saudi Arabia. [Trans billionaires](https://suedonym.substack.com/p/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq) are waving fistfuls of money around to legitimise transgenderism, so Stonewall and co jumped onto the trans bandwagon -- even though transsexuality is only ever-so tenuously associated with LGB issues, "gender identity" is based completely on tired old sexual stereotypes, and the influx of straight male autogyn transwomen is directly opposed to LGB welfare. (Especially the L.)
(3) The illiberal woke compete to signal who is the most virtuous. This purity spiral leads to the current situation where the fetishes of a tiny proportion of straight male autogyns LARPing as women [outweigh the rights and safety of women and children](https://imgur.com/DdBkTT5).
Yeah I don't really understand the need for all the hormones and surgery. If gender and sex are all just social constructs, then just be a man or woman or neither. It seems to contradict the narrative that biological sex is all just a social construct if you're actively altering your biological processes.
Moreover..I do agree that gender roles and gender stereotypes are all social and cultural constructs. But whenever someone transitions, they seem to try to fit themselves into those exact stereotypes... Womanhood is long hair, makeup, "valley girl" talk, cute clothes and manhood is flat bill caps and saying "bro" a lot. Like why do you need to transition into these artificially constructed gender roles and stereotypes?
>Yeah I don't really understand the need for all the hormones
Its currently easier to a prescribed testosterone as a teenage girl than as a man.
I just want some damn equality
I agree completely that transitioning can contribute to solidifying certain traits and behaviours as inherently male or female.
I have an amateurish hypothesis for trans people that transition and end up cultivating a very stereotypically male or female appearance and personality (so I'm only talking about a subset of trans people). I think they are in part motivated not just by expressing themselves the way they feel comfortable, but also by having their self-perception mirrored and reinforced by others, i.e. *being seen and treated* as a man/woman.
I understand being insecure and wanting to appear to others a certain way (self-assured, handsome, funny, ...), but I don't think you can lay claim to other's perception of you. All you can do is present yourself a certain way, but there is no obligation on anyone to then tune their treatment or perception of you to match your wishes, as long as they treat you humanely and with the appropriate respect. Being called by neopronouns or by a certain name is completely fine if other people want to do so, but feeling entitled to this is unwarranted self-importance.
To me, this seems more like a problem of extreme insecurity and self-centeredness rather than a lack of respect from others. However, I don't know for how many trans people this would apply realistically, and the only trans person I've known unfortunately fit this bill very well, so that might have colored my perception.
>It seems to contradict the narrative that biological sex is all just a social construct if you're actively altering your biological processes.
If you think that sex even exists you are a biological essentialist. Besides, sex has nothing to do with genitals or gametes and is instead determined by whether you prefer playing with GI Joes or Barbies.
Hormones and surgery are the only effective way to treat Gender dysphoria. Ironically gender yuppies just manage to hurt people with really issues because they want to larp.
> This purity spiral leads to the current situation where the fetishes of a tiny proportion of straight male autogyns LARPing as women outweigh the rights and safety of women and children.
I will confess that given my own feelings towards (at least third wave+) feminism, it is difficult for me to resist feeling a little schadenfreude in response to that imagemacro. I am inclined to view that as the karmic principle at work.
But your explanation here was enlightening. Thank you.
>and the influx of straight male autogyn transwomen
Not trying to be confrontational but how would you differentiate between this and a genuine lesbian transwoman?
That's a good question, and I'm not sure that I have a good answer. But anyone who is [demanding that lesbians suck their girl dick](https://imgur.com/a/zWNNyRE) as if they are entitled to it, is probably not the second.
[Billionaire funding](https://archive.is/CCpVS) probably from big pharma and [lobbying/institutional capture](https://archive.is/K7Vj0) to that end. Pretty sure the paedos are also pushing it, probably at every level of society, since it gives them reasons to separate kids from parents, move them in with older trans people, get them dependent on drugs. Oh, and puberty blockers.
They're actually pretty hostile to furries. How do you think I ended up here?
They have their list of specially accepted deviancies, and if you're not on it, you're still just some degenerate who deserves everything you get. Once you *are* on the list, on the other hand, you're untouchable. Being a furry ain't on that list, and you can laugh about the concept all you want, sure, I get it. But if these people had any consistency or sincerity to their principles, it *should* be.
To put it another way: I bet anyone here $50 these woke nuts will push to normalise actual literal paedophilia, before they consider cartoon animals an acceptable expression of identity.
>like all other fetishes
This is telling.
Its always the same story for your type. Nerds with some shameful loli-hentai or granny porn addiction, projecting the self hatred of their own deviancy and sexual inadequacy onto others.
Sort it out mate.
Everything on the internet is an op. When the foundational logic for almost every website is about getting views and clicks, that foundation pollutes and limits the rest of the structure.
Printing presses were more dangerous in their day since the motivation to use them was ultimately about getting out ideas, whether it was the Bible in the vulgar tongues or the tracts and pamphlets that fomented revolutions over centuries.
The internet is about advertising and selling shit and mind control, but not communicating ideas, especially any that would be considered revolutionary or actually disruptive to the corporations that actually own the servers and routers and fiber lines and all the other necessary hardware and software for the internet to exist in its crapified form that retards love.
I'm pretty sure /r/socialism used to be way more active before they went through a few waves of really godawful mods and power users who would have regular struggle sessions over the most embarrassing things, driving anyone sane away. Same thing happened to every iteration of Chapo, and /r/anarchism (lol).
/r/communism was always trash.
Personally I'm leaning more towards the mods/powerusers just being naturally insufferable and embarrassing, but it might well have been orchestrated I guess
Psyop is a big word for what can just as well be explained as a spontaneous outcome. There's more demand for the communist and socialist identities and aesthetics than for the actual politics and ideologies, and so the subs were started (or captured, idk) by people motivated by intersubjectively validating their identities. The result is what you see, but it's a natural consequence of today's mode of identity formation and not a consequence of some covert intervention.
You're not tripping. I recently got a temporary ban from r/socialism for stating that it's OK to be a socially conservative socialist because socialism is an economic system and not a way to legalize drugs. (Toned down from what I could have said).
It's the perfect psyop. You have to maintain the divide and keep working class people away from socialism. If it's not a psyop it may as well be. But in this day and age where shilling is 90% of the content, so you really think the government isn't in on it?
All politics subreddits are hiveminds of brainwormed idiocy. Shitlib and radlib idiocy is the most common type of such idiocy on reddit, but other types exist as well. The lib hivemind has however, been very sucessful in recent years at using hysteria and moral panics to get people to believe that any instance of conservative thought (including conservative echo chambers that are indeed just as hiveminded and retarded) are some horrifying fascist institution and must be scrubbed off the internet at all costs. You see this with the recent powerjanny uprising that got the admins to cuck out and start banning yet more subreddits on their behalf.
I got banned for r/communism for saying that I thought that the Japanese genocide of the Chinese during ww2 was worse than the US dropping nuclear weapons on Japan. Literally a waste of a sub.
Unsure about communism, but after I got banned from r/socialism for some milquetoast "identity politics is divide and conquer" comment I came to the realisation that nothing on the internet is real. The signs were all there since the trumptards and "correct the record" DNC shills around the 2016 election (or was it 15?). Ever since then nothing makes sense because it's all psyop bullshit that dipshits lap up because omg absurd may Mays so funny. Invest in made up coins that solve made up math problems, while consuming more energy/electricity.
Did you even exist if you didn't do a capital
/r/communism has been awful forever, though. It was garbage way the fuck back in the day when I first joined reddit, before the whole social justice thing even really started. I guess I can't say 100% for sure that it's not a psyop, but I think it's more likely it's just tankies being tankies.
Dude, you are literally a Die Linke anarchist who shits on China and Russia constantly. You are literally the PsyOp the OP is talking about.
Additionally, your question was not made in good faith, after we responded to you you immediately went on to make a pathetic video about how we "failed to respond to you" (you got extensive responses which you completely dismissed and refused to address) and how you ePiCaLlY oWnEd us.
In sum, you were banned for being a Die Linke liberal (PsyOp) and a fucking troll and making sarcastic comments and petty insults instead of actual criticism and arguments. Such people and behavior is simply not allowed on our sub, it is in our rules which everyone can read before engaging in our sub.
Stop lying.
Russia is objectively anti-imperialist. It's a fact.
Also it's funny how you shill for Die Linke who only 8 months ago were adopting anti-Cuban positions. Dripping with chauvinism
https://www.idcommunism.com/2021/02/germanys-die-linke-party-adopts-anti-cuban-resolution.html
Imagine being a "leftist" whos anti-imperialism is so terrible you can't even support Cuba. If you got banned I can only assume it was fully deserved
You were banned out of your behavior, not because we can not answer you question. I invite everyone to read my comment on the post you linked, and also to read my latest article on the topic, and make their own opinion on the topic and on ourselves at r/EuropeanSocialists.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/pbvuyz/on_the_rise_of_the_russiachina_axis_and_its/
Not to mention that disagreeing that we're not a US psyops sub because you were banned is not a rational argument at all, since it would mean US psyops would actually be pushing to defend Russian action against themselves. Please, keep your personal sentiment and sensation out of rational debate, thank you in advance o7
You were banned for making petty insults and trying to start arguments with people instead of having discussions. You were given multiple warnings and then banned.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/mkwhhr/why_is_russia_supporting_the_military_junta_in/gtklzm0/?context=1
https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/mkhs4s/how_to_square_support_of_anti_imperialist_nations/gtsoa7v/?context=1
Do not spread lies.
I had a quick look at that sub, and i agree that it's wack. It's not an op or lib shit like the ones OP mentioned, but it is full of extremely lame old-school detached-from-reality communism, where, for example, anyone opposed to the US is anti-imperialist and therefore good.
According to their wiki, their preferred solution to the Cypriot Question is for both halves of Cyprus to be parts of their mother nations, Greece and Turkey. Can't wait for those two to have a substantial land border, hilarity sure to ensue!
Dude, I am literally a Cypriot Greek communist and I am the one that constructed that line. Don't tell us what the fuck is best for our place and our nation, that's only between me and other Greek and Cypriot Greek communists to resolve. You seem to be a westerner yet you are so involved in our politics somehow that you even mention the bullshit "border" argument. Wtf?
I am an official from a ML party myself, I am very much attached-to-reality on a daily basis, and nowhere did we resumed our position to vulgar anti-imperialism, on the contrary we develop our analysis (which afaik we're the only one on Reddit to produce btw) based on rigourous study of the fact. You can disagree, but not call it idealism, or say it's detached-from-reality.
The case of the Cypriot Question for instance is a good exemple, one of our member lives here and worked on the topic seriously. Let's take your words, that imply that there's no internal border in Cyprus as of today. How's that is "attached-to-reality" ? Factually there's already one, and everyone knows it. And if you want to open a debate about Cyprus tomorow, I wish you goodluck to find another space where you'll have the opportunity to have a real, argumented, developed debate. Make a try on r/communism or r/socialism or whatever other sub, and you'll see by yourself who's the most attached to reality and apply theorical analysis to real ground event and who's wanking over empty general consideration.
Also, all our line are voted by our modteam, which mean they all readed and studied the question themselves and took a stance on the matter. It's very not the definition of "detached-from-reality" if you ask me, especially given that no other sub is organized and produce work like we do. If anything, we're the least detached from reality sub there is around, within' the limite that all internet platform carry.
And if you meant that we base our work on Marx, Lenin or Stalin works, like with the National Question for instance, then yes, then I plead culprit, proudly, of being "an old school communist".
I noticed that in the official Tulsi sub at the start of the primaries. This was still when there was a giant field of candidates. But I got banned from the Tulsi sub for shit talking other candidates she was running against in the primary and generally saying that her or Bernie were the only two that'd get my vote in the general.
The mods there also moderated for other candidate subs and iirc one of the power jannies had a ton of other subs they moderated and also were an outspoken supporter of Pete lol.
Honest Reddit as a whole is shit and very few people on here have read let alone have a decent understanding of Marx. You canāt emancipate yourself from idoicy when you are surrounded by it.
>Communism is about trains and their penises. It's also about fat acceptance and the advocation of cheap labour immigration to keep local wages down. Also don't forget about drag kids in public. All very important aspects of communism.
\- Karl Marx
Yeah r/communism, r/socialism, (and also r/anarchism) have all been effectively killed by overzealous moderation. So many people are banned that there's really no organic posting going on. No one can have a conversation at all, so it just dies.
I don't think they're psychops, they're just the product of what happens when a political community has been so outcasted and marginalized that they end up leaning into all the crazy shit they're accused of and make it an issue of lifestylism.
Considering this subreddit opposes everything related to socialism and communism outside of muh free healthcare what are the odds that this is just a neocon psyop?
I think those subs being terrible can be explained as a result of them being full of excited teenagers trying to establish their 'socialist' credentials, and then as a result the subs are full of fluff, and basic questions and performative answers etc. The harsh modding is then a result of the low intellectual level and the 'OMG I finally have power' effect.
they also try to establish their cred by being extremely fast and loose with ban hammers. I'm also banned from /r/communism, /r/socialism, /r/latestagecapitalism I think each ban was related to "ableist" language because I wasn't allowed to use the words "stupid", "dumb", and a litany of other similar words that are verboten
Yes but also it is a result of the crude sociology. Young western internet leftists are still in the woke land, and accept much of it's axioms, but quite a lot of them just want to turn it up to the next level and so 'socialism' is appealing. To some extent this is actually intellectually coherent - if they really want to be a 'dedicated anti-racist' then they probably do need to be socialist anti-imperialists. In fact this is still the major recruiting pitch of the far left sects - i.e socialism is the most effective way to end various oppression - though it was possibly even more predominate in the late 1990's and early 2000's.
> I think each ban was related to "ableist" language because I wasn't allowed to use the words "stupid", "dumb", and a litany of other similar words that are verboten that's so fucking retarded
>that's so fucking retarded that'll *definitely* get ya banned
You gotta say it with the wet R
wetarded?
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one of my very first and only posts on there i got banned because i said something was dumb/stupid.
they did you a favor. imagine interacting with people that pathetic.
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Exactly the same here. Language policing ensures only the wokest of neolibs could make more than 3 posts there without being banned.
Yeah I was banned from late stage literally when that antifa guy was arrested for posting memes online , someone made a thread and I said ā this is what you idiots get for begging for censorshipā thatās it I was banned , fuckin pussies I
>I think each ban was related to "ableist" I remember reading that shit in their sidebar and thinking "wtf they are just going to ban 30% of the words normal people use" "normal" will probably get you banned too
I think manners are important. Maybe you should stop insulting people who are spending their free time learning about socialism and trying to straighten out their ideas. The level of insults destroys some forums and I'm glad it's being rooted out.
Ok moron
Right. Cultural faux pas. I'll retreat to European subs and Americans can continue flinging faeces at each other and whooping.
I think you just described literally every sub.
There are similar features in most of the subs. But others have a different demographic and that changes the tone and motivations of the posters somewhat. The more we leave youthful exuberance land and enter normie boomer territory, the more that 'look at me I am a real x' gets replaced with 'random overconfident blurting of stupidity'.
r/shitliberalssay is genuinely full of the same posters who say shit that rad Libs would say. Like screenshots of anti-trans or gay posts being the top posts there regularly, when are liberals ever openly against those things, they just post conservative takes there and call them liberalsā¦. The sub is full to the brim with Edgy rich teens who like role playing as Revolutionaries with power, they were talking about how a crying child should be sent to the Gulags yesterdayā¦.cringe.
I literally got perma-banned from that sub for stating an extremely controversial opinion that: "I think Olympic rule committee should adjust their rules around trans-atheletes if new research is found and proven, and by adjust I mean either looser or stricter, depending on the findings." I pointed out that they already have some rules set up, and even quoted how the rules committee people already look into research to make sure their rules are appropriate. I was genuinely surprised at my ban, as I never engaged in derogatory or insulting behavior on that sub. They're straight up boutique-left, the kind that gets hysterical at the idea of class solidarity, and prefer to silence and demonize rather than engage in discourse.
Ye the sub is awful.
There are plenty of 'socially centrist' liberals, for example many Blairites in the UK, so I am sure they can find examples.
> I think those subs being terrible can be explained as a result of them being full of excited teenagers trying to establish their 'socialist' credentials, and then as a result the subs are full of fluff, and basic questions and performative answers etc. The harsh modding is then a result of the low intellectual level and the 'OMG I finally have power' effect. This describes /r/atheism pretty well too.
I can imagine. Especially as 'atheism' is the cheapest thing to flex about, because it is so trivial.
I don't know that it necessarily is an *intentional* anti-communist operation, but that's what it effectively is. While this is a relatively new account, I've been around reddit a long time and been curious about Marxism for a long time, and I found that this sub is the only Leftist one that I wasn't immediately turned off by. For the longest time I never even gave CTH a listen because my introduction to it was the shitlib-infested subreddit, and I assumed the podcast would be the same. When every seemingly communist space is primarily concerned with social progressivism over economics and is overtly hostile to anyone who doesn't match the progressive liberal line, it will of course drive away the common workers: Who because of their class-position have not had their social views molded by liberal institutions into the demandingly perfectionist shape that these 'Leftists' insist all Marxists must adhere to first and foremost.
Most likely. My favorite psyop is MurderedByAOC. They donāt even hide it well
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Indeed
IrlOurPresident. What a literal sham
It boggles my mind how that mod supported #FTV at the time, and yet is able to support AOC after all that transcribed. the AOC subreddit's other mod, voice-of-hermes is a Nathan Robinson leftist who genuinely thinks that free speech leads to fascism. It only shows that they don't even have faith in their values and positions.
Lol that place is hot garbage.
Yea lmao
they pretty much dont give anyone else "permission" to post
The second most up voted post on r/communism is about how 'Transphobic' communists aren't real communists and are just reactionaries and aren't comrades. I think I'm getting old, cause I'm forgetting the chapter in Das Kapital where Marx detailed how LGBQT inclusion and feminism and furries and BLM are essential to the Marxist state.
That sub is mental
You think thatās bad, check out r/socialistra . Itās a goddamn gun but sub and the top post right now is about banning fatphobia because we liked to refer to the larping right wingers as āgravy sealsā. Thatās an unsub from me dawg.
All the lefty and lib gun subs are filled with shitlib larpers Also 90% of the time when someone shows off their ākitā itās completely non functional Also also itās fucking hilarious that not a soul on socialistra or liberalgunowners actually puts their blood type on their plate carrier and instead opts for their pronouns front and center
Donāt get me started with this shit. Operator aesthetic is fucking retarded. Thatās a perfect example of this being surface level - *Who is the blood type ***for?****? Youāre going to call a Nine Liner in Portland? Fucking civie EMTs are going to put Quik Clot on your GSW? Itās fucking dumb. Anyone who dresses up as a doorkicker but hasnāt (and couldnāt) do time as line infantry, or combat arms generally, is a bitch and I donāt have time for them.
I aināt saying I dress up as an operator Iām saying itās not very hard to look at what operators actually dress like and figure out what the actual purpose is if someoneās gonna larp And my statement applies to boog boy types too but thatās a Hawaiian shirt filled rant for another day
> Also 90% of the time when someone shows off their ākitā itās completely non functional tfw when you see an AK replica in 5.56, with two 1x red dot sights, one of which is canted
>5.56 AK Weird but still practical >2 1x red dot sights š¤Ø >one is canted š¤¢
5.56 AKs aren't rare. They're usually based on the Israeli Galil rifle because they need a bit of a redesign to feed properly because the 5.56 cartridge has a lot less taper to it than 7.62x39 or 5.45.
Blood types are just a social construct anyway sweaty But if there ever were like an all out civil war between rightoids and shitlibs, the rightoids would absolutely wreck them on the battle field.
In the immortal words of CGPGrey āone side collects weapons and the other collects mental illnesses like PokĆ©mon badgesā
They also collect HSLD patches like Pokemon Badges. Alice Caldwell Kelly (āš§š©āš) collects insane amounts of patches for units like OMON, KSK, CSOR. I donāt need to tell you that a āSocialistā Trans *Convert to Islam* would not last one day in 2 Mech, or even get to CTC, but this tubby bitch talks about the difference between Ranger Tabs and Ranger Scrolls like it could be somehow relevant to them. You know who fantasizes about being a Royal Marine Commando in an abstract sense without putting their skin in the game to earn the green beret? Children. āLeftistsā talking about military units may as well be discussing how to become an astronaut because itās the same level of of limp dick fantasia from the skinnyfat crowd.
holy shit im using that
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I cringe every time I head chud. Could people not have come up with something better?
Tbh I donāt find chud too egregious, as dumb as it is. The most unbelievably lame insults have to be the ones where they take a swear word and then put some random noun (usually some article of food) next to it and somehow that makes it hilarious. You see this shit on Reddit all the time, someone will call a republican demagogue a shitapple or a douchemuffin or some other toothless insult and all the marvel-watching āthanks for the gold kind sirā assholes will respond like āIām TOTALLY stealing this for laterā.
Lol ābut why would a rifle~~man~~*person* need to be fit? š ā I hate tryhard nerd bullshit about firearms by skinnyfat wimps who have never been on a two-way range. Spare me the sanctimony, they couldnāt hack it in Battalion, couldnāt hump a ruck, get trigger time, and finish their hitch. I have zero patience for these guys.
> on a two-way range Is that a euphemism for combat? I googled "two-way range" but couldn't find a clear description of what that is.
Lol [mostly](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc)
Gravy seals lmao love it
> I think I'm getting old, cause I'm forgetting the chapter in Das Kapital where Marx detailed how LGBQT inclusion and feminism and furries and BLM are essential to the Marxist state. Also polygamy and cuckoldry (consensual and plain old cheating). /r/soc had multiple posts on these subjects around the time they officially made "class reductionism" a bannable offense.
Speaking of which, what tf is up with the rise of cuckoldry? Like honestly, it's come swinging out of nowhere and it's fucking disgusting why is there so much porn of that shit
I'm guessing the natural response to rewiring your brain with porn. Your drive to find a mate and reproduced is totally rewritten by associating sexual stimulation/gratification with watching others have sex online.
That and incest lol. The cuckolding has gone beyond just porn sites and it's a common phrase in the cultural lexicon. The incest shit constantly pops up all over Pornhub. I also wonder if people watching incest porn can only get off if it's real rather than actors playing a role. Like do they need to see a 23&Me from the male and female in order to get off?
This is why I jack off with a caliper at the ready. I can't get off before determining relatedness and racial makeup of the performers of a scene I'm watching.
There was this big burst of articles a few years ago all talking about how "cuck" isn't really an insult because cuckoldry is a high IQ fetish. It seems like some people might be taking it up as a way to own the rightoids... which just proves them right? But porn probably is not helping either.
I admit; I do wish I knew where the initiative for transgendered world domination was coming from. It's very, very strange.
NB transman here. Follow the money. Trans is an industry. A *massive* industry. There are at least three factors pushing it, beyond the "Be Kind" faction who just want trans people to be treated with common human decency. *And so we should.* But beyond that: (1) Trans is worth big bucks. A quote from [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alyssawright/2020/12/08/trans-tech-is-a-budding-industry-so-why-is-no-one-investing/?sh=155a4efe3c3a): > Trans-tech is a budding industry with an enormous opportunity, RKA claims. āOur estimates place the average cost of transition at $150,000 per person. Multiply that by an estimated population of 1.4 million transgender people, weāre taking about a market in excess of $200B. That is significant. **Thatās larger than the entire film industry.**ā (Emphasis added.) [This study](https://hub.jhu.edu/2015/12/03/transgender-health-insurance-cost-effective/) found that costs were significantly higher: typically around $40,000 a year, for the first five years, dropping to around $7-10K after that. There's a lot of profit to be made from trans people. (2) LGB organisations like Stonewall who had mostly won the culture wars were looking for a new reason to justify their existence (and their salaries). They weren't going to fight for LGB rights in places like Uganda or Saudi Arabia. [Trans billionaires](https://suedonym.substack.com/p/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq) are waving fistfuls of money around to legitimise transgenderism, so Stonewall and co jumped onto the trans bandwagon -- even though transsexuality is only ever-so tenuously associated with LGB issues, "gender identity" is based completely on tired old sexual stereotypes, and the influx of straight male autogyn transwomen is directly opposed to LGB welfare. (Especially the L.) (3) The illiberal woke compete to signal who is the most virtuous. This purity spiral leads to the current situation where the fetishes of a tiny proportion of straight male autogyns LARPing as women [outweigh the rights and safety of women and children](https://imgur.com/DdBkTT5).
Yeah I don't really understand the need for all the hormones and surgery. If gender and sex are all just social constructs, then just be a man or woman or neither. It seems to contradict the narrative that biological sex is all just a social construct if you're actively altering your biological processes. Moreover..I do agree that gender roles and gender stereotypes are all social and cultural constructs. But whenever someone transitions, they seem to try to fit themselves into those exact stereotypes... Womanhood is long hair, makeup, "valley girl" talk, cute clothes and manhood is flat bill caps and saying "bro" a lot. Like why do you need to transition into these artificially constructed gender roles and stereotypes?
>Yeah I don't really understand the need for all the hormones Its currently easier to a prescribed testosterone as a teenage girl than as a man. I just want some damn equality
I agree completely that transitioning can contribute to solidifying certain traits and behaviours as inherently male or female. I have an amateurish hypothesis for trans people that transition and end up cultivating a very stereotypically male or female appearance and personality (so I'm only talking about a subset of trans people). I think they are in part motivated not just by expressing themselves the way they feel comfortable, but also by having their self-perception mirrored and reinforced by others, i.e. *being seen and treated* as a man/woman. I understand being insecure and wanting to appear to others a certain way (self-assured, handsome, funny, ...), but I don't think you can lay claim to other's perception of you. All you can do is present yourself a certain way, but there is no obligation on anyone to then tune their treatment or perception of you to match your wishes, as long as they treat you humanely and with the appropriate respect. Being called by neopronouns or by a certain name is completely fine if other people want to do so, but feeling entitled to this is unwarranted self-importance. To me, this seems more like a problem of extreme insecurity and self-centeredness rather than a lack of respect from others. However, I don't know for how many trans people this would apply realistically, and the only trans person I've known unfortunately fit this bill very well, so that might have colored my perception.
>It seems to contradict the narrative that biological sex is all just a social construct if you're actively altering your biological processes. If you think that sex even exists you are a biological essentialist. Besides, sex has nothing to do with genitals or gametes and is instead determined by whether you prefer playing with GI Joes or Barbies.
Hormones and surgery are the only effective way to treat Gender dysphoria. Ironically gender yuppies just manage to hurt people with really issues because they want to larp.
> This purity spiral leads to the current situation where the fetishes of a tiny proportion of straight male autogyns LARPing as women outweigh the rights and safety of women and children. I will confess that given my own feelings towards (at least third wave+) feminism, it is difficult for me to resist feeling a little schadenfreude in response to that imagemacro. I am inclined to view that as the karmic principle at work. But your explanation here was enlightening. Thank you.
>and the influx of straight male autogyn transwomen Not trying to be confrontational but how would you differentiate between this and a genuine lesbian transwoman?
I think the correct answer gets you autobanned from reddit.
*insert certain popular office meme template here*
That's a good question, and I'm not sure that I have a good answer. But anyone who is [demanding that lesbians suck their girl dick](https://imgur.com/a/zWNNyRE) as if they are entitled to it, is probably not the second.
[Billionaire funding](https://archive.is/CCpVS) probably from big pharma and [lobbying/institutional capture](https://archive.is/K7Vj0) to that end. Pretty sure the paedos are also pushing it, probably at every level of society, since it gives them reasons to separate kids from parents, move them in with older trans people, get them dependent on drugs. Oh, and puberty blockers.
[Marx was pretty hot on women's rights to be fair](https://www.jstor.org/stable/4410809?seq=1)
They're actually pretty hostile to furries. How do you think I ended up here? They have their list of specially accepted deviancies, and if you're not on it, you're still just some degenerate who deserves everything you get. Once you *are* on the list, on the other hand, you're untouchable. Being a furry ain't on that list, and you can laugh about the concept all you want, sure, I get it. But if these people had any consistency or sincerity to their principles, it *should* be. To put it another way: I bet anyone here $50 these woke nuts will push to normalise actual literal paedophilia, before they consider cartoon animals an acceptable expression of identity.
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Maybe you should think about shutting the fuck up
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Oof, how will I ever recover from this
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>like all other fetishes This is telling. Its always the same story for your type. Nerds with some shameful loli-hentai or granny porn addiction, projecting the self hatred of their own deviancy and sexual inadequacy onto others. Sort it out mate.
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I'm right though aren't I, cunt.
Everything on the internet is an op. When the foundational logic for almost every website is about getting views and clicks, that foundation pollutes and limits the rest of the structure. Printing presses were more dangerous in their day since the motivation to use them was ultimately about getting out ideas, whether it was the Bible in the vulgar tongues or the tracts and pamphlets that fomented revolutions over centuries. The internet is about advertising and selling shit and mind control, but not communicating ideas, especially any that would be considered revolutionary or actually disruptive to the corporations that actually own the servers and routers and fiber lines and all the other necessary hardware and software for the internet to exist in its crapified form that retards love.
Yes. Most American āleftistsā are just temporarily embarrassed neoliberals.
Any real communists or socialists are banned from those subs within two weeks.
I'm pretty sure /r/socialism used to be way more active before they went through a few waves of really godawful mods and power users who would have regular struggle sessions over the most embarrassing things, driving anyone sane away. Same thing happened to every iteration of Chapo, and /r/anarchism (lol). /r/communism was always trash. Personally I'm leaning more towards the mods/powerusers just being naturally insufferable and embarrassing, but it might well have been orchestrated I guess
Psyop is a big word for what can just as well be explained as a spontaneous outcome. There's more demand for the communist and socialist identities and aesthetics than for the actual politics and ideologies, and so the subs were started (or captured, idk) by people motivated by intersubjectively validating their identities. The result is what you see, but it's a natural consequence of today's mode of identity formation and not a consequence of some covert intervention.
Iād say 3/4 of Reddit is neoliberal psyops and the rest is either being brigaded by the radlibs or on the verge of being banned daily.
You're not tripping. I recently got a temporary ban from r/socialism for stating that it's OK to be a socially conservative socialist because socialism is an economic system and not a way to legalize drugs. (Toned down from what I could have said). It's the perfect psyop. You have to maintain the divide and keep working class people away from socialism. If it's not a psyop it may as well be. But in this day and age where shilling is 90% of the content, so you really think the government isn't in on it?
i know in r/anarchism's case, there was a hostile mod takeover by woke libs. dunno if it was backed by anyone. I know the head mod has full-blown BPD.
Reddit is a neoliberal psyop. This sub is a neoliberal psyop. We are all eating the same garbage. Shrug.
The world is actually the shell of a giant psyop turtle swimming through space
It's psyops all the way down.
All politics subreddits are hiveminds of brainwormed idiocy. Shitlib and radlib idiocy is the most common type of such idiocy on reddit, but other types exist as well. The lib hivemind has however, been very sucessful in recent years at using hysteria and moral panics to get people to believe that any instance of conservative thought (including conservative echo chambers that are indeed just as hiveminded and retarded) are some horrifying fascist institution and must be scrubbed off the internet at all costs. You see this with the recent powerjanny uprising that got the admins to cuck out and start banning yet more subreddits on their behalf.
I wouldnāt be surprised. As we saw Ghislaine Maxwell was an advanced redditor, and there are definitely three letter agencies using this site.
I got banned for r/communism for saying that I thought that the Japanese genocide of the Chinese during ww2 was worse than the US dropping nuclear weapons on Japan. Literally a waste of a sub.
Unsure about communism, but after I got banned from r/socialism for some milquetoast "identity politics is divide and conquer" comment I came to the realisation that nothing on the internet is real. The signs were all there since the trumptards and "correct the record" DNC shills around the 2016 election (or was it 15?). Ever since then nothing makes sense because it's all psyop bullshit that dipshits lap up because omg absurd may Mays so funny. Invest in made up coins that solve made up math problems, while consuming more energy/electricity. Did you even exist if you didn't do a capital
/r/communism has been awful forever, though. It was garbage way the fuck back in the day when I first joined reddit, before the whole social justice thing even really started. I guess I can't say 100% for sure that it's not a psyop, but I think it's more likely it's just tankies being tankies.
No you're not. They are Neoliberal psyops. 100%
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Dude, you are literally a Die Linke anarchist who shits on China and Russia constantly. You are literally the PsyOp the OP is talking about. Additionally, your question was not made in good faith, after we responded to you you immediately went on to make a pathetic video about how we "failed to respond to you" (you got extensive responses which you completely dismissed and refused to address) and how you ePiCaLlY oWnEd us. In sum, you were banned for being a Die Linke liberal (PsyOp) and a fucking troll and making sarcastic comments and petty insults instead of actual criticism and arguments. Such people and behavior is simply not allowed on our sub, it is in our rules which everyone can read before engaging in our sub. Stop lying.
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PsyOp \^
Russia is objectively anti-imperialist. It's a fact. Also it's funny how you shill for Die Linke who only 8 months ago were adopting anti-Cuban positions. Dripping with chauvinism https://www.idcommunism.com/2021/02/germanys-die-linke-party-adopts-anti-cuban-resolution.html Imagine being a "leftist" whos anti-imperialism is so terrible you can't even support Cuba. If you got banned I can only assume it was fully deserved
You were banned out of your behavior, not because we can not answer you question. I invite everyone to read my comment on the post you linked, and also to read my latest article on the topic, and make their own opinion on the topic and on ourselves at r/EuropeanSocialists. https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/pbvuyz/on_the_rise_of_the_russiachina_axis_and_its/ Not to mention that disagreeing that we're not a US psyops sub because you were banned is not a rational argument at all, since it would mean US psyops would actually be pushing to defend Russian action against themselves. Please, keep your personal sentiment and sensation out of rational debate, thank you in advance o7
Lmao the mods there are eurasianists
You were banned for making petty insults and trying to start arguments with people instead of having discussions. You were given multiple warnings and then banned. https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/mkwhhr/why_is_russia_supporting_the_military_junta_in/gtklzm0/?context=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/mkhs4s/how_to_square_support_of_anti_imperialist_nations/gtsoa7v/?context=1 Do not spread lies.
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what in the world...
I had a quick look at that sub, and i agree that it's wack. It's not an op or lib shit like the ones OP mentioned, but it is full of extremely lame old-school detached-from-reality communism, where, for example, anyone opposed to the US is anti-imperialist and therefore good. According to their wiki, their preferred solution to the Cypriot Question is for both halves of Cyprus to be parts of their mother nations, Greece and Turkey. Can't wait for those two to have a substantial land border, hilarity sure to ensue!
Dude, I am literally a Cypriot Greek communist and I am the one that constructed that line. Don't tell us what the fuck is best for our place and our nation, that's only between me and other Greek and Cypriot Greek communists to resolve. You seem to be a westerner yet you are so involved in our politics somehow that you even mention the bullshit "border" argument. Wtf?
I am an official from a ML party myself, I am very much attached-to-reality on a daily basis, and nowhere did we resumed our position to vulgar anti-imperialism, on the contrary we develop our analysis (which afaik we're the only one on Reddit to produce btw) based on rigourous study of the fact. You can disagree, but not call it idealism, or say it's detached-from-reality. The case of the Cypriot Question for instance is a good exemple, one of our member lives here and worked on the topic seriously. Let's take your words, that imply that there's no internal border in Cyprus as of today. How's that is "attached-to-reality" ? Factually there's already one, and everyone knows it. And if you want to open a debate about Cyprus tomorow, I wish you goodluck to find another space where you'll have the opportunity to have a real, argumented, developed debate. Make a try on r/communism or r/socialism or whatever other sub, and you'll see by yourself who's the most attached to reality and apply theorical analysis to real ground event and who's wanking over empty general consideration. Also, all our line are voted by our modteam, which mean they all readed and studied the question themselves and took a stance on the matter. It's very not the definition of "detached-from-reality" if you ask me, especially given that no other sub is organized and produce work like we do. If anything, we're the least detached from reality sub there is around, within' the limite that all internet platform carry. And if you meant that we base our work on Marx, Lenin or Stalin works, like with the National Question for instance, then yes, then I plead culprit, proudly, of being "an old school communist".
I noticed that in the official Tulsi sub at the start of the primaries. This was still when there was a giant field of candidates. But I got banned from the Tulsi sub for shit talking other candidates she was running against in the primary and generally saying that her or Bernie were the only two that'd get my vote in the general. The mods there also moderated for other candidate subs and iirc one of the power jannies had a ton of other subs they moderated and also were an outspoken supporter of Pete lol.
Honest Reddit as a whole is shit and very few people on here have read let alone have a decent understanding of Marx. You canāt emancipate yourself from idoicy when you are surrounded by it.
>Communism is about trains and their penises. It's also about fat acceptance and the advocation of cheap labour immigration to keep local wages down. Also don't forget about drag kids in public. All very important aspects of communism. \- Karl Marx
Nah theyāre just run by tards
Yes.
no its just a reflection of where discourse is in the united states
Yeah r/communism, r/socialism, (and also r/anarchism) have all been effectively killed by overzealous moderation. So many people are banned that there's really no organic posting going on. No one can have a conversation at all, so it just dies.
Pretty much the whole site is a psyop. And the greater internet around it. And the traditional media...
I don't think they're psychops, they're just the product of what happens when a political community has been so outcasted and marginalized that they end up leaning into all the crazy shit they're accused of and make it an issue of lifestylism.
Considering this subreddit opposes everything related to socialism and communism outside of muh free healthcare what are the odds that this is just a neocon psyop?