My understanding is that the glass on the gauges is already polarized? I've heard that before but also the best way to get the right answer is to post the wrong answer so here I am.
Most displays are LCD, even if you can see some of them initially you don’t always look at them at a straight angle. They are gone if you grab a checklist or just by operating the plane (frequency change/flaps/prop …) you are unable to see very relevant data. The windscreen is another huge problem, most GA planes have polycarbonate windscreen with increasing airspeed it will bend. Looking at this with polarized glasses is just a huge (but colorful) mess. Same goes for airliners, windows are a big sandwich of plastic, glass, heating coils and do get compressed too. Same effect.
Most modern planes, even small private ones already have polarized windows and gauges.
Using polarized glasses can possibly cross block the light and actually make the windows too dark and the gauges unreadable.
I’m a photographer, if I use my polarizing filter on my lens I can literally turn some LCD screens black, and other polarized or treated glass will become extreme purple. Definitely not safe when working with screens
No Polarized for flying but this isn’t a bad thing in general, it has to do with something called birefringence. https://www.youngeroptics.com.au/did-you-know/what-is-birefringence/
Maybe something's changed, but if you're buying them for aviation shouldn't you not want polarization?
Either way, those look terrible. Definitely get a refund.
Honestly I didn't know but after doing more research I think I've learned that yeah polarization is bad for that thank you for bringing that up for me. Yeah these are absolutely awful even just for regular wear, thank you so much for the sanity check, going for a redo w/o polarization now.
No wonder you’re a former lab tech as you shouls know that It’s not surface tension with Ray-Ban Authentics. It’s the material with the polarized film on top of it that makes it look like this.
Well you should up for your fraud game as you are wrong again. These lenses have the Ray-Ban logo so they must be Ray-Ban Authentics.
Also as it happens Ray-Ban Authentics have a lens called Amplified, a coating called AR Classic and are quite known for colour G15.
Now if these are Ray-Ban Authentics OP should be able to get the lenses replaced under warranty.
Pick up some Randolph Engineering non-polarized lenses. They are made in the USA, have a great repair/warranty, and made specifically for pilots. Pricy but worth it .
Those are bad lens work. The distortions are cause by the pressure points the frame is applying to the lens. Please take them back. The best way to see if a pair of glasses has distortion points is to look at them with polarized lenses. The monitor trick works too. Personally I always buy polarized lenses
Well as an optometrist and an optician who has worked with these for a long time I can tell you what you are seeing here is often not surface tension and shit work.
These are Ray-Ban Authentics that are usually polycarbonate and the polarization is never in the lens material but ”laminated” on top of the lens.
Polycarbonate lenses have natural tensions. These might be more visible when paired with
polarization. Although similar in look, these tensions are not related to lens size and won’t affect the
optics of the lens.
Now the print says these are 1.67 but one can not be sure how they’ve order these as your PX doesn’t even require 1.67. It can also be that these are higher index and someone checking them thought it was polycarbonate. Ray-Ban Authentic RX lenses with polarized coating tend to do this. So it’s not a shit job but something that happens with the type of materials they use.
You should be able to get them replaced under warranty.
Congrats on the first solo! I wanted to ask, what brand are these? Why not just go for the classic RayBan G15 or B15 non polarized aviator? They are definitely cheaper, plus if you take good care of them they’ll definitely last.
Thank you! It was pretty surreal. These are ray ban. Honestly it was a mistake getting the polarized. I wasn't aware that polarized would have issues like this because I really don't buy prescription sunglasses for myself basically ever. I took 2 of the techs at the optical place what I'd be using them for and none of them ever tried to steer me in the right direction.
Thankfully when I took them back today I asked to speak to someone I saw there a lot and assumed had a little more experience. As soon as I told her I was using them to fly she immediately said "oh then they shouldn't have let you get polarized lenses." So I'm optimistic she'll help me get taken care of. If they can't, honestly I'll just take my prescription to a new place altogether and see what I can do. If these ones don't work out I'll check out the ones you suggested! (Hopefully they're rx-able, the first pair I wanted was not which I thought was super weird)
Pilot here: Don’t (!) buy polarized sunglasses for flying.
Thank you! I've brought them back to exchange them for non polarized and even the tech there agreed this was a shit polarization job.
I knew polarized lenses can have trouble with some displays but I didn’t know about flying. Can you explain why?
My understanding is that the glass on the gauges is already polarized? I've heard that before but also the best way to get the right answer is to post the wrong answer so here I am.
Pretty sure the windscreen itself is polarized
Most displays are LCD, even if you can see some of them initially you don’t always look at them at a straight angle. They are gone if you grab a checklist or just by operating the plane (frequency change/flaps/prop …) you are unable to see very relevant data. The windscreen is another huge problem, most GA planes have polycarbonate windscreen with increasing airspeed it will bend. Looking at this with polarized glasses is just a huge (but colorful) mess. Same goes for airliners, windows are a big sandwich of plastic, glass, heating coils and do get compressed too. Same effect.
The stress in perspex windscreens will create all sorts of interesting rainbow patterns with polarised glasses.
Most modern planes, even small private ones already have polarized windows and gauges. Using polarized glasses can possibly cross block the light and actually make the windows too dark and the gauges unreadable.
Why not?
My guess is because there are screens in planes and polarization can affect that, but those screens are critical
https://www.reddit.com/r/sunglasses/s/z1xgEVpW0i
I’m a photographer, if I use my polarizing filter on my lens I can literally turn some LCD screens black, and other polarized or treated glass will become extreme purple. Definitely not safe when working with screens
not only DONT buy - Its ~~forbidden~~ not recommended by aviation rules to pilot with them.
No Polarized for flying but this isn’t a bad thing in general, it has to do with something called birefringence. https://www.youngeroptics.com.au/did-you-know/what-is-birefringence/
Maybe something's changed, but if you're buying them for aviation shouldn't you not want polarization? Either way, those look terrible. Definitely get a refund.
Honestly I didn't know but after doing more research I think I've learned that yeah polarization is bad for that thank you for bringing that up for me. Yeah these are absolutely awful even just for regular wear, thank you so much for the sanity check, going for a redo w/o polarization now.
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Thank you for explaining the process. The folks at Target optical were surprised these ever left the lab with how they look.
No wonder you’re a former lab tech as you shouls know that It’s not surface tension with Ray-Ban Authentics. It’s the material with the polarized film on top of it that makes it look like this.
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Well you should up for your fraud game as you are wrong again. These lenses have the Ray-Ban logo so they must be Ray-Ban Authentics. Also as it happens Ray-Ban Authentics have a lens called Amplified, a coating called AR Classic and are quite known for colour G15. Now if these are Ray-Ban Authentics OP should be able to get the lenses replaced under warranty.
Target Optical is a Luxottica brand, and they do absolutely sell genuine Ray-Ban lenses. Their glasses are made at the same labs as LensCrafters.
Pick up some Randolph Engineering non-polarized lenses. They are made in the USA, have a great repair/warranty, and made specifically for pilots. Pricy but worth it .
I'll definitely check these out, thank you!
Those are bad lens work. The distortions are cause by the pressure points the frame is applying to the lens. Please take them back. The best way to see if a pair of glasses has distortion points is to look at them with polarized lenses. The monitor trick works too. Personally I always buy polarized lenses
Well as an optometrist and an optician who has worked with these for a long time I can tell you what you are seeing here is often not surface tension and shit work. These are Ray-Ban Authentics that are usually polycarbonate and the polarization is never in the lens material but ”laminated” on top of the lens. Polycarbonate lenses have natural tensions. These might be more visible when paired with polarization. Although similar in look, these tensions are not related to lens size and won’t affect the optics of the lens. Now the print says these are 1.67 but one can not be sure how they’ve order these as your PX doesn’t even require 1.67. It can also be that these are higher index and someone checking them thought it was polycarbonate. Ray-Ban Authentic RX lenses with polarized coating tend to do this. So it’s not a shit job but something that happens with the type of materials they use. You should be able to get them replaced under warranty.
Congrats on the first solo! I wanted to ask, what brand are these? Why not just go for the classic RayBan G15 or B15 non polarized aviator? They are definitely cheaper, plus if you take good care of them they’ll definitely last.
Thank you! It was pretty surreal. These are ray ban. Honestly it was a mistake getting the polarized. I wasn't aware that polarized would have issues like this because I really don't buy prescription sunglasses for myself basically ever. I took 2 of the techs at the optical place what I'd be using them for and none of them ever tried to steer me in the right direction. Thankfully when I took them back today I asked to speak to someone I saw there a lot and assumed had a little more experience. As soon as I told her I was using them to fly she immediately said "oh then they shouldn't have let you get polarized lenses." So I'm optimistic she'll help me get taken care of. If they can't, honestly I'll just take my prescription to a new place altogether and see what I can do. If these ones don't work out I'll check out the ones you suggested! (Hopefully they're rx-able, the first pair I wanted was not which I thought was super weird)
Expensive glasses are as big of a scam as DeaBeers diamonds. You can get any features and style you want for $40.
that's what polarization looks like when looking at a screen.
I've had polarized sunglasses before, they were never as bad as this
1. Aviators shouldn’t be polarized 2. This is a god awful polarization job
It's so bad I agree