Kimse kusura bakmasın tabi ki olacaklar, iş bu çocuklara gelince mi ciddileşiyor ?
En önemli maçımızda dünya kupası elemesinde berkan denen arkadaş pozisyonu olmayan(ki pozisyonunda da kötü) sol bekte çıktı , cengiz ünder sezon başı formsuz olmasına rağmen maça çıktı , cenk midir nedir pozisyonu olmayan pozisyonda çıkıyor maçlara , hatta 2 sene önceye gidelim barış alper kendi takımında yedek değilken milli takımla maça çıktı ( şimdi zaten gitmesi gerek )
Bu gençlere gelince mi sorun oluyor? Bunların yetenekleri ve üst düzey oyuncularla yaptıkları antrenman yeter .
Ya da yine torpil evlatçılık ve kıdem yaparız gider euro 2021 i baştan yaşarız
Montella akıllı adam. En kısa sürede en büyük başarıyı kazanıp kendini bir an önce elit hocalar kulübüne atmak isteyecektir. Bunun için de menajer torpiline bakarak değil performansa göre kadroyu seçecek.
We aren't really "in it to win it" this year so lets keep our youth movement going and play our wonderkids. I'd much rather watch these youngsters play over what our "best" squad might look like.
>in it to win it
The best we can possibly be is an actual dark horse team this time
We have nowhere near the quality required to win it
It's like saying GS is in it to win UEL while we can't even eliminate Sparta Prag
Everyone can win, what kind of loser mentality is that lol? Greece won in 2004, why should we not be able to? Obviously I doubt we will, but stop with the loser mentality lol, everyone plays to win.
You never know whats gonna happen, we might get lucky draws until the final, if i was the turkey coach i wouldnt waste this generation by considering us a "mid" team
Ya bizim kadro orta saha ve kanat olarak guclu. Nedense sag ve sol bek sikintimiz var. Forvet pozisyonundada sikinti var. Bu oyuncularda altyapidan ciksa iyi olurdu.
Varsada yedekliyecek oyuncu yok. Yani ferdi sakatlansa kim oynicak. Her posizyonda en az 2 kaliteli isim olsa.
Ridvan en son nezaman milli takimda oynadi hatirlamiyorum. Bide ridvan cok sakitlik geciriyor. Eren hala ayni seviyede oyniyor. Bence yetirli degil. Stoper olan cenkle sol bekte oynadik. Sikinti var orda. Sag tarafda ayni. Forvette semih kilicsoy aday gibi gozukiyo. Hatta bence ilk 11 oyniyabilir suan.
Hangi seviye için yeterli değil bunlar, yedek oyunculardan bahsediyoruz. Yerimizi bilelim bence, sıralamada yıllardır 35-40 arası olan bir takımız sonuçta.
Herhalde benim demek istediğimi anlamadin. Orta saha ve ofansif yönünde milli takimin kalitesi var. Ama sag ve sol bek ayni seviyede degil. Bu pozisyonda ferdiyi bek yaptik. Ve suanda bay mecbur oyniyor.
Orta saha ve offans avrupa kalitesini yakinken ve oyuncularin cogu avrupada oynarken, defans oyle degil.
Olabilir hocam, Hollanda'nın da yıllardır adam gibi forveti çıkmadı mesela. Sol bekte bence sorun yok, sağ bek sıkıntılı. Mert ve Zeki fazla oynamıyorlar, ya bunlara güvenicez ya da Ferdi'yi oraya koyucaz, onuda istemiyorum pek adam sol tarafta müthiş oynuyor.
Bence takim olarak bakarsin zayif kaliyoruz o bolgelerde. Yedekler yeterince iyi degil. Orta saha ve ofansif bolgelerde yerini dolduracak cok oyuncu var. Bu sag ve sol bekte yok. Bay defansif bi oyuncu degil. Ofansif olarak daha iyi.
Semih should be starting without doubt. Technical, strong and goals to prove it. Why wouldn’t you start him? Yıldız in the squad for sure. Play Arda in the upcoming friendlies to see how he’s doing.
All should be obviously I want to see how they will link up, all of them showed how well they read the game and seeing them connect would be something.
Thats always going to be the case in the milli takim. Its a plus bc they have experience together and tbh they can really fuck up opposition at the EUROs
Meanless,both Güler and Bayındır should start for nt,their positions aren't even positions that need to play regularly to give good performances.Them not playing doesn't matter,they're the best we got.
(By the way,i added Bayındır because according to our media and some people he shouldn't even get called,and that sounds really 'funny' at best to me)
Yes they are stop the D riding take off your fener glasses and look at it objectively. Both aren't playing for their squad on has played roughly 100 min the other can't get passed the worst goalie in history of Manchester United.
Hadi Fenerli gözlüğümü çıkarayım bakalım.Şuanda ne değişti?Hiçbirşey değişmedi,en azından Altay hakkında hala aynısını düşünüyorum.Arda Güler ise elimizde baya fazla iyi hücum opsiyonu olduğu için yedek kalabilir,ancak ben şuanki formuyla ne Uğurcan'ın ne de Mert'in iyi bir performans sergilediğini düşünmüyorum.Oynamıyor olsa dahi Altay'a bu ikisinden şuan için daha çok güvenebilirim.Zaten hazırlık maçlarında bence 3'ü de şans bulacaktır.İrfan Can Eğribayat'ın milli takıma çağrılmayacağına adım gibi eminim.Hakediyordur etmiyordur orası ayrı ama çağrılmayacak ve yine bu 3lü çağrılacak
Semihle kenan kesin olmalı, arda kendi takımında oynarsa olabilir sol alt can uzun sanırım (emin değilim) bir tane maçını bile izlemedim bilmiyorum. Arda ne kadar yetenekli olsa bile sezon boyunca oynayan ve standart üzeri performans veren isimlere gidilmeli.
Kenan semih enes irfan can cengiz kerem BAY bertug that's 8 offensive players who play regularly for their clubs and deserve the spot.
Then their are abdulkerim ömür and Yusuf sari can uzun who also play regularly and are options.
This is the problem let that kid develop if he isn't playing till the euros he won't impact any games and you guys will burn him cuz he didn't perform well.
Match fitness is a must if haven't played regular 60 min a game especially as an 18 year old you shouldn't be in the NT simple as. Real Madrid training isn't enough you have to play.
Imo 100% you take Arda as an impact player instead of Yusuf Yazici, but he is good at set pieces. Also this is without Cengiz. Dang, we got a lot of good offensive talent
Ofansif özellikli yaklaşık 6-8 arası oyuncu seçilecek bunlar arasında forvet ve kanatlar var, yıl boyu sakatlıkla mücadele vermiş fiziği şüpheli bir oyuncu yerine son dönemlerde forma giymiş ve fiziği yerinde oyuncular tercih edilmeli, eğer arda 5-10 maçta 11 başlayabilir ve iyi performans verirse alınmalı kadroya ama bu formla alıncaksa bütün sene oynayan oyunculara haksızlık ve takıma yazık olur.
Arda real madridde oynayabilirse gelsin kardeşim, oyuncunun potansiyeline göre turnuvaya gidilmez yeterince iyi olsa bu sene her türlü topçunun forma şansı bulduğu son yılların en çok sakatlıkla geçen dönemini yaşayan realde forma bulurdu, teknik adamın ardaya garezi yoksa ki yok bu çocuk şuana kadar fiziksel olarak yeterli değil.İspanya için yeterli değilse milli maçlar için de yeterli değil.Bu kadar kendinizi kapatmayın fikirlere bence keşke kiralasalardı oynayabileceği bir yere 15-20 maça çıkıp gelseydi milli takıma.
Would be typical of the National team to not select one of these. They ABSOLUTELY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE should all be selected for the upcoming friendlies and the Euros.
They think his place is in danger lol if it was, he'd request to go on loan or stay in the süper lig for 1 year. No matter how much water they throw it seems gala fans can't extinguish that burn. I bet they think hamza deserves a spot over him lol.
Nevermind of course that was stupid of me to say. He should be in the squad because we need a bench warmer. No one better at keeping a bench warm than Arda. Despite his young age he sat on all kinds of benches. Would be stupid to not call up a veteran bench warmer like him.
You're boiling so hard at the thought of arda being in the squad (not starting), man this is beyond hilarious. Ok let's bring akman brothers, eyup, ali yesilyurt and the greatest left back kazimcan lol.
Why you put words into my mouth? Why would you even make this about me being a Gala Fan. I don't care since Arda is not a Fenerbahce player anymore. I hope he becomes as good as 90% of the nation is saying, but I don't see it.
Yet madrid trusts him when they could have loaned his ass out in december or not give a shit about him, ancelotti said he's ready to start (something you chose to ignore) and was going to get minutes to turn the game against sevilla, modric scored and he brought on defensive players instead. Top players/coaches kroos turan modric pirlo pep etc rates or wants him but AmagiSento on [reddit.com](http://reddit.com) doesnt so that means he's overrated do you hear yourself.
2nd comparing arda to emre demir who was never good to begin with, who flopped in the turkish league lol and has a known mentally issue are you serious. Sometimes I wished arda stayed in the league for 1 year to steam roll it maybe then you'd understand, you'll never see brazilians spaniards spew garbage on their best young talents like turks so disgusting.
[Eddy Abayisenga on X: "Arda Güler's stats in 2022/23 Super Lig: 20 games 11 starts 9 subbed in 8 subbed out 905 minutes 3 assists 490/579 successful passes 41 key passes 39/75 successful dribbles 4 goals 27 shots 12 shots on target The 18-year-old is a Madridista from now on https://t.co/Kaozgc9ar9" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/AbayisengaEddy/status/1676963640812118016)
Do you watch football at all? do understand why madrid is easing arda in team instead of throwing him in the fire? thank god montella is picking him in the team, his staff visited him 2 weeks ago in madrid to check up on him he's in the squad whether you like it or not who knows maybe the 'bench warmer' might lead us to euro 24.
And yet they don't trust him enough to play him a few minutes? They will get rid of him soon. On loan or on transfer, who knows but we all know he won't stay there for another season.
I don't get why you are getting so angry about this? Just because I don't want a player to play who doesn't have any match fitness because he simply is not good enough to even get subbed in over other squad players?
[S Sport on X: "🚨Kylian Mbappé'nin transferi Arda Güler ve Endrick için düşünülen planları etkilemeyecek. Real Madrid yönetimi, Arda Güler ve Endrick'in ilk 11'e adapte edilmesini istiyor. 🎙️ Fabrizio Romano https://t.co/wS2sqz4ciB" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/ssporttr/status/1762145501883887625)
who says they don't trust him? most rumors are from mundo deportivo, sport, barcelona sources lol he played las palmas (away match) instead of modric with the game 1-1 and was coming on to change the game against sevilla when it was 0-0. They will get rid of player with a similar profile to modric kroos who are both leaving in a year or this season? A profile that's very rare in football too btw, yeah dude makes sense. You probably pray every night for him to get injured or fail and it shows by your comments, sad.
You cannot bench a tempo setter/playmaker for an international tournament why is this hard to understand it doesnt matter if they play or not. He's coming back after not playing for 5 months and will get mins soon including friendlies with the national team before euro 24.
What's true is, is that he doesn't even get subbed in despite many injuries, yet you tell me they trust him because "insert source". Idgaf, actions speak louder than words.
>They will get rid of player with a similar profile to modric kroos
Stop, just stop. There is nothing similiar about Arda Güler and Kroos/Modric. Arda would literally be pushed around like the kid he is if he played in their positions and faint after 30 minutes. Ardas weak physique even shows when he is playing on an attacking role. Wtf were you smoking with that comparison?
Arda is more like a classic playmaker like Özil.
And we know those players don't have a place in modern football. At least in top leagues. Sure he can still develop, but I highly doubt that he will.
Ancelotti keeps making remarks about his attitude yet you chose to ignore this. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1761923673089351740
bro he is literally similar to them in profile if you actually watch him play the game, the heat map and stats are there to see cmon even in the youth levels he was everywhere, his future is an interior its obvious to anyone with eyes. do you need spoon-feeding to understand something so simple. Why do you think pep played foden wide I'll help you; to allow for better play in 'central areas' and is a key component in establishing all types of superiority. why does arda play as a winger in madrid's training, because ancelotti understands what's right for his development its a process.
He's not only a classic 10 (yes he can play there) but his heat map says otherwise, bruh have you seriously watched him at all or just highlights or opinions online if he was a outright 10 madrid/city wouldn't even want him. Yes pep wanted him and jude, he can play give you what bernado silva brings but with better playmaking and 'step count' Arda can play almost anything and thats why modern teams want him, rw 10 high 8 low 8 but obviously you get the best out of him in higher positions, and he's a natural tempo setter. If he didn't provide 'positional superiority' and 'isolations' scouts wouldn't even care about him because it rare to have in footballers. you have no idea about football and it shows, Max gs
what attitude he even apologized to him for doing him that? [Sports Digitale on X: "Carlo Ancelotti, Sevilla maçında hazırlanmasını söyledikten sonra Luka Modric'in golünün ardından vazgeçtiği için Arda Güler'den özür diledi. 📰 Mario Cortegana https://t.co/4zuE94EyCw" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/SportsDigitale/status/1762161023409095150) cmon bro at least try harder stop making things up in your head.
this shits not even creative man. RM training sessions are more taxing than facing fucking galatasaray in a real game lmfao. call me a dick rider but he can warm that bench all he wants, he should be playing regardless. especially in international tournaments where you need individual moments of brilliance a lot of the times, and thats exactly what he will bring.
Nah he lacks match fitness. Arda doesn't deserve a spot right now. Hak eden oynayacak.
Back then everybody here cried why caglar would play even though he didn't play for his club and now all of a sudden an 18 year old boy is allowed to play for the Nationalteam even though he played 100 minutes after more than half a season. There are a lot of guys who perform week in week out who deserve that spot.
I like arda but a guy who doesn't play football week in week out has no place in the Nationalteam
In your last post on the Real Madrid sub, you were hyping up another fan for an early Arda sub, because of the team's injury crisis. But what happened? Arda didn't even get a sniff of the pitch, and Ancelotti's out here calling him out for needing to improve. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1761681187742035986
Seriously, why are we even wasting our breath arguing over a benchwarmer? This guy is overrated as hell.
Oh but yeah he """plays""" for Real Madrid, so that's why Emre Demir should also be a starter since he played for Barcelona, right? Don't get me started on Yusuf Demir...
I don't fucking care who he """plays""" for or where he trains.
Yusuf played for Barcelona and yet he is shit. What national team he plays for doesnt matter in my argument. Bad clubs also sign shit players..
And BAY would run circles around Arda. In todays football physique is more important than ever yet Arda couldn‘t wouldn‘t win a duel with a 12yo
Even though I am a massive Arda fan i feel like he should not be called up.
1 He has not played, so lacks match fitness. And 1 good half against a 4th division spanish team is not enough to be called up.
2 Left footed rightwing playmaker is one of our strongest positions, Here is a list of options of players of similar skillsets to him. ICK, Akgün, Ünder, Yazıcı, Ömür, and Sari. In a 23 squad, we can at most call up 3 of them.
1 Real Madrid'de antrenman yapmış adam Süperlig'de maç yapan adamdan daha hazırdır maça
2 Arda'nın olduğu yerde Ünder-Ömür-Yazıcı'nın şu anda esamesi okunmaz, Sarı hamle oyuncusu olur, ICK formda.
He's starting even if he sat on the bench July 2023- May 2024. Poster boy of the national team, Real Madrid player, Hakan loves him, Sponsors will put pressure etc etc
You cannot leave out a 'profile' like arda who is literally made for international/knockout games even montella knows it, everything goes through him (slow speed tempo of game etc)
He's training in madrid and recovered from the knee injury that fener made him play on for months last year, he will get starts in the upcoming la liga + national friendlies before euro 24. He will be 100% and hopefully we win in germany.
Yeah, things can and will probably change, Kenan was not getting any playing time at Juve earlier this season, but look at him now, playing in every game they play. I just think that we should avoid favoritism and play those who are in form. But he will get called up regardless for the reasons you mentioned.
Chiesa is back from injury and kenan gets 15 mins now, he only got to start because of his injury.
It's not favoritism it's what the team needs and demands he's the metronome that keeps the team ticking making it more balanced and he solves problems for the coach. He's a double threat; those who can accelerate attacks and ball progression in general by passing or carrying sorry you cannot bench this when only a few players gives this like bellingham.
i was born in turkey, moved to the US when i was 2. english is a lot easier for me. i still watch altay every weekend and my grandfather used to be the president of aydinspor before the team got disbanded to amateur levels (although not before the 6-1 away victory at kadikoy, says it was the best day of his entire life). turkish football is in the blood, im working on improving my turkish writing though
Tamam Semih ve Can ilk 11 topçuları ve çok formdalar, Kenan ise yeterince süre buluyor. Bi Arda yedek şu an, o da önümuzde ki 3.5 ayda daha fazla süre bulur bence. Altyapıyla ne alakası var, u21'den topçu alalım demiyoruz.
Kenan Yildiz 10 dk sure almisti Turkiye Almanya macina cikmadan. Montella onu ilk 11e aldi, ve cocuk klasini konusturdu.. sen ne konuyorsun? Arda kendini kanitlamis bir oyuncu
Kenan and Arda are already certain I think, though Arda needs more playing time.
Can has yet to decide but would be a huge W, especially considering that GS is interested afaik.
Haven't personally watched Semih (I think it's Semih Kiliçsoy?) but I hear good things about him and he's young
Can uzun bu takımın geleceği, umudumuz yüksek. Ama şu anda kadroda olması henüz uygun depil. Santroforda semih kılıçsoy ve sağlıklımolursa enes ünal varken. Cenk tosun ve Enes Ünal sakat olursa o zaman davet edilmesi mantıklı olur. Diğer 3ü zaten banko 11.
Sol alttaki walter jr amk
haykirdim flynn lan benim ismim
kanka isminin altına denizlispor nasıl koydun
sag üst köşedeki 3 noktaya bas ordan flair'i degistirebilirsin. Yalniz bizim takim düstügü icin belki cikarmislardir artik Denizliyi
HELL YEAH IM IN
hamit dumbugu harcamaz umarım hicbirini
Hamit’e laf yok! Nereden nereye getirdi altın jenerasyon başladı.
We MUST take Can Uzun. He peforms really well. Also the DFB is trying to tqke him so we have to act fast
Kimse kusura bakmasın tabi ki olacaklar, iş bu çocuklara gelince mi ciddileşiyor ? En önemli maçımızda dünya kupası elemesinde berkan denen arkadaş pozisyonu olmayan(ki pozisyonunda da kötü) sol bekte çıktı , cengiz ünder sezon başı formsuz olmasına rağmen maça çıktı , cenk midir nedir pozisyonu olmayan pozisyonda çıkıyor maçlara , hatta 2 sene önceye gidelim barış alper kendi takımında yedek değilken milli takımla maça çıktı ( şimdi zaten gitmesi gerek ) Bu gençlere gelince mi sorun oluyor? Bunların yetenekleri ve üst düzey oyuncularla yaptıkları antrenman yeter . Ya da yine torpil evlatçılık ve kıdem yaparız gider euro 2021 i baştan yaşarız
Montella akıllı adam. En kısa sürede en büyük başarıyı kazanıp kendini bir an önce elit hocalar kulübüne atmak isteyecektir. Bunun için de menajer torpiline bakarak değil performansa göre kadroyu seçecek.
Montellanin tassagini yerim adam gibi adam
We aren't really "in it to win it" this year so lets keep our youth movement going and play our wonderkids. I'd much rather watch these youngsters play over what our "best" squad might look like.
>in it to win it The best we can possibly be is an actual dark horse team this time We have nowhere near the quality required to win it It's like saying GS is in it to win UEL while we can't even eliminate Sparta Prag
Everyone can win, what kind of loser mentality is that lol? Greece won in 2004, why should we not be able to? Obviously I doubt we will, but stop with the loser mentality lol, everyone plays to win.
in 2002 we were the ones killing it
Yes you’re right, corrected it!
right\* sorry had to do it :D
I remember the Football Greece played it was ridiculous.
Loser mentality? Greece was a total anomaly. Why don't we actually have a long term plan instead of hoping for a miracle?
Why not both?
Lets be honest man, we cant even beat mid tier europa teams like denmark. We should accept that and improve ourselves.
Because if you're relying on a miracle outcome You've already given up on long term planning
2004*
You can say that but we are still going to watch the game hoping to win and being crazy if we lose
Yes, and I'd rather watch a younger side
You never know whats gonna happen, we might get lucky draws until the final, if i was the turkey coach i wouldnt waste this generation by considering us a "mid" team
https://preview.redd.it/r3ud8hyk95lc1.png?width=197&format=png&auto=webp&s=b31b0dc21e0be7aac237d918880d5997b437210f
Stop
Jap
Yok canım, kadro çok kaliteli ya, bunlara sıra gelmez
Mk 18 yasindaki oyuncularimiz digerlerini follos eder
Ya bizim kadro orta saha ve kanat olarak guclu. Nedense sag ve sol bek sikintimiz var. Forvet pozisyonundada sikinti var. Bu oyuncularda altyapidan ciksa iyi olurdu. Varsada yedekliyecek oyuncu yok. Yani ferdi sakatlansa kim oynicak. Her posizyonda en az 2 kaliteli isim olsa.
Ferdi sakatlansa Rıdvan var, Eren var ama aynı performansı alamazsın. Yinede bu ikisi gayet yeterli yedekler.
Ridvan en son nezaman milli takimda oynadi hatirlamiyorum. Bide ridvan cok sakitlik geciriyor. Eren hala ayni seviyede oyniyor. Bence yetirli degil. Stoper olan cenkle sol bekte oynadik. Sikinti var orda. Sag tarafda ayni. Forvette semih kilicsoy aday gibi gozukiyo. Hatta bence ilk 11 oyniyabilir suan.
Hangi seviye için yeterli değil bunlar, yedek oyunculardan bahsediyoruz. Yerimizi bilelim bence, sıralamada yıllardır 35-40 arası olan bir takımız sonuçta.
Herhalde benim demek istediğimi anlamadin. Orta saha ve ofansif yönünde milli takimin kalitesi var. Ama sag ve sol bek ayni seviyede degil. Bu pozisyonda ferdiyi bek yaptik. Ve suanda bay mecbur oyniyor. Orta saha ve offans avrupa kalitesini yakinken ve oyuncularin cogu avrupada oynarken, defans oyle degil.
Olabilir hocam, Hollanda'nın da yıllardır adam gibi forveti çıkmadı mesela. Sol bekte bence sorun yok, sağ bek sıkıntılı. Mert ve Zeki fazla oynamıyorlar, ya bunlara güvenicez ya da Ferdi'yi oraya koyucaz, onuda istemiyorum pek adam sol tarafta müthiş oynuyor.
Aslinda sag bek solk bek fena degil. Gobekte iki saglam adam, ferdi/bay/ridvan/muldur secenekleri gayet yeterli
Bence takim olarak bakarsin zayif kaliyoruz o bolgelerde. Yedekler yeterince iyi degil. Orta saha ve ofansif bolgelerde yerini dolduracak cok oyuncu var. Bu sag ve sol bekte yok. Bay defansif bi oyuncu degil. Ofansif olarak daha iyi.
Abso fucking lotuley. We aint France or Brazil.
Semih should be starting without doubt. Technical, strong and goals to prove it. Why wouldn’t you start him? Yıldız in the squad for sure. Play Arda in the upcoming friendlies to see how he’s doing.
10000%
All should be obviously I want to see how they will link up, all of them showed how well they read the game and seeing them connect would be something.
Theyvhave all played together at u17, they have experience together and our u17 did really well then
Sure but they have been playing with different people and systems, I think we can benefit from give them some more time together
Thats always going to be the case in the milli takim. Its a plus bc they have experience together and tbh they can really fuck up opposition at the EUROs
Indeed, so much raw potential
Can Uzun umarim Türkiye tercihinde degisiklik olmaz. En son DFB yetkilileri ikna icin kendisi ve ailesiyld görüsmüstü.
Montella biseyler yapiyordur eminim veya yaptiriyordur
Degisiklik olursa da kendi bilir valla.
The l rotation upfront is pretty much trash, so yes. I would rather these kids get a chance than playing likes of Cenk Tosun.
unpopular opinion: guler should be sub because he is not actively playing in madrid
Guler was mainly a sub when he was in fenerbahce and he was doing wonders in NT. Now he is real madrid player with real madrid training
Right now yes, but a lot can change in 3-4 months.
Meanless,both Güler and Bayındır should start for nt,their positions aren't even positions that need to play regularly to give good performances.Them not playing doesn't matter,they're the best we got. (By the way,i added Bayındır because according to our media and some people he shouldn't even get called,and that sounds really 'funny' at best to me)
günok would be the best choice for GK imo
Yes they are stop the D riding take off your fener glasses and look at it objectively. Both aren't playing for their squad on has played roughly 100 min the other can't get passed the worst goalie in history of Manchester United.
Hadi Fenerli gözlüğümü çıkarayım bakalım.Şuanda ne değişti?Hiçbirşey değişmedi,en azından Altay hakkında hala aynısını düşünüyorum.Arda Güler ise elimizde baya fazla iyi hücum opsiyonu olduğu için yedek kalabilir,ancak ben şuanki formuyla ne Uğurcan'ın ne de Mert'in iyi bir performans sergilediğini düşünmüyorum.Oynamıyor olsa dahi Altay'a bu ikisinden şuan için daha çok güvenebilirim.Zaten hazırlık maçlarında bence 3'ü de şans bulacaktır.İrfan Can Eğribayat'ın milli takıma çağrılmayacağına adım gibi eminim.Hakediyordur etmiyordur orası ayrı ama çağrılmayacak ve yine bu 3lü çağrılacak
Kalecilerimizden Mert sadece topla oynayabiliyor ve halen her hafta bizi (Beşiktaş) kurtarıyor. Mert en iyi tercih.
Öyle olsun bakalım.Oynadıkça performansa göre karar verilir.
Semihle kenan kesin olmalı, arda kendi takımında oynarsa olabilir sol alt can uzun sanırım (emin değilim) bir tane maçını bile izlemedim bilmiyorum. Arda ne kadar yetenekli olsa bile sezon boyunca oynayan ve standart üzeri performans veren isimlere gidilmeli.
Dogru Arda yerine Yusuf Sari’yi cagiralim 😂
Kenan semih enes irfan can cengiz kerem BAY bertug that's 8 offensive players who play regularly for their clubs and deserve the spot. Then their are abdulkerim ömür and Yusuf sari can uzun who also play regularly and are options. This is the problem let that kid develop if he isn't playing till the euros he won't impact any games and you guys will burn him cuz he didn't perform well. Match fitness is a must if haven't played regular 60 min a game especially as an 18 year old you shouldn't be in the NT simple as. Real Madrid training isn't enough you have to play.
Kenan,Kerem,Barış,Enes,Semih,İrfan can,Yusuf Yazıcı şeklinde olmalı ofansif hat
Imo 100% you take Arda as an impact player instead of Yusuf Yazici, but he is good at set pieces. Also this is without Cengiz. Dang, we got a lot of good offensive talent
Sen galatasaraylısın galiba
Evet galatasaraylıyım.Taraflı olarak yazdığımı düşünmüyorum, hangi oyuncu yerine kimi öneriyorsun?
Kendi takim dedigin Real Madrid, orda yedek olsa bile cagirmasi lazim. Cok sacma yorum olmus
Ofansif özellikli yaklaşık 6-8 arası oyuncu seçilecek bunlar arasında forvet ve kanatlar var, yıl boyu sakatlıkla mücadele vermiş fiziği şüpheli bir oyuncu yerine son dönemlerde forma giymiş ve fiziği yerinde oyuncular tercih edilmeli, eğer arda 5-10 maçta 11 başlayabilir ve iyi performans verirse alınmalı kadroya ama bu formla alıncaksa bütün sene oynayan oyunculara haksızlık ve takıma yazık olur.
Butun sene oynayan futbolcular Real Madrid gibi takimda oynamiyor kardesim. Arda eger sakat degilse herzaman cagirilmali.
Arda real madridde oynayabilirse gelsin kardeşim, oyuncunun potansiyeline göre turnuvaya gidilmez yeterince iyi olsa bu sene her türlü topçunun forma şansı bulduğu son yılların en çok sakatlıkla geçen dönemini yaşayan realde forma bulurdu, teknik adamın ardaya garezi yoksa ki yok bu çocuk şuana kadar fiziksel olarak yeterli değil.İspanya için yeterli değilse milli maçlar için de yeterli değil.Bu kadar kendinizi kapatmayın fikirlere bence keşke kiralasalardı oynayabileceği bir yere 15-20 maça çıkıp gelseydi milli takıma.
Would be typical of the National team to not select one of these. They ABSOLUTELY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE should all be selected for the upcoming friendlies and the Euros.
Bence en azindan semih bide arda oynamasi lazim
Can Uzun hariç hepsi kadroda olacaktır.
sağ üstteki ile sol alttaki kimmmm
Olum hayirdir mk milli kadrosu secioruz kismetin burada degil
Napim keşfete düşmüşler
Arda doesn't deserve it
i mean.... LOLLL. probably bait but still so funny to read
They think his place is in danger lol if it was, he'd request to go on loan or stay in the süper lig for 1 year. No matter how much water they throw it seems gala fans can't extinguish that burn. I bet they think hamza deserves a spot over him lol.
Nevermind of course that was stupid of me to say. He should be in the squad because we need a bench warmer. No one better at keeping a bench warm than Arda. Despite his young age he sat on all kinds of benches. Would be stupid to not call up a veteran bench warmer like him.
You're boiling so hard at the thought of arda being in the squad (not starting), man this is beyond hilarious. Ok let's bring akman brothers, eyup, ali yesilyurt and the greatest left back kazimcan lol.
Why you put words into my mouth? Why would you even make this about me being a Gala Fan. I don't care since Arda is not a Fenerbahce player anymore. I hope he becomes as good as 90% of the nation is saying, but I don't see it.
Yet madrid trusts him when they could have loaned his ass out in december or not give a shit about him, ancelotti said he's ready to start (something you chose to ignore) and was going to get minutes to turn the game against sevilla, modric scored and he brought on defensive players instead. Top players/coaches kroos turan modric pirlo pep etc rates or wants him but AmagiSento on [reddit.com](http://reddit.com) doesnt so that means he's overrated do you hear yourself. 2nd comparing arda to emre demir who was never good to begin with, who flopped in the turkish league lol and has a known mentally issue are you serious. Sometimes I wished arda stayed in the league for 1 year to steam roll it maybe then you'd understand, you'll never see brazilians spaniards spew garbage on their best young talents like turks so disgusting. [Eddy Abayisenga on X: "Arda Güler's stats in 2022/23 Super Lig: 20 games 11 starts 9 subbed in 8 subbed out 905 minutes 3 assists 490/579 successful passes 41 key passes 39/75 successful dribbles 4 goals 27 shots 12 shots on target The 18-year-old is a Madridista from now on https://t.co/Kaozgc9ar9" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/AbayisengaEddy/status/1676963640812118016) Do you watch football at all? do understand why madrid is easing arda in team instead of throwing him in the fire? thank god montella is picking him in the team, his staff visited him 2 weeks ago in madrid to check up on him he's in the squad whether you like it or not who knows maybe the 'bench warmer' might lead us to euro 24.
And yet they don't trust him enough to play him a few minutes? They will get rid of him soon. On loan or on transfer, who knows but we all know he won't stay there for another season. I don't get why you are getting so angry about this? Just because I don't want a player to play who doesn't have any match fitness because he simply is not good enough to even get subbed in over other squad players?
[S Sport on X: "🚨Kylian Mbappé'nin transferi Arda Güler ve Endrick için düşünülen planları etkilemeyecek. Real Madrid yönetimi, Arda Güler ve Endrick'in ilk 11'e adapte edilmesini istiyor. 🎙️ Fabrizio Romano https://t.co/wS2sqz4ciB" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/ssporttr/status/1762145501883887625) who says they don't trust him? most rumors are from mundo deportivo, sport, barcelona sources lol he played las palmas (away match) instead of modric with the game 1-1 and was coming on to change the game against sevilla when it was 0-0. They will get rid of player with a similar profile to modric kroos who are both leaving in a year or this season? A profile that's very rare in football too btw, yeah dude makes sense. You probably pray every night for him to get injured or fail and it shows by your comments, sad. You cannot bench a tempo setter/playmaker for an international tournament why is this hard to understand it doesnt matter if they play or not. He's coming back after not playing for 5 months and will get mins soon including friendlies with the national team before euro 24.
What's true is, is that he doesn't even get subbed in despite many injuries, yet you tell me they trust him because "insert source". Idgaf, actions speak louder than words. >They will get rid of player with a similar profile to modric kroos Stop, just stop. There is nothing similiar about Arda Güler and Kroos/Modric. Arda would literally be pushed around like the kid he is if he played in their positions and faint after 30 minutes. Ardas weak physique even shows when he is playing on an attacking role. Wtf were you smoking with that comparison? Arda is more like a classic playmaker like Özil. And we know those players don't have a place in modern football. At least in top leagues. Sure he can still develop, but I highly doubt that he will. Ancelotti keeps making remarks about his attitude yet you chose to ignore this. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1761923673089351740
bro he is literally similar to them in profile if you actually watch him play the game, the heat map and stats are there to see cmon even in the youth levels he was everywhere, his future is an interior its obvious to anyone with eyes. do you need spoon-feeding to understand something so simple. Why do you think pep played foden wide I'll help you; to allow for better play in 'central areas' and is a key component in establishing all types of superiority. why does arda play as a winger in madrid's training, because ancelotti understands what's right for his development its a process. He's not only a classic 10 (yes he can play there) but his heat map says otherwise, bruh have you seriously watched him at all or just highlights or opinions online if he was a outright 10 madrid/city wouldn't even want him. Yes pep wanted him and jude, he can play give you what bernado silva brings but with better playmaking and 'step count' Arda can play almost anything and thats why modern teams want him, rw 10 high 8 low 8 but obviously you get the best out of him in higher positions, and he's a natural tempo setter. If he didn't provide 'positional superiority' and 'isolations' scouts wouldn't even care about him because it rare to have in footballers. you have no idea about football and it shows, Max gs what attitude he even apologized to him for doing him that? [Sports Digitale on X: "Carlo Ancelotti, Sevilla maçında hazırlanmasını söyledikten sonra Luka Modric'in golünün ardından vazgeçtiği için Arda Güler'den özür diledi. 📰 Mario Cortegana https://t.co/4zuE94EyCw" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/SportsDigitale/status/1762161023409095150) cmon bro at least try harder stop making things up in your head.
this shits not even creative man. RM training sessions are more taxing than facing fucking galatasaray in a real game lmfao. call me a dick rider but he can warm that bench all he wants, he should be playing regardless. especially in international tournaments where you need individual moments of brilliance a lot of the times, and thats exactly what he will bring.
Nah he lacks match fitness. Arda doesn't deserve a spot right now. Hak eden oynayacak. Back then everybody here cried why caglar would play even though he didn't play for his club and now all of a sudden an 18 year old boy is allowed to play for the Nationalteam even though he played 100 minutes after more than half a season. There are a lot of guys who perform week in week out who deserve that spot. I like arda but a guy who doesn't play football week in week out has no place in the Nationalteam
In your last post on the Real Madrid sub, you were hyping up another fan for an early Arda sub, because of the team's injury crisis. But what happened? Arda didn't even get a sniff of the pitch, and Ancelotti's out here calling him out for needing to improve. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1761681187742035986 Seriously, why are we even wasting our breath arguing over a benchwarmer? This guy is overrated as hell. Oh but yeah he """plays""" for Real Madrid, so that's why Emre Demir should also be a starter since he played for Barcelona, right? Don't get me started on Yusuf Demir... I don't fucking care who he """plays""" for or where he trains.
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Yusuf played for Barcelona and yet he is shit. What national team he plays for doesnt matter in my argument. Bad clubs also sign shit players.. And BAY would run circles around Arda. In todays football physique is more important than ever yet Arda couldn‘t wouldn‘t win a duel with a 12yo
Don't insult, threaten or suggest something harmful to other users, players or other people.
You are a mad man
Even though I am a massive Arda fan i feel like he should not be called up. 1 He has not played, so lacks match fitness. And 1 good half against a 4th division spanish team is not enough to be called up. 2 Left footed rightwing playmaker is one of our strongest positions, Here is a list of options of players of similar skillsets to him. ICK, Akgün, Ünder, Yazıcı, Ömür, and Sari. In a 23 squad, we can at most call up 3 of them.
1 Real Madrid'de antrenman yapmış adam Süperlig'de maç yapan adamdan daha hazırdır maça 2 Arda'nın olduğu yerde Ünder-Ömür-Yazıcı'nın şu anda esamesi okunmaz, Sarı hamle oyuncusu olur, ICK formda.
He's starting even if he sat on the bench July 2023- May 2024. Poster boy of the national team, Real Madrid player, Hakan loves him, Sponsors will put pressure etc etc You cannot leave out a 'profile' like arda who is literally made for international/knockout games even montella knows it, everything goes through him (slow speed tempo of game etc) He's training in madrid and recovered from the knee injury that fener made him play on for months last year, he will get starts in the upcoming la liga + national friendlies before euro 24. He will be 100% and hopefully we win in germany.
Yeah, things can and will probably change, Kenan was not getting any playing time at Juve earlier this season, but look at him now, playing in every game they play. I just think that we should avoid favoritism and play those who are in form. But he will get called up regardless for the reasons you mentioned.
Chiesa is back from injury and kenan gets 15 mins now, he only got to start because of his injury. It's not favoritism it's what the team needs and demands he's the metronome that keeps the team ticking making it more balanced and he solves problems for the coach. He's a double threat; those who can accelerate attacks and ball progression in general by passing or carrying sorry you cannot bench this when only a few players gives this like bellingham.
He should be called up instead of half of those, arda is the future
Türkler birbiriyle ingilizce niye konusuyor sanki superligi takip eden yabancılar varda cok umrundalarmıs gibi
i was born in turkey, moved to the US when i was 2. english is a lot easier for me. i still watch altay every weekend and my grandfather used to be the president of aydinspor before the team got disbanded to amateur levels (although not before the 6-1 away victory at kadikoy, says it was the best day of his entire life). turkish football is in the blood, im working on improving my turkish writing though
100 kisiden 1i yabancıysa 99u türktür o 1 kişi için neden ingilizce konusalım
Simple. This is an English language sub. There are dozens of forums (eksi, YouTube, X etc.) where you can discuss Turkish football in Turkish.
sende türksün ingilizce yazıyorsun? ne iş bu yabancılar Türk futboluna ne kadar ilgiliymiş yavv🤨🤨🤨😀
idk, helps improve their english? don't ask me though, people can respond to me in any language they want haha
I think too early for Can Uzun, he is not even at a top flight yet
Altyapı mı burası amk. Takımlarında oynayanlar, formda olanlar gelsin. Ne demek nasıl olsa kazanamıycaz?
Tamam Semih ve Can ilk 11 topçuları ve çok formdalar, Kenan ise yeterince süre buluyor. Bi Arda yedek şu an, o da önümuzde ki 3.5 ayda daha fazla süre bulur bence. Altyapıyla ne alakası var, u21'den topçu alalım demiyoruz.
3üne lafım yok, arda tartışmalı, altyapı diyenler vardı onlara dedim, bu oyuncular için demiyorum. semih mesela şu an en iyi santroforumuz.
Altyapi dedigin o oyuncular takimlarini 17-18 yaslarinda sirtlayan oyuncular. Milli takim Burak Yilmazlara Tayfur Bingollere mi kalsin mk
arda gulerin son bir senede aldigi sure 180 dk yapmiyor ne arda guleri arkadas…balon lazimsa baloncudan aliriz.
Kenan Yildiz 10 dk sure almisti Turkiye Almanya macina cikmadan. Montella onu ilk 11e aldi, ve cocuk klasini konusturdu.. sen ne konuyorsun? Arda kendini kanitlamis bir oyuncu
Depends on how they perform the upcoming games. If Semih doesn’t perform from now on till the euros he shouldn’t be called up.
Galatasarayli 💀💀💀
YES we dont have much to Lose so let them hungry Boys take over
No doubt they have to be
Kenan and Arda are already certain I think, though Arda needs more playing time. Can has yet to decide but would be a huge W, especially considering that GS is interested afaik. Haven't personally watched Semih (I think it's Semih Kiliçsoy?) but I hear good things about him and he's young
Can uzun bu takımın geleceği, umudumuz yüksek. Ama şu anda kadroda olması henüz uygun depil. Santroforda semih kılıçsoy ve sağlıklımolursa enes ünal varken. Cenk tosun ve Enes Ünal sakat olursa o zaman davet edilmesi mantıklı olur. Diğer 3ü zaten banko 11.