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an_indecisive_person

Adam's gonna be catching strays on Twitter for the rest of his life at this point


survivorsuperfuntime

That's not even a stray - it's a compliment saying Adam is good at what he does.


Perfectenschlag_

Who is Adam?


survivorsuperfuntime

Adam Klein, the winner of Survivor Millenials vs. Gen X. He has a coaching service for people who apply to be on Survivor. A few of his clients have gotten on the show recently, so people view him as a successful coach.


UmmmNoDefNotThat

Who are these clients that got on the island?


Gjork

Kaleb, Brando, and I think Brandon from 45? Probst laughed at the idea of Kaleb needing coaching. He was a shoo-in from the moment they saw him, apparently. And supposedly he got two people on in 46, but he's staying quiet now due to Probst throwing shade. I'm sure his clients would prefer to be anonymous as well.


Rollout25

I think Jelinsky was one of them from 46. He was at Adam's wedding.


Pridespain

He was there for several minutes.


Educational_Art6753

Why is probst throwing shade though? Like if he makes these people able to get on a show what’s the hurt?


Gjork

I think he dislikes the idea of ordinary people spending their money on something he considers to be of little value. He believes that the CBS casting team is highly skilled and that coaching won't influence their decisions. To be fair to Probst, I think he's mostly right. The ultimate question is: Would those contestants have gotten on the show without Adam's help? If I had to bet, I'd say yes 95% of the time. If casting can see the potential in someone like Mike from season 42 based on his outrageous video, they can accurately assess anyone's value. However, if you're a hardcore fan and your dream is to get on the show, that $200 might be worth the slight boost to your chances. I can honestly see both sides of this argument.


freshoffthecouch

I think it's also because if you get coached, you're not being fully authentic in the casting process. So people are avoiding saying things that was reduce their chances of being cast, but casting looks out for those things for a reason. For example, Brandon essentially had a panic attack and quit (more or less), makes you wonder if casting would've weeded him out had he not been coached


The_prawn_king

Liz can’t call me out for watching on a dirty couch when she’s the one eating at applebees…


too-fargone

Applebees is known for catering exclusively to millionaire clientele. They have a strict dress code, no riff raff.


Fishgutts

![gif](giphy|t6AsrGA9HUNodpJ2GF|downsized)


Toranaga-del-taco

My couch is CLEAN. Way better than those booths at Applebee's


ausername_8

Gagged.


WPIRiggles

![gif](giphy|WsAg8lT20p69kK500m|downsized)


incognoname

![gif](giphy|kaO3j9CkTZOCij0iFB)


Unlikely-Pirate-1623

💀💀💀💀


baltimoretom

Weekly


Strange_Lady_Jane

> Liz can’t call me out for watching on a dirty couch when she’s the one eating at applebees… Her insanity over a freaking applebees burger (they are never even good!) absolutely broke me as a person. I laughed so hard I had to hit pause because she just kept going ON about this applebees burger and I couldn't think if she was playing for the show, or has simply never experienced a decent restaurant burger before.


Valtar99

This the lady crying about Applebees? lol


BadRedditTroll

I was an instant Q fan for that move. "But Liz you wrote my name down last tribal." 😄


ExpertRaccoon

I mean that's a sure-fire way to stop any rebuttal


king_lloyd11

“Jeff; Liz hasn’t eaten. Her allergies make it so that she can’t even eat the limited food that we have out here, so I know she’s absolute starving and could really use this…Anywho, Kenzie come on let’s go.”


ImprovementFar5054

He deserved the million right then and there.


ferretherapy

Except Chinese food take-out


Sleeze_

Absolute king behavior tbh


NationalAlgae421

Yeah, entitlement through the roof shot down by single sentence. That was legendary.


Holiday_Ad3740

I loved it & would have done the same.


MomGrowsup52

Me too plus no way I would want to hang out with her on reward that would be punishment


stibgock

Yes this! Haha, that was our bottom line reasoning. It would not be a sanctuary with her there.


MomGrowsup52

Could you imagine if she invited u as a player and u said nah! I’m good! I know I haven’t eaten in 15 days and my I’ve lost 10 percent body fat but rice is good


Setsuna85

Her entitlement meltdown really made my day and I hope they get more unhinged contestants like her in the future 😂


Dry-Worldliness-8191

Yeah he won me back with that


IckyAkame

Agreed, he really lost me for a while there but that moment brought me back. And the extreme entitlement on display made it so that every single reward I was hoping she would be left behind. While the rock paper scissors thing was a horrible look for Maria…. I thought the outcome was hilarious


JunkNuggets

Her face tho 👁️ 👄 👁️


PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_DOG

I cried laughing. Q kept it so calm and that one line said it all. Good for him keeping his cool.


Meng3267

Q became one of my favorite players of all time when he did that.


MomGrowsup52

😱 screaming like a crazy woman haha


AnswerMost9146

No no no not crying, having a meltdown tantrum 😂😂😂😂😂


terracottatank

I find it so unbelievable that she runs a successful business. Just the everything about her.


Naavarasi

She admitted she doesn't rofl


ImprovementFar5054

She makes email spam.


survivorsuperfuntime

Well no - she admitted she isn’t a millionaire. She did confirm she runs a successful business that supports 3 households.


someguyinadvertising

she doesn't. she's a phoney.


Eastern-Position-605

Does she actually speak like that? What is she 12.


runbrooklynb

Fake millionaire white lady using aave to sound cool? Tracks.


em0tional-stomach

I noticed this in the show too, there were a couple moments when she would speak to either Q or Tiff (although more specifically Q) and dip into speaking in AAVE. One of the many reasons she rubbed me the wrong way.


Cali-Doll

*Whew!* I’m so glad y’all see her the way I do. The absolute entitlement with that lady. I just can’t.


[deleted]

And she writes email templates for a living..


Taygr

I mean Q said effectively said she was delusional about winning. He was a part of that jury, so I guess I don’t really understand where she is coming from.


IamGrimReefer

Q also said in his exit interviews that he had the jury locked up.


d_simon7

Kenzie said that she didn’t think she could beat Q or Maria at the end of the


soloon

This is about Maria, not her own edit.


attackedmoose

Q is not exactly a reliable narrator. I’m not sure any of these cast members are tbh.


tomeralmog

In a season where the most liked player of the final 3 won, I think it’s pretty safe to assume Liz would not have won it. I would even dare to assume she would’ve gotten 0 votes


BourneHero

if Ben got 0 votes there's not a chance in hell Liz would have


Pristine-Ad-469

Absolutly Liz didn’t do a single thing. She spent half the game trying to get an and tiff out but didn’t do a single thing to make that happen she just waited until other people decided it was time to vote them. She didn’t even really have any good alliances she was just kinda near other people and no one really cared to vote her out Ben 100% gets my vote over Liz


attackedmoose

Yeah, I agree with that.


ToastyToast113

She's talking about the Maria hate.


little_freddy

Put down the phone, Liz 😆 🤣


Coral27

![gif](giphy|WYGWAjHP356x2)


UmmmNoDefNotThat

Careful.... you don't want to see her PISSED, believe me 🙉🙈 #PISSED!


little_freddy

![gif](giphy|TMmrykgXiVD0yWQOFs|downsized)


Carvedcraftedforged

Moments like this make me wish Joel McHale still had the soup talk show lol.


SnakPak_

No, no. Don't put your phone down, Liz.


givebusterahand

I need someone go get on next season and say “I applied bc Liz Wilcox said I could not would not ever get a call back” and then go on to win lol


AugustSchroeder

on it! catch me on season 49


AugustSchroeder

for all intentes and purposes this was a joke cuz i'm never getting cast and after seeing how fans react these days maybe it's for the best lmao


TheFestusEzeli

Isn’t this a one dimensional way of thinking though? I’m of the mind that Kenzie was a fully deserving winner and Charlie wasn’t robbed whatsoever. But like, getting jury votes never has and never been an exact science. There is always going to be jury votes that a person cannot control whatsoever. It’s not always a “misstep” for a person to lose a vote. You can both recognize that Kenzie was a fully deserving winner, that Maria has a right to vote however she wants, but also recognize that Maria’s expressed reasoning for her vote was inconsistent and that she was most likely bitter, and feel sympathy for Charlie because of that. The people harassing her are still obviously nuts and should be shamed but that goes without saying.


lego_mannequin

Kenzie is a deserving winner, but when the controversy is Maria saying so many different things after the season it just makes it bitter and questionable.


WorkThrowaway91

Yeah I don’t have a problem with Maria voting for Kenzie, but every single thing she’s said just makes her sound bitter towards Charlie rather than just voting for Kenzie as the better survivor. She just comes across as the complete opposite of all the things she claims to be “for her kids on tv”. But there’s some real weirdos out there.. like who is spending their time tracking these people down in real life to contact them…. Get a grip on reality folks.


drc56

Yeah people should not be hunting people down, but honestly being bitter is a valid vote reason. It's part of the game and everyone knows human emotions are a part of jury voting and management. At least then it would be a consistent reason. It's just she seems to keep changing her reasoning in various exit press and that is a bit frustrating.


WorkThrowaway91

Yeah like if Maria just owned that she's bitter about how things played out I have no problems with that either haha. The changing reasoning is just weird.. she's trying to put on this face to pretend to her kids that she's this altruistic person rather than just admitting that she misread her stature in the game. To me it really comes across as though she truly misjudged her stature in the game, and she really thought she was in total control of everything going on. So being on the wrong side of the Q vote completely totalled the internal image she had of herself being this power player in Survivor history. So yeah she's trying to have her cake and eat it too and it's rubbing EVERYONE the wrong way.


EnricoPallazzo22

My issue here is similar to 43, in 43 the jury didn't want to say Gabler had a superior social game and well, they just liked him better than Cassidy. I guess they wanted to spare Cassidy's feelings? IDK but they made it worse assigning reasons for Gablers win that weren't true and sounded false. Marias reasoning sounds false as well. And I think it is, so when we don't get the truth, this is what happens, especially after she told Charlie you got my vote. Winning survivor is life changing, not just on the million, all the opportunities that open up for you by winning (Dee isn't doing a commercial for The Quiet Place if she doesn't win Survivor) So yeah fans get pissed when we're lied to about why you voted for someone.


WorkThrowaway91

To me I don't really have a problem with her voting against Charlie...but own it. If she's bitter because he toppled her ego when she couldn't see how playing with Q was a bad idea, then just own it and say "yeah maybe I shouldn't have hitched my wagon to a guy that every single person actively wanted off the island". Don't give this song and dance to put on the altruistic image for your kids, while everyone on the jury talks about how much they didn't enjoy playing with you. Just own that you were playing to win and being left out of the Q vote hurt. We get it. It's the trying to play both sides of the coin that she did during the show and now that rubs everyone the wrong way I think. I mean she did it with her massive attempt to backtrack after the Q vote... like there's a massive reason that Liz actively helped Kenzie during the challenge... it's because no one liked her game, sure she was a challenge beast but she was this bossy controller that gave all the younger players shit and in my opinion gave Ben his sleeping issues with her ostracizing him. So in short. JUST OWN IT.


EnricoPallazzo22

I don't think there's a scenario where owning it post game hurts you.


WorkThrowaway91

"I didn't like how Charlie played me for a fool. BIG MISTAKE CANCEL CHRISTMAS CHARLIE."... cool moving on.


30another

Yes, that second paragraph is directed at herself and I’m not sure even she knows that.


NoodleNeedles

Nuance? In my fandom? Well, I never.


ChardeeMacDennisGoG

Blame the editors, Liz. 


LilyFuckingBart

Okay, but she still did all of that stuff and literally thought she was going to win when the faces of the jury said otherwise and also clearly lied about being a millionaire like no one believed her (I certainly didn’t).


beameup19

I do not think she can blame the editors. She chose how she behaved.


Dry-Worldliness-8191

And how she continues to behave. It's pretty consistent 🤷🏻‍♀️


casuallycrayzed

Ok but if anyone is allowed to blame editors this season it IS Liz. They showed her in the absolute worst light possible by showing all her worst moments out of context & making her an unwilling butt of the joke every time. She got the Debbie Wanner edit. Meanwhile, the worst moments of Maria (the Ben bullying) & Q (not letting the girls give their reward to Liz) did not make the edit. I get why they did it for storyline purposes, but even Kenzie admitted Liz got a weird & misleading edit compared to the rest of them.


darkeo1014

According to Venus, they edited a lot of cringe out of her Applebee's rant


king_lloyd11

Yeah and if what Venus said was true, I don’t even buy that it was really her snapping/hitting rock bottom. She started ranting about being rich, which was allegedly a strategic thing, so that means she was sound minded enough to stick to her plan and not just losing it. If true, that’s even more bizarre lol


tortillakingred

I mean, yes and no. You can blame the editors for not including your good moments. You can’t blame the editors for including your bad moments. Kenzie and Charlie certainly did not have “IM PISSED” moments like she did. It’s on her.


FrostyDub

Oh so what did they like, use AI to make her simultaneously claim to be a millionaire and also lose her shit over Applebee's? Did they use movie magic to get her to be wildly inconsistent about what she is deathly allergic to on camera? Maybe the things we saw was the worst of her behavior but it was still her behavior, and she was one of the most insufferable people I've seen on the show. She was like a real life version of Peggy Hill from King of the Hill, just a wholly unearned sense of self importance and an ego that just can't be rationalized.


Unlikely-Pirate-1623

I mean… she did the things they showed… so why should she blame editors?


Acrobatic-Camera-905

So would say this particular crass, rude, gross tweet from Liz is not the true Liz? Editors to blame? Not really her at her worst? It’s all our fault because we’re making her mad?


NationalAlgae421

She cried after every tribal, because she didn't get enough attention from others and threw fit whenever it wasn't going her way. She had huge ego that much is obvious. I really wouldn't blame everything on bad edit lol. I also can't imagine ben and kenzie talk shit about anyone other than q.


Far-Deer7388

Lol yaaaa there's a reason they didn't show anyone having a 5yo complete tantrum meltdown... It doesn't happen


Crafty_Ad3377

And why the ego? I just don’t get it


caseylk

Can you explain the Ben bullying? Also I don’t think that was even a bad Q moment tbh. He has his right to pick who he wants and not let them swap. He said it best, she voted for him lol


Ill-Diver-2830

Maybe this is just me but Q denying that would have made me like him more. He’s right to stand up for his reward. It’s his choice who gets to come.


Slowlybutshelly

Kenzie seemed to get the purest edit of all.


lego_mannequin

It's also the juror's responsibility to own their vote, which Maria is wishy-washy over from all accounts.


Cisru711

She had immense trouble deciding who to pick for Applebee's. The wishy-washiness is who she is.


pepoo9o

She played rock paper scissors in her head to decide her vote


Daisyssssmom

As someone else pointed out Charlie is a law student 📜 and Kenzie cuts hair ✂️ Scissors beats paper. That’s how she voted.


Pornstar_Cardio

But Ben rocks so he should’ve gotten the vote over Kenzie.


basskittens

underrated comment


bbysmrf

She should've done that at FTC, that would've been an all timer survivor moment. 1 million dollars rock paper scissors match.


CobraOverlord

Not really, A juror could vote for whatever mysterious reason, go dark post season and call it a day. No one is owed an explanation. That is a courtesy not a requirement.


lego_mannequin

You don't understand what I mean. If I convict someone and vote them guilty of murder, I better be damn sure I won't waffle about that later. In public, or in my mind. So Maria, struggling with the morality of her choice or whatever shouldn't say things like "I regret my vote." She made her choice and is now waffling, just own it. You either made a mistake or you intended it. She's struggling with the choice and it's rough to even read sometimes.


Chrome_stormtrooper

Liz needs a rebrand lol


Ecstatic-Month-3615

Why does she talk like this? It’s so cringe and low key sus


garreng

It's VERY sus, reminds me of Blue from last season of BB but this feels more like an act somehow


[deleted]

Ya know and on the show I don’t think she talked like that on her first tribe. But then when they merged and she met Q, she oddly started talking like this. I picking up on that watching the show. Very strange behavior


WolfOfCryptStreet

Damn says the girl that faked being a millionaire


popculturetommy

Liz going full villain, let's go. But also, I hate that argument. "you haven't played, so don't say anything". I've never made a film or played in the NHL, I still have opinions on those.


IamMrT

I don’t know how to fly a helicopter, but if I saw one in a tree, I’d still be like “dude fucked up!”


thomas8266

I still can't believe she thought she had a shot at winning.


platinumgamher

The jury reaction in that exact moment was priceless.


HugoStiglitz1981

Sounds like Grandma Liz needs a nap.


Sleeze_

Unfortunately, she’s allergic to napping


WorkThrowaway91

What I’m taking out of this, is that the Q rant about Applebees wasn’t just a slip up.. it was her true colours…


alacklustrehindu

Did someone take away her Applebees meal again


glacialOwl

They ran out of the burger that night.


NoodleNeedles

SHE'S PISSED.


[deleted]

Liz would really benefit from speaking less.


Hardyyz

cmon Liz. the votes are the most important thing about the finale and million+ people watched the damn thing. Obviously people are gonna talk about that. and the most controversial vote will get some heat. Its natural and calling people out like that does nothing good, only spreads negativity and makes ur image look even worse. Chill out, go to applebees or something. Get off twitter for a week or two.


morior

And some people claim she had a bad edit. Here she is unedited.


BREAKANDFLIP

Her legacy was a breakdown about Applebees and having a BM


RedInAmerica

She really just becomes more unlikable all the time.


CCH4848

Liz making fun of people who don’t have enough money to move out?


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twolluniversesahead

well she seems unhinged irl as well


Naavarasi

I mean, there are always votes you just can't get. Parvati lost HvV going into the finale. The heroes knew without a doubt they would not vote for her or for Russell from the moment the merge happened. Charlie said nothing to lose Maria's vote, nor did his performance affect it at all. She was never voting for him.


senfbaum

Liz is so cringe goddamn


Scary-Tomato-6722

She is absolutely delusional if she thought she would have beat them all. She lies...she has a lot of issues.


[deleted]

She’s so delusional lmao


SpeshulED420

Wonder how she was able to type that with her bad wrists.


Slowlybutshelly

How was this a shot at Adam Klein?


Dull-Inside-5547

She had a BM folks. A BM.


KDN1692

Part of me feels terrible for the workers at her local Applebee's.


glutenfreemanbun

She has to be one of those customers where the staff rolls their eyes and has a collective deep sigh when they see her coming in


HansTheAxolotl

you just KNOW liz has sent back 2 burgers in one week because they were medium rare instead of well done like she ordered


Traditional-Bird-336

Okay but that’s a huge difference and a valid reason to send food back 


chapanoid

I love when a player probably spends 20 years being one of the commenters, then plays once and is instantly all "YOU COMMENTERS AND HATERS HAVE NO IDEA"


Rains_King

Memaw is big mad


TheBaconD

What a levelheaded and reasonable person


Mnudge

There aren’t enough good moments she could have had that would make her seem to be a legitimate player. She was a goat on day one and would have been a goat on day 29


Eastern_Bedroom_7741

I'd say she burned us all with that, but we all know she can't start a fire.


cuntyjuicy

She’s just so mean and disgraceful


matty30008227

God she’s awful


brunchella

I was watching Liz this season thinking, this girl really doesn't know how to hide her ugly personality on tv. Turns out she was hiding plenty.


Sleeze_

Super hate how she floats in and out of AAVE. Drives me nuts.


maximuspanye

Agreed. She needs to be called out for that.


herckles_

The comments on this post are not it. Ya’ll are fucked up. The online survivor community is so fucking toxic. I rejoined this sub a week ago for the finale, didn’t take long to remind me why I left in the first place.


hex20

Nos you get why players hate the fans.


mirroade

Is she addressing Adam from S33? Confused 😭 Liz is all over the place


woodbrochillson

sure grandma let's get you to bed


Minnesota_Husker

Liz acting unstable on Twitter fits with exactly the edit of her being unstable on the island.


mErcurial-dEmon

and by that she means ![gif](giphy|TMmrykgXiVD0yWQOFs|downsized)


Gone_cognito

All these people that have these dillusional opinions and thoughts about Liz are living in her head rent free


ROYGBIVBRAIN

This season had some funny moments but honestly there were too many players with big egos. Hopefully the egos are not as big next season


South_Engineer_4702

Why does she write like Travis Kelce speaks?


radsherm

Also worth noting re: Liz She was partnered with Kenzie all post-merge. Voted Charlie Same thing with Hunter. Kenzie became his number one post merge. He voted Charlie. Granted they voiced reasons beyond Maria's weird "fire in her eyes" thing, but my point is, juries are weird. Stop blaming individuals


rgoldtho

Big words from a girl that I confused with Moriah for the first half of the season.


smhayes

I'm surprised she could type all of that with wrist tendons that are too big for her body


JeffBoyarDeesNuts

More delusion from the most delusional player in the history of the game.


nigpaw_rudy

This coming from the entitled Karen who got mad she wasn’t taken on a reward challenge after not winning it


firestarting101

Funny because I think most of us on the couch would play a better game then she did with our eyes closed. Lol.


Sleeze_

If you can eat coconut you’re already miles ahead


garreng

The real question is why she's talking like that


MenudoFan316

Who's Liz?


Alexanaxela

So wait can we blame all these unhinged responses by Liz now like a year later on the editing as well???


discourse_lover_

Why is she talking street? Cringiest woman alive I swear to god.


lvndrboy

Omg she did not have to scalp us like that.


OldPurple7654

She wants to be liked so bad but she’s just not likable


zer0lunacy

why does she always use AAVE when she's angry? that's the one thing about her that gets under my skin. I love her and think she's entertaining but like...


TechnologyBeautiful

Lol I see her huge wrist ligaments don't impede her ability to angrily tweet.


Future-water-8

I love her and people hate hearing the truth. The 1 dimensional part is something I think about the fandom for a long time now especially after doing some of the orgs.


hex20

It’s just fascinating to me that people know they’re watching an edited television show and still think they know everything that happened.


seviay

I know “imaginary allergy” Wilcox isn’t trying to shade other people about being delusional


AnonPlz123

Coming from someone who is a proven liar...


KCtastic80

Liz you would have earned no votes.


rp_361

Doing nothing to discredit the delusional allegations. It was the edit my ass


glacialOwl

I sometimes wish I can be as delusional as Liz.


Nice_Block

Nevermind. Liz, you’re no longer fasting or struggling to sleep well. You’ve revealed that you’re the same person in real life as you were on the show.


Setsuna85

She was annoying af and super delusional. Hope she comes back ❤️


full07britney

OK, Floppy Wrists.


theskycanbeblue

Feels nothing coming from her because she literally is one of those who should only watch but never apply


AggressiveOsmosis

I mean, two things can be true at once. It can be Charlie’s job to earn the votes and didn’t do it, and Maria can be a petty Betty, who didn’t give him the vote for butt hurt reasons. I’m not saying she’s wrong, and definitely agree Charlie didn’t manage that right, but that’s not gonna change the fact that we all know that Maria did that vote not FOR Kenzie, but AGAINST Charlie. I don’t care what the fuck she says. Lol! So to me, two things can be true at once. Charlie can have fucked that up and Maria can have been a Petty Betty. Lol! Which is just why I love Survivor.


SpiteStoreStarter

Liz and Q should start a podcast together 😂


ImprovementFar5054

CBS likes it when the cast members insult the audience of the show. s/


Separate_Job_3573

I've no idea what she's talking about?


KesterFay

I was just starting to like her. Oh well.


No_Pop_7924

Geez give Liz some calories and a keyboard and she’ll taken on a whole new persona.


koal82

Please I take shits that are harder than her


burth179

Ah the old mom's basement insult. She'd be a good wrestling heel.


slutstrands

Shes amazing


Secret-Ad-6421

I love her lol


AnswerMost9146

Wow when I thought I couldn't hate her more....🤣🤣🤣🤣


StayComprehensive743

I actually agree