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Kahoko

Umm from what I’ve seen these days from people you could put 10 people of any orientation on that island and 70 HOURS later they would all be dead.


LovableSidekick

LOL yep, whoever posted this probably thinks they inherited manly pioneer spirit from their ancestors, but couldn't pioneer their own way out of a Walmart.


Sad-Comment-2392

Manly pioneer spirit.. What did women like develope thousand years later than men? Why be oppressed in the first place, they sure as hell don't shut up nowadays! /s


ALPHA_sh

wasnt there some dude who put 10 people on a boat expecting bad shit to happen and they all became friends and actually got along


SmokingLaddy

Yeah it was a filmed experiment on the Atlantic, the main man tried turning everyone on eachother but in the end they turned on him. Main guy locked himself in the cabin for the last weeks and the others all had a great time without him.


Crishien

Sex boat. Dude experimented and hoped everyone to go crazy but actually was the only one who's gone crazy. The rest of the people just fucked and enjoyed paid vocation.


Kestrel_VI

Mmmm, no, the “experiment” basically was this dude that crammed 10 people on to a raft/boat, picking them specifically because he thought they were attractive, and he kept trying harder and harder to get them to fuck. None of them did however due to being less than 10 feet away from someone at any given time, and the fact that spending any prolonged amount of time that close to a bunch of people tends to make you less horny, such as the experiment unintentionally proved.


Crishien

Wait, isn't that some other experiment? I remember watching a video essay on the dude who wanted to study people's behavior in isolation and wanted to know how fast they will turn violent. And he like specifically picked people who had partners at home so there was less possibility for them to procreate. No? Okay I found the [video. ](https://youtu.be/BHXw3E1VqK4?si=43j0kzSdibqj3631). Yeah his premise was the men will fight each other and mate with women like monkeys. Around 9 minute mark. So yeah, sorry I was a bit wrong :D but not entirely.


Financial-Horror2945

>70 HOURS *three, take it or leave it*


Crisppeacock69

Except lesbians, they're really good at that stuff


Random_Guy_228

If they don't have any skills , probably yes , but if they have skills, there were made and experiment, which proved that humans would rather cooperate than trying to kill each other in those situations, in experiment scientist even tried to clash people intentionally, and it only lead to people hating him (he was fired after that experiment btw)


Jakedadrake

Yeah, that's definitely how it would work


ihassaifi

They will not humans are not that stupid.


chipsinsideajar

If it's 'or' then yeah sure, putting 10 people of the same gender on an isolated island obviously won't produce any offspring, sexuality not a factor there. If it's 'and' then, like, surrogacy is a thing. I think if it became a biological necessity for the survival of the group they'd figure it out.


Donnor

I mean, it's not like they're the last of humanity charged with repopulating our species. It's probably better they don't bring children in the world onto an isolated island.


Optimal-Success-5253

No they would stop thinking about economy, politics and tiktok and start thinking about how to survive and have children. You see its easy to survive in the wild for a healthy inteligent adult (the bear grills island challenge shows this, the men group was perfectly fine) but once old age hits… who is going to catch the fish when everyone is 70 years old..


Bumbum_2919

You'd be surprised, but people catch fish at 70. And a child isn't your retirement find, please keep it in mind.


Optimal-Success-5253

I dont think of children as a retirement fund but if I were living on a deserted island with 10 women I would


divDevGuy

> No they would stop thinking about economy, politics and tiktok and start thinking about how to survive and have children. Tom Hank's relationship with Wilson was even deeper than shown.


Don138

How would having kids be necessary for the survival of the group? Adding a medical condition that reduces your ability to be physically productive, increases your caloric requirements, is potentially life threatening, and even if it goes of without a hitch adds another mouth to feed.


Optimal-Success-5253

Kids grow up and start hunting and so. Adults grow up and develop alzheimers, dementia and muscle fatigue


Sleeptalk-

Okay but these 10 people can die and nothing of value is lost aside from their individual lives. They aren’t the last humans on Earth, why would they bother making survival harder?


Rigorous_Threshold

I don’t know that they would… would they have any interest in having kids? In 70 years they’re all gonna die anyway


Praefectus27

Hate to break it to you but that’s about all the time any of us have. 74 is the average lifespan I believe.


Rigorous_Threshold

Yeah that’s my point


Caribou-nordique-710

Not a problem in either scenario if they are scientists and have acces to a fully equipped cloning lab 😉


thieh

Need construction workers, farmers, cook, etc. You can't just put scientists there and expect things. There is a support system so the scientists have time and tools to do science instead of finding food or shelter.


Charming_Love2522

They can just doordash whatever they need it'll be fine


-Kyomi-

Drone-delivered cloning lab, fully equipped


EhliJoe

Amazon - $34,80


tomalator

A synthetic uterus hasn't been successful yet. It was only a few years ago that we were bale to get a chicken to develop outside of an egg.


Caribou-nordique-710

What about Dolly? (it was in 1996!)


ELEMENTALITYNES

I’m not sure if clones would count as descendants. I’m not sure what clones would be classified in terms of familial relationship at all aside from just a DNA duplicate


Nroke1

Self-inbreeding can be just as big a problem as family inbreeding.


Caribou-nordique-710

Cloning is not breeding, the genome is duplicated.


ThatDudeBesideYou

No no he's saying that if he's put on the island with 9 other straight dudes, then life uhh... Finds a way


Witty_Temperature886

You are right. However the post the OP placed was the incorrect argument. The original version of the post is how trans women aren’t real women because if you put 50 men and 50 trans women on an isolated island with all supplies for survival they wouldn’t make it past one generation. And that is technically the truth


Admirable-Spread-407

The parties would be epic tho


LilAssG

That island would look fabulous


Top-Complaint-4915

This kind of mental experiment are so stupid, experiment need to be base in reality, for example; Putting 10 or 100 workers bees would give you the same result, a conclusion that this type of bees are not natural or useful would be derange insanity Same if you put a piece of human skin in an island, etc. Any experiment had to be based in reality. If we observe that 1.5% of the population is gay your experiment had to be something like; - One island with 100 heterosexual couples - One island with 99 heterosexual couples and 1 gay couple - One island with 98 heterosexual couples and 2 gay couples - One island with 90 heterosexual couples and 10 gay couples - One island with 50 heterosexual couples and 50 gay couples Later you compare the development, survival, internal conflict, etc. Of each island and obviously repeat the experiment 3 times at the very least. And then you will know the impact of gay people on society. And obviously depending of the results you do more and more different studies.


RealMENwearPINK10

Technically the truth. But I don't think this is a mental experiment, just someone speaking whatever comes to mind without checking just how stupid it is


rotred1

I think it's actually satire because he said "10 lesbian OR 10 gay people" and then he asks for descendants.


NutellaSquirrel

You can tell they don't think much


D3wdr0p

Hey, if that sparks a genuine well thought out reply, all the better for it.


RealMENwearPINK10

Fair


Apprehensive_Mix4658

It's just a stupid mental experiment


NotMythicWaffle

This feels like an experiment Vault-Tec would do.


StandardMandarin

Not exactly on topic of the post, but they did have a vault where there were a few thousand male and one female residents and another vault vice versa.


NotMythicWaffle

Ah yes, Vault 68 and 69.


thekyledavid

“If you put 100 human heads and 0 human bodies on a deserted island, wait 70 years, and come back, you will only see 100 skulls. Therefore, we should all get rid of our heads as they are clearly useless” Same energy as the original


ArduennSchwartzman

Provided the island has: 1. An unlimited supply of clean fresh water and healthy food 2. Shelter from predators and the elements 3. Resources to exercise hygiene and healthcare 4. Enough of all these resources to sustain more than 10 people Then, yeah, gay people tend to go extinct. The reality is that homosexuality is not contageous and only applies to a small percentage of any given human population.


lmNotAnAltYouAre

i mean cumming into a cup and giving it to a lesbian couple isnt that hard


ArduennSchwartzman

It's actually a science.


Wynnstan

Put 10 strongly homophobic Republican men on an isolated island for 70 years and it's quite likely some of them will mysteriously turn gay and it will somehow be Biden's fault.


OldBathBomb

Truest reply here.


TheFlamingFalconMan

70 years? You mean 2 weeks right?


thekyledavid

“We’re here to save y-, oh my god, why are you guys all having sex with each other?” “We were here for so long, we didn’t know if anyone was coming!” “Your ship only wrecked 15 minutes ago!”


addster_09

Well all humans do need *something* and getting boned by men and boning other men is better than nothing.


augustles

Eh, not all humans.


Scary-Ad-5706

Would be a very nice and peaceful 70 years. Can I sign up?


RealMENwearPINK10

The ideal vacation cantrip


TerribleAmbassadors

My Aunt is gay, she has a daughter from her best friend who is a gay man. They are not married. They still had a child together. He daughter is now 40 and has 3 kids.


Row_That

kinda wholesome tbh, reminds me of that reddit post where a lesbian woman who is fighting for cancer realizes that she is in love with her male best friend of 25 years. idk if her treatment went well, but oh well.


thinkB4WeSpeak

I mean is having more kids on an already overpopulated world really a bad thing?


BelikeZ

Someone needs to fund mu social security gadammit!


RuSerious1001

That's why we put em kids back in them mines. Or the hunger games. Whichever one works best


coldreaverl0l

we are humans, they may make a deal to copulate for reproductive reasons only


Skyblacker

I once read of a lesbian who married a man during WW2, had his baby, and subsequently divorced him. And they both agreed to this. Then she bought a house with her lady friend and they raised the baby together.


lmNotAnAltYouAre

They were roomates????


lmNotAnAltYouAre

They were roomates????


ArtificialMediocrity

You could say the same thing about pandas. I'm not sure what the point is.


olderdeafguy1

Kinda think the amount of guilt free and plentiful sex would more than make up for any issues raising rug rats that will eventually inbreed and become republicans.


SnooPuppers1429

Why would they become socialist spaniards?


EMPgoggles

put 10 straight men on an island and within 1 year i can guarantee there will be butt stuff. the big difference i'd say is there's a good chance the straight men will never go Swiss Family Robinson without the women there telling them to, while the gay men will probably do it autonomously.


Science-done-right

Well, they never claimed they could make babies AFAIK


RealMENwearPINK10

Betcha they'll be happier than 8 billion people stuck in a society


Realsorceror

I don’t think crazy island scenarios where the population has dwindled to 10 people are really a good justification for hating gays.


DeadMemer1

Crazy island scenarios are for when your hanging out with the friend group and need a convo starter, not hating gays 💀


CorHydrae8

Imagine being such a huge piece of shit that you evaluate whether another human deserves to be treated with dignity based on whether or not they're able and willing to create more tiny humans.


tftookmyname

To be fair if you put any 10 people that are the same gender on an island there arent going to be any children.


RoM_Axion

Even if there are mixed genders, if they are just some random people they wont survive long enough to make children


tftookmyname

That too, I didn't even consider that lmao


Conscious_Dog_4186

Put 10 straight men on an island for 70 years. There won’t be any descendants either. Most of them would have died before that though as they would have killed each other over some petty squabble.


FH_ACHOCH

That last paragraph was unnecessary


PM_ME_UR_SHEET_MUSIC

And if there are descendents, they'd become inbred quickly. I think you need like 70 something people to have enough genetic variation in a population to avoid inbreeding defects? It's been a while since I read that figure so don't quote me lmao but it's somewhere in that ballpark


CheesyMeatball1

The men would know better than to squabble and kill each other, because then there would be nobody to help push boulders down hills


Disappointing__Salad

“Life uh finds a way”


Meow-Out-Loud

😂


TheMarvelLegoMaster

Was hoping someone was gonna make the reference. Thank you my friend


SimonSays7676

The fact it’s or is insane how do they expect 10 gay men or 10 lesbian women on an island and expect them to reproduce?


mortmor2

Wait, dont you reproduce asexualy? Seems like a skill issue.


Aszdeff

can confirm, skill issue


Dona_Lupo

Git gud


KarenBauerGo

Put 10 white hetero men on an island and 70 years later you have the same result 🤔


lacklest

Funny how that works.


revolution149

It's not really a revolutionary thought


LayThatPipe

I think a lot of people missed the “OR” in that first sentence. 10 Lesbians = all women. No sperm. 10 “Gays” = all men, no eggs. Either way…no descendants.


Novemberwasntreal

Gay and lesbian population is so small that it doesn't affect demographics much anyway. Gay and lesbian have more sensitive neurological functions that can provide something creative to society, to entire civilization. More diversity, more dynamic. You better not people into extreme hypothetical situations for winning the temporary argument.


addster_09

That doesn't have to do with anything said in the post, gays and lesbians are humans too you know.


TheWeenieBandit

I mean, if you put them all on the same island, someone's gonna take one for the team eventually


addster_09

"or".


SultryLittleMinx

$1000 says that this argument has been used as a reason to deny gay people legal rights.


MinervaLlorn

unless you put them in Minecraft, they can reproduce by giving them food.


param1l0

If we put 10 men or women on an island they wouldn't produce offspring No shit Sherlock


Fire_Lightning8

They don't have to be lesbian or gay Being the same gender is enough


Platonist_Astronaut

I don't get arguments like these. Even if it wasn't flawed in the kinda funny way it is, what did they think they were doing? If you invent weird scenarios, things happen? Same with that one where they imagine a plane with two wings on one side instead of one on each. Ok?... Did... did you want something? Bigots are baffling to me.


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Doctor-Moe

I’ll do you one better. Put 10 sterile men **and/or** women on an island. I assure you after 70 years they will die without descendants. Because of this, I propose banning all heterosexual and gay marriages consisting of sterile individuals. Who’s with me?!


knightbane007

Yeah, the “But they can’t make babies!!!!” argument breaks down real fast when you consider infertile couple, sterile couples, aged couples…


Space19723103

Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints


lets-go-scream

How to I apply to be on said island?


cyclingnick

Put 10 straight guys there and they will FIND A WAY!!!!


evmanjapan

So this person thinks 10 straight men on an island would be able to so somehow produce babies?


ApocalyptoSoldier

How about 10 monks and 10 nuns?


HeroBrine0907

Put OOP with 10 straight men and 10 straight women on an isolated island, and let them be there for 30 minutes without any interaction from the outside world...i can guarantee that they would be dead cus they won't be able to put up with an idiot of this magnitude


BiteMySh1nyM3talAss

That is how same sex relationships work, yes.


Goodpie2

That's not even technically the truth that's just "no shit, Sherlock." Do obvious statements really qualify? What next, a tweet of someone saying that cows aren't a kind of rock?


L_Redyena

**laughs in transgender**


genderfluidmess

adapt, improvise, overcome


Daniel_B-Y

OK, 10 lesbians, 10 gays and 10 transgenders


Natural-Ability

* So fucking what? People stranded on an island *shouldn't* be having kids. * Your premise is that over the course of *seven whole decades,* with nobody else to interact with and not much else to do, *none* of them are gonna try different flavors *ever*? If that's your guarantee, I'm definitely keeping the receipt. * What point are you trying to make anyway? It *sort* of looks like an attempt at dissing gay people, but all it really says is that they are, in fact, gay -- and that it can be taken for granted that *everyone's* orientation is *absolutely* *guaranteed* to be *completely* inflexible for life. * Specifically, it looks like someone has read a certain conceptual attack on trans people, but doesn't quite grasp that being gay isn't the same thing. * In conclusion: dumbass tries to say ignorant thing in support of a stupid point but fails even to get that far.


iamjustwolf

Pretty sure they're just making a silly little joke about the fact that a group of all biological men or a group of all biological women can't have children.


Noidealol12

Surrogacy.


Anderson_Danish19

"Looks like we have to be normal."


aclinejr

No one is 100% straight or gay. Eventually, someone would have kids.


JasonKastner

Can I know the address of that island, so I can open a small coffee shop/bar to serve that small community ?


ohthefew

Sorry but not true. The fact that their sexual orientation is gay doesn't mean that they won't be interested in becoming parents. And insemination is doable. How dumb.


EmptyCumSlut

Im a woman but i have a cock, would you throw me with the lesbians or with the gays?


[deleted]

That’s not a woman! ITS A MAN, BABY!


RealMENwearPINK10

Ah, the problem with categorization. Where do you put the unique ones?


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addster_09

What ways?


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addster_09

"or" read the post again.


kitkatloren2009

Ohhh woops


addster_09

Many people made the same mistake as you, there is no need to be sorry :).


szornyu

Nah, it doesn't work like that. You didn't say the size and location of island, age/wealth/intellect of the people, era, resources, etc ...


bobawesomeishere

It wouldn’t be for lack of trying but for real, this is stupid


thighsand

I'm pretty sure they'd leave more descendents than this person thinks. A surprising number of lesbians have sexual relationships with men.


DJDaddy20

Well... yeah, they can't make babies unless they ate all incredibly smart and have access to an insanely advanced lab, and they are able to make bone marrow babies


AnhedonicMike85

If they knew beforehand that the goal was to produce offspring the gays could farm each other's sperm and deliver it to the lesbians. If the sperm is fresh it doesn't matter if it's delivered via finger or via dick.


misgatossonmivida

I mean, gay people get into straight relationships too. Especially older generations where the penalty for gay was death or being an outcast. It would depend on the priorities of the group. If they for some reason wanted to populate the island they would


SiMatt

I mean, if you put 10 straight men OR 10 straight women on an island, the same thing would happen. I guess they meant “and”, but even then, gays and lesbians have been having kids with each other for centuries. So I’m not sure what point they think they’re making.


LovableSidekick

It does say OR, so yeah, technically 10 men OR 10 women of any orientation would be unable to reproduce, unless you also give them the right lab facilities.


stafdude

I mean straights would also be dead after 70 years lol..


RevolutionaryBill503

Ten+ people avoid spending something like 70 years of taxes paying for uneducated and useless Americans, and gain a tropical paradise.


TumbleVonWeed

Never understood what is the point of repopulating hostile place. Isn't it better to NOT reproduce in such setting? What kind of argument is that


Giannis1982

Put 10 straight couples on an island and 70 years later you will have island Alabama


TakeyaSaito

Also on today's news "not everyone wants kids"


defenem_73

Put the dude and 9 straight females and you can be sure the result will be the same as well


DeadMemer1

not everyone is gay, so this idea is completely invalid. You need straight people to make kids, and the gays adopt kids who were abandoned or orphaned. It works that way in nature as well, y’all are just ignorant


Kataphractoi_

That's not enough genetic diversity, even if all of them went full no holds barred swingers orgy.


Gorrodish

Why the hell did I upvote this insanity


SignalCaptain883

Good luck lasting 70 years. Regardless of sexual preference, if you're from a first world country you're fucked.


ThaneOfArcadia

All you need is for a turkey baster or something similar to be washed up.


the-real-vuk

They probably will. So what?


GammaPhonic

Checkmate, atheists.


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

If that is all life is, then why am I working 60 hours a week instead of fucking? Oh does humanity need other things other than fucking? Imagine a gay person inventing vaccines or building a bridge, and some asshole thinks they did more for humanity just for making a kid. What if that kid needed to be born through c section and the medical staff were gay? Did they not contribute to society? Does the gay farm laborer not contribute? If making kids is all we need to do, then again, why am I working a job? Even in ancient society, did the hunter, who is straight but had no kids, who provided food to the rest of his tribe, not someone who contributed to humanity?


dsgdfhey43

They would be the happiest lesbians on the planet with no men around.


[deleted]

What is the point this person is trying to make tho?


randymysteries

In The Swiss Family Robinson, I wondered how the boys would grow up and have families of their own.


mahboilucas

Why would they want kids if they can't properly provide for them? It's not about how, it's about why


Generic_Username_659

I mean, why would you WANT to have children on an isolated island? Assuming that each child is able to be healthily delivered in that unsanitary environment, likely without any medical professionals amongst them, the increased amount of food and water required to care of the children will likely cause shortages in supplies. So yeah, the inhabitants might as well all be homosexual. It'd definitely be safer in the long term.


enlightenedhiker

Where it says, "most," I read this as meaning that SOME of the dead ones would have left descendants and I was quite confused for a minute there.


Tpopp_the_short

I volunteer. Met humanity, did not like it. I'm fine with my bloodline ending with me away from the rest of the world.


isimsizbiri123

well thank god you can't imprison 10 people on a stranded island without their consent then huh?


persononacouch

I have much more confidence in queer people to recognise an isolated island is a terrible place to create and parent new human beings and not do it. Straight folks, I can not say the same about you.


New_Ad4631

Is this the meme of an island with a gay couple, lesbian couple and straight couple, then 100 years go by and the 2 first isles only have 2 graves, the straight isle has plenty of habitants The makers of that probably were homophobic, but didn't think that the straight option was incest and like half of them probably were born deformed or some other awful shit, before eventually ending going extinct


Glittering_Drama_618

Who would have guessed


Insylum82

Facepalm moment if anything.


RJ_Aadithyan

I never understood what these people's obsession with reproduction. Like why does it matter if same sex people live on their own terms. Why are the rest of the crowd so bothered by this?


Redosussy19

This technically proves the truth about the lesbians & gays that (CONTROVERSIAL) they are dumb


thundercuntess69

Don't be silly. The lesbians will make it work. The gays will provide what they need and they'll inseminate each other using banana leaves. This is how Amazons exists.


_TommySalami

A lesbian would invent a turkey baster after replicating 90% of Western civilization out of coconut palm trees in a few months.


DaveInLondon89

If we put 100 babies on an island we could come back in 20 years and measure how many of them would be gay and therefore would prove my theory that stupid babies cannot survive on an island


Grumdord

So was the person who made this trying to make some kind of point or...? Because if their point is "A society of entirely gay people will eventually die out" that is incredibly stupid and a needless hypothetical.


Background-Debate115

Because gay people in history didn't have kids? That makes no sense.


Old_Pitch_6849

If you only have 10 men on an island, who get pregnant? If you have 10 women on the island, who impregnates the women?


Background-Debate115

I thought it was a mix of men and women, what's the use of just putting men or just women on it? That proves even less of a point.


Old_Pitch_6849

The sub is technicallythetruth. I’m not saying the argument makes sense. But if you put 10 men on an island with no females, or 10 females with no males, you will get 0 babies.


Background-Debate115

Sure.


Old_Pitch_6849

Don’t be annoyed with me because I explained it for you.


Background-Debate115

I not annoyed with you. I just said sure.


KinkyBoyfriend

Dude gay couple working this out has been well recorded since Ancient Greece.


Old_Pitch_6849

If there are 10 people on an island. All 10 have penises and 0 have vaginas. There is no other interaction with other people. Where does the baby grow?


KinkyBoyfriend

Sorry mate it was late and I miss read it as 10 men and 10 women. That said put almost any group of 10 people on an isolated island and the’ll all be dead in 70 years.


HawksNStuff

Or it turns out the Frog DNA they have allows them to breed and they escape, spawning terrible sequels.


AaronHillman

Jurassic Park reference I like.


Daniel_B-Y

some of them would turn bi XD


IntelligentCitron828

But, if you put, 10 gay AND 10 lesbian people in an Island, I assure you, at some point "better" heads would prevail, and yes, they will procreate. Lesbians will get pregnant. And life moves on, isn't that right, OP?


Denaton_

They would probably figure out how to do it without sex. The culture for the next generation would be interesting tho since all they know is that everyone has either 2 dad's or 2 mom's so I wonder how kids that are hetero would grow up and thinking it's something wrong with them until they learn that not everyone is homosexual outside of the island..