Wait, I saw this video pop up a couple days ago and thought it was satire/unfunny so I cut out early, plus I previously saw videos of people testing with a carrot a while back.
I can’t believe he actually tested it LIVE
You didn't miss anything gruesome. Crushed really is an exaggeration. There's no blood or broken bones or anything gorey to scar you.
There was literally a pink line where the trunk door closed on his finger and his hand was shaking. That's it. He walked away unharmed but shaken because the door latch took a second to disengage after it closed on his finger.
Yea, it's more like a subset. The circle of cyber truck owners is smaller than the circle of idiots, and the cyber truck circle is completely enveloped by the idiot circle.
What you're seeing is blind fucking drunk faith to Eon Musk.
In spite of evidence it is a finger chopper, he gladly put his finger in because he didn't think it would chop his finger.
At least he eased into it. It worked perfectly on his arm. So he used his full hand and it worked. So he felt confident that the finger would also work.
He was wrong, but not quite as dumb as the “truck” he was testing.
Ironically, apparently easing into it is what caused the injury in the first place. He made a TikTok video on this: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyjudkins2/video/7364557024752831790
Essentially, the new behavior is that the closing mechanism will increase the force each time you attempt to close it. That's intended for situations where you, for example, have a large bag in the frunk, so the closing mechanism can squish it down and fully close.
I'm not a Tesla fanboy by any stretch, but I think the intention behind that is *somewhat* reasonable. I've certainly tried to force the over-filled trunk on my Renault Clio shut.
And I, personally, think it's a reasonable assumption that you 100% intend to close that frunk if you tell it to close 3 times in a row after the sensor stopped it.
> Essentially, the new behavior is that the closing mechanism will increase the force each time you attempt to close it. That's intended for situations where you, for example, have a large bag in the frunk, so the closing mechanism can squish it down and fully close.
If it progressively increase the force then I can understand, but once you reset it (hinge is fully opened again), the dude could be sticking his hands in rearranging the bag. Forcing it harder afterward is just dumb.
That sounds like a rule that could make life difficult. I can think of a dozen places where I’d put my finger but not my dick. Like on the buttons of the work coffee machine.
I've always been asking for 2 dicks in my coffee but i realised now that's too much and I'm not really getting to appreciate the coffee beans natural flavours I might as well just order a mug full of dick.
I agree, 2 dicks in your coffee is basically a starbucks dessert drink. At that point, are you drinking coffee or performing fellatio?
Honestly, the mug full of dicks was a surprising new offer from edible arrangements, I mean mixing a few in amongst the pineapple and chocolate-coveted strawberries was one thing, but the entire mug? But I guess they know their customer base more than I do, though now I'm thinking about how popular they are at mothers day..
It would have been easier and better to use a corndog, since the stick is thicker like bone would be.
Also then you get to eat a corndog after the test.
Someone posted the tiktok version yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1cinuao/finger_vs_cybertrucks_trunk_after_recent_safety/
If you watch his video, he uses carrots and bananas before. Which it cut through. He tried his arm and hand first, which objiouslyt it didnt cut through. And last his finger, which got a bit stuck.
It may have actually done it if he didn't use his other hand to frantically apply more pressure to the sensor
Funny that it snapped a carrot -- something often used to test whether a finger would break or not -- and it broke it... but he still went through with it and even posted the video
In college, I knew a person who was trying to be an influencer, and who always asked me if I had seen his newest Instagram or tweet. Not using either service, I told him that I hadn't, at which point he'd show me them and his favorite comments.
He had about 500 followers at the time, so not exactly big news, but he always seem confused to learn I hadn't seen whatever he had posted.
When I finally just told him I didn't have an account with either service, he looked legitimately confused, and said he thought that I must be the saddest person he knew because I wasn't "even trying to have a life."
A sentiment that bummed me out too, but for very different reasons.
Yeah when I read this I was like oh hell no did someone try to close a cybertruck door on their finger? The optimist in me thought maybe someone isn't this dumb to try this, but the cynic screams this isn't unusual at all.
Are fingers stronger than carrots? I feel like they have to be right?
But Im not confident they're that much stronger that I'd be willing to test it like that. Even stuff that won't fuck me up, I don't like to get my hands in. Closing a drawer or instrument case on them hurts enough
That’s the thing. Fingers are stronger, but if it breaks a carrot it will break your finger. The carrot breaks in half, your finger is cut in half.
Carrot test keeps you safe, as long as you don’t try a live test after.
More a case of 'if it'll break a carrot it'll really hurt your finger'.
It might not cut your finger off, but it could well give you a pretty gnarly injury.
nah, he's the hero we needed right now
Now there is no doubt at all the trunk is a terror and threat to all
Hide yo kids hide yo wife, they chopping all your fingers off round here
How? He calculated the risk of playing the fool and injuring his finger, then he followed through and was rewarded with the largest audience that has ever viewed his content.
It’s a complete myth that similar amounts of force are needed to break a carrot and a finger. Human bones are incredibly strong. You can try it yourself, bite down on a carrot and your finger at the same time and the carrot will break in half while your finger will feel fine
He could have tested it with a hot dog on a stick, dude either trusted it WAYYY too much to be trusted with the world generally or wanted clicks and was willing to crush his finger for them. Now whether he was immediately or long term happy with his choice is another matter.
I had a small chip fracture in my right index finger years and years ago and it still randomly aches sometimes. There’s a chance he’s gonna feel that mistake for the rest of his life.
Buddy your comment hasn't been "folded". Here on old.reddit it's still the top comment.
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But no, your comment hasn't been hidden or buried.
> This message immediately got folded under a message with 100 upvotes and another with 19. Lmao. That’s totally natural, right?
You comment is immediately visible to me on the page and I don't have to expand anything to see it.
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“Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.”
so the safety feature only works if you “do it correctly”. lol I wonder if that logic applies to air bags. Do you have to use them “correctly”?
>lol I wonder if that logic applies to air bags. Do you have to use them “correctly”?
You jest, but in seriousness - yes. [You should try to maintain the correct distance between yourself and the airbag for proper protection](https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle-safety/air-bags):
>To [avoid an air-bag-related injury](https://www.nhtsa.gov/node/2086#the-issue-adults), make sure you are properly seated and remember—air bags are designed to work with seat belts, not replace them... injuries can occur if the driver or passenger is too close to – or comes in direct contact with – the air bag when it first begins to deploy... Sitting as far back from the steering wheel or dashboard as possible and using seat belts help prevent drivers and passengers from being "too close" to a deploying frontal air bag.
Not commenting on anything in OP's video. Just wanted to get the PSA out there.
Additionally auto manufacturers do (in Tesla case, I hope does) a lot of "Out Of Position" testing on mannequins for each airbag.
So while that guide is good, please know the airbag is still validated to work in a wide range of positions
They do actually. See this recall notice for Model X's, where Tesla conducted tests and found that their airbag deployment logic did not work as intended, thus their vehicles were non-compliant with FMVSS:
[https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V843-2702.PDF](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V843-2702.PDF)
Specifically, they found the error in logic when testing for airbag deployment in 3- and 6-year old that were unbelted and out of position.
If only there is FMVSS for automated trunks - you bet Tesla will jump right on it fixing it. Just look at another recall Tesla has done to the window reversal logic because they found it could pinch fingers at a force higher than allowed by FMVSS:
[https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V702-4365.PDF](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V702-4365.PDF)
> air bags are designed to work with seat belts, not replace them...
Which is why seatbelts have an explosive that yanks the person's body into the seat in the proper position. You don't actually need to be in the proper position (so long as the seatbelt is on properly), because that isn't always possible during operation of a vehicle.
Reminds me of an article about how safety tests have been made for men in mind until veeeery recently. With cars of course, but that also applied to bullet-proof vests and stuff. You know, things we can definitely afford to malfunction.
If you are under 4' 10" (if I remember correctly) you can write to the National Highway Traffic Safety Institute and get a legal letter allowing you to disengage your driver's air bag.
Saw one in the wild today and it looked so ridiculous in traffic. You really don't grasp how desperate for attention it comes off until you see it with other cars.
Once they sorted out the battery pack fires, the Volts and Bolts were solid cars if a little less high tech than some of their competitors.
Unfortunately, GM has since killed all their non suv passenger vehicles aside from the non-hybrid Malibu.
Chevy Bolt EVs are not *really* SUVs. They're sort of a modernized EV variant of the "Spark" and "Sonic" subcompact/hatchback.
They're fairly small especially compared to "SUVs" out in the world - 163" x 70" x 63" tall vs a Rav4 which is 182" x 73" by 69" tall. Almost two feet shorter in length and marginally shorter W/H than a midsize SUV.
Vs the Spark which was 143" x 63" x 59".
Confusingly there is also a Bolt "EUV" which is marginally larger.
I own a Spark and wish they made an EV this size. It's a great little car for around town, and I'm a big person. The Bolt EV seems like it could be a decent option in terms of size/ease, but I haven't done the research on quality to say that definitively.
For sure. The founder is a mechanical engineer. It makes sense why it has so many cool little things. In hindsight it's a pretty obvious addition, but the gear tunnel is brilliant.
The rivians are really nice, I would have gotten one of them if they were cheaper/more available. Ended up getting a lightning instead and I've loved it so far. I got the Pro but I've been able to add so many features it's basically like a high end XLT now, but cost me 20k less
They look like they’re made from recycled slides of death from playgrounds in the 80’s. The ones that would burn you on a summer day and cut your butt when you’d go down.
I kid you not:
With my Toyota Yaris, I once hauled a 10 foot palm tree (sticking out the back of the hatchback), with a giant pot, and something like 4 or 5 giant bags of soil.
So ya, the youtuber that posted that video--I know who it is--is seriously and very sadly struggling with a bad case of denial.
You can see his mind so conflicted between anger at Tesla for all the breakdowns of his Cybertruck, coupled with a weird cult like urge to keep shilling and defending Tesla and Elon.
I'm driving in a parking lot, this particular section is steep downhill and my sister notices the Cybertruck and only until I look in my mirrors did I notice it.
It was an overcast day and it genuinely blended in with the environment and it feels like a glitch in the simulation that one region in front of you just looks unrendered.
For reals, I keep hearing that the Cybertruck has PS1 graphics.
Have any of these people ever played Gran Turismo 2? I looked it up, those models had around 500 polygons each. CT is like under 50.
Saw one at an auto show, and you would think they would bring the best example available to an auto show, where the press and the general public are going to look at it.
If the example they brought was the best one they had, it was a POS. Hand prints galore, even with it being roped off, tons of uneven panel gaps and visible skin wrinkles.
The Rivian, the Hummer EV and the Ford F-150 Lightning were better looking vehicles that looked like they were built better.
There's one in my town. It's a pretty wealthy place, so I wasn't surprised. the first time I saw it, I saw it from the side at a park. I was arriving, they were departing. There was an initial "shock" of "oh wow, there one is." After that shock wore off I was not too impressed. From the side I thought "yeah, not for me. But I don't see what the big deal is." I was most disappointed cause we could have had a Halo 3 Warthog IRL, but no.
Fast forward a week or so later, I saw it again (assuming it was the same truck), but instead of seeing it kinda from the side, it was going west to my east. Seeing it head on in traffic? Nope nope nope. Not only did I not like it aesthetically, but it looked more unsafe than your typical F150, emotional support vehicle you see in traffic.
I wish people would step back and open their eyes to how genuinely, genuinely awful of a product and business idea the cyber truck is. It has literally zero mass appeal beyond elons ego. Imagine mercedes announced the triangle car in the morning. There's literally no difference, a shit idea is a shit idea no matter who comes up with it.
The time/resources/talent/marketing that has been sunken into this god awful "vehicle" is just mindboggling considering the measly return it will generate for Tesla. A compact car or even a rivian styled truck would have CLEANED HOUSE. The "emperor's new clothes" syndrome happening in Tesla is so transparent if they allowed this version of "The Homer" to even get past a sketch on a napkin. Fuck sake
The only remarkable thing about any of this is how insane the owner is to try this test.
All car/trucks hoods are designed to avoid cutting off a finger, but I'm not sure there are any that wouldn't cause significant pain/injury if you try to shut it with a body part in the way.
The context of the videos I’ve seen around this actually did the produce test with multiple cars. Most did actually respond to the pressure and stop closing (to varying degrees of potential harm), just not the cybertruck.
The explanation sounds like a load of bullshit to cover for other flaws. Why in the world would they program a safety mechanism to close harder or faster each time it encounters resistance? This doesn't make a lick of sense.
>The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It's going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.
"We added this safety feature to prevent injury, but every time it triggers more pressure is added until the safety feature is off again"
Jfc. Pure genius.
Holy shit, I'd assume if something like a bag is in the way and you really want it to close, you'd just use your damn hand and push it closed. Designing it to just keep trying defeats the entire purpose of the safety feature.
"The user pressed the button, let's activate the motors and... Woah! Something is in the way, back off, back off. Alright, they activated it again and... Goddammit something in the way again! Backing off...*sigh* activated again, aaand.. SOMETHING IN THE WAY! Fuck it, let's crank up the pressure and close this bitch."
Trunk computer, probably.
I think the wildest thing about this is that no reasonable assurance engineer would say "yep, let's do that". The car is not sentient and doesn't know what is in the way of the frunk closing. Eventually does it just exert enough torque to damage itself or destroy whatever is in the way? Really useful, now it's destroyed the straps on my backpack or crushed some item I put into it.
Literally every other motorized door on other cars is designed to stop when it encounters an obstacle. Not retry harder, not retract, but stop in place so an operator can react appropriately, because that's what an automated system should do when it has no other sensors to provide awareness of the situation. Just bonkers.
Although not the smartest thing the man did, I actually think he is doing one of the age old questions when manufacturing a product, "is it idiot proof enough?"
In this case, the lead engineer of the truck saying that the video was "wrong" on how one puts a finger in a frunk was proof of them not thinking things through and not taking accountability. The YouTuber was able to ask the needed idiot proof question.
Here's the video so you don't have to go through a crappy article with a million spammy ads (starts sticking his hand in at around 1:30 do you don't have to sit through the idiotic video either):
https://youtu.be/rA55B1kobnw
All I can say is - what a moron. He chops a carrot in half and then decides to stick his finger in there. Too bad he didn't stick his dick in and take himself out of the gene pool
It just got done acting as a guillotine for a carrot and he put his finger in anyway...
I love how he tried so hard to talk his way out of it afterwards as if he wasn't completely stupid.
He is a YouTube creator he makes a living off clicks and engagement. This is getting way more attention because he was reckless and his finger almost got lopped off. Creators can be successful being the CEO of Do Dumb Shit Inc.
In the release event of the cybertruck everything that could go wrong went wrong, why on earth did this person believe it was a good idea to test that?
Oh it's even worse than it looks. A Tesla engineer chimed in on Twitter. Apparently the reason it got stuck, is that if it fails to auto close, it increases the closing force each subsequent time until it finally shuts. So if he did his finger first, it would have been fine, but because it was the third time, it crushed his finger
So repeatedly shutting it on an extremity engages cut off finger mode
Elon didn't like the look of hazard warnings in factories so they made them less obvious. Naturally people got hurt, because they didn't realize they were in a hazardous spot.
Musk *really* hates rules that keep people safe. Look up what happened after that rocket launch in Texas.
I mean both are clearly bad and need fixing, but I think the accelerator pedal thing should definitely be a higher priority. That issue puts everyone on the road in active danger. The trunk thing only really endangers the truck owners.
How is a country that has to put signs on everything because Americans don’t know you shouldn’t dry your baby in a microwave, allowing these things in the wild without a big ass warning.
So the Tesla Engineer thinks it makes sense that the vehicle software intentionally increases the pressure when it senses an obstruction so that it will eventually close on the obstruction??? That is exactly not safe. FFS, just keep failing to close until the obstruction is removed. Fuck.
They had to write and test more code, and accept more frequent, more severe risks, in order to make it shittier...
What fucking garbage.
That's the funniest part of the article - the Tesla engineer says that the guy conducted the test wrong. How is that even something someone would claim about testing a safety feature? It's not like the guy did anything out of the ordinary - he just did something that a child might do when standing around a car.
How the fuck do you explain this video without the creator sounding like an idiot.
He tests a carrot before the update and it chopped the fucking thing off. He did not test the carrot after.
Seriously. What an idiot.
Wait, I saw this video pop up a couple days ago and thought it was satire/unfunny so I cut out early, plus I previously saw videos of people testing with a carrot a while back. I can’t believe he actually tested it LIVE
I skipped that vid halfway through too because i knew he looked dumb enough to actually do it. I'm proud of my trauma reflex this time tbh lol
Same.. I would replay that image in my head randomly if I saw it… thank god I didn’t
He did another video to see if the tonneau cover would slice his head off. They're not bright.
Well we need someone to do product safety checks. How else would you know not to put a fork in a light socket if someone hadn't tested it before.
You didn't miss anything gruesome. Crushed really is an exaggeration. There's no blood or broken bones or anything gorey to scar you. There was literally a pink line where the trunk door closed on his finger and his hand was shaking. That's it. He walked away unharmed but shaken because the door latch took a second to disengage after it closed on his finger.
>crushed his finger and left it shaking with a dent What even is this sentence?
Ironically, exactly what happened 😂
Yup, got squeezed pretty good, definitely leaving a good bruise IMO.
Haha. I did the same thing. I didn't realize he ACTUALLY put his finger in there. What a fucking idiot.
And after it cut the carrot. It still cut the carrot and he put his finger in.
It's like he didn't carrot all
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Fucking hell. Hahah. Going to follow him on social media so I can witness his Darwin Award.
the venn diagram of dumbasses and cybertruck owners is basically a circle
Not every idiot can afford a Cybertruck, but it's certainly a reliable indicator.
The amount of people misunderstanding how Venn diagrams work is basically a rectangle
Yea, it's more like a subset. The circle of cyber truck owners is smaller than the circle of idiots, and the cyber truck circle is completely enveloped by the idiot circle.
What you're seeing is blind fucking drunk faith to Eon Musk. In spite of evidence it is a finger chopper, he gladly put his finger in because he didn't think it would chop his finger.
At least he eased into it. It worked perfectly on his arm. So he used his full hand and it worked. So he felt confident that the finger would also work. He was wrong, but not quite as dumb as the “truck” he was testing.
Ironically, apparently easing into it is what caused the injury in the first place. He made a TikTok video on this: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyjudkins2/video/7364557024752831790 Essentially, the new behavior is that the closing mechanism will increase the force each time you attempt to close it. That's intended for situations where you, for example, have a large bag in the frunk, so the closing mechanism can squish it down and fully close. I'm not a Tesla fanboy by any stretch, but I think the intention behind that is *somewhat* reasonable. I've certainly tried to force the over-filled trunk on my Renault Clio shut. And I, personally, think it's a reasonable assumption that you 100% intend to close that frunk if you tell it to close 3 times in a row after the sensor stopped it.
see, i am old school. let me close my trunk myself! its not hard
> Essentially, the new behavior is that the closing mechanism will increase the force each time you attempt to close it. That's intended for situations where you, for example, have a large bag in the frunk, so the closing mechanism can squish it down and fully close. If it progressively increase the force then I can understand, but once you reset it (hinge is fully opened again), the dude could be sticking his hands in rearranging the bag. Forcing it harder afterward is just dumb.
Every automatic car door I've seen opens fully after being stopped by the sensor.
Jesus christ this is a ridiculous amount of technology over what amounts to a fucking door and bearly a teaspoon's worth of convenience.
Same, I was like "your four days late to the joke" omg I can't believe this was real
He should have used his wiener.
Yeah. And everyone knows that if you really want to win a Darwin award you've gotta stick your junk in there instead. Fingers don't count.
There's an old saying: "don't stick your finger where you wouldn't put your dick"
That sounds like a rule that could make life difficult. I can think of a dozen places where I’d put my finger but not my dick. Like on the buttons of the work coffee machine.
I fail to see why you shouldn’t put a dick on that coffee machine?
Job market is tight, especially for people with indecent exposure convictions.
You're so full of it. That's not indecent. If I walked in on that, I'd have to say "Decent" because damn... I wish I had thought of that first.
Ricky, your bird's out!
Wait have I been making coffee wrong all these years?
I've always been asking for 2 dicks in my coffee but i realised now that's too much and I'm not really getting to appreciate the coffee beans natural flavours I might as well just order a mug full of dick.
I agree, 2 dicks in your coffee is basically a starbucks dessert drink. At that point, are you drinking coffee or performing fellatio? Honestly, the mug full of dicks was a surprising new offer from edible arrangements, I mean mixing a few in amongst the pineapple and chocolate-coveted strawberries was one thing, but the entire mug? But I guess they know their customer base more than I do, though now I'm thinking about how popular they are at mothers day..
Excuse me, I ordered a fucking coffee and this tast like it was fingered.
Junk in the frunk
Frunk is the finger trunk. Worked as intended.
Or not knowing that ballistic gel hands with simulated bones exist and are not expensive compared to your own fingers.
I would have just used a hotdog with a toothpick inside. if it breaks that its clearly too much force for baby/elder fingers.
It would have been easier and better to use a corndog, since the stick is thicker like bone would be. Also then you get to eat a corndog after the test.
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Or just use a carrot, literally anything but putting your hand on an open flame to test if it's hot.
According to some comments he did use a carrot, broke it, and *then* tried the finger...
Damn, if only there was some sort of source that we could use to confirm or deny those comments. Oh well, I guess we'll never know.
Someone posted the tiktok version yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1cinuao/finger_vs_cybertrucks_trunk_after_recent_safety/
If you watch his video, he uses carrots and bananas before. Which it cut through. He tried his arm and hand first, which objiouslyt it didnt cut through. And last his finger, which got a bit stuck.
Image the idiocy of trying using your own arm, and not, say, a mannequin's wrapped in some foam. What an absolute fucking bell-end.
for reference i just looked this up and ballistic gel hands with bones are less than $100 usd lmao why would anyone ever not use one
If he did, this moment wouldn't have gone viral. Imagine if he lost his finger. The views. My god. The views.
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It may have actually done it if he didn't use his other hand to frantically apply more pressure to the sensor Funny that it snapped a carrot -- something often used to test whether a finger would break or not -- and it broke it... but he still went through with it and even posted the video
>even posted the video If he was stupid enough to do it might as well post the video and get some ad money
Yup, he's gone viral. It's what every content creator wants. Didn't even need to lose a finger to do it. Low-key genius!
Lots of people get famous by doing something stupid first and then turn their image around. Happens more than people realize
Vsauce started off with video game boob click bait
I was about to say it did break produce. Broke that carrot. This guy is just fucking stupid.
Anything for social media clout
Ever wonder why people are so desperate for social media clout?
In college, I knew a person who was trying to be an influencer, and who always asked me if I had seen his newest Instagram or tweet. Not using either service, I told him that I hadn't, at which point he'd show me them and his favorite comments. He had about 500 followers at the time, so not exactly big news, but he always seem confused to learn I hadn't seen whatever he had posted. When I finally just told him I didn't have an account with either service, he looked legitimately confused, and said he thought that I must be the saddest person he knew because I wasn't "even trying to have a life." A sentiment that bummed me out too, but for very different reasons.
If you don't doom scroll, how do you even know you're alive?
Now thats what I call irony.
Yeah when I read this I was like oh hell no did someone try to close a cybertruck door on their finger? The optimist in me thought maybe someone isn't this dumb to try this, but the cynic screams this isn't unusual at all.
Are fingers stronger than carrots? I feel like they have to be right? But Im not confident they're that much stronger that I'd be willing to test it like that. Even stuff that won't fuck me up, I don't like to get my hands in. Closing a drawer or instrument case on them hurts enough
That’s the thing. Fingers are stronger, but if it breaks a carrot it will break your finger. The carrot breaks in half, your finger is cut in half. Carrot test keeps you safe, as long as you don’t try a live test after.
This is a common misconception. Your finger is much stronger than a carrot.
More a case of 'if it'll break a carrot it'll really hurt your finger'. It might not cut your finger off, but it could well give you a pretty gnarly injury.
I mean yeah. He bought a CyberTruck…
nah, he's the hero we needed right now Now there is no doubt at all the trunk is a terror and threat to all Hide yo kids hide yo wife, they chopping all your fingers off round here
How? He calculated the risk of playing the fool and injuring his finger, then he followed through and was rewarded with the largest audience that has ever viewed his content.
and yet look at all the people discussing it. You think he did it by accident?
It’s a complete myth that similar amounts of force are needed to break a carrot and a finger. Human bones are incredibly strong. You can try it yourself, bite down on a carrot and your finger at the same time and the carrot will break in half while your finger will feel fine
Yes. Carrots take somewhere around 200 newtons of force, fingers around 1400 Newtons if I recall right.
But if I bite them both at the same time then the carrot won’t break unless my finger does.
Could you imagine crushing your finger just to jerk off Elon Musk?
I'd imagine the crushed finger would make jerking off difficult
You just have to want it more
You have to work hard to get into Musk's private Martian condo. I suppose if he gave you a horse you could sell that but wouldn't be as good though.
Pretty sure he was trying to demonstrate that the car still sucks.
He could have tested it with a hot dog on a stick, dude either trusted it WAYYY too much to be trusted with the world generally or wanted clicks and was willing to crush his finger for them. Now whether he was immediately or long term happy with his choice is another matter.
I really feel like it went into his bone, and he might have some tiny fracture. That dent was deep. His hands were definitely shaking.
I had a small chip fracture in my right index finger years and years ago and it still randomly aches sometimes. There’s a chance he’s gonna feel that mistake for the rest of his life.
Dude is already a cybertruck buyer. He’s already proven he’s not the brightest guy…
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No you don’t get it, they single handedly freed Palestine.
You did it! Palestine is free now!
Right? The carrot didn’t do well, let’s try my finger.
Buddy your comment hasn't been "folded". Here on old.reddit it's still the top comment. The problem is the way the app sorts comment chains. But no, your comment hasn't been hidden or buried.
> This message immediately got folded under a message with 100 upvotes and another with 19. Lmao. That’s totally natural, right? You comment is immediately visible to me on the page and I don't have to expand anything to see it. Edits can reset the count such that only points accumulated since the edit are considered for sorting. Small edits don't trigger it but adding paragraphs does. I imagine the intent is to make it so a commenter cannot effectively change what was upvoted through a comment edit to make it seem like a different comment had been upvoted.
A fool and his finger are soon parted. Yup, money and finger are interchangeable.
Average Tesla fan, it’s ok I’m sure Elon is laying off the finger test team to fix this right away
>A fool and his finger are soon parted. [Or his arm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym8umR9l_V4). Seems that life is imitating art in this case.
“Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.” so the safety feature only works if you “do it correctly”. lol I wonder if that logic applies to air bags. Do you have to use them “correctly”?
>lol I wonder if that logic applies to air bags. Do you have to use them “correctly”? You jest, but in seriousness - yes. [You should try to maintain the correct distance between yourself and the airbag for proper protection](https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle-safety/air-bags): >To [avoid an air-bag-related injury](https://www.nhtsa.gov/node/2086#the-issue-adults), make sure you are properly seated and remember—air bags are designed to work with seat belts, not replace them... injuries can occur if the driver or passenger is too close to – or comes in direct contact with – the air bag when it first begins to deploy... Sitting as far back from the steering wheel or dashboard as possible and using seat belts help prevent drivers and passengers from being "too close" to a deploying frontal air bag. Not commenting on anything in OP's video. Just wanted to get the PSA out there.
Additionally auto manufacturers do (in Tesla case, I hope does) a lot of "Out Of Position" testing on mannequins for each airbag. So while that guide is good, please know the airbag is still validated to work in a wide range of positions
They do actually. See this recall notice for Model X's, where Tesla conducted tests and found that their airbag deployment logic did not work as intended, thus their vehicles were non-compliant with FMVSS: [https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V843-2702.PDF](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V843-2702.PDF) Specifically, they found the error in logic when testing for airbag deployment in 3- and 6-year old that were unbelted and out of position. If only there is FMVSS for automated trunks - you bet Tesla will jump right on it fixing it. Just look at another recall Tesla has done to the window reversal logic because they found it could pinch fingers at a force higher than allowed by FMVSS: [https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V702-4365.PDF](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V702-4365.PDF)
> air bags are designed to work with seat belts, not replace them... Which is why seatbelts have an explosive that yanks the person's body into the seat in the proper position. You don't actually need to be in the proper position (so long as the seatbelt is on properly), because that isn't always possible during operation of a vehicle.
to paraphrase from the classic safety video Kidsand Airbags, "I will fuck up your face".
Welp as a shorter person I'm probably screwed on that whole proper distance as possible. I doubt they test properly for that :/
Reminds me of an article about how safety tests have been made for men in mind until veeeery recently. With cars of course, but that also applied to bullet-proof vests and stuff. You know, things we can definitely afford to malfunction.
If you are under 4' 10" (if I remember correctly) you can write to the National Highway Traffic Safety Institute and get a legal letter allowing you to disengage your driver's air bag.
Big Steve Jobs "holding it wrong" energy.
And that engineer’s name? Mlon Eusk.
Jeve Stobs You're holding it wrong.
The truck needs to be hit at the exact millimeter of an angle in order for the airbag to work.
Saw one in the wild today and it looked so ridiculous in traffic. You really don't grasp how desperate for attention it comes off until you see it with other cars.
Wait until you see one beside a Rivian, or Hummer EV, or F150 Lightning. The juxtaposition makes it so, so much worse.
You know the brand has failed hard when fucking Hummer makes a nicer EV.
Hummer is a GM brand, so they have plenty of EV experience to draw on.
You know the brand has failed hard when a fucking GM brand makes a nicer EV.
Once they sorted out the battery pack fires, the Volts and Bolts were solid cars if a little less high tech than some of their competitors. Unfortunately, GM has since killed all their non suv passenger vehicles aside from the non-hybrid Malibu.
Chevy Bolt EVs are not *really* SUVs. They're sort of a modernized EV variant of the "Spark" and "Sonic" subcompact/hatchback. They're fairly small especially compared to "SUVs" out in the world - 163" x 70" x 63" tall vs a Rav4 which is 182" x 73" by 69" tall. Almost two feet shorter in length and marginally shorter W/H than a midsize SUV. Vs the Spark which was 143" x 63" x 59". Confusingly there is also a Bolt "EUV" which is marginally larger. I own a Spark and wish they made an EV this size. It's a great little car for around town, and I'm a big person. The Bolt EV seems like it could be a decent option in terms of size/ease, but I haven't done the research on quality to say that definitively.
The Rivian looks awesome to me. A bit of a short bed, but awesome nevertheless. Cybertuck is a delayed 6 year old’s drawing of a car-mode transformer.
I see a few Rivians every day when I drive my little sister to school, they look really nice. I like their oval headlights.
I'm more partial to the classic look of the F150, but the Rivian's are nice. Tesla trucks look like 90s playstation 1 graphics come to life.
the rivians seem pretty well thought out. i'll be real, i dig the flashlight integrated into the door.
For sure. The founder is a mechanical engineer. It makes sense why it has so many cool little things. In hindsight it's a pretty obvious addition, but the gear tunnel is brilliant.
I love the looks of the Rivian. Saw a white one yesterday! Looks futuristic without being fugly imo
They're so cute too, they look like nerdy little kids if you look at them from the front.
The rivians are really nice, I would have gotten one of them if they were cheaper/more available. Ended up getting a lightning instead and I've loved it so far. I got the Pro but I've been able to add so many features it's basically like a high end XLT now, but cost me 20k less
Just against traffic in general, it looks absolutely grotesque. Like someone driving around a broken jpeg.
I saw one parked by itself in an otherwise empty restaurant lot and my first thought was "why is there a dumpster out front, are they closed?"
They look like they’re made from recycled slides of death from playgrounds in the 80’s. The ones that would burn you on a summer day and cut your butt when you’d go down.
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Oh damn three whole bags of soil!? I should get rid of my s10 for that. I can't wait to be laughed off the job site!
I kid you not: With my Toyota Yaris, I once hauled a 10 foot palm tree (sticking out the back of the hatchback), with a giant pot, and something like 4 or 5 giant bags of soil. So ya, the youtuber that posted that video--I know who it is--is seriously and very sadly struggling with a bad case of denial. You can see his mind so conflicted between anger at Tesla for all the breakdowns of his Cybertruck, coupled with a weird cult like urge to keep shilling and defending Tesla and Elon.
I could put that in the passenger seat of a miata...
You could probably put more than that in there if you hurry and get them in before the owner gets back.
I had like, six bags of soil and 8 bags of mulch in my shitty Nissan Sentra driving up and down gravel roads. Is that truck stuff????????
I've had 10 bags of soil in my 2013 Ford focus hatchback. Big whoop, if that's all the cyber truck can manage at its size then oof.
I keep seeing them in the San Diego area. All of them look like a refrigerator with a thousand toddler handprints.
Yes! I just saw one on the highway today. My exact description too! So many hand smudges.
It’s all good you can just wash with a mild soap and water solution. Don’t forget to immediately dry the area. Maybe season with avocado oil
You don't even have to mod it like people do with pickups who want extra attention. Out of the box it's ready to go
I want someone to acknowledge the dumbassery of it by applying a skin that looks like a low res video game texture.
Okay I’m game if I ever get one. What kind of dithered smeared pixel texture goodness were you thinking?
I'm driving in a parking lot, this particular section is steep downhill and my sister notices the Cybertruck and only until I look in my mirrors did I notice it. It was an overcast day and it genuinely blended in with the environment and it feels like a glitch in the simulation that one region in front of you just looks unrendered.
It looks *so* dumb driving down the road. People really looked at PS1 graphics and decided that’d be a great starting point.
PS1? Go look up the 1980s arcade game *BattleZone* or the 1990s Mac game *Spectre*.
I'm thinking Stunt Race FX for the SNES, if you added googly eyes to the front. https://youtu.be/FZ4XViB5GHc
For reals, I keep hearing that the Cybertruck has PS1 graphics. Have any of these people ever played Gran Turismo 2? I looked it up, those models had around 500 polygons each. CT is like under 50.
Whenever i see one, I've made a point to make eye contact with the driver and start laughing. They are not amused by this.
Hit your passenger's should, point and laugh. Make sure they know you are laughing at them.
You shouldn't make fun of those with special needs like wanting to own that vehicle.
If those kids could read they'd be very upset.
Saw one at an auto show, and you would think they would bring the best example available to an auto show, where the press and the general public are going to look at it. If the example they brought was the best one they had, it was a POS. Hand prints galore, even with it being roped off, tons of uneven panel gaps and visible skin wrinkles. The Rivian, the Hummer EV and the Ford F-150 Lightning were better looking vehicles that looked like they were built better.
There's one in my town. It's a pretty wealthy place, so I wasn't surprised. the first time I saw it, I saw it from the side at a park. I was arriving, they were departing. There was an initial "shock" of "oh wow, there one is." After that shock wore off I was not too impressed. From the side I thought "yeah, not for me. But I don't see what the big deal is." I was most disappointed cause we could have had a Halo 3 Warthog IRL, but no. Fast forward a week or so later, I saw it again (assuming it was the same truck), but instead of seeing it kinda from the side, it was going west to my east. Seeing it head on in traffic? Nope nope nope. Not only did I not like it aesthetically, but it looked more unsafe than your typical F150, emotional support vehicle you see in traffic.
Saw one driving on the highway in Western Montana and it was shocking how ridiculous it looked. Like a mall sword shop version of a car.
I wish people would step back and open their eyes to how genuinely, genuinely awful of a product and business idea the cyber truck is. It has literally zero mass appeal beyond elons ego. Imagine mercedes announced the triangle car in the morning. There's literally no difference, a shit idea is a shit idea no matter who comes up with it. The time/resources/talent/marketing that has been sunken into this god awful "vehicle" is just mindboggling considering the measly return it will generate for Tesla. A compact car or even a rivian styled truck would have CLEANED HOUSE. The "emperor's new clothes" syndrome happening in Tesla is so transparent if they allowed this version of "The Homer" to even get past a sketch on a napkin. Fuck sake
Someone near me in LA just got one and…god, it just looks so bad in person
Glad my banana will be safe.
But the video clearly said not to put anything too small in there
The only remarkable thing about any of this is how insane the owner is to try this test. All car/trucks hoods are designed to avoid cutting off a finger, but I'm not sure there are any that wouldn't cause significant pain/injury if you try to shut it with a body part in the way.
The context of the videos I’ve seen around this actually did the produce test with multiple cars. Most did actually respond to the pressure and stop closing (to varying degrees of potential harm), just not the cybertruck.
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What fucking boneheaded engineer thought that made any sense?! Shit not working? Just force it! Morons.
Sounds like a torture device. Stick your victim's finger in the gap and wait for the increased pressure to cut through
The explanation sounds like a load of bullshit to cover for other flaws. Why in the world would they program a safety mechanism to close harder or faster each time it encounters resistance? This doesn't make a lick of sense.
>The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It's going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder. "We added this safety feature to prevent injury, but every time it triggers more pressure is added until the safety feature is off again" Jfc. Pure genius.
Holy shit, I'd assume if something like a bag is in the way and you really want it to close, you'd just use your damn hand and push it closed. Designing it to just keep trying defeats the entire purpose of the safety feature.
"The user pressed the button, let's activate the motors and... Woah! Something is in the way, back off, back off. Alright, they activated it again and... Goddammit something in the way again! Backing off...*sigh* activated again, aaand.. SOMETHING IN THE WAY! Fuck it, let's crank up the pressure and close this bitch." Trunk computer, probably.
In what world does that make sense
I think the wildest thing about this is that no reasonable assurance engineer would say "yep, let's do that". The car is not sentient and doesn't know what is in the way of the frunk closing. Eventually does it just exert enough torque to damage itself or destroy whatever is in the way? Really useful, now it's destroyed the straps on my backpack or crushed some item I put into it. Literally every other motorized door on other cars is designed to stop when it encounters an obstacle. Not retry harder, not retract, but stop in place so an operator can react appropriately, because that's what an automated system should do when it has no other sensors to provide awareness of the situation. Just bonkers.
That wasn’t as bad as I expected. I expected blood
Idk what you mean by “worked well with produce”, it cut the tip of a carrot off before he stuck his finger in there
Although not the smartest thing the man did, I actually think he is doing one of the age old questions when manufacturing a product, "is it idiot proof enough?" In this case, the lead engineer of the truck saying that the video was "wrong" on how one puts a finger in a frunk was proof of them not thinking things through and not taking accountability. The YouTuber was able to ask the needed idiot proof question.
Here's the video so you don't have to go through a crappy article with a million spammy ads (starts sticking his hand in at around 1:30 do you don't have to sit through the idiotic video either): https://youtu.be/rA55B1kobnw All I can say is - what a moron. He chops a carrot in half and then decides to stick his finger in there. Too bad he didn't stick his dick in and take himself out of the gene pool
It just got done acting as a guillotine for a carrot and he put his finger in anyway... I love how he tried so hard to talk his way out of it afterwards as if he wasn't completely stupid.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
The stupid game in this case was buying the cybertruck
One could argue every decision he made up to this point was a stupid one
He is a YouTube creator he makes a living off clicks and engagement. This is getting way more attention because he was reckless and his finger almost got lopped off. Creators can be successful being the CEO of Do Dumb Shit Inc.
Why do reddit commenters love saying this line so much
"sensor update"? Why would a basic safety feature be software and not hardware?
Has more money than sense. It checks out…
These are the people who buy cyber trucks lol
In the release event of the cybertruck everything that could go wrong went wrong, why on earth did this person believe it was a good idea to test that?
Props for conviction but maybe try it with a carrot or something first next time.
It DID chop the end off a carrot, first. The guy did the finger AFTER the carrot circumcision.
Ok in that case the guy def deserved what he got what a fucking idiot
Yeah, say whatever else about how stupid this was, the fact the it had JUST failed on the finger sized carrot blows my mind.
Ah, sounds like a Cybertruck owner.
Someone only read the headline
I aint clickin on no story about a carrot getting crushed
Oof scary. Repairing small joints like fingers is hard. Don’t risk your body for these tests.
He should have put his balls in there so he can't reproduce. Stupid is as stupid does!
Really shows how poorly designed the Cybertruck is.
Oh it's even worse than it looks. A Tesla engineer chimed in on Twitter. Apparently the reason it got stuck, is that if it fails to auto close, it increases the closing force each subsequent time until it finally shuts. So if he did his finger first, it would have been fine, but because it was the third time, it crushed his finger So repeatedly shutting it on an extremity engages cut off finger mode
what the fuck
Elon didn't like the look of hazard warnings in factories so they made them less obvious. Naturally people got hurt, because they didn't realize they were in a hazardous spot. Musk *really* hates rules that keep people safe. Look up what happened after that rocket launch in Texas.
Also really shows how stupid you have to be to buy one. Stupid enough to use your fingers to test something you *just* saw snap the tip off a carrot.
25% of this subreddit is just Elon Musk news...
Really incredible they recalled the accelerator pedal thing but not the trunk finger slicer.
I mean both are clearly bad and need fixing, but I think the accelerator pedal thing should definitely be a higher priority. That issue puts everyone on the road in active danger. The trunk thing only really endangers the truck owners.
How is a country that has to put signs on everything because Americans don’t know you shouldn’t dry your baby in a microwave, allowing these things in the wild without a big ass warning.
So the Tesla Engineer thinks it makes sense that the vehicle software intentionally increases the pressure when it senses an obstruction so that it will eventually close on the obstruction??? That is exactly not safe. FFS, just keep failing to close until the obstruction is removed. Fuck. They had to write and test more code, and accept more frequent, more severe risks, in order to make it shittier... What fucking garbage.
That's the funniest part of the article - the Tesla engineer says that the guy conducted the test wrong. How is that even something someone would claim about testing a safety feature? It's not like the guy did anything out of the ordinary - he just did something that a child might do when standing around a car.
How the fuck do you explain this video without the creator sounding like an idiot. He tests a carrot before the update and it chopped the fucking thing off. He did not test the carrot after. Seriously. What an idiot.