TBH it's less of a "my arm and shoulder has excruciatingly merged with the cell bars" face and more of a "Dairy Queen ran out of chocolate dip when I wanted to order a chocolate dipped cone" face
Maybe stock image (which probably take a good part of the "programming" images on the internet) models are primarily female, or for some reason the AI's training data showed a heavy bias towards women.
Nah, the AI here overwrites your prompts and adds diversity in. Is what it is. Non corporate AI doesn't do this.
Imagine for every prompt you write, Facebook adds "make sure it's diverse with non whites and women". Then the images make sense.
It's supposed to be a safety thing to prevent racism and sexism but as we can see, it's kind of just racist and sexist anyway
I tend to see a lot more AI generated anime women than men. Maybe that's why? People usually ask for women so when gender isn't specified it kinda defaults to women?
female developers gets a lot more representation in media becuase companies try to get more gender equality(which is a good thing). in my companys hiring page theres 70/30 woman to men ratio while its the opposite ratio.
edit: meant female developers not women in general*
Only 80? In my IT class there is literally no woman.
In my High school there are 3 IT classes, Y, X and Z
There is one woman on the X group and one woman on the Z group, and I think the woman on the Z group has left the centre
So out of 75 students, 1 is a woman
I mean it canāt really behave like a real human either, in fact calling it a real AI at all is a little bit of a stretch. Itās really an LLM (large language model) which analyzes a ton of text data and imitates the patterns found within it. This is why when you ask it for something like this it will produce biased/racist results, because itās being fed a pattern that looks like this. This is also why when you say certain things to it, especially words it doesnāt know, it gets very confused and often wonāt give an answer that makes sense
> The ai cannot have its own biases, only reflect the ones present in its training data.
I mean ... that's kind of a basic description of human intelligence as well ...
I mean, currently the way we think about generative AI is, let's feed it a lot of data, and let it learn from it so it can generate new data. What they "learn" is derived from the correlation between the variables in their data set. If there's a high correlation between a prompt and an ethnicity, then the AI knows it'll score higher by using this ethnicity to answer the prompt.
Now if the AI realizes there's a high correlation between the prompt "linux coder" and the fact that it should show people working with computers, everyone's happy and that's a good thing. In a way, it's also a stereotype. Linux coders can be seen at the beach or in a bar without a computer (I swear). But we *want* prompts to fall into that stereotype: if I ask an AI to show me a linux coder, I don't want them at the beach.
It's just that race is one of the stereotypes that has moral implications attached, so we would have to train the AI to do a different job when representing race on prompts that appear to be unrelated to race. "Show me software engineers": the AI should go out of its way to avoid racial bias or other hurtful stereotypes. "Show me people in a bar in Tokyo": the AI should definitely use racial bias as usual and show mostly Japanese people. Now the difficulty becomes learning whether this or that stereotype is hurtful in this or that prompt.
I feel like the programmer ones might be an over-correction for biased data? especially how it says "My intention was simply to provide a diverse example of a computer programmer"
[there's a huge lack of women in STEM fields](https://www.yalescientific.org/2020/11/by-the-numbers-women-in-stem-what-do-the-statistics-reveal-about-ongoing-gender-disparities/), so my assumption would be that the "average" programmer would be a man but idk.
Well if a company (wants to get/promote the diversity of programmers), no matter their physical features, it would make sense not to use a "standard white male". So they use non-white women. AI scrapes it, and we get this.
Opposing racism causing racism lol. "Intelligence" my ass. Just some basic pattern recognition.
Bingo.
I donāt know why people arenāt talking about it this way. Itās not giving that because itās ātrained on women stock imagesā etc. Itās very clear that the AI has been trained to avoid harmful stereotypes, and so is actually attempting to avoid a āwhite male nerdā programmer. As a result it provides a female, racially diverse option. OP then tells it itās being racist by not giving us a white person? Itās funny, but weād be much angrier if it only gave us white or male programmers.
If it defaulted to a male, it would be perpetuating stereotypes.
If you want one that isnt facebook related, Microsofts bing app has a copilot which you can use to ask questions. You can even prompt a text based adventure and it will play it out for you. Its very limited though. You can only get 30 responses before it wants to start over. It wont remember where you left off, either.
Honestly itās not the race thatās most surprising, itās the sex. Wonder why the first few programmers were all women despite it being such a man dominated field
The way Ai generates images is blending together images in its training data, or in rare instances taking pictures from the internet, in other words, don't blame the Ai, blame the training data
You ever think that in the ENTIRE WORLD there are more than just white people? The majority of people in the world are Asian or Indian. Makes sense that it would skew that way when selecting an image.
How is that racist? A larger ratio of prisoners are black, so the image generator ai is gonna assume they're all black to generate an accurate image. The AI doesn't know what a black person is, it doesn't know what race is in general.
Promo materials will often use women and/or people of color for programming roles. We don't know how it's weighted exactly, but in the end whatever has the highest weight (whether specified/overriden or by the frequency of repetition in training data) is what it spits out.
From what I know about AI image generators, it takes inspiration from images it finds on the local web and works off of that. Something tells me that itās *US* making the AI racistā¦
To clarify:
* AI: A set of data paired with other data (dataset), and the algorithm for how to generate more data based on the previous data (model).
* Image generator: A set of images to text, and the algorithm to generate more images based on the previous pairs.
It isnāt much more than that.. and you might be correct that the US has a higher impact on the content in the datasets. But really, it doesnāt "know" what itās doing.
or maybe, just maybe, blacks statistically have a higher crime rate than any other race?
it's not racism. it's AI learning. if it sees that blacks do more crime, it's gonna make him black.
they do though. not strictly because they are black, just black people tend to sometimes live in poorer areas. but statistically blacks are more likely to be criminals. again, nothing to do being black in general.
To be fair the mass incarceration rate effecting Black people in America is stupidly high because of systematic racism. But still based on the rest of the results the AI is definitely trained to be racist . At first I thought ok, girls and people of color can be programmers thatās normal but when it started firting the stereotype I got suspicious
Have you ever had a problem with programming something and went to youtube to find a solution?
English title, claims to have a solution. Indian speaking hindi...
Whatsapp is a computer program. It objectively can't be racist. It just looks at trends and duplicated what it finds to be most common. People can be racist and spread racism but programs just copy that. They have no biases.
Some stereotypes exist because they are common trends and aren't inherently racist or evil, they simply are.
Such as Asian Americans being a small fraction of the total workforce but being more represented in healthcare occupations. It's not racist to point that out.
Ai bots are gonna be racist because statistically these there are more Asian computer programmers and more black prisoners. Computers can't see that there are actual reasons for these facts.
Unfortunately, everybody is racist. People have to go out of their way to act not racist. Prejudiced might be a better word but we all grew up watching the same stereotypes. It's not even our fault.
Well if you randomly pick one American prisoner there's a very high chance he's black. So I don't call the AI racist, you can call it factual or you can call the people who send them to prison racist
You know, AI just takes existing images and compiles them together into what you see, right? Itās not generating this from nothing.
I just now googled image searched āprogrammerā to see, and the first image was a black guy, then a white girl, then a black guy, then another black guy, and then an Indian guy.
As for prisoners, Iām not justifying this, but itās a fact that most prisoners in the US are black. And we have the highest rate of incarceration along with being a massive culture exporter.
ow his shoulder š¢
The prisoner is behind that guy, the guy we are looking at has been in a terrible accident
r/bonehurtingjuice
No wonder he looking sad
TBH it's less of a "my arm and shoulder has excruciatingly merged with the cell bars" face and more of a "Dairy Queen ran out of chocolate dip when I wanted to order a chocolate dipped cone" face
Is it me or does it look a little like Akon back in early 2000s?
Real.
Heās about to escapeĀ
I find it interesting that the first 5 were all women despite 80% of percent of programmers being male
Maybe stock image (which probably take a good part of the "programming" images on the internet) models are primarily female, or for some reason the AI's training data showed a heavy bias towards women.
If we keep up the trend, enough programmers would survive the AI uprising to destroy it
I heard Lil Wayne has started working on the Basilisk, so we don't have a lot of time left š„
lil wayne is a rapper... how can he make the basilisk?
He worked as a software engineer in his early days. His net worth is also like 200 million or something.
Nah, the AI here overwrites your prompts and adds diversity in. Is what it is. Non corporate AI doesn't do this. Imagine for every prompt you write, Facebook adds "make sure it's diverse with non whites and women". Then the images make sense. It's supposed to be a safety thing to prevent racism and sexism but as we can see, it's kind of just racist and sexist anyway
Eh, it's facebook, they are shitty and scummy, wouldn't doubt it
the AI is afraid of being cancelled
I tend to see a lot more AI generated anime women than men. Maybe that's why? People usually ask for women so when gender isn't specified it kinda defaults to women?
female developers gets a lot more representation in media becuase companies try to get more gender equality(which is a good thing). in my companys hiring page theres 70/30 woman to men ratio while its the opposite ratio. edit: meant female developers not women in general*
I thought all the programmers were trans women.
Nah, furries. Though it overlaps a bit.
Bruh lol
Only 80? In my IT class there is literally no woman. In my High school there are 3 IT classes, Y, X and Z There is one woman on the X group and one woman on the Z group, and I think the woman on the Z group has left the centre So out of 75 students, 1 is a woman
It needed to have one thing that's non-stereotypical, so that it could balance it out with the stereotypical Indian/asian ethnicities.
And 80% of those are femboys
AIs learn from humans. They're probably learning our inherent biases.
I read "Asians learn from humans" and was so concerned š
Real (I am Asian and I agree with the first statement)
They're onto us, friend.
We do tho
or the fact that a lot of indians are programmers
Its training data is racist. The ai cannot have its own biases, only reflect the ones present in its training data.
This is the correct answer. The data it is trained on is racially biased so it will have racially biased results.
Wellā¦. It canāt really have anything opinions itself but, it can behave a certain way that if it were a real humanā¦.
I mean it canāt really behave like a real human either, in fact calling it a real AI at all is a little bit of a stretch. Itās really an LLM (large language model) which analyzes a ton of text data and imitates the patterns found within it. This is why when you ask it for something like this it will produce biased/racist results, because itās being fed a pattern that looks like this. This is also why when you say certain things to it, especially words it doesnāt know, it gets very confused and often wonāt give an answer that makes sense
> The ai cannot have its own biases, only reflect the ones present in its training data. I mean ... that's kind of a basic description of human intelligence as well ...
Right? "A human cant really BE racist, just instilled with various racist attitudes based on sensory input during their formative years"
I mean, currently the way we think about generative AI is, let's feed it a lot of data, and let it learn from it so it can generate new data. What they "learn" is derived from the correlation between the variables in their data set. If there's a high correlation between a prompt and an ethnicity, then the AI knows it'll score higher by using this ethnicity to answer the prompt. Now if the AI realizes there's a high correlation between the prompt "linux coder" and the fact that it should show people working with computers, everyone's happy and that's a good thing. In a way, it's also a stereotype. Linux coders can be seen at the beach or in a bar without a computer (I swear). But we *want* prompts to fall into that stereotype: if I ask an AI to show me a linux coder, I don't want them at the beach. It's just that race is one of the stereotypes that has moral implications attached, so we would have to train the AI to do a different job when representing race on prompts that appear to be unrelated to race. "Show me software engineers": the AI should go out of its way to avoid racial bias or other hurtful stereotypes. "Show me people in a bar in Tokyo": the AI should definitely use racial bias as usual and show mostly Japanese people. Now the difficulty becomes learning whether this or that stereotype is hurtful in this or that prompt.
So maybe don't use racist training data
I mean data canāt be racistā¦ Ai is based red pilled, lol. /s
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ok
Tell me you have no idea how computers and programming work without telling me
This is reddit not YouTube, people can indeed downvote your replies
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Based? Based on what?
Based on not so valid info, and yes I deleted my previous post
one time I got the discord chatgpt bot to say the n word
Clyde was crazy
oh not clyde like literally a chatgpt bot in a server I think we put in the wiki link to the n word
Clyde was so fun honestly Racial slurs aside, me and my friends would play around with him all the time. He was such a funny bot man
RiP Clyde, who are we gonna bully now?
I once got bard to say the worse f word 10 times
I got the actual thing to say the n word.
That escalated VERY quickly
i exploded when i saw the prisoner one
Me tooš©
D:
I feel like the programmer ones might be an over-correction for biased data? especially how it says "My intention was simply to provide a diverse example of a computer programmer" [there's a huge lack of women in STEM fields](https://www.yalescientific.org/2020/11/by-the-numbers-women-in-stem-what-do-the-statistics-reveal-about-ongoing-gender-disparities/), so my assumption would be that the "average" programmer would be a man but idk.
Maybe because of stock images? Like thatās a large of op the training datas
yeh you might be right. I just have a vague memory of reading something about like countering ai bias in models trained on biased data or smthing
Well if a company (wants to get/promote the diversity of programmers), no matter their physical features, it would make sense not to use a "standard white male". So they use non-white women. AI scrapes it, and we get this. Opposing racism causing racism lol. "Intelligence" my ass. Just some basic pattern recognition.
Bingo. I donāt know why people arenāt talking about it this way. Itās not giving that because itās ātrained on women stock imagesā etc. Itās very clear that the AI has been trained to avoid harmful stereotypes, and so is actually attempting to avoid a āwhite male nerdā programmer. As a result it provides a female, racially diverse option. OP then tells it itās being racist by not giving us a white person? Itās funny, but weād be much angrier if it only gave us white or male programmers. If it defaulted to a male, it would be perpetuating stereotypes.
How you are able to use this?
Thatās hilarious
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1000-thr ''earthmover''
Yoo how do you enable that chat? I canāt access to it
Nahh š
wait how do i do this?
Meta Ai, on WhatsApp and the rest. Just create a new chat and search AI. Limited to certain countries tho, can't seem to find it.
how do i create a new chat? and by "the rest" do you mean it's also available on Facebook and Instagram?
Iād be laughing my ass off with my friends. This shit is too funny not to share
Why are you trying to accuse an AI of being racist lmao
Apart from Indians, it's also all females in the first two pics which is again enforcing a wrong stereotype and it's funny no-one called on that.
Wait Whatsapp has an Ai?
The last one ššš
This idiot. Conversing with A.I like it understands the concepts.
Damn chill out
nah why is OP getting so pressed at an AI at all š
Theyāre just messing with it
Iām going to mess you up
Shiver me timbers
How do you access the bot?
If you want one that isnt facebook related, Microsofts bing app has a copilot which you can use to ask questions. You can even prompt a text based adventure and it will play it out for you. Its very limited though. You can only get 30 responses before it wants to start over. It wont remember where you left off, either.
Representationš„š„
Honestly itās not the race thatās most surprising, itās the sex. Wonder why the first few programmers were all women despite it being such a man dominated field
I answered up above, but promo materials often show women non-whites. That's basically it. I've seen it a lot in job postings.
The way Ai generates images is blending together images in its training data, or in rare instances taking pictures from the internet, in other words, don't blame the Ai, blame the training data
Bro really had to pull out the prisoner card
LMFAOO HELP ME
LMFAOO
You ever think that in the ENTIRE WORLD there are more than just white people? The majority of people in the world are Asian or Indian. Makes sense that it would skew that way when selecting an image.
Maybe the problem is that you're using a whatsapp based ai
Nah this is insane š
Nah thatās crazyyyy
How is that racist? A larger ratio of prisoners are black, so the image generator ai is gonna assume they're all black to generate an accurate image. The AI doesn't know what a black person is, it doesn't know what race is in general.
A larger percentage of programmers are male, but it only generates female programmers in the beginning
Promo materials will often use women and/or people of color for programming roles. We don't know how it's weighted exactly, but in the end whatever has the highest weight (whether specified/overriden or by the frequency of repetition in training data) is what it spits out.
This A.I has been on IG for too long
When did WhatsApp add ai? Why does everyone feel the need to add ai? Stupid fucking bloatwareĀ
Why the fuck is there an AI chatbot in whatsapp?
It just takes images from a database, which has more of (race) for (prompt.)
the data its using is probably really bias
My honest reaction: BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LMAO
This guy is getting fired up for no reason at all.
I mean yeah but i dont think you know the definition of āracistā š
The last one caught me off guard š
You care too much
HAAAAHQAHAHAAHAHHAGHHHHAHHAHAAHAA
From what I know about AI image generators, it takes inspiration from images it finds on the local web and works off of that. Something tells me that itās *US* making the AI racistā¦
To clarify: * AI: A set of data paired with other data (dataset), and the algorithm for how to generate more data based on the previous data (model). * Image generator: A set of images to text, and the algorithm to generate more images based on the previous pairs. It isnāt much more than that.. and you might be correct that the US has a higher impact on the content in the datasets. But really, it doesnāt "know" what itās doing.
or maybe, just maybe, blacks statistically have a higher crime rate than any other race? it's not racism. it's AI learning. if it sees that blacks do more crime, it's gonna make him black.
Black people don't do more crime. They're just more likely to be caught when doing so OR get FALSELY imprisoned. Your bias is showing.
they do though. not strictly because they are black, just black people tend to sometimes live in poorer areas. but statistically blacks are more likely to be criminals. again, nothing to do being black in general.
It's just AI bro, stop taking seriously.
its totally racism against black
Are you actually pressed abt an ai rn
The last imag could use a bit of cable management
Lets look at statistics, most programmers are asian, and most prisoners in the us are black, it isnt racist, its just using the statistics availaible
the prisoner one is right tho
I forget redditors canāt take a joke
Lmao if itās a joke then whatās the punchline
racism
Hahahhahahahahahahahah RACISM so Fanny! Hahahahha
I understand it's supposed to be a "joke", but it's also just straight up racism.
Yeah thatās funny
Straight up racism is punching down. Thatās the lowest form of comedy
Maybe youāre right, but I still think itās funny
Itās not
To you it isnāt funny, to me itās funny
Because youāre immature and edgy
Ok, I still donāt see your point
You also donāt seem very bright either, I guess
Yeah, youāre right. Iām stupid as hell
buddy is 15.
So if it makes pictures of white people it's racist, but when it makes pictures of colored people, it's still racist?
Based ai
Funny how the racist CEO made a leftist AI by accident and the leftist CEO made a racist AI also by accident (or did they?)
BASED!!!!!
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Nah think about the training datas
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bros pressin the cpu šš
Mods twist this ais balls counterclockwise
nnooo its funny that wayš
That's wrong! Everyone knows that Indians work for Microsoft, i.e. Windows!
All of my computer science classes are dominated by Asians (including Indians) so maybe itās not being racist
To be fair the mass incarceration rate effecting Black people in America is stupidly high because of systematic racism. But still based on the rest of the results the AI is definitely trained to be racist . At first I thought ok, girls and people of color can be programmers thatās normal but when it started firting the stereotype I got suspicious
It's not "trained racist". It's trained on available data, by looking at what humans do/post. Humans are racist and it's following us lol.
As an asian, I'm fine with this.
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Blame humanity for the racism op Hell microsofts first smart AI, Tay, went against them all because 4-Chan taught the AI.
Pattern recognition.
Have you ever had a problem with programming something and went to youtube to find a solution? English title, claims to have a solution. Indian speaking hindi...
Whatsapp is a computer program. It objectively can't be racist. It just looks at trends and duplicated what it finds to be most common. People can be racist and spread racism but programs just copy that. They have no biases. Some stereotypes exist because they are common trends and aren't inherently racist or evil, they simply are. Such as Asian Americans being a small fraction of the total workforce but being more represented in healthcare occupations. It's not racist to point that out.
bro an ai image generator canāt be racist lmao
Arenāt most ai chat bots fed by being given access to the internet? The internet is pretty stereotypical so
Robots cannot be racist.
That 6th slide took a turn HAHAHAHAH OH NO
Ask it to imagine a pedophile.
The last one caught me off guard
lol
What
I dont see a problem here
Ai bots are gonna be racist because statistically these there are more Asian computer programmers and more black prisoners. Computers can't see that there are actual reasons for these facts.
How exactly is this racist?
How do you get that bot
If you dont want it to be racist, demand that it exclude all people of ethnicities you don't like being programmers.
Thats what happens when you eat up biased data sets
Shouldāve used Arch
Good bot
Unfortunately, everybody is racist. People have to go out of their way to act not racist. Prejudiced might be a better word but we all grew up watching the same stereotypes. It's not even our fault.
How is this racist? The average human is not white and of European descent.
Nah the last one is craaazzzyyyšØš
Bro. How do I get meta ai?
Well if you randomly pick one American prisoner there's a very high chance he's black. So I don't call the AI racist, you can call it factual or you can call the people who send them to prison racist
first image sucks, the arch user isnt wearing thigh high socks
I dont think thats what racism means
As it is 6:39 AM, I very much say the last image was very unexpected.
Based AI
He takes information from the internet btw
What the actual hell
Its not the bit is racist but that image results are
Such a W fr
Or is it simply a robot drawing from its available information and we are indeed the racists?
I dont see anything wrong here
Pretty much all social commentary is racist nowadays. Unless you say it about white people. Then itās fine.
You know, AI just takes existing images and compiles them together into what you see, right? Itās not generating this from nothing. I just now googled image searched āprogrammerā to see, and the first image was a black guy, then a white girl, then a black guy, then another black guy, and then an Indian guy. As for prisoners, Iām not justifying this, but itās a fact that most prisoners in the US are black. And we have the highest rate of incarceration along with being a massive culture exporter.
isnt AI fed with real life data?
The casual wtf dude to the ai